McCall Gathering 2007, Part 33

This entry is part 33 of 54 in the series McCall Gathering 2007

The Disciple Prepares

JJ: Fortunately a lot of the ones that we know are only half way mad like on Susan’s list. They usually only have one or two followers so they are limited in the amount of harm they can cause

Audience: So JJ, are you saying that everyone who taps into spiritual energy goes through a period of madness?

JJ: When they first tap into it, yes. When this happens people go mad in different ways and like I said the madness that I have personally seen from the people I have taught hasn’t been over the edge. They have not gone out and killed anybody but they have still gone kind of mad.

Audience: JJ as a group can we go through these because we were talking about when we first connected as group and we all went a little mad. We all wanted to get together and live in the same city and work together and so on and now of course we realize that we all lives and must continue on our present path. Can we talk about this?

JJ: Well when you first get a taste of the spiritual energy you naturally want to be with others that are like yourself which is normal but it is like Isaiah says, “He that believeth shall not make haste” and like Annie said yesterday, “make haste slowly” so to speak. The Tibetan says that the tortoise beats the hare every time. That is because the hare gets all excited and jumps up and down, and the tortoise proceeds slowly towards the goal and does not stop and he gets to the finish line and always wins the race. So the nuts and bolts person who applies the practical solutions moves ahead slowly and will eventually get there before the excited hare will get there.

The next thing Hercules did before he began his journey is he killed all of his teachers. This is symbolic again in the fact that we were saying yesterday that the person in the Ephesus stage that begins his journey finds that those who were his teachers and apostles proved to be liars and so he discontinued their association. In other words, he killed their association with him.

The disciple learns this – he finds that the people he thought who were teaching him the truth in fact were not teaching him the truth so he eliminated them from his life and this is what the disciple has to do. If he has a priest, prophet, teacher, king or whatever that is misleading him then he must find those that are misleading him and cut him self off from them. It does not say in here that he eliminates all teachers because throughout the whole book the presiding one so always has true teachers available for Hercules.

For every one true teacher there are many false teachers that Hercules has to discover and eliminate from his life. What you have to do is eliminate your relationship with false teachers and what that means is that you do let their teachings permeate you so they do not have a negative influence on you. It is impossible to shield yourself from all false teachings out there because you turn on the TV or radio, open a book or read the paper or the internet and there they are, but you do not let them have any negative influence on you and you no longer have the god outside of you and you only the God within guiding you.

Audience: I think of this scripture a lot, “when I was a child I spoke as a child and when I became a man I put away childish things.” I think that there are some teachers that are there for a child level work, an astral level that eventually you just out grow them and it is not that they are necessarily a false teacher, they are just a lower level teacher teaching a principle that once is learned then it is time to go on to higher principle.

JJ: There is a lot of truth in that too but then when you want to progress unlike in kindergarten, when it comes time to graduate and move to the first grade in real life the teacher says okay it is great that you are moving on, but often in the spiritual arena the teacher does not want you to move on. He wants you to stay there so he can continue to have power over you and so you have to break away from him. So there is a correspondence to what you are saying but then there is that other area where you have to actually free yourself from the teacher. For instance the Mormon Church never said to you, well you have learned everything in Mormonism why don’t you go on to the greater mysteries.

Audience: I did have a teacher like that; he said that if people were following him too long then he would tell them to do outrageous things to make them mad so that they would move on.

JJ: Was he still a good member of the church?

Audience: Absolutely not!

JJ: Okay, what I am saying is that the Mormon Church does not tell that but you had a good teacher and that is a sign that he was a true teacher.

Audience: I always got the feeling that those who are in a seat of spiritual authority that they would like to kill those who do not believe.

JJ: Yes a lot of them still would if it were legal and this is one of the reasons I think that so many people are terrified of the religious people gaining control even though right now they do not have much control. I think people fear them because in past lives these people might have just burned a lot of these guys at the stake and if you are burned to death at the stake for being a heretic and religious people put you death in a painful way and you have come back then you are probably pretty nervous about religious people gaining authority again. You will notice that there are quite a few people that are really nervous about any religious people getting any kind of power in the government and that is probably why – because of past life memories of what was done to them.

Audience: Isn’t Romney running for president this year?

JJ: Yes he is.

So the gods get together and say to Hercules that they are going to help him as much as possible. While he goes through these labors they are going to give him some gifts. So they give him a bunch of gifts, Minerva gave him a robe and it is a symbol of like the mantel of Elijah. Remember when Elijah left he gave his mantel to Elisha, and he said I want the spirit and power from me rest upon you, and Elijah said “I will let my mantel fall upon you.”

Minerva is doing the same thing and letting his mantel fall upon Hercules and give him additional power to do his works. Vulcan came and gave him a golden breastplate symbolizing spiritual power, Neptune came and gave him twin horses which gave him power to control his emotions and his thoughts and his impulses, Mercury came and gave him a sword of rare design. The sword is a symbol of the mind, the power to think and reason.

Apollo came to him and gave him a bow of light. The bow of light symbolizes the capacity to shoot straight to the target, to go straight towards the goal and shoot straight to the heart so to speak.

So Hercules was given all these gifts and he says, I do not feel comfortable taking all these gifts so he sheds them all and goes out into the woods and he finds a living tree. He fashions himself a club of it and he comes back and says, I feel comfortable with this club. I am going to take this club and go and do the mighty deeds with this.

So the gods say that these gifts will be there when you need them. Now this is symbolic of when the disciple begins his deeds he has all of the gifts of the gods. He has all the qualities of the soul within him. He has all these abilities and he does not really believe that he is ready for them and he does not really believe that he can tap into them so instead he gets a blunt club that he fashions with his own hands and is comfortable with this.

We know how to use this club and we start with our club to go do these great deeds that we have to do rather than use these fine tools given to us of the gods but by the time we are done with the labors we know how to use all the tools. But when we begin the labors we are uncomfortable because we think that we are just regular people not capable of getting a great revelation or doing these great deeds.

Unless we are very powerful in the ego we all like to think of ourselves as regular people. This is what Hercules thought as well – that he was just a regular guy and he just wanted to use something he was familiar with. You take an old person who has never been on the computer and put them on the Internet and they would just be all thumbs and say I can never use this. It takes a while for them to get used to the new tools and this is the way we are. We have been using the same tools for hundreds of lifetimes and now finally we begin the labors of Hercules as a disciple and the soul begins to open up and we have all these tools at our disposal. The oneness principle that is out there and all the powers of Godliness are available to us and we are afraid to use them or we do not feel worthy to use them or we don’t feel we have enough skill to use them.

There is deception here. Hercules could have used them earlier but he did not because he went with what he was comfortable with. But the disciple has to start somewhere so he said, give me great deeds to do, I want to go forth! He was eager to go and do great deeds and he said, when you give me these great deeds, I would show you what I can do; I will show you great things. So even though he was hesitant to use the great tools he was confident that he was going to do these great deeds, and he did and he didn’t. Sometimes he screwed up and sometimes he performed well.

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Keys Writings 2015, Part 16

This entry is part 13 of 13 in the series 2015B

July 19, 2015

Discovering Illusion

We have covered the first two major steps toward liberation which are:

(1) Gaining control over the physical body and the powerful influences of the material world. These include appetite, sex and money, and/or possessions.

(2) Acquiring power over the emotional body and its distorted influences. This includes the ability to maintain inner peace in the face of any emotional attack or insult. Even more difficult is putting the ego, and its desire to magnify its importance, under control. The disciple will search out all glamours that are affecting him and dispel them. If he feels special because he thinks he has some special mission then he will discover how his ego is handling this and put it in check and will see himself as no more special than his brothers and sisters.

The next great hurdle is the world of illusion. By the time he reaches this stage he has had quite a bit of practice using the mind to solve the problems of glamour. There is some illusion built into every glamour that he had to find and dispel using the discriminating power of the mind. The next step is in finding the illusion in his actual belief systems that can stand apart from emotional attachment.

When the disciple approaches the third initiation he has a moment of breakthrough enlightenment followed by an encounter with the Dweller on the Threshold and the Angel of the presence.

We know that Paul had an Angel if the Presence encounter when he was blinded by a great light and heard the voice of Christ. What led up to this is not recorded. Here is probably what happened.

Like most true believers Paul was caught up from the time of his youth in the illusions inherent in his scriptures, his religion and tradition. These illusions led him to persecuting, to the point of imprisonment and death, the sincere members of the new Christian sect. His illusions caused him to sincerely see them as a threat to truth revealed from God that must be eliminated any way possible. His scriptures seemed to sanction death for blasphemers so his mind reasoned that it was within the will of God to kill them if necessary.

Some time before his encounter he started to analyze and question his belief system. He asked himself, “What if I am wrong?” Then mentally went back to the beginning of his established beliefs and substituted pure logic for that which was the traditional belief and analyzed the results. He didn’t like what those results were and suppressed them for a time and amplified his efforts to attack the Christians.

On the road to Damascus he had time to think and the logic of his possible misdirection came back to him. For the first time he truly opened his mind to the real possibility that his whole course in life had been wrong and what the right course may be if God is truly a God of love.

Before the encounter with the blinding light he was met by the Dweller on the Threshold that presented every possible suffering he would have to endure if he changed direction. He saw that he would be ostracized and possibly put to death by his own religion, but even more horrifying was that if he was wrong he would be condemned by God himself and may suffer for eternity. This was a horrifying thought to deal with that was only overcome by focusing on the love of God, and that if he was truly a son that God would accept him.

It was around this time that he encountered the Great Presence that changed his life and purpose.

To pass the Third Initiation the disciple must likewise examine his foundation beliefs and see them as they are and correct them. He may not be chasing and killing Christians, but he is most likely attacking some great truths in an attempt to kill and suppress them.

Giving signs for recognizing the Third Degree Initiate is somewhat futile?

Why?

If I were to merely say that this seeker has seen through his illusions many readers would nod their heads and say, “Yup, that is me. No illusion is holding me hostage.”

The problem with illusions is that the core ones are not seen by the pilgrim until the third initiation process is actually approached. Thus it seems to him that his core beliefs are sound with little or no illusion involved.

As food for thought I will say this. Many of the core illusions veiling the mind from the Angel of he Presence are centered around the Principle of Freedom. Illusions trick the mind of many into thinking that true freedom is dangerous, not to be trusted, but either controlled or suppressed. Then the other side of illusions here are centered toward no structure that leads to anarchy. Only the shattering of illusion accompanied by good judgment can dispel the darkness.

The bottom line is the question, “Are you free from core illusions?” is not helpful.

However, there are signs in the experience of the disciple of the third degree which are:

(1) He will go through an examination of his core beliefs that will cause him to consider making major changes of direction in his life.

(2) He will have a supernatural expedience where he encounters the Dweller on the Threshold. Check out some of my previous writings on his to see what this entails.

(3) This will be followed by an encounter with the Angel of the Presence (which he will interpret as Christ, God or some other great being).

At the Gathering Lorraine asked something to the effect as to whether we are working on more than one initiation at a time. To this I said no, but the answer needs some more details.

We have to pass the first before we can concentrate on the second and the second before the third etc. BUT… As we journey on the path we learn many things before the first that help us pass the first and the second before we pass he second etc.

To pass the third the disciple needs to have a highly developed reasoning mind as well as an open mind. Many lifetimes prepare the seeker for this moment, from initial brain stimulation, to eventually developing reasoning powers, good judgment and many circumstances forcing him to change his mind. Eventually, his own initiatives will change his mind, not outer circumstances.

This is as far as we need to go in this subject for practical purposes. I’ve already written a lot about the higher initiations that can be found in my previous writings.

The disciple is one who realises his responsibility to all units who come under his influence,—a responsibility of co-operating with the plan of evolution as it exists for them, and thus to expand their consciousness and teach them the difference between the real and the unreal, between life and form. This he does most easily by a demonstration in his own life as to his goal, his object, and his centre of consciousness.

Initiation Human and Solar, Pg 72

July 20, 2015

Thanks for your thoughtful letter Joshua. My philosophy in managing the posts here has been to allow maximum freedom to post. If someone becomes too much of a distraction then I will place them on moderation. I placed Jim on moderation once before and he quit but then wrote me a couple friendly emails so I thought I would give him another chance to post unmoderated. Obviously his present insults are over the top and he is just asking to be moderated again. Even though those on moderation can still post anything that is civil that is not a big distraction he will most likely quit again if moderated. Perhaps it is no fun to post if he cannot ridicule us.

Jim has obviously been a seeker throughout his life and has gathered considerable knowledge and experience. Then when he found his living master who initiated him he seems to have concluded that his quest has come to and end and after death he will live in eternal bliss with no need of further incarnation.

It appears though that further incarnation may be needed as he seems to have a huge hole in his learning curve. A most important ingredient for a true journey on the path is the cultivation of love, friendship and brotherhood. I, along with others, have attempted to extend these qualities to him and in return have received criticism, insults and inflammatory statements. It makes me wonder if he has a friend in the world, for who wants to hang out with someone who returns kindness with insults? One can see why he has not gathered a group on the internet.

I generally avoid people like that. Jim is different than most people that turn mean spirited on me in that he has shown a desire to share, entertain and capable of reasonable humor. I still think he is capable of good things but to realize them he must establish right human relations and seek to love us as much as he does the animals he refuses to eat.

Have you noticed that this is a problem of many who come here causing a disturbance? How much love do you feel from them, how much real sense of brotherhood? Was the hand of friendship extended? Did kindness come through?

I try and set the example here and show love, friendship and kindness to all. If such attempts prove fruitless I do not return evil for evil, but just place m energies where they will be more appreciated.

And now Jim, you have caused enough distraction here so please, in any future posts, cease with the insults, or you will be placed on moderation.

I am sure many wish I had already placed you on moderation, but I believe in extending maximum latitude.

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Stauffenberg’s Motives

Jim writes:

I saw the movie, way before ever knowing you. I thought he was a Nazi in the movie. He rose pretty high in Hitler’s Ranks going along with the extermination of Jews, Gypsies, and Mentally ill German Citizens before his conversion…

JJ

Wow, Jim you put the worst possible spin on everyone you do not see as a saint. You distorted history on Bush, now Stauffenberg and probably would me if you had the chance.

Wait. You kinda did that already by searching out and throwing at us an obscure anti Keys site.

Now to Stauffenberg. His two main biographers agree that he did not know of Hitler’s atrocities before 1942. Here is what was written after he learned about them:

Claus Stauffenberg’s radical change of position came in 1942, and it was provoked by the crimes of the regime – the mass murder of Jews, Poles, Russians, prisoners-of-war. The available evidence shows that other issues were secondary.

In May 1942 Stauffenberg was informed of the mass murder of Jews by Lieutenant (Res.) Hans Herwarth von Bittenfeld, a former member of the German embassy in Moscow who had served in the campaigns in Poland and Russia and since March 1942 had been working in Foreign Office Section XIII (occupied and unoccupied USSR) under the former Ambassador Friedrich Werner, Count Schulenburg. Also in May 1942, Stauffenberg and Herwarth received an eye-witness report from an officer about how some SS men had rounded up the Jews in a Ukrainian town, led them to a field, made them dig their own mass grave, and then shot them. Upon hearing this report Stauffenberg said that Hitler must be removed. He believed that the senior commanders had the duty to put this into effect.

During the second or third outing, in August 1942, Stauffenberg said suddenly: ‘They are shooting Jews in masses. These crimes must not be allowed to continue.’

In 1943 he declared that no sacrifice would be too great to have the mass-murderers of the Jews prosecuted by German authorities, before the Allies did so after Germany’s inevitable defeat.

Quotes from Peter Hoffman’s Biography on Stauffenberg

It is amazing that he spoke up at all when considering the danger of expressing such opinions. You do not hear of anyone in the military in North Korea or Cuba speaking up against any disagreement.

Hoffman says that the conspiracy’s main foundation was on the opposition to Hitler because of his atrocities.

As far as him being a Nazi he says:

The Stauffenbergs were not governed by a ‘world view’, but rather by the rejection of thought systems. Claus Stauffenberg never inclined towards any political party. A close friend said that if Claus had ever thought in earnest about political parties he would have formed one himself.

To say that Stauffenberg was a Nazi because circumstances forced him to work under Hitler is like saying I am a Democrat because I have to labor under Obama.

Here is another biographer’s account of an incident of Stauffenberg dealing with the Nazis back in 1934:

On 16 September 1934, Stauffenberg and a colleague were sent as representatives of their regiment to attend an official Party Day lecture in Bamberg. The speaker was the notorious Gauleiter (provincial Party boss) of Nuremberg, Julius Streicher, perhaps the most obscenely vicious of Nazi racial theoreticians-a man whose charisma was matched, if not positively exceeded, by his nastiness. Stauffenberg already harboured a personal grudge against Streicher, who had published an attack on Stefan George. At the lecture, Streicher launched into one of his customary pornographic castigations of Jews. So offensive did Stauffenberg find this torrent of rancid rhetoric that he did what, in the context, amounted to the unthinkable. He was a tall man, and conscious of his height. Accompanied by his colleague, he suddenly stood up, left his seat, stalked down the central aisle of the hall and proceeded to the exit. Here he was intercepted and stopped by SS personnel, obviously annoyed at the conspicuousness of his action; but the SS, at this date, could not afford to alienate the army, still less a dynamic and promising young officer of Stauffenberg’s social status and aristocratic pedigree. After a brief verbal altercation, he and his colleague elbowed their way past the black- clad minions and out of the premises.

From Secret Germany by Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh

Doesn’t sound like he was impressed with Nazi doctrine and it is an historical fact that he gave his life fighting against Hitler and his Nazi doctrines.

 

July 21, 2015

Proof of Life After Death

Robert was questioning the many views of an afterlife thinking from the point that there may not be one at all or it may be much different than we think. For instance, maybe we just hop from one body to another after death.

First let us talk about evidence of life after death. One of the most powerful arguments for it, and rarely used, is the fact that you now exist. Why is this evidence? Because science has discovered that anything that exists cannot be proven to ever be destroyed. Matter may at times seem to be destroyed, but it is not. Instead it is merely converted into pure energy, which can then be converted back into matter.

Even so, there is something that exists beyond the physical that makes you what you are. Logic tells us that this something will persist and cannot be destroyed any more than matter can.

Close your eyes and try to imagine a time when your essence will not exist and never will again. I cannot.

The second most powerful proof of life after death concerns a subject shunned by orthodoxy in the Western world – reincarnation. If you and I are reborn again and again in different bodies then obviously something survives death to live again.

I have proven reincarnation to myself, but some of the most powerful evidence is very personal so I will move on to other evidence.

Here are some comments from my book Eternal Lives about evidence produced by Ian Stevenson who investigated thousands of people who remembered past lives.

This conscious remembering is not as rare as many may think and this phenomenon caught the attention of Dr. Ian Stevenson, the former head of the Department of Psychiatry at the University of Virginia, about forty years ago. Since that time he has traveled the world studying these people and has accumulated about 3000 cases in his files.

Most of the more amazing cases occur with young children just a couple years old who are just learning to speak. As a general rule they remember the past life for a couple years and lose the memory around the age of five or six.

In a typical situation the child may insist that her parents are not really her parents, but that her true parents (and perhaps spouse) are in another city or part of the country). Dr. Stevenson tries to catch these children before they had a chance to visit their home of a previous life and take them there and scientifically examine their response. In many cases the child’s memory of a past life is proven, for the name given out is discovered to be a real person who died. The child is then taken to the home of her past life and will identify dozens of memories that she could have not acquired in this life. If there is some secret hiding place he or she will identify this. If there are favorite possessions, these will be pointed out.

In one case a young girl identified a previous spouse who refused to believe that the little girl was his dead wife reborn. She gave identification after identification of information only the wife could have known, but still the guy was unconvinced. In desperation the little girl pulled him aside and step by step told him exactly what she did to him when they made love as husband and wife. That did the trick. The man was convinced.

Basically Dr. Stevenson likes to get about twenty-four items of identification from the child of things that she could have not known, about the family and circumstances of the past life before he will take it seriously or even write about it.

Perhaps even more startling than the evidences derived from recalling past lives is Dr. Stevenson’s more recent work on corresponding birthmarks from one life to the next. He discovered that if one has a wound, particularly one that caused death, such as a gunshot, that the person will often have a birthmark in the exact placed where the wound was in a past life. What is even more fascinating is that if the person received a bullet wound which penetrated the body and left an exit hole that the entity will have a birthmark at both the point of entrance and exit.

Even more interesting is that the exit wound is larger than the entrance, and when the corresponding birthmarks are examined he found that the birthmark at the location of the exit wound was also much bigger.

Dr. Stevenson examined 895 children, who remembered past lives, for birthmarks, corresponding to wounds and found related birthmarks on 309 of them or 35%.

The chances of this happening are very miniscule. The average adult has about 17 square feet of skin stretching over his body. That is 2448 square inches. Now the chances of finding a birthmark on the same square inch of the body in a current life as a wound in a past life is 2448:1. The chances of finding a birthmark on the same square inch of both an exit and entrance wound is much greater: 5,992,704 to one, yet Stevenson turned up this startling evidence time and time again.

The interesting thing about the birthmark study is that the “tricky devil:” theory is even more ridiculous. To believe the devil is bouncing around stamping birthmarks on children defies all logic.

If there is something that survives death and moves on to another body then there is something that has to exist between lives. It is not logical to assume we just jump from one body to another as there are seven billion people on the earth today whereas earlier in our history there were only a few million. Where were the extra billions back then? They had to exist apart from the physical plane.

Michael Newton conducted a breakthrough investigation into what happens to us between lives. He took over 3000 people back using deep hypnosis that required three hour sessions to achieve. What makes for interesting evidence is the consistency of the testimony that came from a wide variety of subject some of whom were agnostics or even atheists.

Additional evidence is supplied by others who have done similar investigations into the afterlife as they come up with the same details.

Newton’s subjects did more than just reveal a nebulous afterlife but gave many interesting detailed descriptions of what happens there.

In a nutshell he revealed that most wander the lower etheric/astral realms for a while and then return to the spirit world to their soul group where they are reunited with their soul. Afterwards they experience a life review assisted by 2-5 elder souls. Rather than being a condemning judgment the review merely assesses how he did in his last life and what he an do to prepare for the next.

There are archives of libraries there containing the history of each soul as well as the history of our planet.

Before we incarnate we see a projection of how that life is likely to work out so we will be aware of what we are getting into.

There are clues we create in advance so we will recognize people who are important to us. I know the clue I had for my wife was the first time I saw her handwriting.

He says that each soul has a different color depending on his state of evolution. Unlike here you can tell how far along the path another is by merely checking out his color. He points out that many who came to him thinking they were far along and thought they were on their last life were surprised to find out they were really a newer soul when their coloring was revealed. Each soul group has the same basic color.

These are just a few points that have been very consistent in life between life recollections brought forth by Newton and others.

The most noted evidence of life after death is from the near death experiences. So many of these have been revealed that even some standard scientists have studied the phenomenon. They are perplexed that memories can be retrieved from a time period when the heart was not beating and the brain had ceased from functioning. What is even more baffling is that some have reported leaving their bodies and encountering events and conversations away from the hospital room and accurately recalling them.

A final evidence is produced by many who have had out of body experiences. This work was pioneered by Robert Monroe. He and his students not only give evidence that that there is more to us than the physical but a number of out of body experiences include visits with those who have long passed on from this life.

The greatest proof of all are experiences achieved through soul contact but such things are not allowed to be introduced as concrete proof. Even so, the senses of the soul are much more real than those of the physical body.

Overall, the concrete evidence of life after death is pretty potent and few non believers have examined them all. If they do then few honest people could deny that the evidence powerfully suggests that there is more for us to experience after the death of the physical body.

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Doctrines of Devils

Ken, I hope you realize that I was making an attempt to display my humorous side. Now let us look at the scripture seriously. It says:

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

Now this could apply to you, me, both of us or neither. Which is it? Maybe a more complete quote would provide the answer.

Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. I Tim 4:1-5

Okay, the bad guys Paul talks about are identified as doing the following. Do they apply to either of us?

(1) Speaking lies in hypocrisy;

I do not speak lies in nor out of hypocrisy. I think you have mistaken beliefs, but see no evidence that you lie.

(2) having their conscience seared with a hot iron.

This applied to many who resorted to persecution and other harmful acts. I know I have a good guiding conscience and see no evidence that you do not have one.

(3) Forbidding to marry

As far as I know both of us support marriage and do not forbid anyone from it.

(4) commanding to abstain from meats

I haven’t commanded anyone to abstain from meat, have you? I don’t think so.

Conclusion: It looks like neither you or I are guilty of the doctrines of devils that Paul was revering to. Maybe we should cease from any accusations on the matter. After all, who is called the accuser of the brethren?

“…for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.” Rev 12:18

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Larry W

JJ also said that Sanat is counted as a “rebel” among his peers. Just transpose the n and the t so Sanat becomes Satan. I (we) have no way to positively verify this idea. So I guess this falls to our resident Seer. What do you think, JJ?

JJ

I do not think Sanat Kumara is a fallen Lucifer as he is identified as one of the seven great Spirits before the throne of God by DK – even though he presides over a non sacred planet.

The problem is that the name Lucifer, as used by Christians, only refers to Satan whereas most Lucifers have not fallen, as Jesus is called a Lucifer (Morning Star) in the Book of Revelation.

DK did indicate that Sanat was a rebel but I think he was stressing that he is attempting techniques that are not done by other Logoi.

The thing to always look at is the real manifestations of Good and evil and where they come from.

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Clay:

And you made my point or me. I disagree with you and now you claim that I call evil good and good evil. That is exactly what is wrong with your teaching paradigm and your entre world view JJ.

JJ

Wrong Wrong Wrong

The problem was not that you disagreed with me. The problem was that you label harmless things as evil – such as Blayne’s lighthearted comments. Get a life, man.

Clay

People can not just disagree with you, or have a difference of opinion with you, you have to label all disagreement with you as evil.

JJ

Wrong Wrong Wrong & Double wrong and you cannot give one feeble example to support this crazy minded accusation.

Clay

That is exactly what authoritarians dictators do.

JJ

Wrong Wrong Wrong

Equating anything I have done here with an authoritarian dictator is mean spirited to the extent that Alan looks like an angel. What the hell is the mater with you???

Clay

so maybe Jim was correct in his criticism of you. Even before I ever posted on this forum by Richard that my political views would be attacked ruthlessly on this forum, and I a Tuvalu blew it off as you seemed really reasonable in spiritual exchanges, but turns out he was totally right. I truly, truly expected better of you.

JJ

You are not making any sense here. What have you been smoking? The last post we received from Richard was praising me for being more accepting than Allan.

Clay: Again, i am just pointing out your total inconsistency in treatment between Blayne and Jim.

JJ

Wrong Wrong Wrong

You have only done this in your wild imagination.

Clay

I must be a member of the dark brotherhood if I disagree with you.

JJ

Wrong Wrong Wrong

Almost everyone on this forum has disagreed with me including Dan lwk, Ruth and most others. And they are not part of any dark brotherhood. You have no idea of what I am talking about when I use this term. Where you getting these crazy ideas???

Clay:

So of course how would I ever know good from evil.

JJ

Using the quality of your logic lately that is a good question.

Clay:

Also, I don’t believe in good or evil.

JJ

That explains a lot. Those who cut off the heads of those who do not conform are just as good as you are. Yeah, right. You have been an irritation lately, but I would hope you see yourself as good in relation to the head-cutting-off bunch. Maybe not.

Clay

I believe in positive and negative karma. I do not acknowledge the existence of evil as anything real. Evil is an illusion.

JJ

So when the evil dudes cut off heads, the heads do not really roll because all is illusion??? You are a piece of work indeed.

Clay

Again JJ if your master DK is so advanced he should mention something about Tulpa’s and egregores in his teachings.

JJ

He spent a lot of time on these but called them thoughtforms. You need to get informed before you mindlessly lash out.

Clay;

No one is opposing you

JJK

So you are calling yourself a nobody then? At least we are seeing some humility here.

Clay

or out to sabotage your special mission to the world.

JJ

I am not complaining.

Clay

You are not that important. Neither am I, the difference s I am ok with that.

JJ

I don’t think so. You seem to think you are much more important than I.

Clay:

Hey we all want to feel like we matter, I totally get it, and you do matter, you just aren’t any more special or chosen than anyone else on this planet.

JJ

And you are saying this because??? Sounds like a false humility in a feeble attempt to feel important.

Clay:

But hey, do whatever gets you through the day. I don’t think you are evil JJ,

JJ

Why the change of thought here? Feeling a little guilty are we?

Clay

just a little arrogant and authoritarian, despite your professed libertarianism.

JJ

Wrong Wrong Wrong. You cannot back this up. Just another mindless accusation.

Clay

Also less delusional than Allan. I also don’t take sides.

JJ

You are deceiving yourself. You are into black and white, light and dark, good and evil as much as the Fundamentalists. You are just fooling yourself.

Clay:

But hey, I can’t follow a logical argument or tell good from evil and have the mark of the beast so what do I know.

JJ

That has nothing to do with my teachings on the mark of the beast. If you really understood what I say you wouldn’t be so contrary.

Sometimes you come across as someone who is contrary for the sake of being contrary.

We once stood together against unreasonable accusations on Allan’s list. Now I have to deal with another Allan type of unreasonableness.

Can anything good come out of Allan’s forum?

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Clay:

Jim was being singled out and treated differently because he does not tow the keister line.

JJ

That is just plain silly. One of the main rules here is to treat each other civilly. I usually give a warming first as I did with Jim and he ignored it so I put him on moderation, But even on moderation he can post as long as it is civil.

I didn’t bellyache when Allan put me on moderation – and for not for breaking any rule as did Jim..

Clay

JJ however sees Jim’s statement as pure evil.

JJ

Wrong Wrong Wrong. Where do you get such crazy ideas?

Clay

There are mean people, malicious people, sadistic people, but no person is evil. There are mean people, malicious people, sadistic people, but no person is evil. People will do awful, terrible things to each other, but no, an bad action does not make a person evil, not even your arch nemesis Hitler.

JJ

Most people would call someone like Hitler evil. You must have some weird definition that is not in the dictionary. You can’t really reason with someone who has floating ephemeral definition of words. You are a moving target.

July 22, 2015

Noah

“Suppose one more soul would have repented and entered the ark with Noah? Today he would probably have about a billion descendants that would praise his name for making the effort to live according to the witness he received. As it is, there is not the name of one person or his children who lived at the time of Noah who is remembered on the earth today. Even Noah is not remembered for his success as a preacher, but his name is great today merely because he obeyed the Lord and physically survived. “

I thought that God hand picked Noah and his family, as the only humans alive who were supposed to be saved, at the time of the Great Flood? Noah had found Grace in the Eyes of the Lord.

In Genesis 6-9, it states that God wanted to destroy every corrupt living human and animal on Earth with the flood.

Therefore, who are the other souls who should have repented, and entered the Ark with Noah?

Also, is the physical manifestation of the Gathering of Lights in Zion, like a type of Noah’s Ark? I know that you have written something to the effect, that once the Lights on Earth all shift to one spot on Earth, then this will cause something like a magnetic reversal, because it will move the poles of Earth.

***

Good and Evil

Clay:

I do not subscribe to any belief system that divides the world into the good team am the bad team. ISiIs does many horrorific things we should try to see them as damaged humans, not evil ones.

JJ

You are spinning your wheels attempting to create division over arguing about the meaning of words. It all depends on how one defines evil as to how such a thing manifests. If a person defines evil as eating peas then that is evil by the way he defines the term and you need to communicate with him using this realization. If this “damaged” head cutting off bunch are defined as evil because of such “damage” then that would be evil by definition – and it would also conform to the dictionary. Something IS in the English language because we define it so. If we do not define our words then we cannot communicate.

You cannot communicate with us about good and evil because you do not use any standard definition. If you are going to use a definition that is not in the dictionary then you should define the word do you can make some sense. Why even use a word that has no existence behind it? The fact that you use the word ”evil” so often (much more than I do) shows that you do believe in it. You appear to think it is spiritual to not believe so you put yourself in that elite category. That must feel so smug.

If you believe in good then you have to believe in evil for we live in a world of duality. If there us hot there must be cold. If there is and up there must be down etc. If you believe in “up” but not “down” then you will still fall down when you stumble. Saying you do not believe in “down” changes nothing. It just makes you look silly.

You appear to see anyone being evil if they use the word evil for you attack them as a believer would attack an evil person.

Clay

I will pray for those who persecute me and love those who hate me, even you and JJ

JJ

I do not hate you or persecute anyone but do find it annoying that you put words in my mouth time and time again and now are accusing me of hating you while portraying yourself as a saint praying for me.

Clay:

I do know that Christianity conquered Rome not through armed self defense, but through non violent resistance.

JJ

You are mixed up here. It was Rome that conquered Christianity and after the conquest proceeded toward many bloody wars in the name of Christ.

I generally advocate non violence but there is a time and place for everything. Sometimes in the defense of freedom, such as World War II, you have to respond with force.

Mystics were dead wrong in many cases. Just because someone is or was a mystic does not make him correct. Often the path of non action is merely the path if avoidance opening the door to great “damage.”

“Damage” triumphs when good men do nothing.

***

Clay:

Imagine if you were teaching a class on Spanish and someone who signed up for the class started interrupting the course incessantly with statements such as.

You shouldn’t be teaching Spanish. French is the right one to learn. If you are enlightened you will learn French.

You think I am evil if I speak French in class.

Your sourcebooks are all wrong. They do not even teach good Spanish.

And your teacher has no idea what he is talking about for he only mumbles balderdash.

This is what you are doing in this class.

Okay, we get your point, you do not agree with anything any of us seem to believe, even though, contrary to your belief, our main source material is the living soul whereas yours is dead mystics.

Fine. We get your point. You think the members here are a bunch of backward hicks.

Point taken.

Now let us move on and discuss the topics I introduce here and cease from the disruption. Many students are waiting for further teachings and all you are doing is interfering. This is a disappointment because you have the talent to add things in a positive way, but such a direction does not seem to enter your head.

If you do not accuse each other, God will not accuse you. If you have no accuser you will enter heaven. What many people call sin is not sin; I do many things to break down superstition, and I will break it down.

Joseph Smith, Jr.

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Correcting the Record

Clay:

Some of JJ teachings run contrary to both those of Buddha and Jesus. I stand by that.

JJ

You stand by it but do not prove you point, but only find fault with nothing to back it up.

Clay

Jesus and Buddha both taught voluntary poverty,

JJ

They taught to not be attached to physical possessions, which is different than teaching poverty. Jesus never taught poverty and Buddha taught against extremism. He lived in extreme wealth and extreme poverty and said neither supported the path to enlightenment.

How about posting a picture of where you live and the car you drive to show us an example of your poverty? Or are you beyond practicing what you preach?

Clay

JJ endorses prosperity teaching.

JJ

First I heard of this, though there is nothing wrong in poverty or riches if correctly used.

Clay

Jesus and Buddha were unequivocal in their renunciation of lethal force.

JJ

Again no proof is cited.

There is a time and place for everything:

Luke 22:36 Then said he (Jesus) unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Matt 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

Matt 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

and in righteousness he (Christ) doth judge and make war. Rev 19:11

Clay

I am not setting up straw men, I am arguing over JJ’s direct teachings.

JJ

You aren’t presenting any arguments. You are just making declarations with nothing to back them up except your own authority, which seems to be enough for you.

Clay:

JJ tells us in his books that this type of sacrifice is no longer needed in the new age.

JJ

As usual you do not represent me correctly. I have taught that they keynote of the age of Pisces is sacrifice and that of Aquarius is Service. This doesn’t mean that sacrifice is no longer needed, but that is not where the emphasis of the teachings of this age will be. We will take the lessons of sacrifice and incorporate them as the human race learns the lessons of service.

Clay:

show me where I have misrepresented JJ’s teachings?

JJ

I just did. I could go on but am limited on time.

Clay

I do not believe he understands Buddhism or Christianity with the insight he claims.

JJ

And I do not believe you understand them either. You never back anything up, but just declare what you believe. I’ve written books on Buddhism and Christianity. What have you done?

Clay

Allan Watts if you have ever read him has illustratef the great truths in both on those religions,

JJ

And I could name a hundred authors who have written books. That says nothing to back up any point you make.

Clay

JJ has created a hodge podge of theosophy blended together with Mormonism.

JJ

All the ammunition you gave is to ridicule. You never quote what I say and comment on it but just say I am wrong. That us an extremely weak approach.

Clay

So far all I see is people telling me I am wrong with zero supporting argument or evidence. If there is a dark brotherhood, prove it.

JJ

You have it backward in dealing with me. I have written millions of words backing up my teachings. What do you have to back yours up outside of declarations of belief and telling us to read books.

Clay:

Again I am perfectly fine if JJ disagrees with me, but JJ seems to get his feelings hurt when people disagree with him, especially on political issues.

JJ

I think it is the other way around. You seem to be really bent out of shape because I do not think the same as you politically. My feelings are not hurt if someone disagrees with me. Now, name calling and false accusations are something else and such things break the forum rules and show a mean spirit.

A number of comments you make sound as if you take my fiction books as 100% truth. The Immortal series is a blend of fact and fiction as far as the story line goes with the teachings to be as true as I am able to write them. The millions of other words I have written contain no fiction, save a few parables.

Clay

But he should maybe tone down his messiah complex a bit, and just seek to help others come to a broader understanding of spirituality,

JJ

Maybe you see some false messiah complex in me because you are looking in the mirror at yourself. Just one more mean spirited, unloving, unjustified accusation with absolutely nothing to back it up.

Clay:

I just take his more grandiose claims with a bit of skepticism.

JJ

Another false accusation. I make no grandiose claims.

Clay

I do not see JJ as my teacher, or father, he seems to be my equal, so I will treat him as such, as should you.

JJ

We do treat each other here as equals here, but we are all at different stages on the path possessing different knowledge on different things. Don’t tell me you are going to be like Allan and spend many posts trying to teach us and then insist you are not a teacher.

People come hear to learn what I have to teach. I made the mistake of inviting you and Jim here who have no interest in anything I teach so it turns out all you do is distract the group from what it is they have chosen to learn. Posts like yours force me to delay my next teaching post and answer all kinds of false statements and accusations.

If this s not the environment you want then we are fine with the idea that you drop out and find a group that will accept you.

That may be difficult as I know of no other group who wants to be saturated with accusations and distortions of their thinking while being preached to of the love of Jesus.

***

Clay:

The difference is JJ I did not see this as a Spanish Class.

JJ Then you must be the only one with an imagination wild enough to not see my point. Of course, this is not a Spanish class but it matters not what you teach, the teacher must keep the students focused on the material with a minimum of distractions.

Clay:

In high level intellectual classes as long as the opinion expressed is on topic, all sides and points of views are expressed.

JJ

If this is what you think then why are you never on topic but try and set your own agenda? I do not recall you commenting on any teaching post I have made. Instead, you conjure up what I do not teach and comment on that. This approach would not be accepted by any teacher out there. Most students here think I am way too tolerant of off topic challenges.

Clay

A good teacher does not get upset when students disagree, even vehemently, he allows the dissuasion as long as the views are supported with decent argument.

JJ

You have no power to upset me and no one upsets me by merely disagreeing. I find it unacceptable to insult, make false accusations and divert the class away from the things they came here to learn. That is very selfish to get the class centered around the one at the expense of the interests of the many.

Clay:

This is not a Spanish Class. This is supposed to be a spiritual classroom where you teach on the ideas of Jess, Buddha, an other spiritual teachers. So from what I can tell, my post are perfectly on topic.

JJ

There are thousands of topics in spirituality and you have not been on topic. You only lead us away from what we want to discuss. You want to talk about duality, but we have already spent months and hundreds of thousands of words discussing every aspect of it. Older members just sigh when this overworn subject is brought up again. It is strange how almost every contrarian that comes here preaches to us the same things about duality with the fervor of a fundamentalist Baptist.

Duality is not on topic, especially if nothing new on the subject is addressed.

Clay:

I am also not interferon (interfering) with any of your ability to teach or for anyone to learn. If you choose to respond to my post repeatedly, that is solely on you, same with every other forum member on here.

JJ

If I do not respond to people who accuse I get asked as to why I do not respond by some. However, I am just about done responding and will put you on moderation if necessary to get us back on track as you cause quite a few others to digress also.

So please, be kind like the Jesus you advocate and cease to accuse just to be accusing and throw in some constructive thinking and ideas on the subjects at hand as we move along.

You seem to be treating Richard with some respect and you did me in he beginning so it is within your ability to do this.

 

July 24, 2015

Astrology and Past Lives

Adam writes:

How significant is an astrological birth chart to an astrological death chart in the identification of a past life? I assume two such charts could have numerous parallels and yet be mere coincidence, just based upon the numbers of birth/death occurrences, and the cyclical nature of charts. So, is it merely something to consider as additional evidence of a suspected past life, or is there some real evidence to consider when comparing similarities of things like, Sun, Rising, and other signs . . .???

JJ

Good question. I have never done a death chart nor have I heard of any other astrologer using one. If your birth chart tells us of energies at play during life them maybe a death chart would give energies at play in the immediate life after death.

It would be interesting to compare a number of death charts to future lives.

What some have done in an attempt to prove reincarnation is to compare the natal chart of a supposed past life to a current one. David Wilcock, who believes he is a reincarnation of Edgar Cayce has done this. Here is the site where he makes the comparison.

LINK

The problem with looking for similarities is that we often select entirely new influences for ourselves as we will be dealing with new challenges as we progress from life to life. Therefore, it is unlikely that one will be able to prove reincarnation by similarities in natal charts.

The exception may be a failed life where the soul tries to retrace its steps in a new life. A person who commits suicide in one life may wind up with some close similarities in another. On the other hand, a soul in a high state of progression may enter a new life with striking contrasts to the other in his new natal chart.

Astrologers generally believe the nodes of the moon give us hints about karma we have to deal with from past lives. Here is one person’s interpretation of the nodes:

The SOUTH MOON NODE is symbolic of your past, your Achilles Heel—the footsteps you have left behind during prior lifetimes. It signifies the karmic residue that you have yet to balance or transmute. The magnetic pull of your SOUTH MOON NODE can feel like a heavy burden that you are carrying until its lessons are learned—it may pull you backward if you are not consciously aware of its presence and choosing to move forward toward your NORTH MOON NODE.

THE NORTH MOON NODE is the symbol for the future—the new cycle to which your look forward. This Node magnetically pulls your Soul toward its future growth. Divine Providence offers much help in this forward movement. Deep within, you will feel a sense of direction … your purpose spurs you on in spite of all the obstacles. Your NORTH MOON NODE “symbolizes the highest area of expression to be reached in the current life and therefore must be interpreted by the highest qualities of the sign and house in which it is located.”

“The most amazing feature about the NORTH MOON NODE is that however much [you] achieve it, there is always more to go—as it truly represents [your] everlasting spiral towards God.”

LINK

Another theory is that retrograde planets in a chart indicate negative past life karma that must be worked out.

DK gives some additional food for thought. He tells us that most of us progress around the zodiac in a clockwise motion, until we enter our last round and perform the Twelve Labors of Hercules in twelve different lives (or cycles). Then we move counterclockwise.

I believe that this is a general rule of direction and not a black and white thing. From my investigations it seems that there is a general trend of the soul to move in order but not exact enough to be able to predict the sign that one will be born into in the next life.

Another thing he said was that a person’s death date will determine a future birth date. From my own research I found this sometimes happens but generally does not. Either he is mistaken or Alice A. Bailey left something out in the transmission. It is quite possible that the time of death will indicate a future life, but not necessarily the one in the immediate future. Similarly as we pass through the zodiac we will often take a break from our next hurdle and choose a natal chart to our liking.

Our free will is always a factor with any event that occurs to us.

Now David Wilcock, who claims to be Edgar Cayce, may be one of the few out there making a claim who is correct. There are some interesting similarities between the two.

He was born in the same sign as Cayce which would indicate unfinished work in that sign from the last life. On the other hand, his birth direction was clockwise indicating he is not yet a high initiate.

Cayce died on Jan 3 1945 and Wilcock was born March 8, 1973 so there is no relation here between the death and birth day.

It would be nice if we could use astrology for concrete purposes and as a means for exact predictions, but such is not he case. Astrology deals with energies and their influences and because each of us handles energies differently exactness in prediction or the discovery of past lives cannot be something on which we can depend.

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Keys Posts 2012, Part 6

This entry is part 19 of 40 in the series 2012A

March 14, 2012

The Majority Speaks

I’ve decided to do some posting on my political site. Read the first one here:

 

March 16, 2012

After Death

Tom writes: My G- ma died 5 years ago and was wondering if she still remembers me in the afterlife? Does one’s memory vary from area to area like the astral and mental plane?

JJ DK makes an interesting statement about memory in the next world I haven’t read anywhere else. He says we take with us our three most important memories centered around significant life lessons. I believe, however, this applies to us after we have settled down in our designated afterlife and start preparing for the next. Before that we keep our memories until we have our life review and then some time after.

Of course the higher you go in the various levels the more access you have. I would suppose that those in the higher mental and above can access whatever memories they want but these would be the least interested in doing so because they will be centered on the future rather than the past.

Our memories are not lost but stored in our permanent atoms and can be accessed through the soul whenever it may be necessary. This can be done right here in the physical as well as the next world if Higher Will sees it as necessary or if the right process is followed.

Tom If one is in the sleep state or deva or David state…will one still contain memories of their last life on earth?

JJ If one goes to the religious heaven or devachan he will enter a dream world. Just as in a dream you have vague and sometimes inaccurate memories of your waking life even so there you will construct a dream like reality that is linked to this life but not fully connected.

Tom: Another question…Why is some forms of death have to be so awful…imagine being burned to death or chocking to death? Imagine being torture or dying from drowning? Why must some forms of death be so unpleasant?

JJ Two reasons. First, all painful experiences are great learning devices that make us strong people in the long run. Secondly, there are many things about creation and life that couldn’t materialize and evolve any other way than it has. Just like the universe could not exist without gravity we also need the duality of pain and pleasure to fully evolve.

Eventually we will master the dualities so such painful deaths and circumstances will become a thing of the past.

 

March 17, 2012

Accessing Past Lives

They can be accessed in some people by hypnosis, guided meditation, regular meditation, suggestive dreaming and intuitively. Also if the soul concludes the seeker needs to know something it will be revealed in some way.

 

March 20, 2012

Microwave test – food for thought

Ruth posted some interesting information on microwaving taken from HERE

One side of the microwave debate insists that its use should be avoided at all costs – that any use of it is dangerous. They claim it damages the DNA and alters the food so it is harmful.

I think the truth is somewhat in between.

The site gives an experiment where plants are grown with regular and microwaved water. Ashley then gives us this Snopes reference where another experiment yields no measurable difference.

This reminds me of a time I was talking to a natural health practitioner and she told me that you shouldn’t even heat up water in a microwave. Apparently it changes the polarity of the molecules and makes it dead. She said that microwaved water is so lifeless that it cannot even sprout seeds.

Well, I don’t microwave much food because it just doesn’t taste as good and taste is an indicate of quality, but I do heat up coffee, tea and water in the microwave. I was suspicious so I put her words to the test.

I sorted out two batches of seeds to sprout. For the first batch I used regular water that hadn’t been microwaved and for the second batch I used water that had been liberally boiled in the microwave. I watered the two sets of seeds with the two waters until they reached maturity and couldn’t tell the difference between the two. The lady was definitely wrong about microwaved water not being able to sprout seeds.

As far as its effect on foods go I would like to see more research carried out. My gut feeling is that microwaved food does have drawbacks and is not as good for you as regular cooking but is not as bad as some claim.

I personally use a microwave sparing such as warming liquids and warming food up if in a hurry. I never cook in a microwave.

 

March 25, 2012

Why it is ethical to eat meat

I’m entering this post in a contest sponsored by the New York Times. The one who writes the best article on “Why it is ethical to eat meat” will get published there. I am limited to 600 words and could have done the article much more justice with a couple thousand. Here is a preview:

NOTE They didn’t select mine.  The winner is posted here.

The winning posted should have been titled “Why it is Ethical to Eat Some Meat.

 

April 1, 2012

Animal Destiny

Dan: And for anybody that wonders, we use ZERO chemicals of any kind on them and they eat only their natural food – weeds, leaves and grasses. We do give them free choice salt, minerals and baking soda.

JJ A lot of people do not realize that small farmers like yourself often take better care of animals than many people do their kids and their meat, eggs and milk is better quality than the government certified organic. If you want good meat products just search Craig’s list for a local guy with meat, eggs or milk for sale. Local whole foods markets also often sell products from local farmers.

 

April 5, 2012

The Milgram Experiment

The Milgram experiment illustrates perhaps the greatest flaw in our human nature. Most of us desire to conform to authority and associates more than we desire to do the right thing or follow the highest we know. This experiment illustrates how it is that often we see that 100% of the Republicans vote with their side and 100% of the Democrats vote with their side even though one choice is always better for the country than the other.

Here is my original article on the Milgram experiment followed by links to a modern repetition of it.

Date: 14 Dec 1998

A while back Dateline had a special on the power of Authority.

They started the show by showing an old clip from Candid Camera. In this clip the victim of the show entered an elevator with about six other people in it. The funny thing was that the other six (who worked with Candid Camera) were told to face different directions at different times.

Now normally when you are in an elevator you face the door, but this group all faced the inside panel with their backs toward the door. Even though this was very odd the victim did not want to be different so he turned with his back toward the door. Then they showed several clips of the people in the elevator and every time the group turned, the victim turned with them.

It seemed kind of funny and I’m sure the Candid Camera audience got a good laugh out of it, but the reality behind this is the scariest human trait we possess. That is, most of mankind will follow the leader or group even if it makes no sense or if it goes against every moral teaching they have ever been taught.

The second part of the feature had an experiment done with college students. Again they had an unsuspecting victim participating with a group of about a half dozen that knew what was going on. The group was shown a set of four lines and of the four there were two of equal length. They were then asked to pick the two lines that were equal. They showed the lines on TV and it was obvious which two were the correct match.

The next thing they did was to have the planted students all give the same wrong match. Then when it became the victim’s turn you could tell he began to doubt what his eyes and reasoning were telling him. Some of the victims gave the right answer for a round or two but one by one each victim gave in and started giving the wrong answer as the right answer, even though he knew within himself that it was wrong.

The interesting thing about watching their faces on TV was that they all looked a little depressed when they started knowingly giving the wrong answers as right answers. It was almost like the poor kids were selling their souls.

Finally they showed the most alarming experiment of all which was conducted by Stanley Milgram way back in the sixties.

Milgram was curious about how a group of apparently normal people like the Germans could have participated in the Nazi atrocities which was against every moral teaching that they ever believed in. Their excuse was always the same: “I was just following orders..”

Below is a description of the experiment:

<<<In the experiment, so-called “teachers” (who were actually the unknowing subjects of the experiment) were recruited by Milgram. They were asked to administer an electric shock of increasing intensity to a “learner” for each mistake he made during the experiment. The fictitious story given to these “teachers” was that the experiment was exploring effects of punishment (for incorrect responses) on learning behavior. The “teacher” was not aware that the “learner” in the study was actually an actor – – merely indicating discomfort as the “teacher” increased the electric shocks.>

When the “teacher” asked whether increased shocks should be given he/she was verbally encouraged to continue. Sixty-five percent of the “teachers” obeyed orders to punish the learner to the very end of the 450-volt scale! No subject stopped before reaching 300 volts!

At times, the worried “teachers” questioned the experimenter, asking who was responsible for any harmful effects resulting from shocking the learner at such a high level. Upon receiving the answer that the experimenter assumed full responsibility, teachers seemed to accept the response and continue shocking, even though some were obviously extremely uncomfortable in doing so.

What was interesting about watching this on Dateline was that when the subject hit the high voltage the pretended victim screamed like crazy and even said he had a bad heart and that the experiment was killing him.

The subject then turned to the authority as if asking what to do and the authority told him to continue. If the subject seemed to doubt the authority told him that he would take responsibility.

Then the subject continued to shock the supposed victim past 300 volts until he went silent. This indicated the victim was either unconscious or dead. Still the subject did not cease. He continued to increase the voltage clear up to 450 which would mean that if the victim was not dead yet this would surely kill him.

The interesting thing is that if this was a real happening, the subject would not only have killed another human being which was against every teaching that he believed in, but he would have also been brought up on murder charges. It is scary that even that possibility did not deter the subject from following authority.

The funny thing about these experiments is that the scientists predicted that only one out of a thousand would follow an authority to shock up to 450 volts, but 65% went that far and 100% of the subjects went up to 300 volts, which is still enough to kill.

Thus we have a great example of the true mark of the beast on the right hand – the willingness to follow blind authority no matter what the consequences.

The interesting thing is that very few people know themselves well enough to know whether or not they would administer the 300 or more volts to an innocent brother. Most would think that they would never do such a thing, but are they right? Remember, 100% of those in the experiment yielded to the authority.

Even more sinister is the mark in the forehead. Remember the philosophy of Big Brother in the novel 1984? It was not enough that people did as they were told. In addition to this he demanded that they also love Big Brother and totally embrace everything he stood for in their belief system. If someone was caught having independent thought he was not executed immediately. First he had to be brainwashed into loving Big Brother and when the victim demonstrated that he was willing to accept an obvious falsehood from Big Brother with Love, then he was shot, but not before.

Now we must remember that over half of the world’s population is under the direct obvious control of some Big Brother type of government. For these inhabitants there is often no way for immediate escape from the mark of the Beast. They have to at least pretend to go along or they will not be able to get work, will not be able to buy or sell and may wind up executed.

It’s a little different in the Free World. We do not have to receive the mark here; instead, we embrace it by our own free will, just as do the subjects in the Milgram experiment. They were free. They could have gotten up any moment and left, but they did not.

Kyle said that perhaps religion administers the mark of the beast in the free world. Yes, this is true as shown by Jonestown, Heavens Gate and your fanatical neighbor down the street, but this is only part of the mark.

The mark is demonstrated before us right now on TV by the Democrats and Republicans in the impeachment proceedings. Both sides are going along with group thought. I think out of the 435 Representatives only one Republican and no Democrats defied their party thoughtform and authoritative leaders on the last Impeachment vote.

One of about 435 going against accepted authorities. That’s how powerful the beast is! It doesn’t matter to the beast if you are Republican or Democrat, or even which is closer to the truth. What matters is control.

The question we need to ask ourselves is: “Would I be strong enough to be one out of the 435?”

Would we have been strong enough as an early Christian to refuse to acknowledge Caesar as God and allow ourselves to be fed to lions?

Putting religion aside you have to admire these followers of Christ who gave their lives to defy the beast. Their lives were not in vain, for they paved the way to the wounding of the beast. Now finally we are in a point in time and space where the whole beast will be destroyed, but before we can destroy such an enemy we must know and understand what it is and how it functions.

The beast, as a whole, is not a country or anything physical, but is blind authority and is demonstrated by the “blind following the blind.”

The beast is destroyed by opening the eyes of the blind, and this we shall do with power and great glory, but first we must open our own eyes to the one authority – the Spirit of God within us.

They did a modern version of the Milgram experiment. Check out this three part video.

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Gathering of Lights 2012

This entry is part 15 of 40 in the series 2012A

Come to Boise and learn directly from JJ for three days

The time of this year’s gathering is approaching. If you plan on coming please let us know as soon as possible.

We have reserved June 22-24 for the gathering date again this year; similar to the time we did last year at the same location.

The 2012 gathering will start Friday June 22 at 6 PM and the meeting room will open around 5 PM. If you arrive on the 22nd instead of the 21st you can save a day’s room rent.  The gathering will officially end around 4 PM Sunday the 24th, but if everyone is in the mood it could go on longer as it has in the past.

The Keynote of the gathering will be:

Are our pet beliefs true or false?

We will examine the following as time permits:

  • Have humans been here thousands, millions or billions of years?
  • Duality is two sides of the same coin. There is no good or evil.
  • There are no accidents
  • There are no coincidences
  • It was meant to be
  • We should go with the flow
  • Life isn’t fair
  • There is a reason for everything
  • Time and purpose for everything
  • The cost of freedom is eternal vigilance
  • The ends do not justify the means
  • Does everyone follow their self interest and therefore are selfish?
  • Where is the middle way?
  • Where do you draw the line on behavior
  • You find what you are looking for.
  • Do not Judge

Then we’ll do various types of group work, meditations, past life regression and what happens between lives.

LOCATION

The location will be the Best Western Vista Inn. We received very favorable comments on this location the past couple years. The rates range from about $64-$75 for a room for up to two people.

There are plenty of restaurants nearby and it is right next to a Kopper Kitchen and across the street from Dennys.

The charge for attending will be the same as last year. Singles will cost $60 and for couples the charge will be $109.

The website for the motel is HERE

Here is contact information:

Best Western Vista Inn at the Airport 2645 Airport Way, Boise, Idaho 83705-5001 Phone: 208/336-8100 | Fax: 208/342-3060 We’ll be talking about some interesting things again. In addition to past lives we’ll explore life between incarnations.

We’ll look forward to seeing old friends again. If you are coming email us at jjdewey@gmail.com or call Artie at 1-800-390-5687.

Past and Future Lives, Part 2

This entry is part 24 of 49 in the series JJ Lectures

When I was about twelve our neighbor got a book about Bridey Murphy. Has everyone heard of that? She was talking about it with my Mom and referring to past lives and I thought that is it! That makes sense to me. This really struck a chord and from that moment on I believed in reincarnation. Then my Dad, who was an inventor, invented this kitty litter and in 1956 he sold everything he had and invested it all in this kitty litter plant. Customers bought a kit that had a cardboard litterbox and a bag of kitty litter. You open up the kit and you throw the bag of sand in the box and when it was used then you throw the box and the sand away and buy a new one. He and my uncle put everything they had into this and everything looked good and they began to sell everything locally and were ready to go national. Sears placed a large order and they put every penny they had into producing as many of these as they could. The printer that was printing these boxes did a bad job and so they had to have all the boxes reprinted. But they had spent all their money and did not have enough money to reprint the boxes and so they went under. If not for that one little fluke then I would probably have a really big inheritance today. Because kitty litter is a really big business today and my Dad was the one who invented it.

So he lost everything. At that time we had a 1956 Studebaker Golden Hawk and it was the best looking sports car around and everywhere my dad went people would gather around to take a look at it. Well that was repossessed and we got this old 1936 Ford pick up that was about on its last leg. We moved over to the big city of Letha, Idaho in between New Plymouth and Emmett. I found out that I made up about 2% of the population there and that is where I met Wayne. His dad owned half the town and was still a poor man.

Audience: Laughter

JJ: But anyway we went from just being on the verge of living the good life and making millions to losing everything almost instantly. In Letha is where I kind of got some influence from the church because my grandmother thought, ah Joe is moving here and I can get him going to church. My grandmother loved the church very much. She was a very sweet gal and everybody that met her thought she was the most wonderful person in the world and my dad liked her too. When my dad was growing up she always hauled him off to church and he could not say no to her because she was so sweet. When my mom married my dad she thought she was marrying a religious guy who always went to church. But right after they got settled into the marriage she says to dad, lets go to church and he said, I am never going to church again as long as I live. And she says, what I though I married a good Mormon here! And he says, no, my mom hauled me off to church every Sunday since the day I was born and I could not say no to her and now that I am away from her I am never going again! So my dad became a notorious drinker and partier for pretty much the rest of his life. He was an interesting guy to be around but he was not really religious or anything.

JJ: So anyway my grandmother had her sights set on me when we lived there and she used to drive by and pick me up for church. I would look through the window on Sunday morning and if I saw her driving by (we lived near a prune orchard) I would hop out the back window and run off in the orchard and hide.

Audience: Chuckling!

JJ: But sometimes when she drove up I was asleep and she just caught me and she was so sweet that you just couldn’t say no to her and I could understand why my dad could never say no to her. She was just the sweetest little gal you ever met. So when she caught me I went to church. When we went to church me and this other kid, Larry Larson – who Wayne will remember – in Sunday school we were the best behaved and the teacher would always point out to the rest of the class how much Joe and Larry over here were so nice and paying attention and why could not he rest of the kids be more like us. Larry and I would look at each other and say, that is because we are bored stiff!

Audience: Chuckling!

JJ: These other kids were throwing candy and erasers and we were just bored with this whole church thing. Then one day it was Easter and I was feeling a little guilty and I thought I should go to church since it was Easter and so by this time my mom had moved about a block away from the church and I was walking over to it. I was thinking to myself, lets look at this church thing logically. According to religion if I am a good guy and go to church every Sunday then when I die I will go to some heavenly bliss for all eternity. I thought that is really not a bad deal if the heavenly bliss is what they build it up to be. After all, a snap of a finger in relation to a lifetime is like a lifetime in relation to eternity.

I began to reason within myself that it is kind of like taking a test for an hour to determine the quality of the rest of your life. I thought why would I not endure a test for an hour even if it were boring if the reward was so great? So I thought maybe I should try this out logically and I made a deal with myself to attend church for six weeks. The only trouble was I didn’t know if I could handle the boredom.

Interestingly, a few weeks before that the bishop called me and he says how come you do not go to church regularly? I told him because it is really boring. And he says, boring!!! He acted like he had never heard anybody say that before. He says what could it possibly be boring? I said the songs; the hymns are just so boring and they put you to sleep. He says they are lovely hymns and everybody loves them! I said not me, now Elvis I like him, and rock and roll is fine and I am sorry but it pains me to listen to the hymns. He says what else bothers you? I said the speeches and sermons; they are just so boring. The speakers say nothing new and they just drag along. He says we have some wonderful speakers in our church and I don’t understand for everybody loves them. I said well not me they are just boring. Anyway, a few weeks later I was walking along and I thought if I decide to got to church the only thing that I am not sure that I can handle is the boredom. So I will make a deal with my self and go for six weeks and if I can handle the boredom for six weeks then I will go the rest of my life and if I can’t then I will be like my dad and eat drink and be merry.

So I started going for six weeks and thanks to friends like Wayne and others that were like him in the group of guys I seemed to have handled it.

Wayne: We taught him how to be rowdy!

JJ: They taught me how to enjoy myself but rather than just follow I took the lead and I started these contests as to who could bring the most outrageous thing to eat and the biggest thing to drink during the Sunday meetings and not get caught. Well our friend John Cannon won the contest; he brought a quart bottle of Pepsi and drank the whole thing during the Sacrament meeting without getting caught. That was pretty hard thing to do! I brought pork chops and eat them.

Audience: Laughing!

JJ: All the kids thought that was the most outrageous thing they had ever seen. Then I learned to join in with the rest of the kids in doing some hellraising and it kind of broke the monotony.

The bishop hauled me in one more time and said I heard you believe in reincarnation and I said well yea and he said let me read you a scripture, “it is given in a man once to die and after this the judgment.” And I read it and thought; it does seem to say that doesn’t it. He said yes there is only one life. Then he said I also heard you drink and smoke. I said well, sometimes! I was only twelve!

Audience: Laughing!

JJ: He says you are not supposed to drink and smoke. I said really I did not know that! So he committed me to not drink and smoke. So I was a pretty good guy for quite some time and obeyed all the rules. Then my brother in-law who was interested in a bunch of oddball stuff, came by one time and he and he left this book on hypnosis. In those days, around 1959, you could not even find a book on hypnosis, and now these books are widely available. He had gotten this book written by a stage hypnotist and I read all the way through it and then at the end it finally told you how to hypnotize someone. So I studied it over carefully and experimented with a couple of my friends and it seemed to work and then I started doing it at school and at church and it seemed to work at the time and after church I would take people into a room that nobody was in and hypnotize them. And then at school during the lunch hour I would take some kids out on the lawn and then have them do crazy stuff. Then I got it from two different sides, the bishop calls and says you are not supposed to be hypnotizing people and I said does it say anything in the Bible about that?

Audience: Laughter

JJ: He says well no and I said I would just keep doing it then. (Laughter) He really did not have a good answer for me and he said well you just be careful because that could be dangerous.

The same thing happened in high school. My teachers all pointed me out right in the middle of class and said, you should not be hypnotizing people! I said, why not? Is it illegal? The teacher answered, Well, no I don’t think so. Is it against school rules? Not that I know of. They did not have anything in the school rules about it so I said well I guess I will just keep doing it then. Laughing! I had a couple teachers that were really negative on me but there was no rule against it so I just kept doing it.

So we had a lot of fun things happen and I will tell you about one in particular. This one guy comes up to me and says I hear you can hypnotize somebody to eat an onion and it will taste like a peach or something like that. I asked him if he wanted to do that and he said yes. So I started to put him under and there is one thing I discovered about hypnosis at that time, is that nothing takes a person out of a trance faster than laughter. As a matter of fact, people will not laugh under deep hypnosis unless you tell them to laugh, So I was putting him under and it was going well, well enough so that he could eat an onion and it would taste like a peach and then someone cracked a joke and everybody started to laugh. The guy came partially out of his trance and he started laughing too. I was not positive how deep I had him under because the laughter kind of broke the atmosphere but I thought had him deep enough and so I told him after I wake you up we are going to go down to Brownies, the local grocery store, and get you an onion and you are going to eat it and it will taste like a peach. So I woke him up and a big crowd of us students goes down to the corner local grocery store and there is nobody in it but one clerk. There was big box of onions next to the counter and the guy goes up and says, I want one onion please, and he grabs the onion and looks at it and the clerk looks at him like, what are these high school kids up to now. The kid then takes a bite out of the onion and begins chewing and then all of a sudden he spits it out all over the floor. Laughing! Apparently I did not have him under deep enough!

Audience: Laughing!

JJ: That was one time I lost a little bit of credibility with that group. I had done this many other times where I had them do stuff like that but that laughter must have broke the trance and suggestion. Hypnosis kind of led me to discover past lives and the first time that really got me going was when Wayne and I were double dating. That is Wayne from the book right over there, and to break the monotony Wayne tells the gals that my friend here is a hypnotist and would you like to be hypnotized and the gal says yes.

She was a pretty good subject and I had taken several people back to the day they were born and it was kind of interesting to see them re-live their first few hours. Some people say they can’t see hardly at all for a couple days and it takes a while for their eyes to adjust and almost everybody says they really feel and sense their mother’s love, so anyway I took her back to the day she was born and as I said she was a pretty good subject. As a Mormon we believed in pre-existence but not reincarnation and the Mormons believe in only one life but you did live before you were born in heavenly spheres. So I wondered what would happen if I took her back to before she was born and what she would say. So I told her to go back before she born and then she began speaking with an English accent and gave her name – that she lived in northern England. What was interesting about this was when I was a young Mormon I went on a 2 year mission to northern England exactly in the area where she said she lived in a past life.

What is interesting about England is that accent is different in different parts of the country just as the accent is different for people in different parts of the south or in Boston and so on. It is the same thing in England where there are different variations of accents in northern and southern England. Most of what we hear is what they call the Queen’s English or the James Bond accent but in northern England they speak a lot faster and it is a lot harder to understand. But anyway in her past life she had lived in northern England and I had spent 2 years in northern England so I knew the accent well but what really got my motor going is that when regressed she spoke with a perfect northern British accent that hardly anybody here would recognize. I thought wow she speaks with a perfect northern British accent, this is amazing. That was the first scientific evidence that made me really doubt the one life idea.

Then I had this girlfriend over in Portland and we were attending a party after church and it was at a member’s house. It was kind of boring so I told everybody there that I was a hypnotist and that I could take people back to the day they were born if someone wants to go back. Everybody said, oh really, they seemed to have doubt that this was possible. Then the lady of the house said put me in a chair and take me back. Now about this time as I was getting ready to take her back her husband had to run out for snacks so he took off to the store. Then I took her back to the day she was born. Then I thought lets try going back to the previous life and see if anything materializes again. Now this was only the second time I had tried to take someone back beyond their birth.

So I took her back to before she was born and she went back to the days of the Roman Empire and said that she was married to a Roman senator named Marcus Aurelius, not the emperor but another guy with that name in the senate, and another interesting fact about that life is that he was killed in battle. Then I took her back to an even earlier life in prehistoric primitive times and she described different types of animals than there are today. Then her husband returned and I brought her back to the present and everybody says take him back. He did not know what was going on so he said, back where? So we sat him down and took him back with the same procedure and I said what is your name?

He said Marcus Aurelius, a Roman senator. You should have seen all these Mormons because they were not supposed to believe in reincarnation! So I quizzed him and I said how did you die and he said I was killed in battle. He gave the same story she gave and then I took him farther back and he went back to prehistoric times as well and I said was your current wife your wife in prehistoric times? He said yes, we did not have an official marriage back then but we spent our lives together. I asked him, when you met in this life did you seem familiar to each other and he said yes, he proposed about a week after they had met and they knew immediately that we were supposed to be together. So we had discovered two lifetimes they had together and that explained why they immediately recognized each other in this life and being good Mormons they thought that it was from the heavenly spirit world that they knew each other but by taking them back we discovered it was reincarnation.

The interesting thing is that it shook up a lot of people there and people came to me said, this shakes my testimony and I said I do not want to destroy anybody’s faith and this could be like a genetic memory and there a number of explanations for it. And even though I had seen all this proof myself I still did not believe it 100% and I did not believe it 100% until I had several other unusual experiences.

 

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Past and Future Lives, Part 1

This entry is part 23 of 49 in the series JJ Lectures

The subject today is past and future lives. The course of time between the past and the future is sometimes called a time line or a time track. Visualize it like a railroad track where you can go backward or forward and the present is where the train is kind of stopped. A lot of people think that going into the past is possible but what about going into the future? Going into the future is a little tricky because the future is not created yet, but the future is projected and the end of certain of cycles is pretty much set in stone.

For instance this earth has a beginning, middle and an end. The end is set and there is no way the earth or any form is going to last forever. However, what is in the middle is malleable, flexible and changes according to decisions made. We have all seen the time travel movies where a guy travels back to the past and he does something in there that was different and all of a sudden the future and present are changed. Like the guy goes back and receives a wound on the face and he develops a scar immediately in the present. So what he did by altering the past was he changed the future and the future changed instantly.

The idea of the movie, the “Butterfly Effect,” comes from Ray Bradbury’s story, “The Sound of Thunder,” where they go back in the past and receive strict instructions not to touch anything and one guy falls off the track and he kills this butterfly and that was the only change they made like 200 million years ago. Then they came back to the present and they were ruled by a Hitler type government and everything had been changed because of one little butterfly. So it is interesting that what is in between the certain set cycles is still malleable. But there is a time track and a projection into the future and that projection into the future is what the psychics and the prophets see but they are often wrong and the reason they are wrong is because it is not set. But there certain things that are set, there are certain cycles and when the end of a cycle happens certain things will occur.

The Masters study these cycles and they predict the end and the beginning of various cycles. As a matter of fact the famous prophecy made by Jesus in Matthew 24 is really about cycles. In the regular version it says, “Tell us about thy coming in the end of the world,” but that is a complete mistranslation. “World” comes from the Greek word aonian, which means, “an age.” So what they were really asking here is tell us about the end of the age or the end of the cycle. So Jesus began predicting certain things at the end of a cycle. These are the easiest things to predict because cycles repeat. You have heard the term “history repeats itself.” He is merely talking about the end of a cycle and the beginning of a new cycle when these prophecies were made.

Cyclic prediction is the most reliable and this is what astrology does as well but astrology is very complicated because you are dealing with cycles that involve all of the planets plus the sun and moon so you have a lot of complicated cycles to deal with. If a good astrologer understands the cycles and the symbolism he gives can be fairly accurate. So it is interesting that what is in between the various cycles is malleable. It is a little like you being Leonardo Da Vinci and you are going to paint the “Mona Lisa.” You have a vision in your mind what the painting is going to look like when it is done but when you start painting it you begin to make changes – say maybe the color here needs to be different and the eyes are wrong so you change them. In the between the beginning and the end you do a lot of things that you did not know you were going to do. You just knew how you wanted it to end but you had a rough idea of all the details. Maybe you knew your work hours, you knew the types of paint you were going to use, the type of canvas, how talented you were and what work you were capable of doing, but all the little mistakes that you make in between are impossible to predict.

I use to have arguments with the born again Christians sometimes and they would say, God knows everything and I would say, did God know I was going to snap my fingers right now and they would say yes! Well why would He even want to know that? Why would He want to clutter His mind up with such detail? If you were the creator of the Mona Lisa do you want to clutter your mind up with every little brush stroke and detail? Does God want to clutter his mind with future details like when people scratch an itch? No life form would have any interest in such trivia. But what all the greater lives are interested in are the cycles – the beginning, the end and then making the end good, making the end better than the beginning. This is probably the strongest argument for reincarnation; in the fact that if everything we observe goes in cycles then wouldn’t our lives go in cycles too?

Within a lifetime we have various cycles, you have seven year cycles, fourteen year cycles, you have your Saturn cycle which is a little over twenty eight years. You have several cycles within your life and when you examine them you can see how they have played out. It is a good idea to examine your life in cycles of ten years. You can examine your life for achievement and setting goals and this type of thing. So look at the cycles of decades in the past and then you want to project the next ten years and compare it to the last ten years. Cycles are a bit like wave lengths but also spirals. The wave length gets bigger and bigger or smaller and smaller depending on whether it is ascending or descending.

The end of the cycle is always different from the beginning. In the Book of Revelations God says, “Behold I do all things new.” Yet we always hear in church that God always does the same thing but He does not really say that. He only says the He is the same in the fact that He is dependable but He says “I do all things new.” He says this several times in the Old Testament and the New Testament. Now if God does all things new – that presents a much different idea than what we hear in the churches of the world. He does things new when a new age begins and it begins in a new wavelength that is a bit stronger or a higher octave than the old cycle. We are at the beginning of the Aquarian Age and it is more constructive than the beginning of the Piscean Age.

We look back to the days of Jesus and the average life span was 27 years and now the average life span is about 75 years for male and 77 for females. Females live longer because they give us guys such a hard time that we end up living a couple of years less!

Audience: Laughing!

JJ: I had to throw that in!

So at the end of an age things are always at a little higher vibration than the previous age unless there is a big mistake made for few things are 100% predictable. Every once in a while a new age is worse than an old age and it has to be compensated for. This does not happen very often but it happened in the days of Atlantis when it was destroyed. They had a great anti-Christ there which was actually Hitler in a past life and in that life he succeeded and so he paved the way for the destruction of the whole continent. So this is an example of an age that did not work out very well. In Atlantis the dark brothers had actually conquered The Brotherhood of Light and the only thing that the Lord of the World could do was to allow destruction and begin anew.

Audience: But it did not destroy the world it destroyed Atlantis.

Yes they did not destroy the whole planet but destroyed the continent. The continent went through several destructions but there was a core battle between what was called the dark lords or the lords of dark face, and the Brotherhood of Light. The Light Brothers in that life lost but then we came back and we corrected it here and this time Hitler was defeated by the Allies, but he was just barely defeated. If you study World War II you’ll see some of the things that could have turned and led Hitler to victory. There were about 5 or 6 bad decisions that Hitler made and if he would not have made them then there was a good chance that he would have won World War II. Driving Einstein out of the country, which led to the development of the atomic bomb by the Allies, is certainly something that we should be thankful for. Another example is the battle of Dunkirk where Britain had thousands of soldiers rescued so they could fight again. Then there was The Battle of Britain where they just had a handful of pilots in the air at the end. If Hitler would have known how few planes England had left he would have continued and won the battle. If he would have had a little patience and waited on invading Russia and concentrated on us instead he would have probably won. It’s kind of unsettling to thin k about it.

Rob: So when an age does not work out the way that it supposed to then you say there is some kind of compensation?

JJ: Well it is a little like a lifetime. If you screw up a lifetime then you must come back and repeat a similar situation where you succeed this time. Like if you commit suicide because you are depressed because you are not succeeding you come back and wind up in a similar situation. This time, when you are thinking of committing suicide you get a little déjà vu and you think, well I am sensing that this is not going to work. Because you have already done it and now you are right back there again. So this time maybe you do not commit suicide or maybe you commit suicide two lifetimes in a row but you keep coming back until finally you learn your lesson and you do it right.

Now most lifetimes we go through we do it basically right and we learn some lessons. It may not seem that way sometimes but we often learn more than we think we do. And then some lifetimes we do legitimately screw up and this is the same thing with an age. In most ages we learn something and then we go on and the next age is better. Then once in a while humanity will just screw up an age and become ripe for destruction. Civilizations in the past has been destroyed quite a few times on this planet and now we do have the power to destroy our selves like we have never done before. Hopefully we are smart enough to work through it together and develop peace on earth and goodwill toward men.

The main subject here is reincarnation and I will talk to you just a little bit before we take you back. I believed in reincarnation naturally, so to speak, and when I was young my parents did not take me to church or anything. My dad was a notorious drinker and he was not very religious at all. My parents were baptized in the Mormon Church and about once a year or so maybe Easter my Mom would haul me off to church and I would disrupt things because I did not know what was going on and I did not like it.

Audience: Laughing!

I usually embarrassed her so she only went on special occasions. I do not remember much about religion when young except for when I was a child about 5 or 6 and I remember thinking, 5 or 6 years ago I was not even here. I thought, where in the world was I? I used to think about that a lot and from the time.

 

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Kalispell Gathering 2006, Part 27

This entry is part 12 of 24 in the series Kalispell Gathering 2006

Regression

JJ: We are going to begin the regression part here and I would like everyone to just get comfortable in your seats and relax. A good portion of you will go back and for those who do not at least you will have good relaxing time.

JJ: Take three deep breaths.

Audience: (Breathing in and out deeply three times)

JJ: Very good. Now close your eyes and see yourself walking along a path on a beautiful green field, the path is not very worn but it is pronounced enough that you can see the a pathway and tell it is leading somewhere. You are walking along and you enter into a beautiful forest with animals, birds, and insects, you feel the forest is friendly and nothing is going to harm you. You feel like you are one with nature, you are confident, you’re walking through the forest and you feel a flitter of sun rays landing on you and they feel warm and good as you are walking through the forest.

You walk along and pretty soon you come to a lake that is clear as crystal and you look into the lake see clear down to the bottom. You see fish swimming, some big fish, some small, and the water seems to be alive, the fish are alive, it so wonderful to look at the lake, you see a boat and you hop in and begin to row into the lake. When you look down you see the lake and is very deep and beautiful. It’s amazing how clear it is. It must be a mile down but it is clear as looking into the sky and this makes you feel very peaceful, the only wave is the slight wave from the boat. Behind the waves gather back again very peaceful and calm and you feel like you could be in this lake for a long time, because it is so peaceful and calm.

You feel an energy coming from the water itself. You put your hand over the edge of the boat into the water and feels cool, alive, and refreshing to the touch. It is like the water feeds you and moves your hand in the water and feels so very good. You continue to the other side of the lake that is not very far away. You are going over there and on the other side of the lake when you stand on the shore you will be able to look into your past. You will be able to go there and feel what you felt then, see what you saw then, hear what you heard then, and know what you knew then.

You are going to make 10 strokes with the oar and by the tenth one you will be on the other side and into your, past life. One stroke with the oar…two…three…you look at the shore and images begin to appear, you sense something, hear something, four…five…six…seven…eight…nine…and ten you get out and stand up on the other side and as you walk on the shore on the other side you are walking into your past life. Into life before this 21st century back into the past.

I am going to count to seven and on the count of seven you will be in the past, you will know who you are and be aware of what you were aware of then, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, your name is coming to you, you are aware of what country you are in, you are now aware of what time you are in, who is the person you love the most? Why were you born into this particular life? What did you learn? Start at the beginning and see this life clear to the end and ask your self what did I learn? What was the lesson I came here for?

Now you walk a little further and you come to a stairway, and the stairway will take farther into the past still, you are going down steps back into another past life, one, two, three, four, back into the past, five, further back, six, seven, it is becoming clear, eight, nine, ten. You know who you are; you know what your name is. Do you know why you are in this life? It is coming to you what you learned. What was your lesson? What did you achieve? You are looking at an interesting time period in this life, what happened? The vision of this time period is going before you and you can see it clearly.

Spend just a minute in this time period because you can see any part that you want from beginning to end and see what it is that you learned. See what it is that you can take with you into this current life. Take a look. Now I am going to count to three and it will take up into the present, you will feel really good, really relaxed and very peaceful, one, coming back to the present, two, almost here, three, you are in the present. It took Joe a minute to get here; you must have been really deep in there. How many had some experiences? Suzi did you have one?

Audience: (Suzi) Mine was pretty big, I got just a little bit.
Next member: I think I was in 1200 BC and I had some relationship to pharaoh, my name was Samuel. Compassion was the gift that I learned.

JJ: Compassion, that is unusual in ancient Egypt to learn compassion.

Audience: (Shirley) It is funny that you saw ancient Egypt because that is exactly what I saw. I was 15 year old, girl and I was breaking bread, and I got the lesson of learning the sense of community for that time. That was the only one I got.

JJ: Okay, Joe

Audience: (Joe) I was in a trance.

JJ: You looked like you were somewhere maybe you just cannot remember what you saw. You know if you go really deep, you cannot remember when you come back. Like she could not remember the future when she came back.

Audience: (Joe) I started to see all these colors and then I just do not remember any of it.

JJ: It would be interesting to do this with you individually to see if you did go somewhere.

Audience: I felt the same thing I was gone but I do remember an image and it was the earth from an outer space view.

Audience: (Annie) I also went to Egypt, my lesson was to teach and learn the sun.

Audience: (Dee) I do not know if this is fair but it just happened so quickly and I know I lived at the time of the crusades and I did see battle but it was like a mix with those in the crusades and Indians, the images were overlapping each other and I could not see myself but I saw fighting and then the other image was also fighting and I got some kind of name like bell or something like that and when you said go to the other time I went to where I was a little Dutch and then I saw some men who were laying on the ground who had been fighting and half of them had been killed. The message I got was to love your enemies. I know I was a man in the crusades.

JJ: Interesting

Audience: (Darlene) I think I was a cleaning lady in a previous life as it relates this lifetime. I have a feeling that this lifetime and that lifetime parallels each other and so it is for me to contemplate these same sort of circumstances. I was very good friends with someone there and the time when we went farther back I entered the fairy realm so I enjoyed that.

Audience: I only got one vision, I was a young man named Michael living in London, a very greasy and grimy part of town. I was working in a factory about ten years old and felt like my body was much older. I felt alone in the world, I just really did not have any hope that anything was going to change or that my life was going to get any better. It was quite interesting and I was orphan in the 1800’s and it was very dirty work.

JJ: Wayne, did you get anything?

Audience: (Wayne) No, I was myself going back until you said to figure out who I was and then the identity thing changed a little bit. When you had cross the lake I bumped against the shore of a rather splendid estate, a lot of square cut granite buildings and a series of long steps that disappeared into the water. I tied up the boat and was looking at the building as I walked into a room with a high vaulted ceiling with a man who was tall and slender standing within a few feet of a huge square cut chair. The chair was probably 3 feet across the seat, wider than you would want a chair, on each side was an arm and it took about 4 or5 steps up to reach the chair, so it was elevated from the surrounding floor with a square cut back covered in ivory with gold strips.

JJ: A lot of detail there.

Audience: Yes, I spent some time looking at that chair because it was an amazing piece that did not look like it was made for comfort. It was made for beauty, and standing next to it was this tall slender man with blonde hair about shoulder length. Lanky frame with a long neck, wide forehead and elongated skull, I could not see his eyes clearly but I knew they were blue, I was fascinated by the robe he had that barely came to the top of his feet and you got the sense that if he walked you would see his toes or sandals, it too was in a golden material, a golden thread of some sort stitched into this paisley pattern. He was standing there looking at me and me at him Then it was like I jumped from my mind into his mind and I knew things that he knew.

JJ: Was that you in a past life?

Wayne: Possibly but it was like my soul jumped into his body. Then I realized that I knew quite a bit about his history including what his parents looked like and about his personality. This reminded me of a dream I had years ago where I had seen King Solomon; this vision was Solomon standing in his palace and the water some sort of a mote that surrounded it. When I was in his head I could tell you what David looked like, what Sheba looked like, why he had a 1000 wives.

JJ: Tell us what the queen of Sheba looked like.

Audience: Wayne: She looked like Nefertiti, classic Egyptian. She had a head like Solomon, his being more masculine. Long thin nostrils, elongated eyes, elongated head. Long neck and body with thin shoulders, very delicate features. Maybe a 100 pounds and fairly tall and I felt I could ask Solomon questions about what he did and why while I was there.

Audience: Did you consider yourself a God at that time?

Audience: Wayne: No, not remotely, but I was a bit of an elitist the family that I was associated with was quite important for thousands of years. There was no lack of ego in Solomon and you had to be of some kind of importance to him, other than that you were just part of the herd. He was a bit arrogant but not unkind with it and very detached. He was a part of a family called Edamites and they were more or less traditionally known as descendants as the son of Adam called shim.

JJ: Very good Wayne. Did you get anything Sue?

Audience: Sue: Very little, I got the name Catherine Ann, the year 1100, a stone house of some sort in possibly England but I could not really tell what her purpose was in that life and then I morphed into another lifetime and went into it so deeply that I could not remember.

JJ: You possibly were back somewhere and so deep into it that I would have to take you back individually if that is the case.

Audience: Female member: Not much but the first time I got the name Bethany and it was an area like Germany and a city area and then France, no names and then I do not know where I went.

Audience: Female member: I was in the Philadelphia area the year was 1847 and something to do with Quakers and the name Sarah and after that I was gone.

Audience: Male member: I think I fell asleep and had little dream flashes but I don’t remember.

Audience: female member: the first one I was an Indian woman who was dressed in maybe 1930’s clothing. When you said, whom do you love, she had a husband that she loved and a little girl and they seemed to very happy. Then we went down the stairs and there was this young man, it was late 1700’s and he had dark hair and I did not get a name but he was very handsome, wealthy and it was in England. He was trying to marry in another wealthy family to a woman who was very nice and then it jumped forward and he was very mean and abusive to her then it jumped ahead again to where he was old and laying in a bed about to die from some illness. The message was to live your life being kind to others, this man died miserable and unhappy.

Audience: Is it possible for the same lifetime from the same soul, to be in two lifetimes to be on the same time?

JJ: You mean one person to be in two bodies at one time?

Audience: One soul in two bodies at the same time, yes.

JJ: We were talking about that yesterday, some people believe yes and some people believe no. I have not got a personal revelation on this. There is one train of thought that we are connected to an oversoul and from your personal over soul there are as many as 12 extensions and you may 6 different versions of you walking around the earth somewhere. If you ever, meet one it would be pretty much just like you except raised in different circumstances.

That is one belief system and we are checking to see if The Tibetan said anything about it and He only talks about the oversoul for all humanity. This definitely feels right with me, but I do not really feel that we have an exact duplicate of ourselves, I believe we are linked in different types of groups. Many people that are here right now are linked in some type of group linkage; it is more because of vibration though than it is the same person. Ultimately everybody on earth is connected to the same soul.

DK  says the souls of man are one and I am one. There is a oneness that links us all together and we are one but many so to speak. The best image you can see to convey this is space. Space is one, but in space there are billions of galaxies, solar systems, planets, entities, and yet it is all occupying one space. We do not say that rockets are going through spaces, the Starship Enterprise goes through one space not a billion spaces. It is only one space that occupies and only one soul occupied by many Monads which have developed into human beings. The Monads are like dots in cosmic space so to speak and your dot in cosmic space that has expanded into you.

Copyright 2010 by J J Dewey

True Past Lives

This entry is part 36 of 62 in the series 2010

Posted Sept 6, 2010
I thought I would make a few comments on the recent round of conversations concerning past lives of famous figures and the persons identified in “Secret Places of the Lion.”

George Hunt Williamson claimed to have discovered in Peru a manuscript kept by the White Brotherhood that revealed the essential information in his book. Whether or not this is true, it is true that there is a Goodly Company of advanced souls that incarnate again and again in the service of humanity. One can surmise that a significant person in history who has accomplished a worthwhile service of value may be one of them.

The question is which one? Was Brigham Young Solomon? Was Joseph Smith, Joseph the Father of Jesus or Peter as I indicated or someone else?

Were some members of the Keys back there with Jesus and the Apostles?

It is interesting to speculate, but unless there is some message from a past life that your soul wants you to know the chances of knowing the exact truth is fairly slim.

I have had past life readings from a number of psychics and no two have told me the same thing. There has, however, been a common thread among all the readings, as I recall, and that is they all perceived me as some sort of teacher, shaman or magician that knew things that the people as a whole did not. It would make fascinating reading to reveal some of them.

What does this tell you?

It says that they tuned into the basic true vibration from the Akashic records but could not tune into the fine details with accuracy.

The most likely person to tune into his own past lives is himself. This is because he has a right to know providing his soul is in agreement. We are also the most deceived about our own past lives. Because of glamour we often see ourselves as being more important in the past than we are in the present. If a person claims to be a great one from the past yet does nothing great in the preset then you can be assured that something does not compute.

It is possible for a third party to read our past lives but accuracy is rare unless that person is a master or close to it.

It is a positive thing that we do not remember our past lives for it forces us to focus on the present. After all, the reason we die when we do is that the life has served its purpose and the soul wants to place us in a new and different situation where we will cease concentrating on the old and concentrate on the new.

In summary, Secret Places of the Lion gives us food for thought but I do not think it is 100% accurate. Past lives given by Sharón, me and others are also good food for thought but may or may not be true.

What is true is the present and our power to make something of it. What is also true are all the principles that have been covered on the Keys. These can be taken to the bank of the soul and once understood can be used for the rest of the current life as well as future ones.

A principle truly registered in the psych stays with us for not only the present life, but all future ones. Facts come and go. Therefore, seek understanding of the language of the soul, the language of everlasting principles.

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Ruth writes:
I hear what you are saying JJ and I understand the fact that one must not live under a pretense or glamor about one’s past lives, however, as you have discussed past lives in your teachings, I assumed that we could still piece some things together in the present to get a bigger or better picture and understanding of ancient history etc.

JJ
It’s always good to piece together any truth you can from various pieces of information that is available.

Ruth

“There is a book that comes to mind that I believe to be about 90% accurate. I found it to be one of the most interesting books I have ever read. It is called “Secret Places of the Lion: Alien Influences on Earth’s Destiny” by George Hunt Williamson.” JJ

http://www.freeread.com/archives/80.php

I would say that 90% accurate is a high level, leaving only a margin of 10% error.

Was there a particular reason for you including this book in the Archives, so people could delve into past lives etc?

Just wondering……

JJ
I first read this book many years ago just as I was discovering the principle of reincarnation. It helped to open my eyes to the principle. The 90% figure was a guess. It could be less but probably not more.

JJ Quote:
The most likely person to tune into his own past lives is himself. This is because he has a right to know providing his soul is in agreement. We are also the most deceived about our own past lives. Because of glamour we often see ourselves as being more important in the past than we are in the present. If a person claims to be a great one from the past yet does nothing great in the preset then you can be assured that something does not compute.

Ruth:
What about if that person who had been great in a past life was now having a life of rest? This would mean that this person had spent 6 lives doing possibly great things for humanity, and then would have one lifetime of “rest” or one lifetime wherein he or she spent receiving higher teachings.

JJ
If Einstein was having his Sabbath life as John Doe, he would still have the intelligence of Einstein. When one has a Sabbath life he just doesn’t sit around and do nothing. Often he will do as great a work as ever. Instead of being boxed in with many problems to solve he is freed of many restrictions and can do whatever is fun to him. For many people work is fun. Others just want to go fishing or play golf.

If Abraham Lincoln were here among us enjoying his Sabbath life he would still be a fascinating person but instead of having a great burden of saving the union he would be free do something he liked that was less strenuous.

Quoting JJ
It is possible for a third party to read our past lives but accuracy is rare unless that person is a master or close to it.

Ruth:
So someone with soul contact could possibly be wrong on the past life vibration of another? (I am asking this for a particular reason.)

JJ
Many who have occasional soul contact are incorrect when trying to figure out the past lives of others. I’ve only had my soul give me a past life impression on a couple people and that was because they have been close to me for numerous lifetimes. One of them verified I was correct when I took her back and she revealed the name I was given and information she couldn’t have known from this life.

Ruth
Was it correct of you to state that Susan is a walk in? Would that produce a type of Glamor in her, or within others who would think of her as someone more important now, because she is a walk in?

JJ
I didn’t state positively that she was a walk-in but that her handwriting showed a significant change in personality which could be caused by being a walk-in.

There’s not a lot of glamour over being a walk-in for a walk-in is not always a high initiate, but someone who has a strong desire to serve and pay off karma.

Ruth:
This is kind of confusing to me, because in one instance we are allowed to learn about past lives, and you even do past life regressions through hypnosis, but in another instance, we are told that it is more important to focus on true principles, which is understandable, but then you have stated who you were in a past life and mentioned about Susan, so I am wondering the reasons why you stated these facts?

JJ
I’m confused about why you are confused. I have never said anything to indicate that it is wrong to use means at our disposal to discover past lives. Past life regression has nothing to do with soul contact. Much investigation can occur without having soul contact. I have said that our soul will not reveal them to us unless it is important for us to know. That doesn’t mean there is anything wrong with using our own resources to learn whatever we want whenever we want. What we learn on our own through using regression techniques usually doesn’t usually distract that much, but it could if a person becomes over obsessed with a past identity. Putting too much attention on anything can be a distraction.

By being born with no past life memories we are freed up to concentrate on the present, but that doesn’t mean we do not incorporate the knowledge of discoveries we make along the way.

I have revealed only one past life and that was harmless because it carried with it no authority that I must be followed because of my greatness. There is nothing wrong with revealing who you think you might have been in a past life as long as you do not try to claim you must be followed because you were some great being or use it to establish beastly authority or enhance glamour.

Jesus said the first shall be last and the last first. Some of those who saw themselves as the first in past lives because they were close to Jesus, Buddha, George Washington etc may find themselves unable to deal with the next steps that now have to be taken that are different from the past. The only way out of this cycle is to stay open to new truth as a little child is.

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Tom writes:
I know about walk in….but I have a question on overshadowing. I know
that Christ overshadowed Jesus. Can more than two or three souls/ or person’s occupying the exact same body at the exact same time, or overshadowing the body or only one soul overshadow one body at a time? Does it has to be a master or can if be an advanced soul?

JJ
It is obviously possible for more than two to occupy one body at one time. After all when Jesus cast the evil spirits into the swine they said their name was legion because they were many.

On the side of light there is not the need for such multiple occupations as that would be a waste of time. On the other hand, when Jesus was sharing a body with the Christ he was sharing consciousness with a great host of intelligences connected through the Oneness Principle, but only one other actual entity was dwelling in his living space.

Copyright 2010 by J J Dewey

Einstein

This entry is part 37 of 62 in the series 2010

Tom writes:
I am not too familiar with the history of the plot to kill Hitler, but I know that JJ was the one who planned it, if I am not mistaken. Because you have revealed this life I figured it was ok to bring it up. I am wondering if you have the ability to learn German?

JJ
No. I think a dose of living with the Nazis has made me gun-shy of learning German in this life. We all have spoken other languages in past lives but even so most of us would have to struggle to learn them again.

I have taken people back into past lives where they were able to speak a language of the past but then as soon as they return to the present they can’t remember how to speak it.

Tom
Also, if Einstein was reincarnated you say he will have the same intelligence of Einstein? I Remember in a private Email from you that if one had a mental illness that could effect anyone’s intelligence including Einstein, Newton, Hawking. (I added those names not you) Let say the reincarnation of Einstein had Autism or Dyslexia or some kind of illness that can cause the brain to produce poor language skills. Is this correct that if one is born with such disabilities that it will effect their overall intelligence from a past life?

JJ
If Einstein were born with brain damage then his full intelligence would be handicapped. However, if he were born with a fully functioning body, brain and nervous system, his intelligence would carry over. He may apply it differently in this life but he would still have genius.

Handling Difficulties

This entry is part 55 of 62 in the series 2010

Posted Oct 21, 2010
Blayne writes:
I feel like I have been living The Immortal for for the past month or so. As I have been trying to work on my log home it seems one adversity after another has come my way, it reminded me of Joe going from one seemingly impossible task to the next.. I wondered how I was going to get the roof on, I had no help and it was slow going till my neighbor came up helped me out of the blue loaned me equipment etc.

I even tried to hire some help but no one was interested then a fellow log home builder called and I hired him (even though I couldn’t afford it). So with the 3 of us we got the structural roof on and papered so it can weather the winter but it still needs a sleeper roof with insulation and the metal etc. I was feeling pretty good about that then my truck broke and a few days later my car broke. Then within a day I was driving my wife to the airport and her car broke, all within one week. And the next night my son called and his car had over heated… Needless to say I was beside myself wondering what the heck was going on…

So I have spent the last week working on cars and we had to buy one so we at least had two running cars as My wife’s car is shot the engine threw a rod meaning it needs to be replaced or rebuilt (not cheap). Now I am broke but we have two cars at least. I haven’t even had a chance to work on the truck but It is just the alternator so I can fix that.

JJ
After having gone through a number of life experiences where my bad luck seemed to defy the laws of probability, I feel for you. If it is any comfort I might add that in my experience, sooner or later, things normalize and then even some good fortune presents itself.

It does seem though that the good fortune is usually earned by the sweat of your brow whereas bad fortune can sometimes come like an unannounced tsunami.

Alex writes:
Can regressive hypnosis cause or trigger certain events in future? – Is it any good for everyone, indiscriminately to have access to past lives information? Can it cause damage? Is it always better not to know something one is not supposed to know?

JJ
Each of us has been through many past lives. Some have been pleasant and some not so pleasant. I have found that people are much more likely and willing to visit and explore the more pleasant lives than the painful ones.

Also with a difficult life a person is more willing to recall the good times than the bad times. This is not a black and white rule though for I have had subjects return to very painful times.

It is interesting that returning and reliving painful experiences in past lives can alleviate current physical problems. This is one of the correct things taught by Scientology.

I think I told you the story about a lady who had terrible neck pain in this life. I regressed her and she relived an experience where she was beheaded. After going through this her neck pain disappeared and never came back.

Returning to past lives can therefore at times be helpful rather than a hindrance – but not always. Sometimes past memories can be a distraction in the present and this is one reason we forget so we can forge a new path without the past holding us back.

In this life a terrible mistake can paralyze us so we do nothing but feel sorry for ourselves. But when such a person dies and is reborn with a blank slate he no longer has that memory to hold him back.

Overall I haven’t seen much that can be considered bad results from taking people back. Even when people discover something uncomfortable it usually doesn’t settle with them as strongly as a memory in this life. For instance, if you harm someone in this life you may feel guilt over it, but harm done in a past life is seen more from the viewpoint of the observer and permanent guilt is not likely to resurface.

There is some risk in anything we do so if you decide to be regressed first check your internal barometer and see if taking such an action feels right.
Copyright 2010 by J J Dewey