Nauvoo Gathering 2003, Part 2
Understanding the Spiritual Hierarchy
Audience: My name is Andy.
JJ: Where are you from?
Andy: From Nigeria.
JJ: Oh, you’re from Nigeria? Great! (Applause)
Andy: This is my wife.
JJ: Where did you get such a pretty wife?
Audience: Nigeria! (Laughter)
Andy’s wife: My name is Belema. Pronounced Bell Emma.
JJ: Nice to meet you.
Andy: Her name means Love.
JJ: We have quite a few people from Nigeria in the group. I’m interested if you all live in the same location or several different ones?
Andy: Most of them live in the same area in a city called Port-Harcourt, Ben, Solomon and a couple of others. We read English. This is a book (the Immortal) we’ve found very profound and we brought it into our center. It’s amazing to know the amount of interest that has been aroused in that area. We put in our own contributions for building the molecule and building of the critical mass (Applause) I heard about this meeting and somehow I had the chance to come to the United States. I’m so excited. It’s going to be nice to be around at this time. There’s great energy in this group and I’m very excited.
JJ: Do quite a few people in Nigeria speak English?
Andy and Belema: We learned to speak English. Our business language is English. So our group said I should go and see what’s happening, and that I hug everybody. So we’re really, really excited to be here and to meet everyone in the room.
JJ: Several old-timers wrote me emails saying, “This year we want something heavy. You gave us some good stuff before but we have heard it several times. We want something way heavy duty. Really deep. We want you to really challenge us.” This creates a bit of a problem if we present something really heavy duty with the fact that we have old timers, new people and people of various backgrounds. We will go into some material we haven’t covered previously. We’ll try not to go too deep, but we’ll try to go deep enough to make everybody think, maybe even some of the old timers like Anni and Mindy and Susan, Robin and Larry and the rest, maybe even my wife. (Laughter) She challenges me all the time.
There’s no better challenge than Alice A. Bailey. (JJ: holding up book) This is one of her first books I ever read, called Treatise on White Magic. Alice A. Bailey was a lady who had a similar experience to Joseph Smith in some ways and at a similar age. She was about sixteen and her parents were away one day. A man appeared in her home out of the blue. He had a turban on and looked rather strange. He said his name was Koot Humi and he came to give her a message. He told her she needed to concentrate her efforts on establishing herself as a virtuous young lady and to learn more. He gave her instructions and said she had to prepare herself for the time when she would do great work here on the earth. He began to explain it to her and she said, “Well, you know I’m a regular Christian here and you don’t sound like you’re even from a Christian background. So I don’t think I’m interested.” He said, “You’re not interested now, but you will be later. When the time comes, you will be ready.”
So he gave her instructions on how to prepare herself, kind of like you would to a sixteen year old. It wasn’t real heavy duty stuff. He simply told her to be honest and gave her good Christian ideals to live up to and to prepare herself for the work she had to do. A few years later she was contacted through mental telepathy by another Master whose name was Djwhal Khul. He told her that the time had come for her to receive communications that were laying the foundation for a new age which was to come.
She still wasn’t really convinced she was supposed to do it, but Djwahl Khul contacted her several times through mental telepathy until finally she agreed to write one book. She said, “Okay I’ll do some writing for you, but it has to be with no claim of authority, because I don’t know what you’re going to say. I don’t know if it’s going to be right or wrong. If I do, it I’ll just write it. If people accept it, fine, and if they don’t, fine.” He said, “Fine, that’s the way that we want it anyway.” So she agreed to try it to see what happened and to see what kind of material would be communicated to her.
So she began to write. The first book was called Initiation, Human and Solar. This book explained a little about who the Hierarchy of the planet were, that there were several divisions within them. The head of the planetary Hierarchy is an individual who has a number of names. One name given in the Bible is the Ancient of Days. The name given by Djwhal Khul was Sanat Kumara. It’s interesting that what he gave to her coincided with what Joseph Smith taught.
Susan said one of the reasons Joseph was killed was due to polygamy, but much of the reason many people in the church hated him was when he began to teach about the hierarchy of gods. There were many who were called gods. In one of the addresses he gave before he died, he gave out a lot of information about this. He said in the beginning there was a council of gods and the council appointed one god to be the god over the earth. This agrees what Djwhal Khul said happened with Sanat Kumara. DK didn’t really talk about a council, but there probably was a council. He said Sanat Kumara was sent here twenty three million years ago. He came here from the planet Venus. Now, he didn’t come from the physical planet Venus.
Each planet had seven different globes, seven different spheres. The life on Venus isn’t on the physical surface of the planet. The life he came from was a plane a little higher than the regular physical. That’s where he came from, on Venus, and he came here in what we call etheric matter. He came here with 101 Kumaras. They came here and built the foundations of Shamballa. He was like the head god, selected as mentioned by Joseph Smith. Joseph called him the head god. When you talk about the head god to a bunch of normal people under normal Christian standards it sounds really weird. When Djwhal Khul started talking this way and said the god we worship is the god of the planet. He says Sanat Kumara was once a regular mortal man just like I am and just like you are – just as Joseph taught.
But Sanat Kumara evolved and he overcame all things on another planet and now he is our father here. Our goal is to be like him. This is what Joseph Smith taught before he was killed. When he taught this to the Mormons, a lot of people in the church were really grumbling under their breaths. It bothered a lot of them more even than the rumors of polygamy. They didn’t know for sure if polygamy was true or not. They’d just heard rumors about it. We don’t even know today how much he supposedly taught about polygamy was true because he was sealed with over fifty women and we don’t know of one child he had by any of them that can be definitely proven.
Susan: I disagree with that.
JJ: Susan thinks she has some information on one or two, right? In the sources I’ve read I haven’t found anything concrete. You should share that with me sometime because I haven’t found anything proven. He also sealed men to men. We know that wasn’t a sexual nature at that time which is in harmony with building the molecular relationship. Anyway, Joseph Smith taught about men becoming gods or men becoming like the masters. This got him into a lot of trouble. I think it contributed to his death, probably even more than the rumors about multiple marriages did.
But the head of the planet is Sanat Kumara. Most of the associates he brought with him 23 million years ago have left and gone to other places. He’s only got a handful of the original Kumaras with him now. He is over Shamballa. He is called our Father in Heaven, so to speak. In other words, He is the representative of our Father in Heaven. When you think of our Father in Heaven, in esoteric teachings, it’s more than just a nebulous father on a throne. The Father that’s over this planet is the head of Shamballa. He is the Ancient of Days as written of in the book of Daniel. There is also an internal representation of the Father and that is your individual monad.
Your monad is the beginning of your creation as an individual entity. From your monad comes all of the parts of yourself that are in creation. If you go into yourself you can contact your individual monad. This is your individual Father in Heaven. Within the realm of this monad is a complete history of everything that you have been connected with since the beginning of time. That beginning of time is further back than you can imagine. Your age as an individual in this solar system is very old but then you can go back in time to the beginning of your monad here. It has the knowledge of everything that you were in previous solar systems. Each solar system lasts for billions of years. So, each of us are very, very ancient beings. It took each of us a very long time to get to where we are right now. From the viewpoint of eternity, we’re just in the middle of where we’re going. That’s a really long way.
The next major step down in authority is what he calls the spiritual hierarchy of the planet. Who is the head of the spiritual hierarchy?
Audience: Christ
JJ: Christ. Christ is the head of the Spiritual Hierarchy. So, we have Christ and His Father, whom He called His Father is the head of Shamballa. But Christ is a step down and He’s the head of the Spiritual Hierarchy. Around Him is gathered a group who are called the Masters. Interestingly, Joseph Smith even made a mention of these Masters. He called them “Holy Men whom you know not of,” who are not under any condemnation. These Holy Men, that the people know not are the Masters. They are people who have passed what is called the fifth initiation and are able to perpetuate their lives in physical bodies for as long as is necessary.
It’s not quite the way people imagine it; that they’re resurrected and glowing all the time. They’re a lot more human than we think. The way the common Christian thinks the resurrection will be is the way the residents of Shamballa are. The Masters are a step above us. They’re ahead of us but not so far above us as they’re like residents of the mystical heaven. If one were to appear here today and walk into this room, he’d look just like you or me. You could shake his hand. For the most part they look like one of us. The teachings of Djwhal Khul, given through Alice A. Bailey tell us, that when the Masters appear they will walk among us. The biggest problem they face in mixing with humanity is they will be too ordinary and boring by people’s standards. This is one of the reasons that The Immortal was written the way that it was. Attempts have been made in the past to give teachings to humanity. They haven’t taken off.
If a Master were to come here and teach us, since he’s used to teaching other Masters really technical stuff, we find it boring. Another Master may speak like an engineer. If an engineer wants to teach us something, like how to build a bridge, we might think this is the most boring thing we have ever heard. But if he taught it to another group of engineers, they would find it fascinating. This is the problem the Masters have in communicating with humanity. They’re used to teaching and talking to each other and to very high intelligent lives. If they were to come and teach a group of regular people here we’d think, “Who are these beings? Do I want them in my life?” This is why the higher lives usually use an intermediary. Even Shamballa needs to do this with the Masters.
Shamballa is so far above the Masters that they use intermediaries called Nirmanakayas. The Nirmanakayas are intermediary lives that communicate between Shamballa and the Masters. They step down the teachings to the Masters so the Masters can understand them and appreciate them. In Shamballa they communicate on a much higher level and probably don’t even use speech very much. They use these Nirmanakayas to teach the Masters and the Masters use disciples to teach humanity. All the teachings need to be stepped down.
If we were to ascend to the Solar Logos, which is much higher than even the highest being on this planet, It’s thoughts would just fly right over our heads. No understanding would be possible. We would be like a slug trying to understand Einstein. The slug would say, “He has nothing to offer me.”
Djwhal Khul (DK) tells us there is going to be an externalization of the hierarchy. They will come and appear before us in a number of different ways. Some of them will be born as mortals. When the way is prepared, those of them who are in ancient bodies, will eventually reveal themselves. He tells us one of the problems in revealing themselves is that people aren’t ready for them. Some are expecting a razzle dazzle official group. But that’s not the way they are. They’re very quiet people who are not into the personality. An example of the personality is someone like Tony Robbins who speaks before us and really razzle dazzles us with his high astral emotion energy. We’d think this guy really is something! Let’s go walk on those coals, let’s go scream and shout and release these emotions. If a Master were to appear before us and talk, he wouldn’t be talking about pumping us up. It’d be the last thing on his mind. He’d be hoping people are prepared and are not into this emotional energy type of thing.
A Master’s emotional self is very quiet, very peaceful. He would speak very softly. He may sound a little like a corporate leader giving a boring speech to a bunch of business people. That may be the way he would sound.
DK also explains to us that it’s going to be very painful for the Masters to materialize among us. They’re used to a high vibration and to come mingle with us will be a very painful experience for them. They’re not looking forward to it. So, they’re going to put the second coming of Christ and His hierarchy off as long as they can (Laughter) because it’s going to be painful to interplay with us. Most people don’t consider that. Most people think the Christ just can’t wait to come down and mingle with us and they think it’ll be a fun experience for Him. That’s not the way the hierarchy look at it, according to DK.
Nov 28, 2003
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