McCall Gathering 2007, Part 31

This entry is part 31 of 54 in the series McCall Gathering 2007

Qualifying for the Work

JJ: I am going to start out by reading a statement where the Labors of Hercules is introduced here. The words are very profound so rather than paraphrase them I am going to actually read them word for word.

The Presiding One looked forth upon the sons of men, who are the Sons of God. He saw their light and where they stood upon the Way which leads back to the Heart of God. The Way sweeps in a circle through the twelve great Gates, and, cycle after cycle, the Gates are opened and the Gates are shut. The Sons of God, who are the sons of men, march on.

Dim is the light at first. Selfish the trend of human aspiration, and dark the deeds resultant. Slowly men learn and, in learning, pass between the pillars of the Gates time and again. Dull is the understanding but in the Halls of Discipline, found in each section of the circle’s cosmic sweep, the truth is slowly grasped; the needed lesson learnt; the nature purified and taught until the Cross is seen – that fixed and waiting Cross which crucifies the sons of men, stretched out on the Crosses of those who serve and save.

From out the mass of men, one man stood forth in ancient days and caught the great presiding Elder’s watching eye, he who eternally presides within the Council Chamber of the Lord. He turned to one who stood, close at his hand, and said: “Who is that soul upon the Way of life, whose light can now be dimly seen?”

Quickly the answer came: “That is the soul who, on the Way of life, experiences and seeks the clear light which shines from the High Place.”

Let him proceed upon his way, but watch his steps.”

The swiftly passing aeons ran their course. The great wheel turned and, turning, brought the seeking soul upon the Way. Later, there came a day when the Presiding One, within the Council Chamber of the Lord, again drew to the circle of his radiant life the seeking soul.

Whose is this soul upon the Way of high endeavor whose radiance dimly shineth forth?” Came the reply: “A soul who seeks the light of understanding, a struggling soul.”

Tell him from me to return the other way and then to travel round the circle. Then will he find the object of his search.

JJ: In other words, he is saying that we all go clockwise around the Zodiac and the presiding one says, tell him to turn the other way and go on the path least traveled by and then he will find the object of his search.

Continuing with the reading of the page:

Watch o’er his steps and, when he has an understanding heart, an eager mind and skillful hand, bring him to me.”

Again the centuries passed. The great wheel turned and turning, carried all the sons of men, who are the Sons of God upon their way. And as these centuries passed, a group of men emerged who slowly turned the other way. They found the Way. They passed the Gates and struggled towards the mountain top, and towards the place of death and sacrifice. The watching Teacher saw a man emerge from out this crowd, mount the fixed Cross, demanding deeds to do, service to render unto God and man, and willingness to travel the Way to God. He stood before the great Presiding One who works within the Council Chamber of the Lord and heard a word go forth:

“Obey the Teacher on the Way. Prepare for the last tests. Pass through each Gate and in the sphere which they reveal and guard, perform the labor which befits their sphere. Learn thus the lesson and begin with love to serve the men of earth.” Then to the Teacher went the final word: “Prepare the candidate. Give him his labors to perform and place his name upon the tablets of the living Way.”

JJ: Djwhal Khul wrote those words and He gave the interpretations to the first six of the labors and then Alice A. Bailey died before they were able to complete the last six. So “The Labors of Hercules’ is incomplete. Students of Alice A. Bailey finished them up but they were not nearly as good with the interpretation, but the introduction of each one was written by DK I believe through Alice A. Bailey.

Audience: Why didn’t they run it through AAB’s husband?

JJ: Because Alice A. Bailey had a mind that was trained for mental telepathy in past lives and not everybody is capable of receiving mental telepathy.

Audience: Would it have been wrong in a karmic sense if he just materialized it?

JJ: Well to begin with DK said that He was not going to speak again until 2025. Alice A. Bailey has been specifically trained in past lives for the mission she had at this time and she was sensitive to His mind. DK mentioned that she was a rare disciple who was capable of doing this type of work and not too many people are capable of accurately transcribing from the mind of a Master according to DK.

Audience: That is kind of a sexist remark. Why did the communication have to be through a female instead of her husband? I think that is what everybody in this room is wondering.

JJ: Females are better at receiving than males.

Audience: I think she was saying that – why didn’t her husband finish the work.

JJ: Females are usually used for this type of work because the female energy is more receiving and male energy is more sending so in this type of work you have a male energy doing the sending and a female energy doing the receiving. Every once in a while a male will be receiving and a female will be sending but the line of least resistance in this way is for the females to be receiving. You notice that another great receiver was Madam Blavatsky and she was in the female gender. Now in her past life she was Count Cagliostro and as a male she completely bungled her job. She went away from what she was supposed to do and maybe that is why the Masters had her put in a female body in her next life so she could be a better receiver.

In her life before that she had a mission to do and she did not do it properly because she did not receive properly as a man so this may have been why she had been born as the female Madame Blavatsky. It was probably a sacrifice too because she was not a very attractive female. If you look at my web page on this you’ll see that I believe John F. Kennedy was the reincarnation of Madame Blavatsky and when you look at their pictures their faces are very similar but JFK is a very handsome guy. But when you place JFK’s face on Madame Blavatsky it does not look so great as a female.  It is interesting to think about.

So Hercules is given these great labors to do and as he begins them the gods all gather together to kind of give him a bit of assistance and first of all they ask him about his life and he tells them his name is Hercules. Does anyone know what the name Hercules means?

Audience: The glory of one?

JJ: It is said to mean, “Hera’s rare Glory.” Hera means the soul, so the Glory of the Soul is what the name Hercules means. Remember in ancient times they gave the person the name that signifies what he is to become. So the destiny of Hercules the disciple was to show humanity what the power of the soul, can do.

In each age there is a Herculean person that comes forth to show the possibilities of men. In a forgotten age there was a real Hercules. We do not have an actual historical record and much of what is written here is symbolic. Whether or not he did all twelve labors in one life we do not know but according to DK there was an actual disciple named Hercules and his mission was to reveal the ideal disciple.

Then we have other great leaders in history like Krishna, Buddha, The Christ, and Moses. Moses was like the Avatar of the age of Aries, Jesus was the Avatar of the age of Pisces and so on. Hercules was the Avatar of an age past.

So they quiz him about himself and they find out what his name means and he explains that he had a divine father – he is half man and half god, so he symbolizes humanity. All of us are part human and part god. The trouble with us is that we only see our human side not our God side.

Hercules’ mission was to demonstrate that we have both. We are human and we make mistakes, but we also have God in us and using the God principle, great deeds can be done.

Hercules says when he was an infant he was actually a twin but he killed his twin brother. What this symbolizes is that he had a dual nature, the soul and the personality. He subdued his personality and he focused his concentration on the soul.

Next we are also told that he killed two serpents. Now there are three serpents all together. One is called the serpent of matter; the second is called the serpent of illusion and the third is called the serpent of wisdom. He killed two of them – the serpent of matter and the serpent of illusion which; keeps us from being true disciples, but he kept the serpent of wisdom.

He also says he is accomplished in all fields. He says:

“I am proficient, I am well taught, well trained, well guided and well known. All books I know, all arts and sciences as well, the labors of the open field are known to me. Besides the skill of those who can afford to travel to know men I know myself as one who thinks, feels and lives.”

As Hercules grew up we are told that great care was given to his education, he was trained in all the accomplishments and every faculty that he had was developed and organized. In other words, this is one of the qualities that a disciple must accumulate before he can undergo the labor of Hercules. He develops all his skills and he is very well rounded, he says he knows science, math, he has worked in the fields, well educated and he is a tool in the hands of the masters that can be of use.

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Solving the Contradiction

Aug 17, 2016

Solving the Contradiction

Patrick asked me to comment on an inconsistency in the writings of DK that I have worked out. Most of the inconsistencies with himself have been subtle and open to interpretation. However, he had a few seeming inconstancies with physical reality as we know it. I’ll briefly comment on one of them.

Consider this controversial statement from initiation, human and Solar:

“As Apollonius of Tyana, He (Jesus) took the fifth initiation and became a Master of the Wisdom.”

This is perplexing since his main biographer, Philostratus, tells us that he was born in 3 BC and died 97 AD at 100 years of age.

If we go by orthodox records it appears that both Jesus and Apollonius were contemporaries, born around the same time. It seems unreasonable to believe that Jesus and Apollonius are the same person when history describes them as two separate people living during the same time period.

So, what is the answer? There are a number of possibilities. Here are a few.

(1) Reliable records, accepted by scholars, proving the precise birthdate of either man does not exist. Some claim that Apollonius was born later than the date set by Philostratus while other say that Jesus was born much earlier than the orthodox date. Some including Blavatsky places the birth of Jesus over 100 years earlier than orthodoxy: She wrote this in a dialogue with the Abbe Roca, a French Canon of the Roman Catholic Church:

“The legend of which I speak is founded….on the existence of a personage called Jehoshua (from which Jesus has been made) born at Lüd or Lydda about 120 years before the modern era.”

If the birthdate of either of the two men was significantly off then that could solve the conundrum.

It could, but I think the evidence is pretty overwhelming that the story of Jesus is roughly true as written. You’d have to fool people on so many levels to convince them that some guy born a century earlier was the real Jesus. It would be like saying that the real George Washington was born in Spain in the 1630 and did a great work there and his work in America is a fable.

In addition to this Alice A. Bailey and Djwhal Khul seem to accept the gospel story fairly close to as it is written.

What is puzzling is that DK threw out this apparent contradiction to history without making an comment on it and that in the decades to come AAB did not seek for clarification.

(2) The solution most widely accepted by Bailey students is that after the crucifixion Jesus overshadowed Apollonius and thus took the fifth initiation using his body.

If this is what happened then this could explain the contradiction, but this explanation is unlikely.

Why?

Because during his life the disciple Jesus had only attained to the fourth initiation and was not advanced enough to overshadow a disciple as did Christ, who was the equivalent of a sixth degree initiate. I believe that a Master has to be a sixth degree or higher to accomplish this type of overshadowing. You’ll note that D K, a fifth degree initiate, did not overshadow Alice A. Bailey but used mental telepathy to accomplish the work.

(3) Another possibility is that the Higher Self of Jesus projected, not one reflection, but two, into two separate physical bodies. Perhaps this was done with the idea that if one did not succeed in the mission that the other one would.

To me this is the most plausible explanation so far.

There is one more possibility to which I am partial.

(4) Jesus became Apollonius. This is one you have probably not heard before and it goes like this.

Jesus appeared to and worked with the disciples for at least 40 days after his resurrection. After a tremendous word of mouth the various Jewish and Roman authorities became extremely alarmed and made an all-out effort to capture Jesus and make sure he was really dead this time. They would cut off his head and burn the body.

Contrary to popular belief Jesus was not all-powerful and did not have an immortal body. Instead, his body was rejuvenated and restored to good physical condition. Even though he could escape if they placed him in jail, if they caught him off guard and immediately executed him, his body could be destroyed. He thus concluded that his effective work with the disciples had come to an end.

He then had a grand idea to solve the problem. Shortly before his mission to Israel he had met Apollonius and was amazed at how similar in appearance the two were. Apollonius was fed up with the people in the West and told Jesus he was going to the Far East and possibly settle down there.

Jesus then decided to assume the identity of Apollonius and preach his gospel using this new identity. After telling only a few trusted disciples about the plan he traveled a safe distance from Jerusalem and began his work with the new identity and, as Apollonius, did a work that earned him he fifth initiation and became a Master of Wisdom.

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Keys Writings 2013, Part 16

This entry is part 18 of 25 in the series 2013

June 7, 2013

A Familiar Voice

Alex writes:

Initiate wrote recently:

————- quote ————-

i) The sixty billion human souls currently bound to Terra (with about seven billion in present-day incarnation), incarnate in various cycles according to astrological age (we are now in that of Aquarius), Karma (Causality), suitability of the social and biological environment, etc. At present, we are experiencing a steady influx of more evolved souls incarnating in less-developed nations/continents (e.g. Asia, Africa), whilst simultaneously experiencing less evolved souls incarnating in more developed nations/continents (e.g. USA, Europe). If you really, desperately must know WHY, please ask another time, out of respect for other users. ————- end quote ——

I am not going to ask him, because he is overloaded with questions, but does anyone here know “WHY”?

I thought that the more evolved do not want to incarnate any more on the Earth, that is why spirituality is going down.

JJ

The more evolved want to serve where there is the greatest opportunity to move evolution forward. Of course, they have their personal interests and priorities, which are a factor but overall they want to place themselves in positions where they can accomplish something of worth that will also produce a feeling of satisfaction and joy to themselves.

Highly evolved souls have no problem incarnating on the earth so long as they feel that they can accomplish something of worth.

Are the more highly evolved now incarnating into the third world countries? The answer is this. Some third world countries are developing more opportunities and the developed countries are heading toward more restriction and less freedom. This causes some initiates to take a good look at where some third world countries will be headed for the next generation and incarnate where there seems to be opportunity – and that is the principle. The highly evolved have greater power of decision and will incarnate where lies the greatest opportunity for them.

Even so, there are third world countries most will avoid like the plague.

Many initiates still see opportunity in the developed countries and we will continue to see advanced souls surface in them, but some developing countries will manifest some highly intelligent souls in the coming generation.

By the way, I saw your question to Initiate and it was a good one. You asked about other teachers he agreed with. That answer ought to be interesting.

I caught up on his recent posts and will say he is a lot more intelligent than most of the would-be messiahs and prophets out there. He gives out a lot of data that may or may not be correct but I do not see a lot of weight given to the wisdom aspect that deals with principles.

For instance, he says there are 91 dimensions. This is a figure I haven’t seen before and he made no appeal to the Law of Correspondences to verify it. The number is 13 x 7 which he could have expounded upon.

To his credit he doesn’t present himself as the one and only last chance for mankind and doesn’t condemn those who do not accept him.

He does preset himself as an initiate who is fairly well placed in the Brotherhood of Light so he does start out with some claim to unearned authority which may or may nor evolve to earned authority.

My wife and I visited a science expo in Vancouver back in 1989 and they demonstrated patterns created by sound using a similar device. I was really impressed and it made me think of the Hindu teaching that the whole universe was created by one sound that is made by the breath of God.

Dan:

> I find I am particularly drawn to this “type” of writer – very knowledgeable and obviously well-educated but not pseudo-intellectual, obviously highly intelligent, VERY articulate and clearly makes his points.

JJ

Yes, the guy is obviously highly self educated and has done a lot of thinking. I always appreciate anyone who has put a lot of thought into their words. I’m curious as to how he comes up with some of his data such as the 91 dimensions or that dark brothers are set back 130 billion years.

I have a feeling that this is not the guy’s first attempt at teaching and probably has other things existing on the web.

It would be an interesting endeavor to find them. One could search for some key words he uses such as:

Dear Reader (a phrase I personally do not like)

Dark Brotherhood

Terra

Blavatsky

I’m sure there are others.

I’m sure there are others.

 

June 9, 2013

Oliver Cowdery

JJ wrote:

Oliver Cowdery then sought for a leadership position since he was the “Second Elder.”

John C replied:

FALSE. Where is your evidence?

JJ

Actually there is quite a bit of evidence. I had previously read before that since Oliver was the Second Elder and the First Elder (Joseph) was dead that he now considered himself the highest authority and felt a duty to set the church in order.

Phillip R. Legg, a biographer of Oliver wrote quite a bit about Oliver’s hints that he should seek leadership to set the church right. He thought that he had the highest keys and Brigham did not. In addition he thought polygamy was a grave error that needed to be set straight. Here was Legg’s conclusion;

Richards indicated that Oliver had offered his “testimony in his personal experience of many things which no other living person could bear.” Indeed, Oliver knew what no other living person knew. He had been with Joseph from the beginning and had shared experiences with Joseph which no one else shared. Oliver felt he was the one with the authority and the testimony which entitled him to be the head of the church.

A move to join the Brigham Young group was not an endorsement of the practices of the membership, particularly regarding such doctrines as plural marraiage. His decision was not a validation of Brigham’s authority. After all, he believed that he was the only one with “real” authority, and his baptism would help him to assume the leadership of the church and set it right. His dream would never be realized, and, possibly, he sensed his impending death.

Oliver Cowdery: the elusive second elder of the restoration / by Phillip R. Legg. 1989

 

June 9, 2013

The Still Small Voice

Larry W writes:

Question: if our own self, subconscious self or higher self (two different things) steps in, do we label that as 1)soul contact, 2)Higher Self, 3)Holy Ghost, 4)guardian angel, 5)still small voice, 6)Solar Angel, 7)other? Something helped John out. We’ve all experienced similar help. It seems to me such help CAN come from a VERIETY OF SOURCES.

JJ

Think of all the things you bought this last month. They came from a variety of sources but there was one medium that allowed you to make the transactions that gave you power to possess them. That medium was money.

Even so it is with soul contact. This allows us to contact the point which is neither matter or spirit, neither wet nor dry, where magic can be wrought. By raising our consciousness and tapping into the point of interplay a door becomes open so many differing magical things can happen such as:

(1) Contact with the Higher Self

(2) Sensing the Holy Spirit

(3) Tuning into the presence of angels and discarnate entities of high vibration.

(4) Hearing the still small voice

(5) Feeling the presence of your Solar Angel

(6) Inspiration and revelation.

(7) Sensing true spiritual love

(8) Tuning into the Oneness Principle. And more.

By the way Dan, I read your Questions to Initiate. That is quite a list. After reading them I’ll bet he wonders, “Who is this guy?”

I’m glad you don’t throw that many in my direction all at one time, but I must say, the guy asked for it.

 

June 9, 2013

A Familiar Voice

Dan,

I was glad to see that Initiate complimented you on your questions rather than chastise you as he has been in a rather attack mode lately.

If he continues with this teaching he’ll have to eventually move to a private forum, as we have, where he can moderate the group so as to avoid distracting comments. Right now he feels that over half of the replies are irritating or counterproductive – or seek to take him off topic.

He attacks those who are irritating him by stating that he was like they are now once upon a time “about 1 hundred thousand incarnations ago.” I’ve never heard anyone state that it takes 100,000 incarnations to move from an intelligent smart aleck to an initiate. That would be pretty slow progression if true. Fortunately, it is not. Some have done it in one lifetime.

It is interesting that one of his comments follows Crowley’s philosophy:

“One of the divine cosmic laws are as follows: Do what thou wilt, for all to do as they will!”

This statement makes for good discussion for the group. Is it true? Why or why not?

If you ask any more questions, here are suggestions.

How many earth beings are in your order? What percentage or number are incarnated in the physical human kingdom and how many in the non dense physical realms? (It would raise a red flag if he thinks he is the only one incarnated.)

What kind of process did you go through to join your order of brotherhood? Ask if you can apply.

I think you may be on to something. He seems to use a lot of Laurency’s terminology.

The quote “Do what thou wilt” is found here:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread951125/pg38

It’s in the post entitled:

My dear Brothers at ATS, PART I:

 

June 10, 2013

Do What Thou Wilt

The question:

It is interesting that one of his (Initiate’s) comments follows Crowley’s philosophy: “One of the divine cosmic laws are as follows: Do what thou wilt, for all to do as they will!” This statement makes for good discussion for the group. Is it true? Why or why not?

Judy made a good point in contrasting known writings of light with Crowley’s “Do what thou wilt.” She says:

Authentic Brotherhood adages:

Great Invocation:

From the centre where the Will of God is known

Let purpose guide the little wills of men-

The purpose which the Masters know and serve.

The Lord’s Prayer:

Thy will be done in earth,

As it is in heaven.

It is interesting that Initiate was mercilessly accused of plagiarizing Crowley when his quote was actually worded a little differently. Crowley’s wording was: “Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.”

It’s kind of silly to accuse anyone of plagiarism when he quotes a famous phrase of which most know the source. For instance, if I say “the truth shall make you free” most will realize I am not claiming to be the first to state it.

He made the odd statement that he gave out the phrase for a trap to his adversaries. First, one would not expect a brother of light to go about setting traps for anyone except perhaps in extreme circumstances of real conflict.

Secondly, it was kind of difficult to see exactly what the trap was about. My best guess is that he made it close to the Crowley quote so he would be falsely accused of quoting Crowley. Then he can say, “You are wrong sir. I am saying something entirely different than Crowley.”

Sounds like an ineffective trap.

In any case, he did say that his statement had an entirely different meaning from Crowley’s. That said let us examine the statement:

“Do what thou wilt, for all to do as they will!”

It is written so it sounds like people as a whole will be free to do as they will if individuals first follow their own wills.

Unfortunately, this is not true. If the pervert desires to rape a woman then obviously doing what he wills does not lead to the victim doing what she wills for she had no desire to be raped.

If the burglar follows his will to steal your big screen TV then you cannot follow your will to possess it and watch it.

Obviously, this is a deeply flawed statement. He said he was going to explain it shortly, but there was so much conflict on the site that the thread was shut down. It will be interesting to see if the guy surfaces again.

I would guess that he was going to tell us that if individuals are free to do their wills then the group is also free. That is only true though if the will of the individual is in alignment with higher purpose. Those who are not in alignment with higher purpose frustrate the freedom of the whole rather than enhancing it.

There is an interesting teaching by Joseph Smith in this direction. He taught that there were three kingdoms of glory available in the afterlife. The highest, the celestial was likened to the sun. The next, the terrestrial had a glory like the moon and the lowest, the telestial was much dimmer like the stars and in this kingdom each person differed in glory like the stars. What determines which glory we can abide is the law that we are willing to be subject to. To enter the highest glory one must be subject to the celestial laws.

All kingdoms of glory and made so by law and if one cannot abide by law but becomes a law unto himself then he will enter a fourth kingdom that has no glory but is a kingdom of darkness.

Therefore, if a person strictly follows the adage “do what thou wilt” he will eventually wind up in the place portrayed by scripture as “outer darkness.”

Indeed all creation is created by and functions by law. If nature did not follow the laws of gravity, inertia, repulsion, attraction etc then randomness would be everywhere, hence the darkness.

Alex:

To me this phrase “Do what thou wilt, for all to do as they will!” means:

“Feel free to exercise your free agency, but in such way so that all the others

could excercise their free agency too”.

or:

“Feel free to exercise your free agency, to allow all the others excercise their

free agency too”.

I think “for” means “for the purpose of”, “in order to”. I do not think “for”

means “because”. However, my English is a second language.

In such interpretation, if a rapist desires a woman (free will of a rapist), but

the woman says “Stop it!”, the rapist should stop in order to allow the woman to

exercise her free will too.

If this “divine law” is observed, there simply will be no place for rape. (The

man can go to a brothel.)

JJ

I would suppose that was what Initiate was trying to convey but the wording is extremely unclear and confusing if that is the case. If that was the message the wording should have been something like this:

Do what thou wilt when it enhances the will and freedom of the whole. Otherwise, align your will with the highest known good and execute.

 

June 12, 2013

Women of Mormondom Question

Larry Woods asks some questions:

First, he wants to know if a dispensation as taught by Mormon doctrine is the same as an age.

A dispensation in Mormon doctrine is not exactly the same thing. An astrological age is around 2160 years but there have been seven dispensations according to Mormon doctrine in the past 6000 years making an average dispensation to be less than a thousand years.

Larry:

Do you believe that every Age has its Christ?

JJ

Every age has at least one messiah figure but Jesus was unique in that the entity in him was more pure, highly evolved and unrestricted than had ever made an appearance on the earth.

Let us note the language of the angel right in the King James Version: “For unto you is born this day in the city of David A Saviour, which is Christ (anointed) the Lord.” Luke 2:11

He was called “a” savior because he was not the only one. The Hebrew for this word is YASHA and numerous individuals in the old testament were called by this title including David, Samson, Moses, and others.

Then we have the scripture: “And SAVIOURS (YASHA) shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be the Lord’s.” Obadiah verse 21.

Obviously, there will be many saviors or Christs to come.

Even so, there is only one who has the office of the Christ and that is the master upon whom we wait.

Larry:

So is a Christ of an Age the same as the Avatar of that Age?

JJ

There are usually a number of avatars within an age and these indeed have the Christ consciousness, but there is only one who has the office of the Christ.

Larry:

Can you name other Christs of past dispensations/Ages?

JJ

Since the last Adam there has only been one entity holding the office of the Christ. In a thousand years or so he is scheduled to be replace by the master KH while he moves on to higher work.

There have been numerous avatars who many see as Christ figures. Some in recorded history are Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, Leonardo DaVinci, Roger Bacon, Isaac Newton, Einstein, Pythagoras, Socrates, Confucius, Buddha and others.

Larry:

What can you tell us about the Christ or Avatar of Aquarius?

JJ

The Christ who holds the office will come again but it is not revealed exactly how this will come about. There will be definite overshadowings but it is a mystery whether he will come in a body of his own.

Larry:

You teach in The Immortal and subsequently that Christ can overshadow a person (with permission). So is that person “Christed”?

JJ

A person can attain the Christ consciousness and work through the Oneness Principle without being overshadowed. Overshadowing occurs when a usable vessel is available that needs help to accomplish a mission of light.

Larry

Or must such a person also be designated by Sanat as head of that dispensation/Age to qualify as the Christ/Avatar of that Age?

JJ

It’s not so much that people are designated to be avatars but that an evolved soul sees the need for work to be done and volunteers to do it. If he has the qualities necessary he is supported by the Hierarchy.

Larry:

Mormons teach that JS was given dominion over this Age (dispensation) as its main teacher and leader. Do you agree?

JJ

He will have a part. Exactly what that is, only time will tell.

Larry

Does this mean JS and his future incarnations will fill the roll of Christ or Avatar for the Age of Aquarius?

JJ

The Christ is the main avatar of the Age of Aquarius, at least the first half. He will be here either physically or through the overshadowing of disciples.

 

June 13, 2013

Crowleyism

I recently finished Crowley’s lengthy autobiography. It was a lot to plow through but I thought I’d give the guy a fair shot.

By the way, Ruth asked about me analyzing his handwriting. I have already done so here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Keysters/message/63691

I was curious a to what kind of experiences he had with his quest for magic but he gave few details of magical experiences or his revelations. He did give a lot of details about the normal aspects of his life. He seemed to be a Hemingway style of character always seeking for adventure in mountain climbing, big game hunting and on a quest for love and pleasure.

He seemed to present himself as more of a rebel for rebel’s sake rather than for the sake of evil desire.

He was raised in strict Christian tradition by his father. Many independent souls rebel against such painful strictness that involve beatings and strong discipline. Crowley wrote:

“Indeed, my falling away from grace was not occasioned by any intellectual qualms; I accepted the theology of the Plymouth Brethren. In fact, I could hardly conceive of the existence of people who might doubt it. I simply went over to Satan’s side; and to this hour I cannot tell why.

“But I found myself as passionately eager to serve my new master (Satan) as I had been to serve the old (God). I was anxious to distinguish myself by committing sin. Here again my attitude was extraordinarily subtle. It never occurred to me to steal or in any other way to infringe the decalogue. Such conduct would have been petty and contemptible. I wanted a supreme spiritual sin; and I had not the smallest idea how to set about it. There was a good deal of morbid curiosity among the saints about “the sin against the Holy Ghost” which “could never be forgiven”. Nobody knew what it was. It was even considered rather blasphemous to offer any very positive conjecture on the point. The idea seems to have been that it was something like an ill-natured practical joke on the part of Jesus. This mysterious offence which could never be forgiven might be inadvertently committed by the greatest saint alive, with the result that he would be bowled out at the very gate of glory. Here was another impossibility to catch my youthful fancy; I must find out what that sin was and do it very thoroughly.”

I found it amusing that he actually sought out the sin against the Holy Ghost.

Here’s another incident from his youth:

“There is one amazing incident; at the age of fourteen as near as I can remember. I must premise that I have always been exceptionally tenderhearted, except to tyrants, for whom I think no tortures bad enough. In particular, I am uniformly kind to animals; no question of cruelty or sadism arises in the incident which I am about to narrate.

“I had been told “A cat has nine lives.” I deduced that it must be practically impossible to kill a cat. As usual, I became full of ambition to perform the feat. (Observe that I took my information unquestioningly au pied de la lettre.) Perhaps through some analogy with the story of Hercules and the hydra, I got it into my head that the nine lives of the cat must be taken more or less simultaneously. I therefore caught a cat, and having administered a large dose of arsenic I chloroformed it, hanged it above the gas jet, stabbed it, cut its throat, smashed its skull and, when it had been pretty thoroughly burnt, drowned it and threw it out of the window that the fall might remove the ninth life. In fact, the operation was successful; I had killed the cat. I remember that all the time I was genuinely sorry for the animal; I simply forced myself to carry out the experiment in the interest of pure science.”

Despite these and other oddities such as animal sacrifice, he presented himself as an honorable man I many circumstances, anti abortion and even speaks warmingly of the Holy Ghost in his life at times.

He comes across as a man who is willing to try anything for the experience and seeks for the highest pleasures that life has to offer.

I’m sure he was used as a pawn for the dark brothers at times but not sure he made the final decision that takes one on the left hand path.

Concerning the accusation that he could have been Jack the Ripper he consider it ludicrous. However, he seemed to have an insight into him almost as if he knew who he was. He wrote:

“At this time London was agog with the exploits of Jack the Ripper. One theory of the motive of the murderer was that he was performing an Operation to obtain the Supreme Black Magical Power. The seven women had to be killed so that their seven bodies formed a “Calvary cross of seven points” with its head to the west. The theory was that after killing the third or the fourth, I forget which, the murderer acquired the power of invisibility, and this was confirmed by the fact that in one case a policeman heard the shrieks of the dying woman and reached her before life was extinct, yet she lay in a cul-de-sac, with no possible exit save to the street; and the policeman saw no signs of the assassin, thought he was patrolling outside, expressly on the lookout.”

Here is one of the best quotes from the book:

“I am afraid that the root of the evil lies in the psychological fact that men proclaim the principles of freedom only when they are suffering from oppression. No sooner do they become free and prosperous than they begin to perceive the duties of discipline.”

 

June 14, 2013

Crowleyism Continued

Judes

His writings and his whole energy-blueprint is spiritually immature and

childish.

Some traumatic thing could have happened to him in his youth or early

adolescence to keep him emotionally rebellious early and mentally deranged.

JJ

You may be right. Not only was his dad strict but here’s what he had to endure in school. No wonder he rebelled against regular Christianity.

I had thus no difficulty at school as far as lessons were concerned, but in my three years at Champney’s I had no lack of trouble; the nature of this can only be understood if I adduce a few facts to indicate the atmosphere. I used to tell people about my school life and met with such consistent incredulity that I made a little collection of incidents in the preface to my The World’s Tragedy. I quote the passage as it stands.

A Boyhood in Hell

The Revd. H. d’Arcy Champney, M.A. Of Corpus Christi College, Cambridge, had come out of sect.

He had voted at the parliamentary elections by crossing out the names of the candidates and writing, “I vote for King Jesus.”

He had started a school for the sons of Brethren at 51 Bateman Street, Cambridge. May God bite into the bones of men the pain of that hell on earth (I have prayed often) that by them it may be sowed with salt, accursed for ever! May the maiden that passes it be barren and the pregnant woman that beholdeth it abort! May the birds of the air refuse to fly over it! May it stand as a curse, as a fear, as an hate, among men! May the wicked dwell therein! May the light of the sun be withheld therefrom and the light of the moon not lighten it! May it become the home of the shells of the dead and may the demons of the pit inhabit it! May it be accursed, accursed — accursed for ever and ever!

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And still, standing as I stand in the prime of early manhood, free from all the fetters of the body and the mind, do I curse the memory thereof unto the ages.

It was a good enough school from the point of view of examiners, I dare say. Morally and physically, it was an engine of destruction and corruption. I am just going to put down a few facts haphazard as they come to my memory; you may form your own judgment.

1. We were allowed to play cricket, but not to score runs, lest it should excite the vice of “emulation”.

2. Champeny told me, a child of not yet twelve years old, that he had never consummated his marriage. (Only the very acute verbal memory which I possess enabled me years after to recall and interpret his meaning. He used a coarser phrase.)

3. We were told that “the Lord had a special care of the school and brought to light that which was done in darkness,” etc., etc. Ad nauseam. “The instrument was on this occasion so-and-so, who had nobly come forward,” etc., etc. In other words, hypocrisy and sneaking were the only virtues.

Naturally, one of several boys who might be involved in the same offence would take fright and save his skin by sneaking. The informer was always believed implicitly, as against probability, or even possibility, with complete disregard of the testimony of other and independent witnesses.

For instance, a boy named Glascott, with insane taint, told Mr. Champney that he had visited me (twelve years old) at my mother’s house during the holidays — true so far, he had — and found me lying drunk at the bottom of the stairs. My mother was never asked about this; nor was I told of it. I was put into “Coventry”, i.e. no master nor boy might speak to me, or I to them. I was fed on bread and water; during play hours I worked in the schoolroom; during work hours I walked solitary round and round the playground. I was expected to “confess” the crime of which I was not only innocent, but unaccused.

This punishment, which I believe criminal authorities would consider severe on a poisoner, went on for a term and a half. I was, at last, threatened with expulsion for my refusal to “confess”, and so dreadful a picture of the horrors of expulsion did they paint me — the guilty wretch, shunned by his fellows, slinks on through life to a dishonoured grave, etc. — that I actually chose to endure my tortures and to thank my oppressor.

Physically, I broke down. The strain and the misery affected my kidneys; and I had to leave school altogether for two years. I should add in fairness that there were other accusations against me, though, as you shall hear, almost equally silly.

I learnt at last, through the intervention of my uncle, in a lucid interval, what I was supposed to have done. I was said to have tried “to corrupt Chamberlain” — not our great patriotic statesman, shifty Joe — but a boy. (I was twelve years old and quite ignorant of all sexual matters till long after.) Also I had “held a mock prayer meeting”. This I remembered. I had strolled up to a group of boys in the playground, who were indeed holding one. As they saw me one said, “Brother Crowley will now lead us in prayer.” Brother Crowley was too wary and walked away. But instead of doing what a wise boy would have done: gone straight to the head and accused them of forty-six distinct unmentionable crimes, I let things slide. So, fearing that I might go, they hurried off themselves and told him how that wicked Crowley had tried to lead them away from Jesus.

Worse, I had called Page I a pharisee. That was true; I had said it. Dreadful of me! And Page I, who “walked very close to Jesus”, of course went and told.

Yes, they all walked very close to Jesus — as close as Judas did.

4. A boy named Barton was sentenced to one hundred and twenty strokes of the cane on his bare shoulders, for some petty theft of which he was presumably innocent.

Superb was the process of trial. It began by an extra long prayer time and Joshua’s account of the sin of Achan, impressively read. Next, an hour or two about the Lord’s care of the school, the way He brought sin to light. Next, when well worked up and all our nerves on the jump, who stole what? Silence. Next, the Lord’s care in providing a witness — like the witnesses against Naboth! Then the witness and his story, as smooth as a policeman’s. Next, sentence. Last, execution, with intervals of prayer!

Champney’s physique being impaired, one may suppose by his excessive devotion to Jesus, he arranged to give sixty strokes one day and sixty the next.

My memory fails — perhaps Barton will one day oblige with his reminiscences — but I fancy the first day came so near to killing him that he escaped the second.

I remember one licking I got — on the legs, because flogging the buttocks excites the victim’s sensuality! — fifteen minutes prayer, fifteen strokes of the cane, fifteen minutes more prayer, fifteen more strokes — and more prayer to top it!

5. On Sunday the day was devoted to “religion”. Morning prayers and sermon (about forty-five minutes). Morning “meeting” (one and a half to two hours). Open-air preaching on Parker’s Piece1 (say one hour). Bible reading and learning by heart. Reading of the few books “sanctioned for Sunday” (say two hours). Prayer meeting (called voluntary, but to stay away meant that some sneak in the school would accuse you of something next day) (say one hour). Evening prayer and sermon (say thirty minutes). Preaching of the gospel in the meetingroom (one and a half hours). Ditto on Parker’s Piece (say one hour). Prayer before retiring (say half an hour).

I might go on for a long while, but I will not. I hope there are some people in the world happy enough to think that I am lying, or at least exaggerating. But I pledge my word to the literal truth of all I have said, and there are plenty of witnesses alive to confirm me, or to refute me. I have given throughout the actual names, addresses and other details.

Ruth:

I didn’t grow up in surroundings like that. All I wanted to do was find the

Truth, although I did rebel a lot over the years, I never intentionally hurt

animals, because I loved animals and related to their love more than humans when

I was growing up.

So in your honest opinion was Crowley someone like HPB who had reincarnated and

stuffed up in that lifetime (as an old soul on the path of Discipleship etc),

like HPB did when she reincarnated as Count Caglistrio?

Oh and was Abraham Lincoln a reincarnated Jesus or someone close to him?

JJ

Yeah, Crowley tortured a cat which was cruel but had nothing to do with his search for the sin against the Holy Ghost. I had friends when at that age also did terrible things to cats, other animals and insects but they mellowed out when they matured.

I do not think the Hierarchy’s plan depended on him as it was Cagliostro at that time. HPB appeals to a lot higher mental level than does Crowley who attracts people who want instant magical results for themselves.

I don’t see Abraham Lincoln as Jesus but believe he was a disciple of the Christ for a number of lives.

 

June 14, 2013

The Initiate

There are a number of Melchizedek orders. Here’s a couple from Google.

http://www.melchizedekusa.com/order_of_melchizedek.htm

http://www.melchizedeklearning.com/

http://www.theoracleinstitute.org/the-order-of-melchizedek

http://www.melchizedekacademy.com/

http://www.dralimelbey.com/indigenous-cosmic-golden-re-ray-order-of-melchizedek.html

On the other hand, I believe there is a secret one without an internet

presence but have never sought out secret societies. I would say there

is a high probability he follows Laurency quite closely.

JJ

 

June 15, 2013

Alcohol & Coffee

Here’s two interesting studies. Coffee can make you live longer and alcohol can make you smarter. Who knew?

http://www.creators.com/health/david-lipschitz-lifelong-health/drinking-more-coffee-can-extend-life-who-knew.html

http://www.policymic.com/articles/6881/study-alcohol-makes-you-smarter

 

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