1999 - WEEK 42

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-18/7670
From: Laura
Subject: Re: Comments
"Next Laura asks if the Christ is on the earth now in a physical body?"
"Yes He is. He and other Masters reside in a place hidden from public knowledge and has 
worked with humanity over the past two thousand years. He is linked to the Ancient of Days and 
through that link has a feel for what is going on throughout the entire planet. He does some of His 
work in the same way we are attempting through the New Jerusalem meditation and some of you 
will meet Him there before you meet him here."
"When and if the Christ comes in a physical body as well as the overshadowing He will 
merely reveal himself as He is now. There is not a group on the earth, however, that is ready to 
accept a regular looking human who is introduced as the second coming of Christ. That is part of 
our purpose - to prepare such a group."
So in other words, Christ is already here in the form he wishes to be seen in and will be seen 
in the second coming. Once the molecule is strongly united, the Christ will reveal (him?)self.
Is the Christ in his current form divinely possessed, or just a Master in his own right, waiting 
for the 'overshadowing', as you call it? Is what we are working for - our ultimate short-term goal - 
the divine possession or overshadowing of the Christ?
"The thing to remember about the Song is the preservation of its meaning. Other languages 
may give some of the words a different twist, but the basic message and meaning of the Song 
can be fairly exactly preserved."
Okay, that makes sense. I was just concerned because I know that many on the list are 
really into the whole DO NOT CHANGE THE WORDING OF THE SONG kinda thing, and I didn't 
know how that would apply to another language. If I can get a hold of a friend of mine in 
Columbia, I'll see if he'd be willing to translate it into Spanish for the rest of us. I've received an 
email from (Anni, I think?? I'm sorry.. I have forgotten who sent it to me) a member of the list, 
expressing their interest in translating the song into their native language, Danish.
Oohhhh.. Danish.. boy that sounds good. Low carb diets are no fun.
But back to the topic, I still think that the English version of the song, if at all possible, should 
not be changed, because as soon as the first little revision to an 'and' or an 'in' here and there 
happens, then the larger words may start shifting and changing and finally the song as a whole is 
changed altogether. Not a good thing :)
Laura

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-18/7671
From: Laura
Subject: Thinking Big
Okay, peeps.
I'm not sure why this list has been so quiet lately.. it seems that discussion has dropped off 
sharply over the past three weeks. I'm not pointing fingers, naming names, nor do I want to 
speculate as to why this is happening. Perhaps people are losing interest.
I'm not.
As a matter of fact, I'm thinking big, which I tend to do quite often, and I came up with a 
GREAT IDEA and I don't know why it's not being worked on yet.
I mentioned to the list a few days ago, and have had a few responses, but I'm going to post this 
officially to the entire list and will hopefully stir a few people up.
I know this list is international. We have people from all over the world on this list. This 
means that there are many languages represented on this list, and quite a few of you are fluent in 
more than English.
So...
I would like to know how many of you would volunteer your time for one or both of the 
following projects:
1. Translating the Song of the 144,000 into another language. It is important that this translation 
be as accurate and as close to the original as possible, for the spirit needs to be conveyed 
accurately.
2. And this is the big one.. translating the Immortal into another language?
The Immortal is a huge project. After all, there are two books of the Immortal! Anyone who 
took on this project would need to see it out to the finish. I can safely say that NONE of us have 
the time, energy and resources to devote every waking moment to working on this, but by golly, a 
little bit at time WILL get the job done eventually. 15 minutes.. 30 minutes.. 10 minutes a night will 
_eventually_ get the translation done.
It's a project worthy of a monk, to tell you the truth. I'd be the first in line to start translating if I 
knew how to fluently speak another language, but I'm doing my part in contacting some 
international friends of mine and asking for their assistance.
So what do you say?
By the way.. you can reply directly to the list or you can email me at runewitch@hotmail.com. 
We are looking for any and all languages (Sanskrit, Hyroglyphics, Latin and Greek may need to 
wait, though), because this word needs to be spread to the world.
I will also be posting hopefully by the end of the day a list of all the people who have 
volunteered in some way, shape, form or manner to do something involving the CWNN - Council 
With No Name. If you have something you'd like to contribute (and we can use anything), email 
me or post to the list and let us know.
So are ya going to sit and think, people, or are you going to grab hold of the reins for the ride 
of your life? :)
Laura

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-18/7672
From: "Aley"
Subject: Re: Thinking Big
You are incredible Laura, utterly incredible
Love,
Aley

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-18/7673
From: Mark D Williams
Subject: OT - Talking to God
Talking To God ---------------
A man was taking it easy, laying on the grass and looking up at the clouds. He was 
identifying shapes when he decided to talk to God.
"God", he said, "how long is a million years?"
God answered, "In my frame of reference, it's about a minute."
The man asked, "God, how much is a million dollars?"
God answered, "To me, it's a penny."
The man then asked, "God, can I have a penny?"
God answered, "In a minute."

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-18/7674
From: Brian Weis
Subject: OT - Interview with God
Interview with God
I dreamed I had an interview with God. "Come in," God said. "So, you would like to interview 
Me?" "If you have the time," I said. God smiled and said: "My time is eternity and is enough to do 
everything; what questions do you have in mind to ask me?"
"What surprises you most about mankind?"
God answered: "That they get bored of being children, are in a rush to grow up, and then 
long to be children again. That they lose their health to make money and then lose their money to 
restore their health. That by thinking anxiously about the future, they forget the present, such that 
they live neither for the present nor the future. That they live as if they will never die, and they die 
as if they had never lived..."
God's hands took mine and we were silent for while and then I asked... "As a parent, what 
are some of life's lessons you want your children to learn?"
God replied with a smile: "To learn that they cannot make anyone love them. What they can 
do is to let themselves be loved. To learn that what is most valuable is not what they have in their 
lives, but who they have in their lives. To learn that it is not good to compare themselves to 
others. All will be judged individually on their own merits, not as a group on a comparison basis! 
To learn that a rich person is not the one who has the most, but is one who needs the least.
To learn that it only takes a few seconds to open profound wounds in persons we love, and 
that it takes many years to heal them. To learn to forgive by practicing forgiveness. To learn that 
there are persons that love them dearly, but simply do not know how to express or show their 
feelings.
To learn that money can buy everything but happiness. To learn that two people can look at 
the same thing and see it totally different.
To learn that a true friend is someone who knows everything about them... and likes them 
anyway.
To learn that it is not always enough that they be forgiven by others, but that they have to 
forgive themselves.
"I sat there for awhile enjoying the moment. I thanked Him for his time and for all that He has 
done for me and my family, and He replied, "Anytime. I'm here 24 hours a day. All you have to do 
is ask for me, and I'll answer."
--Author Unknown

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-18/7675
From: "Anni West"
Subject: Re: Thinking BIG
Hi Laura and all,
Laura wrote: "I would like to know how many of you would volunteer your time for one or 
both of the following projects:
1. Translating the Song of the 144,000 into another language. It is important that this translation 
be as accurate and as close to the original as possible, for the spirit needs to be conveyed 
accurately.
2. And this is the big one.. translating the Immortal into another language?"
Anni:
I volunteer to translate the Song of the 144,000 into Danish - in fact I am almost done :-)) I 
have also started translating "The Immortal" Book 1 since many Danes do not read fluently in 
English - but you are SOOOOOO right, Laura - it is a huge project and it will take some time.
Laura:
"I will also be posting hopefully by the end of the day a list of all the people who have 
volunteered in some way, shape, form or manner to do something involving the CWNN - Council 
With No Name. If you have something you'd like to contribute (and we can use anything), email 
me or post to the list and let us know."
Anni:
A long time ago I made the promoting web page for "The Immortal" because I certainly 
would like to see as many as possible help spreading the word - if this page can be of any value 
to CWNN please let me know and I'll be happy to help. The address is: 
www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Terrace/2242
Laura:
"So are ya going to sit and think, people, or are you going to grab <hold of the reins for the 
ride of your life? :)"
Anni:
This is so true :-)) Yesterday I made the promise to translate the Song and you just will not 
believe all the things that tried to make my day lousy today:
I got up at 5.15 to take the kid's 100 newspaper out (they are away on vacation for 4 days). 
First my car broke down on the way - would definitely not start! So I ran home to get my 
daughter's moped - it would not start either (and it is quite new!), so I had to do with the bike - 
what a sight - lol!
Because of these problems I was a little bit late at work, just to find out that we had no heat, 
and it was COLD. Well, I froze through the day, got back home and guess what happened: the 
heat broke down at home too! And just to finish a great day: I got 2 letters in the snail mailbox that 
I owe the authorities some money (which is not true and tomorrow I'll have to get that straight).
Well, I laugh at it - remembering JJ's words: When you run into a lot of problems at the same 
time (often 7 I think) it just shows you that you are doing something important! So I translated the 
Song this evening - I'll meditate on the Danish words for a day or two, and then mail it to you, 
Laura.
"......Now I am just wondering what the 7.th thing might be :-))))))"
I love your fire and energy, Laura, keep it up - we are right behind you :))
Love to you all
Anni

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-18/7676
From: Marylin
Subject: Re: Thinking Big
"you are incredible Laura, utterly incredible Love, Aley"
Ditto that for me. Love, Light, Peace and Harmony Marylin

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-18/7677
From: Marylin
Subject: Re: OT - Talking to God
Mark writes: "The man then asked, "God, can I have a penny?" God answered, "In a 
minute."
Hey, Mark, what a joker you are. hee hee
Love and Light Marylin

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-18/7678
From: "GEOFFREY ELLIS"
Subject: OT Mother Teresa
Do It Anyway
Written By Mother Teresa
~~~
People are often unreasonable, illogical, and self-centred;
Forgive them anyway.
***
If you are kind, People may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives;
Be kind anyway.
***
If you are successful, you will win some false friends and some true enemies;
Succeed anyway.
***
If you are honest and frank, people may cheat you;
Be honest and frank anyway.
***
What you spend years building, someone could destroy overnight;
Build anyway.
***
If you find serenity and happiness, they may be jealous;
Be happy anyway.
***
The good you do today, people will often forget tomorrow;
Do good anyway.
***
Give the world the best you have, and it may never be enough;
Give the world the best you've got anyway.
***
You see, in the final analysis, it is between you and God;
It was never between you and them anyway.

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-18/7679
From: Jean
Subject: OT _ Prayer request...
Dear keysters, sorry I have not posted in a bit, I have been asked to run a prayer list on 
spiritweb as my friend who is the list runner is due to go in the hospital, she is having a variety of 
health problems. I do ask all of you to please pray for Tori, she is a very spiritual person and 
needs support if you would like to send her any get wells, contact me separately and I can give 
you her address. Thank you.
P.S. I thought you all would like this too it is attached
From: Alannah <angel-girl@...
The moment that captures us now is all we have for certain. We can dream endlessly about 
next week and next year, but there are no guarantees. Thus, it is important to care for ourselves 
and others in this moment. Have we expressed our love to any one of the many special people in 
our lives today? The effort is small and yet paramount in its impact on how the day unfolds for the 
givers and the receivers of caring words that inspire--words that speak of love.
Someone close needs our attention today--our encouragement, our inspiration, our 
recognition. And we need the commitment to focus outside ourselves if we are to discover the 
gifts promised us in each twenty-four-hour segment of life. It is not coincidence that we feel pulled 
toward particular people, that we select certain groups to identify with.
Contemplative thoughtfulness about our presence in this time and place will assure us we 
are needed for the loving growth of many. The mystery unfolds by design.
Karen Casey
~ Friendship is God's special way of loving us through someone else ~
~ God may delay the answer to our prayers in order to enlarge our capacity to receive it ~
~ Good exercise for the heart - bending down and helping another up ~

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-18/7680
From: Rick Audette
Subject: defining the Principles of Synthesis
7. We acknowledge the Christ-God-Consciousness as the single creative source manifesting 
through the Universe, and that this Power lies within each one of us.
8. We affirm that the power of Love is the greatest unifying principle and send only the pure Love 
of Christ/God to all.
Sounds pretty simple and straight forward, right. Yet, I know many, many people that say they 
Know Christ/God and seem to be talking about completely different things. Many christians seem 
to think Christ is Jesus' last name and that Jesus' mother was impregnated by God. Then there's 
the Trinity idea; Father, Son and Holy Spirit, but if you follow the "Immortal" and discussions on 
list, even you and I are as close to being God as those three and we all have a long way to go, 
before reaching Ultimate Perfection. And Mr. I am becoming that I am becoming, that spoke to 
Moses from the burning bush, is one among many others, some of which chose not to become 
and surely their group did not create itself, but has a Father above them yet. And from the above 
listed Principles, we don't even seem to be talking about individuals named God and Christ, but 
rather a type of consciousness that a fraction of mankind has attached those names to.
It does seem clear, to me, that what is being sought is the straightest line from where we are 
now, to ultimate perfection, which can only meet at infinity, that what drives us to seek is built in to 
us and that some of us call this built in drive, the Christ/God within, but it can and does have other 
names (Tao?)
Jesus (if He doesn't like that name, what would he like us to call him), The Christ a.k.a. 
Melchizedek and The Father a.k.a. The Ancient of Days are three separate individuals, with 
progressively higher ranks in the Brotherhood of Light. The statement, that no man can get to the 
Father, save through the Son, is based on principles, not personalities.
We need to know more about the persons and the principles, before we can make a 
commitment to 7 and 8. We cannot ask others to commit to them either, if we know they don't 
have the same definitions and understanding of terms. Who are these three guys, we call God 
and how do you define the principle, without attaching their names to it ???
Rick
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visit my web pages at http://www.ont.com/users/rea1/
have you read "The Immortal" http://www.freeread.com
A smile is a curved line that sets things straight.

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-19/7681
From: Glenys Lowery
Subject: Re: GLENYS
Sharon/ Richard wrote: "Darling Glenys, What a faantastic way to start my day. Your upday 
on Rangi has filled my heart with such joy, thank you. What an incredible experience this has 
been."
Thank you, Sharon! :-)
It has been an experience that has tested both Rangi ad I at every turn. While we were both 
convinced that she has been given another chance and that a miracle had taken place, the 
doctors seemed to be doing their very best to deny it. The experiences I've had with them and 
medical administration have been like tackling the Beast in action. It was only yesterday, after I 
threatened to make a formal complaint about the treatment Rangi has had to endure, that they 
kicked into action and started giving her the care she deserves.
So now their diagnosis has changed (it's changed twice since I last wrote to the list, each 
time more dire) to highly treatable pancreatitis. The cyst which they told me couldn't be drained 
when I asked last week will now be drained on Friday. And so it goes on. Her biggest problem is 
still her weight (she's painfully thin at 7 stone) and inability to eat. But that's getting better too and 
I'm sure will improve once the football sized cyst is drained and the pressure on her stomach is 
alleviated.
But she has suffered immeasurably and on the face of it, unnecessarily. I'm convinced that 
in many cases, one gets well in hospital in spite of the treatment rather than because of it. One 
good thing that's come out of it is that she is telling everyone who will listen (and those that won't) 
about her family on the Keys list and SG. She is *so* grateful to you all and keeps asking me to 
tell you (I explain to her that, technically, she is OT and I can't write about her too often :-)
She has now been in hospital 13 days and I've visited up to three times a day when I can get 
away from work. Sometimes it's me falling asleep in the chair next to her bed while she, the 
patient, is left with no one to talk to :-) Some friend!!
I'm home tonight because it's SG night. I'm sure when we say the Song we'll be offering up 
heartfelt thanks for the Miracle of Rangi and the loving support and kindness of the Keys list!
Thanks again for your great support.
Love
Glenys
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The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant.
We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
~ Albert Einstein

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-18/7682
From: "Barb Moss/Jonathan Moss"
Subject: Thanks
Thank you all for the warm welcome. Book 1&2 arrived today so I am eagerly waiting for my 
chance to read it. My Mom, who lives with me, and I are so very much impressed with the 
material in book 1 that we are sharing it with our metaphysical group that meets at our house on 
Tuesdays. We are going to have everyone write down their answer to the question, "who or what 
are you?" Then we will share and discuss it. Mom has received a lot of similar teachings from her 
own inner divinity that she then writes down. She has recently begun to share her writings with 
others. It is truly amazing to see Truth expressed in so many different ways. All of them slightly 
different but all the same as well. I am so happy to have found this outlet for sharing with other 
like minded people.
Here's a question for you that I have been struggling with. If God is All That Is, and is whole 
and complete, how could God "think" to be more? How and why did creation take place in the 
beginning? If God is All that is, how can there be "more"?
Barb

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-19/7683
From: Linda Tweedie 
Subject: To JJ Dewey - Gods Relationship to Good/Evil
I believe God created the environment/capacity for all things/conditions to exist. The rest 
was up to us as co-creators and look what we did!

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-19/7684
From: Mark D Williams
Subject: Polyglot Song
Laura, JJ and all:
I sent a version of this to JJ before I had a chance to read his "Comments" post. Wish 
SpiritWeb would get the archives running again.
Anyway, Altavista has a translation page that possibly could be used as a starting point for 
translation of the Song. The URL is: http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate?
I have copied below the results of translating the English version of the Song into the 
versions they have available. I assume some of our bilingual friendsand family could improve on 
these. My girlfriend, Carrie, (I know you are reading this) and/or Xavier could possibly work on the 
French version.
I notice that the program does not seem to translate "Father" (at least not in a way I 
recognize) or "enflamed" and the Spanish version translated Holy Spirit as alcohol santo... LOL. 
Laura, I will be happy to put the final versions on a webpage.
-----------
La chanson des 144.000 (French)
Nous vous remercions d'engendrer que vous avez indiqu_ _ nous votre lumi_re universelle 
protectrice; ce dans cette lumi_re est protection compl_te contre toutes les forces destructives; 
que l'esprit saint de votre pr_sence nous impr_gne dans cette lumi_re, et partout o nous voulons 
bien la lumi_re pour descendre.
Nous vous remercions d'engendrer que vous nous remplissez de vos feux protecteurs de 
l'amour; ce dans cet amour est protection compl_te contre tous les pens_es et sentiments 
destructifs; que la conscience du Christ est soulev_e vers le haut dans nous dans cet amour, et 
partout o nous voulons bien l'amour pour _tre enflamed.
Nous vous remercions d'engendrer que vous _tes dans nous et nous sommes dans vous; 
cela par nous votre volont_ est envoy_ en avant sur des ailes de puissance; que votre but est 
accompli sur terre pendant qu'il est dans le ciel; que par nous votre lumi_re et amour et 
puissance est manifeste _ tous les fils et filles de l'humanit_.
Das Lied der 144.000 (German)
Danken wir Ihnen hervorbringen, da_ Sie zu uns Ihr sch_tzendes Universallicht aufgedeckt 
haben; der innerhalb dieses Lichtes ist kompletter Schutz vor allen zerstrenden Krften; da_ der 
heilige Geist Ihrer Anwesenheit uns in diesem Licht durchdringt, und wohin wir das Licht willen, 
um abzusteigen.
Wir danken Ihnen hervorbringen, da_ Sie uns mit Ihren sch_tzenden Feuern der Liebe 
f_llen; der innerhalb dieser Liebe ist kompletter Schutz vor allen zerstrenden Gedanken und 
Gef_hlen; da_ das Bewu_tsein von Christ in uns in dieser Liebe angehoben wird, und wohin wir 
die Liebe willen, um zu sein, enflamed.
Wir danken Ihnen hervorbringen, da_ Sie in uns sind und wir in Ihnen sind; das durch uns Ihr 
Wille wird weiter auf Fl_gel der Energie gesendet; da_ Ihr Zweck auf Masse erreicht wird, whrend 
er im Himmel ist; da_ durch uns Ihr Licht und Liebe und Energie zu allen Shnen und zu Tchtern 
der Menschheit offenkundig ist.
La canzone dei 144.000 (Italian)
Li ringraziamo generare che avete rivelato a noi la vostra luce universale protettiva; quella 
all'interno di questa luce _ protezione completa da tutte le forze distruttive; che lo spirito santo 
della vostra presenza li pervade a questa luce e dovunque vogliamo la luce per discendere.
Li ringraziamo generare che li riempite di vostri fuochi protettivi di amore; quella all'interno di 
questo amore _ distruttiva protezione completa da tutta l' pensieri e sensibilit_; che la coscienza 
di Christ _ alzata in su in noi in questo amore e dovunque vogliamo l' amore per essere 
enflamed.
Li ringraziamo generare che siete in noi e siamo in voi; quello attraverso noi la vostra volont 
trasmesso avanti sulle ale di pontenza; che il vostro scopo compiuto su terra mentre _ nel cielo; a 
che attraverso noi la vostri luce ed amore e pontenza _ manifesti a tutti i figli e figlie dell' umanit_.
A can_"o dos 144.000 (Portuguese)
N_s agradecemo-lo genar que voc_ nos revelou sua luz universal protetora; aquela dentro 
desta luz _ prote_"o completa de todas as for_as destrutivas; que o esp_rito holy de sua 
presen_a permeates nos nesta luz, e onde quer que n_s queremos a luz descer.
N_s agradecemo-lo genar que voc_ nos enche com seus fogos protetores do amor; aquela 
dentro deste amor _ prote_"o completa de todos os pensamentos e sentimentos destrutivos; que 
o consciousness de Christ est? levantado acima em n_s neste amor, e onde quer que n_s 
queremos o amor ser enflamed.
N_s agradecemo-lo genar que voc_ est? em n_s e n_s estamos em voc_; isso atrav_s de 
n_s sua vontade _ emitido adiante nas asas da pot_ncia; que sua finalidade est? realizada na 
terra enquanto est? no heaven; que atrav_s de n_s seus luz e amor e pot_ncia s"o manifestos a 
todos os filhos e filhas da humanidade.
La canci_n de los 144.000 (Spanish)
Le agradecemos engendrar que usted ha revelado a nosotros su luz universal protectora; 
_sa dentro de esta luz es protecci_n completa contra todas las fuerzas destructivas; que el 
alcohol santo de su presencia nos impregna en esta luz, y dondequiera que queremos la luz para 
descender.
Le agradecemos engendrar que usted nos llena de sus fuegos protectores del amante; _sa 
dentro de este amante es protecci_n completa contra todos los pensamientos y sensaciones 
destructivos; que el sentido de Cristo est? levantado para arriba en nosotros en este amante, y 
dondequiera que queremos el amante para ser enflamed.
Le agradecemos engendrar que usted est? en nosotros y estamos en usted; eso a trav_s de 
nosotros su voluntad se env_a adelante en las alas de la potencia; que su prop_sito est? logrado 
en la tierra mientras que est? en cielo; que a trav_s de nosotros su luz y amante y potencia es 
manifestos a todos los hijos e hijas de la humanidad.

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-19/7685
From: "Jennifer Hampson"
Subject: Everything/Nothing
Hi Barb,
Your questions prompted me to think. (How could you do such a thing to me!!!) and here's 
what I came up with...
Q. If God is All That Is, and is whole and complete, how could God "think" to be more?
A. If God is All That Is then He is also incompletion and He can also think everything (and 
nothing), including being more. What's more He is also She and It and everything in between and 
on either side and up above and down below etc etc! To think that God could not "think" to be 
more, is to limit the limitless.
Q. How and why did creation take place in the beginning?
A. I'm not quite with you on this one. I can't imagine creation taking place in the middle, or at any 
point other than at the beginning! But maybe the emphasis of your question is on the how and 
why of creation. If so, if God is All that Is, that includes Creator. Creation is the Maker expressing 
Himself. (I think you will find 'The Immortal' provides a much more satisfying answer to your 
question than this though!)
Q. If God is All that is, how can there be "more"?
A. If you think about it you have just answered your own question! (i.e. there can be more 
precisely because God is All That Is)
Hope I haven't muddied the waters further for you!
Best wishes
Jennifer
On a different subject......Richard, it's good to know you're out there! And Anni, do you know 
I have never met anyone else born on 2nd Dec. before. As a bit of an astrologer, it means a lot to 
me. Love, Jen

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-19/7686
From: Marylin
Subject: Re: Everything/Nothing
Jennifer writes: "BarbQ. How and why did creation take place in the beginning?"
Jennifer
"A. I'm not quite with you on this one. I can't imagine creation taking place in the middle, or at any 
point other than at the beginning! But maybe the emphasis of your question is on the how and 
why of creation. If so, if God is All that Is, that includes Creator. Creation is the Maker expressing 
Himself. (I think you will find 'The Immortal' provides a much more satisfying answer to your 
question than this though!)"
Hi Barb and Jennifer
May I suggest that you check out the first chapter of JJ's book "TheMolecular Relationship". 
The title of the chapter is "Creation" and explains creation in a most enlightening way.
You can find it at: http://www.freeread.com/mr1.htm
Love, Light, Peace and Harmony
Marylin

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-19/7687
From: Marylin
Subject: Re: defining the Principles of Synthesis
Rick writes: "Who are these three guys, we call God and how do you define the principle, 
without attaching their names to it ???"
Hi Rick
My thinking may be a little off here, but "The father, the son and the holy ghost" are of what 
rather than who. They could be likened, I think, to mental, physical and spiritual. How this would 
apply on higher levels, I am not sure it would at all. The physical would be changed on a higher 
level or dimension/density.
Maybe you have some more in depth thoughts on this.
Love, Light, Peace and Harmony
Marylin

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-19/7688
From: Marylin
Subject: Re: Akashic Records and Book Of Life
Hi All,
As usual, I was sitting contemplating again this morning, and a new thought came to me.
It seems that as we live our physical lives, all is being recorded for the sake of "I Am 
Becoming". I understand that these are the Akashic Records.
Jesus had referred to the "Book Of Life" and said that only those whose names were written 
therein would be translated/saved/harvested.
The thought that came said that the two books are not one and the same but different and 
for different purposes.
We learned from Sunday school, etc., that God is everywhere, knows everything that we 
say, think and do. In my wonderings about people who choose to take a negative turn in their 
lives, is it possible that their names are still in the "Book Of Life"? Or do their names and life 
records just remain in the Akashic Records for the next lifetime to give them another chance to 
make a turn around to the positive path?
I would really like to hear the thoughts of others concerning this.
Love, Light, Peace and Harmony
Marylin 

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-19/7689
From: Paul Yu
Subject: Re: Akashic Records and Book Of Life
Hi Marylin,
Can the Book of Life be changed? Can God change his mind like us? If the Book of Life is 
not changed there can only be one chance in life and that chance is life for there is no death. The 
Records only shows how life is played out. You need two to play out one. If one chooses to take a 
negative turn in their life they are there and then taking a positive turn just opposite the negative 
taken, to be actualized and rendered apparent later when the condition is right. When a negative 
appears its polar positive will naturally appear; when a positive appears its polar negative will 
likewise appear: The life force keeps wobbling in a spiral to play out the one life.
Paul Yu
SpiritualityABC
SpiritualityESOTERIC
http://onelist.com

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-19/7690
From: Sharon and Richard
Subject: OT Translations
Mark what a terrific thing for you to do. However, i must tell you that you have just put 
another toy in my hands and i love it, thank you, much
love to all, la hermana, sharon

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-19/7691
From: Laura
Subject: Re: Akashic Records and Book Of Life
My thoughts would be that if Becoming = Living and Life and Being, Stagnation and Death, 
then those who choose to Be instead of Become would not be living and therefore would not be in 
the book of life.
This brings an interesting question though. Say a person has followed the way of light and 
decided to Become at some point Dark and to join the ways of the Dragon.
At this point would he stop Becoming, or would he merely Become something else?
I   n JJ's book, there is a sharp contrast between those who follow the light (Becomers) and those 
who follow the dark (Be-ers). But I would think that even in following the path of the dark, there 
would be a process of becoming darker.
So wouldn't they also be Becoming?
Laura

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-19/7692
From: "Darlene Williams"
Subject: Re: Everything/Nothing
Thanks Marylin for posting the information on the molecular relationship. I have been 
reading The Immortal for the last 2 days now (chapter 17) and didn't realize there was any other 
information from Dewey. I loved this article and feel it was very helpful in putting my own beliefs 
into a more workable model for me. It always amazes me how I come up with a thought and then 
from somewhere there is a coincidence which builds upon that thought.
Once again, thanks. Is there more that I can read that I'm not aware of yet?
Darlene

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-20/7693
From: "* Zia"
Subject: Re: defining the Principles of Synthesis
Greetings to All,
Have been following the information on the Synthesis groups, and thought I would put 
forward a thought, since that is what we all seem to be doing here.
"8. We affirm that the power of Love is the greatest unifying principle and send only the pure 
Love of Christ/God to all."
I would have thought it very important that what we state in words we are also doing in 
thought and actions. The above does not seem to be directly in line with what has been put 
forward on the list and carried out in actions on the list. One example that comes to mind is your 
own court case Rick with your wife, (or ex/wife). We were instructed to send only pure love to 
you, and not to your wife. This was in line it seems with some of the teachings of not 'enhancing' 
the dark forces. Since that is not my experience I do not agree with that instruction.
However, what I see is the above statement then is conditional, upon one's choice or 
judgment of 'light/dark' as to who this 'ALL' is.
I would also point out here that the song of the 144,000 manifests 'light love and power to 
ALL the sons and daughters of mankind'.
This has never been conditional in my thought or my actions, and so I simply do not believe this is 
being carried out without conditions at the present time. Thus this statement above is not in line 
with current perceived actions, with the ending of 'to all'.
Just a thought,
In love and laughter, ZIA

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-19/7694
From: "Caramel"
Subject: Re: Polyglot Song
Hello:
I am normally in lurker mode, but I can speak, read and write Spanish well. If anyone needs 
help with translations in Spanish language, let me know. Holy Spirit translation in Spanish is: 
Espritu Santo.
I live in the island of Puerto Rico. Learned English in NYC and I'm an Aquarian. By the way, 
we're expecting Hurricane Jose. Any positive energy this way would be greatly appreciated.
Caramel

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-19/7695
From: "Caramel"
Subject: Re: Everything/Nothing
Barb:
I am normally in lurker mode, but I am going to comment on this.
When one feels a spiritual awakening, the first impulse is to want to know as many things as 
soon as possible. However, when one thinks one finally knows many answers, you will bump into 
even more mysteries to ponder. There is simply no end. The best thing to do is to ENJOY THE 
PROCESS of knowing without ever feeling worried for what you do not yet know, focus more on 
enjoying the process of learning and you'll feel less anxious. I do understand your need to know 
for I have experienced that need to know myself (there is no way to really acknowledge 
something than going through the experience yourself). That's why I could understand you.
So, while you're enjoying the process, by all means, ask, ask, ask. Enjoy the process of 
learning, to the fullest, and last, but not least, welcome to the group.
Back to lurker mode.
Caramel

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-19/7696
From: Jean
Subject: Fwd: [prayer-l] Daily Prayer, 19/10/99
Let us surround ourselves in color....the many beautiful hues of health, abundance, 
happiness, and know that we are the precursors of what is to come...We control the destiny of our 
experience here....Let us choose wisely, the colors which will compliment our experience and 
know that they will shield us from adversity. The earthquakes that occur during the night are a gift 
from the earth, in that the departing souls are already in a dreamstate, and while it is temporarily 
confusing for them, there is much less fear created, than if the event happened during the noon 
hour. All of these energies of change are of course moving out along the earth's electro-magnetic 
grid, and so we are all feeling the effects , no matter where we are, and those who are sensitive 
are feeling them even more. This is the time to use our skills as LIGHTWORKERS. Yes, feel 
whatever is moving through you, and while you are being real and truthful, KNOW that the Light 
that you are, is assisting in the movement and transmutation of those energies. Call on the light to 
help you, remember you are not in this alone.
Let us release our former way of "releasing" , into a working partnership, with our highest 
Christ self. That energy is unconditional love, and understands all the levels we are working in 
and on. We are so multi-dimensional, that a part of us is indeed with the departing souls and 
feeling their confusion as well. Let us remember how connected we are with everything and 
everyone, and use the light to assist not only ourselves but the ONE.
Whenever you feel overcome with emotion or heaviness, connect with the golden star that is just 
above your head, and see or know that it Is connected to the golden grid that surrounds this 
earth. Let us feel our important places within this web of light and then call forth our own Christ 
Light to shine from our hearts, and send it out through the Gold Star, directly into the Grid. As this 
light and energy moves throughout the grid, it not only assists us, but all others, for everyone is a 
part of it, whether they are conscious of it or not. And as we consciously expand our own light it 
directly affects all parts of us in every dimension and time that we exist in.
Stay strong, stay in your truth, and most of all stay in compassion for yourself and all others 
during these very powerful days. You who are here, came here to be your self, to be the light, 
while walking the path of a human. The human experience is transforming and so you are 
transforming.
Release the old human identity, to one that consciously utilizes your core self, which is 
light/love. You can do it. And so many others stand with theirs hands on our shoulders, 
encouraging, supporting, and most of all loving us for the brave light warriors that we are. We are 
helping the earth and the human experience, as it releases its former identity. Maitreya is with us, 
always. Peace to us all.
"A happy outcome to all things is sure."
( silent prayer)
The technique: "Attention between eyebrows, let mind be before thought.
Let form fill with breath essence to the top of the head and then shower of light."
The beautiful garden spider built a nest outside my office window several weeks ago. I have 
watched with great joy at the daily task of the spider. It sent me on a search to find out the truth of 
the spider. I discovered that the spider gave us the alphabet. In her web she wove the dream of 
the world that had become manifest. Spiders dream of the physical world had come to fruition 
millions of years before. Sometimes we get too weaved into the web of life. Spider tells us to let 
go and not be entrapped by the webs of life. All of us have a great tendency to "belong" and 
through this sense of belonging we entangle ourselves in all sorts of traps in this journey of life.
Like the spiders web we are connected throughout the Cosmos with all of life. Animals are 
our friends that are free from the entanglements of the web of life. That is why we learn from 
them. I noticed that the spider was gone today.... My attention that she attracted taught me many 
lessons and many would say oh but that was just a spider...but I say it is a creature of our creator 
that has been sent our way to teach us a lesson in life. If we ignore the message we will continue 
to be entangled and then as natural as rain we become entangled so much so that the black 
widow can eat us up. The lesson is that as we move through the entanglements of the web we 
must be aware of our being. If we are entangled then it is time to break free. There are other 
lessons on the horizon.
When the student is ready the teacher appears. Let the lessons begin.
Light Love and Peace
Cmdr Z (Cleveland) BrownBear
*********************
I AM...
BE...
CAUSE...
Universe, teach me
to jump into the Flow
thank you
...
quest-tion
purpose of life: to become as a child
...
thought bubble
ah, to Be, once again
filled with wonder for life
excited about learning new things
unconcerned about things I cannot control
ah, to Be a child
...WAIT
Desperately, helplessly, longingly, I cried.
Quietly, patiently, lovingly God replied.
I pled and I wept for a clue to my fate,
And the Master so gently said, "Child, you must wait!"
So, I slumped in my chair, defeated and taut
And grumbled to God, "So, I'm waiting. . .for what?"
He seemed then to kneel and His eyes wept with mine,
And he tenderly said, "I could give you a sign.
I could shake the heavens, and darken the sun.
I could raise the dead, and cause mountains to run.
All you seek, I could give, and pleased you would be.
You would have what you want--but, you wouldn't know ME.
"You'd not know the depth of my love for each saint;
You'd not know the power that I give to the faint;
You'd not learn to see through the clouds of despair;
You'd not learn to trust just by knowing I'm there;
You'd not know the joy of resting in me
When darkness and silence were all you could see.
"You'd never experience that fullness of love
As the peace of my Spirit descends like a dove;
You'd know that I give and I save. . .(for a start),
But you'd not know the depth of the beat of my heart.
"The glow of my comfort late into the night.
The faith that I give when you walk without sight,
The depth that's beyond getting just what you asked
Of an infinite God, who makes what you have LAST.
And though often my answers seem terribly late,
My wisest of answers is still but to WAIT."
I AM...
BE...
CAUSE...
Spirit God, teach me Serenity
thank you
...
quest-tion
I seek my Truth within
...
thought bubble
Truth resides in my heart
quiet
blissful
graceful
but radiant
living in Truth
is living a prayer
...
PRAYER REQUESTS
Let us "bear one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ."
Galatians 6:2
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
We pray for Kali and Courtney, Elijah Toombs, all terminally ill children, Cathy's friend Eddie, 
in S.F. Calif. who has stomach cancer and one little boy Ryan who are undergoing 
chemotherapy, May they let go of the god of sickness.
We pray for Charlotte, the editor of eprayer's newsletter. May she let go of the god of 
sickness.
We pray for Isaac Hwang's mother, and for Nancy's best friend, Laura G., may they let go of 
the god of sickness.
We pray for Lori Rhiannon and her 15yr old son. God, Please Touch your Daughter and Son 
in a Grand Stimulus of Love and Light! We bombard Heaven on Jordan's behalf. May he let go of 
the god of sickness. Clear Alannah's body and mind let her be healthy again this day. May she let 
go of the god of sickness.
We pray for Rachel R., only 7 yrs old, Bruce Evan Hughes, and his father Rob, Amy's 5 year 
old daughter, Kelsey Brooke Jones, from Southern Minnesota, missing since 4pm Oct.11, 1999, 
Amanda Brown 7 who has been missing some time now, all missing persons, and those who 
miss them. God, Please Touch your Daughters and Sons in a Grand Stimulus of Love and Light!
We pray for Torii who is going to be in the hospital, that God sends her a special angel to 
watch over her and protect her. May she let go of the god of sickness.
For Jason, who's aunt is very ill and Arthur as he struggles with his manhood and mood 
swings, Nicole as she deals with the loneliness and despair of being a working single mom, God, 
Please Touch your Daughters and Sons in a Grand Stimulus of Love and Light!
We also hold in the circle of light Ross, Jean, Nancy, Debs, Wayne, Lynette, Shannon, all 
rape victims, my stepfather Joe, son Joshua, Jason, Donald and Ann, a son who was unjustly 
accused of inappropriate behavior with a minor, a daughter hospitalized for another pulmonary 
embolism, and for a husband and wife who have lost their health insurance. God, Please Touch 
your Daughters and Sons in a Grand Stimulus of Love and Light!
We pray for Bjorn, may he let go of the god of sickness and anxiety.
We pray for the ancient site of Jabiluka and the ascension of our mother Gaia. God, Please 
Touch your Daughter in a Grand Stimulus of Love and Light!
We pray for healing and fair settlement of the ACIM(r) copyright issue. Please Touch your Sons, 
God, in a Grand Stimulus of Love and Light!
We also hold up Tom Harrelson. Please Touch your Son, God, in a Grand Stimulus of Love 
and Light!
We thank the angel Akriel on behalf of all teachers and students. God, Please Touch your 
Daughter in a Grand Stimulus of Love and Light! Dear God, be with Phil M.deep in grief, his wife 
Linda and his children... God, Please Touch your Daughters and Sons in a Grand Stimulus of 
Love and Light! 
We pray for Rose's 10 yr old niece Angela who was hit by a car. God, Please Touch your 
Daughters in a Grand Stimulus of Love and Light!
We pray for Gina, 3 months pregnant with chronic lower back pain and headaches. May she let 
go of the god of sickness.
We pray for Star-Child Karin (20/9/1996), Brisbane, Queensland, Australia - who has been 
kidnapped by her father who plans to have her raped by his friend. God, Please encircle your 
Daughter with four magnificent blue angels with flaming swords, and Touch her in a Grand 
Stimulus of Love and Light!
For George Goodrode, who had a serious surgery on Sept 27th and his wife Katie who has 
been at the hospital ever since. May they let go of the god of sickness.
As you breathe deeply envision your prayer request moving up and out of the Crown Chakra 
and up the Column of Light to your I Am Presence - use arm mudras (lifting arms in a cupping or 
"y" configuration above your head) if you wish.
Then as you feel the Radiance of God flowing back down through the Column of Light into 
your Crown Chakra, say:
Beloved Creator of All, Thy Rain of Blessings is falling on me and soaking my beingness at 
all levels, dimensions and aspects with Divine Bounty. I Am thankful and I Am sending you my 
Gratitude. And so it is! If you are willing, say this prayer every day for 30 days (or longer).
We embrace with thanksgiving these pockets of clearing of the burdens that weigh us down, 
for they can release many challenging lessons that may otherwise need to be experienced to 
attain to the Highest within us. Amen.
Love, Claire / Purple Fire Monkey Climbing Mountain
You are not breathing. You are being breathed.

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-19/7697
From: Jean
Subject: Re: Akashic Records and Book Of Life
Am I getting through? I seem to have posted a prayer request and some thoughts and have 
had no response, I am not sure if my posts are getting through can someone please respond 
back?
Jean
My included homepage:
http://community.webtv.net/Timber-roo/TheSandsOfTime

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-19/7698
From: Sharon and Richard
Subject: OT Prayers
Many apologies, Jean, your prayer request post came through and is included in our prayers 
with the other's. It was rude of me to not respond to you, especially since you have been so 
thoughtful of us. Please know that prayers and love have been going out. much love to all, sharon

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-19/7699
From: Brian Weis
Subject: "OT" - Responding to Prayer Requests
** I Said a Prayer for You Today **
(by Frank Zamboni)
I said a prayer for you today
And I know God must have heard.
I felt the answer in my heart although He spoke no word.
***
I didn't ask for wealth or fame, I knew you wouldn't mind,
I asked Him to send treasures of a far more lasting kind.
I asked that He'd be near you at the start of each new day,
to grant you health and blessings and friends to share the way.
I asked for happiness for you in all things great and small,
but it was for His loving car I prayed the most of all.

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-19/7700
From: Brian Weis
Subject: Re: "OT" - Responding to Prayer Requests
I wrote: "I asked for happiness for you in all things great and small, but it was for His loving 
car I prayed the most of all."
Um, that would actually be "His loving CARE"...
I don't recall praying for transportation. Oh well.
: )

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-20/7701
From: "Caramel"
Subject: Re: "OT" - Responding to Prayer Requests
Prayers, light and love sent your way
Caramel
From Brian Weis: " ** I Said a Prayer for You Today **"

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-20/7702
From: "GEOFFREY ELLIS"
Subject: "The Beloved Disciple" 
Hi all
I have read a book on the Internet called "The Beloved Disciple" by James Twyman. The 
similarities between this book and JJ's are incredible. Even the style is the same.
People following the path led by JJ will find this book invaluable. It can be found at the 
address below, actually it was an answer to my prayers.
http://www.newage.com.au/
Geoffrey

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-20/7703
From: J J Dewey
Subject: Chapter Thirty-Two
CHAPTER THIRTY-TWO
Part 1
THE COVENANT OF THE THREE ENERGIES
The last part of the Covenant reads as follows: I covenant to channel all my energies of sex, 
money and power toward union and not separateness and consecrate myself and all these 
energies toward the purpose of God to create the Union of Souls and to establish the 
Kingdom of God on the Earth. AUMAN.
The basic idea here is to dedicate all of our energies toward the Union of Souls and not toward 
the separate self.
We shall briefly cover this commitment as to how it relates to the three basic energies:
SEX
What is right and wrong about sex seems to have baffled humanity since the beginning of 
time. About the only clear-cut teaching offered is through religious interpretation. The basic black-
and-white doctrine on it is that sex outside of the marriage relationship is wrong. Ask a religious 
person why it is wrong; he says: "Because God says so." Somehow, this explanation does not 
satisfy an intelligent person. He wants to know the reason behind all things, and without an 
explanation or understanding, he has little motivation to live by this or any other principle.
Sex is an energy; the governing principle that makes the use of any energy correct is union. 
Simply put, that action which separates Souls is negative; action which brings Souls together in 
union is good.
The marriage covenant is a natural good because it is a covenant which directs the energy 
of sex toward the union of two Souls; and the male and female must unite and harmonize before 
greater unions with others can take place.
Adultery is negative because it directs the energy of sex away from union which produces 
separateness and weakens the relationship.
Some commit adultery in the name of freedom, but if there is deceit and betrayal involved 
less freedom will be the result in the kingdom of the soul.
Does this mean that the only sex we can have is within the confines of a legal marriage?
To understand the answer to this, we must not take the black-and-white approach but must 
look at the principle behind marriage. The underlying principle behind marriage is a covenant with 
the purpose of directing all sexual and romantic energy toward the union of two Souls. What the 
Soul looks at is the fulfillment of purpose, not a legal marriage document. Therefore, even if the 
two are not legally married, but have an understanding between them that they are dedicating 
their romantic and sexual energies toward each other for the purpose of union, then the principle 
is fulfilled.
Any sexual act that is performed outside of the agreed-upon relationship is then separative, 
is not good, and is in violation of the agreements made.
The worst misuse of the sexual energy is when deceit and betrayal are involved, and when 
an agreement with a partner is broken, these two evils usually manifest.
The question may arise: Is it all right to have multiple relationships if everything is completely 
open with no deceit or betrayal, and all are in agreement? This is not as nearly a serious offense 
against the Soul as when the breaking of a covenant is involved; but multiple relationships 
interferes with the union of souls because the circulation of energy is incomplete and an empty 
feeling or lack of fullness will be felt by some participants, which prevents the complete merging 
of two which makes a human atom. Sex without commitment can lead to separative feelings such 
as jealousy and bitterness, and can cause the destruction of a spiritual organization.
It is important to remember here that there are two basic paths that all mankind are on. The 
first is the Path of Experience. This is the path of the individual who lives for the separative selfish 
self and experiences all there is in the world of separation. After many lifetimes the pilgrim has 
gleaned much valuable experience, and he eventually learns there is no permanent satisfaction in 
separation.
The second is the Path of Union. We enter this path when we tire of having experience just 
for the sake of experience, and we seek to put purpose in our lives. Purpose is the energy that 
seeks union and when we sense it we seek only to use energy to push us toward those 
experiences that will bring us closer to oneness.
Therefore, the correct use of all energy including sex is directing it toward union of an 
indefinite duration.
In the physical world, most recognize that we make many changes on the road to perfection. 
Over many lifetimes we change partners numerous times on the road to the final union. Each 
sexual partner we have will be like a teacher for us, to help us be better prepared for the next 
relationship. If there is an understanding of faithfulness or trust there should be no betrayal 
whatsoever.
If a betrayal of trust occurs those great lives that direct karma will eventually put the offender 
in a situation where he himself is betrayed and will learn the lesson of the tremendous pain he 
previously inflicted. Such pain, for the most of humanity, is only surpassed by the death of a loved 
one.
However, if the relationship is not working, and one party decides he wants another 
relationship or wants to end the current one, he should be open about it. If he has an outside 
sexual relationship and is deceitful, he will cast a dark cloud over his Soul that may cost him his 
relationship with his Higher Self for the rest of his life unless he realizes the magnitude of the 
harm he has done and seeks to correct his path.
If he wants to move on to another relationship he should first conclude the current one. Hurt 
feelings will most likely result, but the hurt will, in the long run, be much less than a betrayal. 
Ending a relationship with openness and honesty instead of deceit and betrayal keeps the door 
open for progress on the spiritual path.

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-19/7704
From: Laura
Subject: [+] Current and Upcoming Projects and Volunteers
*** Vision without Action is no more than a Dream ***
Hey, peeps.. I've finally gotten that list together. This is a list of both Current and Upcoming 
projects that we have or need volunteers for.
Please review this list and look for something to make itself apparent to you. Also, if you see 
something that's not listed that you know would help in getting this CWNN (Council with No 
Name) further, post it to the list! Volunteer yourself!
So without further ado:
Project/Action Volunteer
Editing Chapter 29 (done) BambieA@aol.com Marylin
Finding info on Non-profit status aley@wcl.on.ca Aley
Translating the Song into Danish (done) aiw@edu.ats.dk Anni
Translating the book into Danish aiw@edu.ats.dk Anni
Translating the Song into Spanish caramel@pinacolada.net Caramel
Acting treasurer susi@healinghearth.com Susi
Coordinator rea1@ont.com Rick
Searching for similar groups linen@flash.net Diane
Volunteering use of artwork for cause aley@wcl.on.ca Aley
Working on plan to initiate seminars jkline@therural.net John
Working on articles for publication jkline@therural.net John
Creating a mission statement, bus plan runewitch@hotmail.com Laura
Org. effort to translate song & book runewitch@hotmail.com Laura
Using Polyglot to translate song (done) voxdoc@yahoo.com Mark
Contacting bookstores to request they (open) carry the Immortal
Translating the song & book in non- (open) english languages
Creating webpage for the CWNN and for runewitch@hotmail.com Laura
the Immortal & keys education jkline@therural.net John
Writing articles for webpage jkline@therural.net John
Promoting webpage to other sites and (open) engines (once created)
================
Okay, so there's the list. It's certainly not a complete list, and I'm sure there are others out 
there with ideas you'd like to see addressed, so please voice your opinions. Contact those listed 
above if you'd like to help them with their projects. It's a collaborative effort and no single person 
can do it all.
THE WEBPAGE
John and I are currently working on a plan for a webpage that will include a LOT of things 
related to the keys, the immortal, and this future CWNN. We will be posting the page on Tripod 
and are shooting for a publication date of either Monday or Wednesday of next week. It will not be 
a complete site at that point, but it will be under constant construction and revision.
This site's content will include a bulletin board for people who would rather not be on the list 
itself, a form to enter in inspirational poems or jokes, etc. (for prizes), an educational section 
which will include links and articles to issues and topics relating to what we are learning, 
information on the CWNN and information on how to volunteer your help, the Song and all its 
collective translations, and a page with a request for donations and where to send them.
I will be finding out by next week how much it costs to have a PO Box set up, because I do 
not want ANYONE'S - and I do mean ANYONE'S - personal information available for just anyone 
to pick up. It's a PO Box or nothing right now, and we will need something for mail and donations 
to be sent to. We can discuss where this PO Box should be set up later.
Eventually the site will offer awards for inspirational and Immortal-inspired sites from around 
the web. This will help us motivate people to visit the page and will hopefully bring more people 
onto the list as active members.
Okay, peeps... I'm getting froggy here, as it is 12:30 a.m. and I have to be up at 7!!! :) Let me 
remind each of you whose names are above that you are not obligated to continue to volunteer 
your time and efforts. Let me know as soon as you decide that you would like to remove your 
name from a project, and it will be done. However, if your name is listed above and you accept 
the task, we will hold you to getting your task done. I know it's hard to do sometimes, but these 
things need to be done :)
Anyhoo.. hope ya'll have a great night and hope this sparks some minds into new 
opportunities.
Remember..
Vision without Action is just a Dream!!!!!!
Laura

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-20/7705
From: Marylin
Subject: Re: "OT" - Responding to Prayer Requests
Brian Weis writes: "I asked for happiness for you in all things great and small, but it was for 
His loving car I prayed the most of all."
"Um, that would actually be "His loving CARE"... I don't recall praying for transportation. Oh 
well. : )"
LOL.....I heard on a tv program that "laughter is one method of finding love." Besides what 
law says He can't have a car?

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-20/7706
From: Jean
Subject: Re: OT Prayers
Dearest Sharon , thank you so much for your response. I truly appreciate it. Love, jean
My included homepage:
http://community.webtv.net/Timber-roo/TheSandsOfTime

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-20/7707
From: Jean
Subject: Fwd: [DivineBeingsOfLight] Letter from Jesus-OT
From: Alannah
My Dear Friend:
How are you? I just had to send you this letter to tell you how much I love and care about 
you. I saw you yesterday as you were walking with your friends. I waited all day, hoping that soon 
you'd want me to walk along with you, too.
As evening drew near, I painted you a sunset to close your day and whispered a cool breeze 
to refresh you, and I waited. You never came. Oh yes, it hurt Me, but I just kept on loving you.
As I watched you fall asleep last night, I longed to touch your brow. I spilled moonlight upon 
your face, trickling down your cheeks as so many tears have. Again I waited, but you didn't even 
think of me. I wanted so much to rush down so we could talk. I have so many gifts for you.
The next day I exploded a brilliant sunrise into glorious morning for you. 
But you awakened late and rushed off for the day. You didn't even notice Me. My sky 
became cloudy and my tears were the rain. Oh, how I LOVE YOU!
Today you looked so sad and so alone. It makes my heart ache because I understand. My 
friends let Me down and hurt Me many times too. Oh, if you'd only listen. I really LOVE you. I try 
to say it in the quiet of the green meadow and in the vibrant blue sky. The wind whispers my love 
throughout the treetops and spills it into the vivid colors of all the flowers. I shout it to you in the in 
the thunder of the great waterfalls, in mountain streams, and I compose love songs for birds to 
sing for you.
I warm you with the clothing of my warm sunshine and perfume the air with nature's sweet 
scent. My love for you is deeper than any ocean and greater than the biggest want or need you 
may have. If you'd only realize how much I really care.
We will spend eternity together in heaven. I know how hard it is on earth.
I know because I was once there. I really want to help you.
My Father cares for you and wants to help you, too. Fathers are just that way. So please, 
call on me soon. Just call Me, ask Me, talk to Me. It is your decision. I have chosen you. No 
matter how long it takes, I'll wait forever because I LOVE YOU!
Your friend,
Jesus
-------------------
The sage does not accumulate for himself.
The more he uses for others, the more he has himself.
The more he gives to others, the more he possesses of his own.
The way of heaven is to benefit others and not to injure.
~Lao-Tzu

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-20/7708
From: Jean
Subject: Fwd: [DivineBeingsOfLight] Letter from Jesus-OT
Editor's Note: Repeat post of No. 7707

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-20/7709
From: Marylin
Subject: Re: Akashic Records and Book Of Life
Hi Jean
Yes, your post came through here. Try resending the request.
Love, Light, Peace and Harmony
Marylin

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-20/7710
From: "Caramel" 
Subject: Re: "The Beloved Disciple" 
That website looks neat. I'll check out the book.
Thanks.
Caramel
From GEOFFREY ELLIShttp://www.newage.com.au/

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-20/7711
From: "Caramel" 
Subject: Re: [] Current and Upcoming Projects and Volunteers
Place a (done) for me. I already translated the song into Spanish.
Glad to have been of help.
Caramel

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-20/7712
From: Marylin
Subject: Re: defining the Principles of Synthesis
Zia writes: "This was in line it seems with some of the teachings of not 'enhancing' the dark 
forces. Since that is not my experience I do not agree with that instruction. "
Good point, Zia. It appears that the "fearing" of enhancing the dark forces is the very thing 
that does the enhancing. That old enemy, fear.
Back in the days when my inner self had to use the dream method of getting through to my 
conscious mind, I had a dream about the power of love. I was in a place filled with negative 
aspects. There were little "cherubs" around and they were not on the positive side. One jumped 
up on my back and hung on to my shoulders. I was surprised and then realized that I should give 
it love. I reached back and patted it lovingly on it's little back and it just "fell away". That, in itself, 
left me amazed, that the power of love would be so strong.
And while writing this post, I just found the answer to one of my own concerns.
Love, Light, Peace and Harmony
Marylin

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-20/7713
From: Marylin
Subject: Re: Everything/Nothing
Darlene writes: "Is there more that I can read that I'm not aware of yet?"
Hi Darlene. Have you found your way to the archives yet? They can be found on the 
spiritweb page where we click on the lists. It's at the bottom of "The Knowledge of Keys". I think 
you can get in. We've been doing some work to make the archives more easily read.
Love, Light, Peace and Harmony
Marylin

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-20/7714
From: Lorraine Deckard
Subject: revelation of mine
Hello Fellow Keysters,
As I type this I am shaking because I understand something for the first time and I need to 
share with you now. Because the Spirit Web is down you may not get this anytime soon but you 
will get it sooner or later. The thing I just understood is the reason we do the work. Yes, it's true 
that the Brotherhood knows and understands what's going on but we understand humans. Just 
as wrong as it would be for me to go to kindergarten and teach by doing it for them, so is it wrong 
for the Masters to come and do it for us on Earth. That's our job. All they can do is provide me 
with the learning I will need to be able to do it. I know a kindergartener must learn to read. I can 
read to them to give them the desire to learn. I can teach all the rules about the alphabet and 
letters and what happens when you put them together. But assimilating it all together must be 
theirs. I teach, encourage, support and hope, but the child must put it all together and learn. They 
are increased by their new found skill. The Masters can't come to Earth to do it for us. They 
already know how to read. It's our turn to learn. And why would you bring in a Philosopher like 
Socrates to teach the basics. You wouldn't. You would use 3rd graders if you were smart 
because you have to get down to their level. Humans know how to speak to humans. I 
understand me and others like me.
I know we don't feel worthy or ready. We probably wish we were more holy in our own eyes. 
When the Original Disciples where called they didn't feel worthy either but they stepped up to the 
task. I understand now, for the first time, I will do the work. In all my human imperfections and 
frailty. With all the reasons humans can find not to, I will. With all the things in my life that others 
will find fault with, I will. With all my own personal doubts and insecurities, I will. I understand I 
must do what the Masters have done before me. And so must you. Without the children learning 
how to read, why write books? It's just a step. One little step in the Grand scheme of things. But 
without the step, no walking. I am decision. I am becoming what I decide to become and I decide 
to Become. 
This is my covenant with the group that all that I am, all that I have, all that I may ever have 
or ever become will be used for the building up of the Kingdom of God on on Earth. This is my 
decision, this is what I am Becoming.
Lorraine

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-20/7715
From: Lorraine Deckard
Subject: Marylin's Biography
Hello keysters,
Please meet Marylin. Her picture is posted on Samu's photo page.
I was born feet first on September 21, 1936 in Cedar Rapids, Iowa at approximately 8 to 
8:30 am on a Monday. I've been jumping into things ever since. I don't have a partner at the 
present time. Or at least not one that I am aware of. But it would really be nice to have a working 
partner. I have only had one "lucid" experience in NJ and that was the first time I got there. Other 
times it seemed like I just popped into my room. In one experience, not too long ago, I saw 
Sharon reaching out to me. I now get into my room and I either fall asleep shortly after or, when 
our little dog, Max, sleeps in my room, his snoring jerks me back.
Or thoughts about something that happened during the day blare at me and I loose the 
"picture". I refuse to stop trying though. One of these days.
I live in Georgia, it is a very nice place to live as long as you stay away from the big cities. 
The weather is pleasant with changes of seasons. I especially like the spring when the azaleas, 
dogwood, daffodils and tulips are in bloom. The air is very clear and clean (away from the 
industrial cities).
I raised four of my own, a boy, a girl, a boy and a girl. I am now living with my oldest 
daughter and helping her with my two teenage grandsons. One just entered college this fall and 
the second has entered into the "terrible teens".
Two years and approximately eight months ago, JJ contacted me via email. It seems that I 
had made a comment somewhere on the net with regard to the spiritual and he ran across it. I 
guess his soul contact "tweaked" him and he sent me a very welcome letter of inquiry. Now who, 
in their right mind, would turn down such a fantastic opportunity to read (for free, no less) "The 
Immortal"?
I got the name Bambi for my email from my latest husband. He and I had a little 
Chihuahua/Rat Terrier that we rescued from the pound when she was only 7 weeks and very 
sick. She was so tiny and delicate and looked at us with her huge, "please help me" eyes, that 
also contained a lot of love. We both thought 'she looks just like a new born deer' and we named 
her Bambi. I wanted to go by Bambi in the email but it kept saying "that name is already in use". 
So after several tries AOL finally settled on BambieA for me. It's in memory of a very loving little 
dog who woke us one night when danger was about.
I would like to say how much I love Marylin. She has always been warm and welcoming.

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-21/7716
From: "* Zia"
Subject: OT Perfection
Greetings to All,
Just a simple thought that occurred to me, one of interpretation:
'Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father in Heaven is Perfect.'
Saw in focus that with two words changed in position we have:
'Ye be therefore perfect, even as your Father in Heaven is Perfect.'
Wow, what a difference that created for man trying to perfect himself, by giving a command 
to 'be ye perfect' rather than the recognition that 'ye be perfect'.
What a different perspective!! Would all of our fears and beliefs based on imperfection be 
non-existent, and would we be the truly powerful beings we are, had these two words been 
reversed?
In love and laughter, ZIA

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-20/7717
From: Jean
Subject: Re: "OT" - Responding to Prayer Requests
Thanks once again, so much Caramel, you are one of the ones who always respond to me 
so nicely. :)
love, Jean
My included homepage:
http://community.webtv.net/Timber-roo/TheSandsOfTime

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-20/7718
From: Marylin
Subject: Re: Polyglot Song
Caramel writes: "I live in the island of Puerto Rico. Learned English in NYC and I'm an 
Aquarian. By the way, we're expecting Hurricane Jose. Any positive energy this way would be 
greatly appreciated."
Hi Caramel
Love, light and positive energy is on the way.
Love, Light, Peace and Harmony
Marylin

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-19/7719
From: Rick Audette
Subject: Re: defining the Principles of Synthesis
It's one thing to Love all life forms. It is entirely something else to allow vermin to roam free 
inside your home. Ants, roaches, spiders, snakes, mice and kitty cats are all Gods creatures, but 
that doesn't mean I have to let them in the house. We wouldn't willingly put anything valuable too 
close to a black hole. At the risk of getting John started, you don't cast pearls before swine.
Not fair to use me and Margaret in your example. With all she has done to me, regardless of 
what friends and family warn, I still have to communicate with her and try to be civil and helpful 
and forgiving and treat her with the same respect due any and all of my six billion other brothers 
and sisters. Still, when she is around, I gotta keep one hand protecting the wallet and the other to 
guard my jewels. But on my computer screen is the faces of all those in a circle, that say the song 
with me and off to one side, her face is on there too.
I still think it's possible to Love something without having to like it. We all have different ways 
of stirring the pot and tending the fire. I think a good man will ask first before stirring another's 
stew or poking at his coals.
Rick
--
ICQ 19753992
visit my web pages at http://www.ont.com/users/rea1/
have you read "The Immortal" http://www.freeread.com
A smile is a curved line that sets things straight.

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-19/7720
From: Rick Audette
Subject: Re: OT Perfection
"Wow, what a difference that created for man trying to perfect himself, by giving a command 
to 'be ye perfect' rather than the recognition that 'ye be perfect'. What a different perspective!! 
Would all of our fears and beliefs based on imperfection be non-existent, and would we be the 
truly powerful beings we are, had these two words been reversed? In love and laughter, ZIA"
What difference, indeed. I've heard it expressed both ways and a thousand variations in 
between. But, for all their different words, I have yet to meet a single entity that was measurably 
any closer to perfection than I am. We all have an infinitely long way to go. The trip is in the going 
(becoming). What doesn't go, is dead.
Rick
--
ICQ 19753992
visit my web pages at http://www.ont.com/users/rea1/
have you read "The Immortal" http://www.freeread.com

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-20/7721
From: "Barb Moss/Jonathan Moss"
Subject: Help again
I still don't think I'm doing this right. When I get to the Keys of Knowledge list I can't find any 
place to enter the password. I can't click on the archives either. Nothing happens. I know that I 
got connected once because there was an e-mail sent to me. I just can't figure out how to do it 
again. Will someone please take pity on me and help this totally computer illiterate dunce? 
Thanks a bunch.
Barb

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-21/7722
From: "Darlene Williams"
Subject: Re: Help again
Hi,
Sometimes when you click on the spiritweb.org link it shows an error. This has nothing to do 
with you. Sometimes you need to just retype the same information as opposed to just clicking on 
what is there. At least this has worked for me. Good luck.
Darlene

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-21/7723
From: J J Dewey
Subject: NJ Meditation
The Most Desirable Fruit
You look at the Master's tree in the center on the gentle hill and you wonder about it. The 
fruit you have eaten so far is wonderful yet you sense there is more, that this tree in the center is 
somehow a special tree. You are curious about how the fruit of the tree in the center could be 
more potent that what you have experienced thus far.
The two Masters unite again as one beautiful entity and speaks the answer you desire as if 
he were reading your mind.
"My friends. The twelve trees you have manifested with the twelve different fruits represents 
the twelve highest qualities and tastes that you can manifest and take back to physical 
consciousness. These fruits represent the highest in the worlds of form, or the physical, the 
emotional and the plane of the mind.
"This fruit in the center represents the synthesis of your twelve fruits, but the whole is greater 
than the sum of the parts and through the synthesis of twelve a new ingredient is created that 
penetrates to higher than the mind to the kingdom of God. Partaking of this fruit brings you to the 
Love of God.
"Here you can freely partake of this fruit which fills you with the love of God and links within 
you heaven and earth. After you eat and return you will develop dual consciousness. At first you 
will not be able to take back to earth a complete consciousness of the Love of God, but as you 
put attention on remembering the Love will grow within you on earth s it is in heaven.
"Come forward and eat."
A brave soul steps forward and the Master picks a piece of fruit and hands it to him (her). He sits 
down in front of the Master and eats. As he eats he looks very pleased and angelic. His body is 
turning a translucent glowing white with traces of gold and violet emanations.
Others come forward and sit down and eat until you sense it is your turn. You step forward 
and the Master picks your fruit and hands it to you. Just the feel of it in your hands seems to fill 
you with light. Then you begin to eat and as you do you realize that this fruit is the has the most 
exquisite taste of any fruit there is and you realize the truth of the Song which speaks of the 
"consciousness of Christ lifted up in you in this Love..." There is indeed a "lifting up" feeling and 
you realize that the pure love of God is more pure and intense than anything you have felt before. 
It is so intense that you sense that you will return with the memory that you experienced an 
intense love but will be unable while in regular consciousness to recall the full intensity.
As you finish the fruit you come to as full realization that this one fruit is a full synthesis of all 
twelve fruits and you consider the possibility that you will partake of it each time you come.
Then the Master speaks again.
"You will eat of the fruit of this tree only when it is granted to you by me or one appointed by 
me. Because you are still of the earth it is wisdom to divide your attention on the various twelve 
aspects as needed. So unless this most desirable fruit is given to you, you are to eat of one or 
more of the twelve fruits of which you are most in need."
This thought seems to satisfy your soul for you feel the effect of this fruit will stay with you for 
some time to come.
You eat the rest of your fruit and after all of you are finished the Master sets the group 
around him in a circle in preparation for further instruction.

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-21/7724
From: "Caramel" 
Subject: Re: Polyglot Song
Looks like Hurricane Jose decided to head in another direction. Phew!!! That's a relief.
Thanks for the positive energy.
Caramel
Marylin wrote: "Love, light and positive energy is on the way."

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-21/7725
From: Paul Yu
Subject: OT Being and becoming
Hi everyone,
Becoming is an infinite journey. Can we ever get to our destination of being by becoming if 
we were not being itself?
If being is at the other end of an infinite continuum, by definition of the term of becoming, one 
can never reach from wherever they are to where being is by becoming. If we were not already 
perfect we could never become perfect except by illogical fancying.
The meaning of becoming is no more than walking an experiential path where we seem to 
move along making progress in our illusory time and space. Which is of course not meant to 
minimize evolution or illusion for that matter. It is all part of the plan of which the purpose is 
unknown but to the masters of wisdom.
What else could we be if not being itself?
If we knew we are being, becoming would begin to make sense.
If being is Father and perfect we, one with being and Father, are likewise perfect.
Paul Yu
SpiritualityABC
SpiritualityESOTERIC
http://onelist.com

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-21/7726
From: Laura
Subject: OT Being and becoming
Actually, Paul, Becoming makes perfect sense to me. It seems your point is that by 
attempting to be in a perpetual state of growth, or becoming, we are actually continually BEING. 
But this cannot be true.
For if one IS and only IS, there is no growth, no change, no real movement. You can sit and 
chant OHM all you like and BE until the cows come home, but there will be no growth and no 
evolution of the race of humankind unless someone pulls up their sleeves and gets busy 
BECOMING something more than they already are.
It also seems that you are belittling the concept of Becoming by stating that it is an infinite 
journey, that there is no end to it and that there is no place to stop and BE perfect. You say that 
the Father is perfection and that to hope to become perfect through a perpetual state of becoming 
is - in your words - 'illogical fancying'.
So what would your solution be, Paul? Would you accept the state that you are currently in 
and the situation that you are currently in to be the highest form of perfection that you can 
personally be at? Seems to me the illogical fancying is thinking that you are perfect as you are 
right now, that you are the Highest you can be and to hope to become more would be madness.
Such thinking is not for me. I'd like to think that I can constantly improve. Perfection is, 
indeed, an illusion. It is a destination an eternity away, but it does not stop me from trying to get 
there, Paul. Because I know that every step I make towards that infinite 'illogical' goal will bring 
me closer within myself, it will help me grow and, eventually, will help me help others to grow as 
well.
Stay in the state of 'being' all you like. I'll send you a postcard from the 'illogical' other side.
Laura

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-21/7727
From: Paul Yu
Subject: Re: OT Being and becoming
Hi Laura and everyone,
I am not denying the phenomenon of becoming, Laura. All I am saying is that it is being that 
is becoming. In other words, without being there would be no becoming. What would be 
becoming then?
The experience of becoming is real in a relative sense, namely, in the sense that it is 
contingent upon a dual requirement of a point of departure and a point of destination in terms of 
time and space. The experience itself does not indicate the subject that is becoming. If it were the 
personality alone that is becoming then the becoming would get nowhere. If it were the soul that 
is becoming the becoming could get somewhere but not everywhere. If it is spirit or monad that is 
becoming through the soul in the personality then the becoming of the soul through the 
instrumentality of the personality can get everywhere since spirit is everywhere.
Let us for the time being take spirit or monad as being as opposed to soul and personality as 
becoming. We are spirit or monad rather than soul or personality. We are being and we become 
being at the same time.
Paul Yu
SpiritualityABC
SpiritualityESOTERIC
http://onelist.com

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-21/7728
From: "Darlene Williams"
Subject: Re: OT Being and becoming
Paul,
While reading your discussion with Laura about being vs becoming the question of how you 
pray came to my mind. In most New Age thought people are suggested to align with their Higher 
Selves to gather guidance regarding this personalities' best choice of activities, emotions and 
thoughts. But if I understand what you are saying it seems like you would suggest aligning at an 
even "higher" level.
I had always interpreted my Higher Self as my I AM Presence, is this your interpretation 
also? (In my understanding this would be the point at which I was separated from GOD as a 
Christed Being) I am not aware of there being any other level in between these. In your 
interpretation, am I leaving out a few levels or misinterpreting what you believe to be true?
I find the discussion thought provoking, not just on the topic per se but in the associated 
thoughts it stimulates. It's much better than a cup of coffee in the morning to get you going!
Thanks.
Darlene

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-21/7729
From: Dehara
Subject: OT - Rick Audette's Web site
Greetings All,
I really enjoy reading all your posts and especially appreciate the opportunity to visit your 
homes on the web when available. One of those web sites I first wanted to check out belongs to 
Rick. However, I've not been able to get past all the cookies. They won't stop, I keep clicking yes, 
I'll accept but they don't receive my answer. It's like . . . time stops, and all screen functions 
freeze up. I can feel the brilliance of your aura, Rick, and even see its cover of Lavender-hiding 
behind the cookie. Purple is my color of choice (see member info for Spirit).
I believe you've probably got something there I need to see. That's usually the way it is 
sometimes when there's a lesson I need to learn. Sometimes the Universe makes me get real 
direct and ask for it! Has anyone else had trouble getting past the "cookie." Rick, if you've got any 
solutions, I would really appreciate hearing from you.
LL & J,
Dehara Moonstar aka Judith Neel

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-21/7730
From: Paul Yu
Subject: Re: OT Being and becoming
Hi Darlene and everyone,
Both soul and spirit can be referred to as higher self. In most cases it is the soul that we 
contact for guidance. The spirit is not contacted except by the more advanced disciples.
I am not speaking in terms of the highest point of daily contact. I am speaking of being as the 
highest point in humanity. Technically, monad is the highest point we are capable of contacting 
during the latter part of our living on earth. In this context spirit is the executive by whose 
intelligent activity differentiation and individualization is actualized by lower level capabilities 
where the soul is found.
I don't know where to place your I Am presence because I don't know how you define it.
Thank you for your interest and response, Darlene.
Paul Yu
SpiritualityABC
SpiritualityESOTERIC
http://onelist.com

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-21/7731
From: Mark D Williams
Subject: OT: Archives
Hello all,
I just checked SpiritWeb's Keys of Knowledge Archives (again) and it is still under 
construction. I believe Rick also mentioned something to that effect a few days ago. SpiritWeb, as 
most of you probably know, recently underwent a website redesign. This explains why your old 
bookmarks to SpiritWeb's Keys Archives no longer function.
For your information, Marylin, Keith and I had responded to JJ's post about a Historian 
position and are working on editing all of the posts in SpiritWeb's Keys Archives (We are soon 
approaching the 1 yr anniversary.) into an easily readable form. This mainly includes eliminating 
duplication and extraneous HTML, etc., that you often see in the digests you receive in your 
email.
The first three weeks of the "New and Improved" Archives are finished and are located at:
http://members.xoom.com/keysarchive/
There are also some links there to other keys-related sites. This is a slow process so please 
be patient as we work to get more material edited and on the web. I might add a request (OK, I 
am begging here.) to think about how much material you quote and to please try, in responding to 
other's posts, to quote only what is necessary.
Samu had also initiated some time ago an Archives that contains only JJ's posts to the list. 
This is located
at: http://www.dlc.fi/~samu3/JJArchives/
So if there are people out there that would like to read more and "catch up" as well. These 
two URLs would be a place to start, especially until SpiritWeb's Archives are back online.
LL&P, Mark

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-21/7732
From: "* Zia"
Subject: Re: OT Being and becoming
Greetings to All, and hello Paul.
This does make sense to me, we strive so hard for perfection and already are of course... it 
is the removing of the veil of imperfection... to this wonderful discovery!!
For me this is a matter of identity. What do I choose to identify with, the God 
being/soul/spirit/source wow there are now so many terms for IT, or the thought of imperfection in 
the human mind consciousness?
When I keep my focus on God, God does indeed become my reality. When I keep my focus 
on imperfections... these imperfections certainly do become my reality. In choosing to identify with 
the Christ, Christ/Consciousness/ God... and holding my focus there, that becomes my reality, 
and always was, even though I might have been looking in a different direction!!
In love and laughter, ZIA

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-21/7733
From: Jean
Subject: Re: OT Being and becoming
I would like to add my 2 cents on all of this response. To make it simpler I always thought, 
and may be i am wrong in saying this that here is a easier way to understand "becoming".... 
Been.......would be the past
Being.......Is the here and now who we are Becoming........(ah) I love that word that is who 
we are striving to be, what we are learning in our "being" state....It is exactly what the word 
means...becoming the future...
The past, present and future
Been, being and BECOMING
Jean

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-21/7734
From: Jean
Subject: Becoming....
Dear keysters,
I thought up a question for each of you to answer.......if you like on becoming. I think it would 
start a wonderful discussion and maybe help others on the list understand becoming more. 
Here it goes:
In your life , think back on the past, the present and ponder in what ways have you become? 
I would love to hear thoughts on this...
My included homepage:
http://community.webtv.net/Timber-roo/TheSandsOfTime

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-22/7735
From: J J Dewey
Subject: Sending Love
My Friends,
We are taking off for a few days. It will probably be Tuesday before I post again. I hope Spirit 
Web is back to normal when I return and hat you have many fascinating posts to read.
Glenys's friend Rangi has taken another turn for the worse and I'm sure she would 
appreciate your thoughts and prayers.
Laura asks: "In JJ's book, there is a sharp contrast between those who follow the light 
(Becomers) and those who follow the dark (Be-ers). But I would think that even in following the 
path of the dark, there would be a process of becoming darker."
"So wouldn't they also be Becoming?"
Actually there are three paths in the overall picture. The path of Becoming which all of us are 
on who incarnated on this earth and are moving forward in any degree.
The second path (technically a non path) is the path of Being. This state is realized and 
incorporated with Becoming for disciples.
However the state of Being with no Becoming is had by those who did not decide to 
incarnate. These entities just are and will not have the opportunity to Become for another eternity.
The third path is followed by the Dark Brothers. Even though they may teach many concepts 
borrowed from the Brotherhood of light and also many false concepts that does not even apply to 
them, their path is actually the opposite of Becoming. This opposite path is not Being, but could 
be called "unbecoming" or perhaps an "unraveling." That individual identity that they are, that has 
been in the building stages for millions of years is becoming unraveled and disintegrating back to 
the Source because of their total rejection of the light.
Without a thread to their Soul the life begins to go out until they become an empty shell and 
dissolve back to their native element.
But even with this tragedy all is not lost. Billions of years hence a new attempt will be made 
to rebuild the failed reflection until finally the glory of God will be made manifest. By that time, 
however, his old friends will have progressed far beyond him and they will never associate on the 
same level again in this eternity.
Fortunately, few ever progress this far along the dark path. The pain and darkness 
encountered usually makes them turn around before the path of destruction is reached.
Zia asks about an apparent conflict.
The eighth Principle of Synthesis reads:
8. We affirm that the power of Love is the greatest unifying principle and send only the pure Love 
of Christ/God to all.
Also the Song sends "light and love and power to ALL the sons and daughters of mankind."
Yet I have taught that it can be hazardous to single out an individual of low vibration to send 
love to.
Actually this is not a contradiction
Sending love to ALL or the whole body of humanity is a much different thing than singling out 
a single person. When love is sent to all and hate to none you are then sending to humanity as if 
it were one great life form. This is like sending love to your entire body instead of individual cells.
Sending love to specific individuals can create a number of problems, the most prominent of 
which is the interference of free will. If we are talking about spiritual love here there are many 
people who are not prepared to receive it and do not wish to have it sent to them.
When love is sent to ALL or the body of humanity, each can tap into the love energy that is 
fitted to his own consciousness and free will is not upset. But sending one's own version of Love 
to one who does not desire it is like force feeding a friend peas for his own good even though he 
may hate peas.
A disciple can discern through the soul who is ready to receive the love he has to offer and it 
will flow naturally through a sense of giving and receiving.
If the disciple comes across one who does not chose to receive love he will not send it, just 
as Jesus did not send it to the Pharisees. But neither will the disciple send hate, bitterness or any 
other negative feeling. Instead, he will stand in the center of peace and harmlessness and make 
his love available if it should be desired.
Another reason that we need to use discernment is that there are numerous ways that we as 
humans interpret what love is. I have had people tell me they love me and will pray for me when 
in reality I have felt waves of hate coming from them.
Other times I have felt the energy of well meaning people sending their version of love to me 
and have found it quite annoying, for the love was sent for the purpose of changing my mind 
which I did not want to change.
Then there have been times that love naturally flowed when I was willing to give or receive 
and the experience was heavenly.
If a person of high vibration sends love to one of lower vibration the lower will pick it up all 
right, but by the time it filters through his solar plexus the love will be transmuted to selfish desire 
which is his way of seeing love.
Let me quote from a previous article:
"If we send Light and Love to anyone on the dark path or of a low vibration, or someone who 
will use power contrary to the good of the whole then the Light and Love we send will be 
transmuted to the lower centers and all we will do is energize the lower desires of these people. 
"Many Light Workers at the beginning of World War II made the mistake of sending Light and 
Love to Hitler and it only had the effect of energizing his lower self rather than making him more 
sensitive to the needs of others. "The world would have been much better served if they had sent 
the positive energy to others in Germany who may be more receptive. If the energy was sent to 
Romel, Stauffenberg and others who were just men seeking to overthrow Hitler the war may have 
ended sooner."
Conclusion:
It is always safe to send Love to all of humanity or a large number of people because there 
will always be a number of people who are happy to receive it of their own free will.
We should send love to individuals who desire it of us or when we are moved upon by the 
inner self. We should send hate to none, wish peace to all and make love available to all who 
wish to receive and be edified.

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-22/7736
From: Marylin
Subject: Re: OT Being and becoming
Paul Yu wrote: "If we knew we are being, becoming would begin to make sense."
Hi Paul
For myself, I am a being who has chosen to become. It does make a great deal of sense.
Love, Light, Peace and Harmony
Marylin

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-22/7737
From: Marylin
Subject: Re: OT Being and becoming
Paul Yu writes: "I am not speaking in terms of the highest point of daily contact. I am 
speaking of being as the highest point in humanity. Technically, monad is the highest point we 
are capable of contacting during the latter part of our living on earth. In this context spirit is the 
executive by whose intelligent activity differentiation and individualization is actualized by lower 
level capabilities where the soul is found."
Hi Paul and all
I have read all of this with great interest and while doing so, I suddenly saw a chess board. 
That reminded me of when my Dad told me that the object of the game is to capture the KING. 
Chess can be brutal or it can be benign, but the object doesn't change.
Please, no one take offense at this as it isn't meant offend, but I see an amusing stage play 
in our very sincere efforts to reach our goal "of becoming". With each move, we learn and little 
more and a little more. "Small steps, Ellie, small steps."
Sometimes I think I can hear the Hosts of Heaven laughing with loving glee.
Love, Light, Peace and Harmony
Marylin 

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-22/7738
From: Paul Yu
Subject: Re: OT Being and becoming
Hi Marylin,
Stage play or chess game is a great metaphor for becoming, something seemingly serious 
but temporarily truly exciting and amusing. Once one of a series of plays or games is over we 
sigh a sigh of relief and smile. After a little break we go on to another session of a similar but 
different becoming. No wonder why you hear the Hosts of Heaven laughing with loving glee, 
Marylin, you the sincere seeker of light, love, peace and harmony.
Paul Yu
SpiritualityABC
SpiritualityESOTERIC
http://onelist.com

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-22/7739
From: Paul Yu
Subject: Re: OT Being and becoming II
Hi everyone,
There is nothing but being in all of the universe. The Dark Brothers cannot but be being as 
well. The word Brothers is very telling. They are as much of the universal family as the White 
Brothers. What difference does a number make in the face of infinity? No matter how long the 
stage play takes to end there is an ending at some point in time, time the man-made concept and 
illusion which is no more real to being than a bubble in the air however big it may be.
Both the White and Dark Brothers are part of the becoming of the one being who cannot but 
manifest in terms of duality.
Paul Yu
SpiritualityABC
SpiritualityESOTERIC
http://onelist.com

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-22/7740
From: Laura
Subject: OT Being and becoming : The Sequel
Okay this is going to be my last post on this subject.
Not only does what you're saying fly in the face of what has been taught on this list and in 
the book, but it doesn't sit well with my soul. I feel uneasy when I read this, and something deep 
inside tells me it is incorrect. I have learned to trust this inner voice and have come to the 
conclusion that trying to continue arguing my point will do no good here and will only serve in 
frustrating me:) I don't like to be frustrated, and as much as I like an intelligent conversation, I will 
not be a part of this any more!
And might I make a note? You refer to the "White and Dark Brothers", and note that the word 
Brothers is very telling. Well, yes it would be very telling if they were both actually called brothers. 
They're not. In the references I've seen the Dark Brothers are always the Dark Brothers. The 
Light has been referred to as the "Brotherhood of Light" or the "Great White Brotherhood" (GWB).
There is a world of difference in these meanings. Brothers denotes a family, related by 
blood. They may not like each other, but they work together out of respect for their own purpose. 
Brotherhood denotes a Unity of Purpose, a group of people gathered together with the same 
Vision. In other words - Brothers denotes collective separation, and Brotherhood denotes Unity. 
There is a difference, and a huge one at that.
For those on the list who may feel that this post is a little rough around the edges, please 
accept my apologies. I've been a bit cattish lately, and hopefully some Mydol will help *chuckle*.
All for Truth and Truth for All,
Laura

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-22/7741
From: "Hardin, Jennifer"
Subject: RE: OT Being and becoming : The Sequel
I loved this! ! ! Thank you SO MUCH for saying what I've been feeling. Yes I'm a lurker for 
the most part. Mostly because I just don't have the guts to verbally slap some of these people 
upside their heads.
I truly love the teaching that Mr. Dewey is sharing with us. I usually feel like he's made me 
remember something that I've always known but just forgot for a while. "Like I haven't thought of 
that in years."
But I don't usually participate in the conversations among the keysters because I honestly 
don't' feel that my opinion would be that easily welcomed. I'm fabulous in person. Not always that 
great in email. And people who bicker drive me right up the wall.
It's early I'm rambling. Just know that I'm right behind you Laura.
Smooches All. Don't hate the lurkers. I'm going back into my corner to just listen again.

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-22/7742
From: Paul Yu 
Subject: Re: OT Being and becoming : The Sequel
Hi Laura,
I respect your feelings, Laura. I didn't intend to offend or confuse anyone. I was trying to say 
that if heads and tails were not transcended and then perceived as one coin they kept being 
separated in our thought or belief, and if our thoughts or beliefs were consciously separated we 
would not be at one with ourself in consciousness and we would not be at one with being in 
consciousness. That would be indeed a situation of darkness whether we were aware of it or not. 
Light, love and power are only where oneness is. There is only one kingdom and not two with one 
white and one dark except in a metaphorical sense.

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-22/7743
From: Lorraine Deckard
Subject: human becomings
I have been me all of my life. Although I am still me I am a different me than I was at 20. I 
would not make the same choices or decisions. If someone thinks he knows me well then doesn't 
see for 10 years, does he still know me? No, because I have become someone else. I have 
changed, grown, developed, become more then he knew about. I am a human becoming and if a 
person doesn't keep up with all the changes, ie stay current and involved in my life, he will not 
know me anymore. Another argument for we are humans becoming. Are you the same person in 
thought and choice that you were 10 years ago? last year? Last week? I change all the time. The 
most one could hope for is that my basic nature would not change and my heart and soul is good.

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-22/7744
From: Xavier
Subject: Re: OT Being and becoming II
hi all;-) the arguer is back;-) lol
Paul Yu writes: "There is nothing but being in all of the universe. The Dark Brothers cannot but be 
being as well. The word Brothers is very telling. They are as much of the universal family as the 
White Brothers. What difference does a number make in the face of infinity?"
what number;-) ?
"No matter how long the stage play takes to end there is an ending at some point in time,"
the time it takes for a dark bro to get destroyed? Ah okay, the time it takes for him to have 
another chance to become. Well, i guess that when it comes to that point, the said guy is a 
demon, maybe of a unique element. A human being is composed of the four elements PLUS the 
akasha, the primordial and divine element. So he has lost everything of his divine part, plus 3 
quarters of his form part. Not bright.
Of course, for a physical body to become food for worms is still life... isn't it? AND in the 
grand scheme of things, etc...
The bros of light (mind you, not their left hand brothers) teach that there is only one essence 
int he whole universe, so an atom is of the same divine and respectable stuff as a solar system is. 
A criminal and a saint, etc.. a worm and a (wo)man. (but etc..)
"time the man-made concept and illusion which is no more real to being than a bubble in the 
air however big it may be."
time is illusion? So they say. But it cant be truly said in english, or any language;-) It cant be 
thought, with separative thought or formally consciousness of any kind. Just acknowledged, but 
not seen, except in the "formless worlds".
So as long as we use our minds and bodies, lets not mix time with no-time, it don't make 
sense IMO. It helps illusion.
I know that to you, it serves to convey ideas. I just don't enter these ideas anymore. It's good 
to go beyond duality in thought, but only when it helps getting nearer to truth.. Sometimes it does 
not.
"Both the White and Dark Brothers are part of the becoming of the one being who cannot but 
manifest in terms of duality."
I understand that the dark bros are very useful. That's why i appreciated your post and 
wasn't annoyed by it.

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-22/7745
From: Paul Yu
Subject: Re: OT Being and becoming II
Xavier wrote: "the arguer is back;-) lol"
Paul Yu
There is nothing but being in all of the universe. The Dark Brothers cannot but be being as 
well. The word Brothers is very telling. They are as much of the universal family as the White 
Brothers. What difference does a number make in the face of infinity?
Xavier
"what number;-) ?"
Paul Yu:
Any number, the biggest number you can think of. There is no waste of time in eternity.
Xavier
No matter how long the stage play takes to end there is an ending at some point in time, the 
time it takes for a dark bro to get destroyed? Ah okay, the time it takes for him to have another 
chance to become. Well, i guess that when it comes to that point, the said guy is a demon, maybe 
of a unique element. A human being is composed of the four elements PLUS the akasha, the 
primordial and divine element. So he has lost everything of his divine part, plus 3 quarters of his 
form part. Not bright."
Paul Yu:
How can anything lose beingness or the divine element? Can being be separated? Or 
become nothing? When a being lost everything but the divine part it returned to beingness, one 
with the source whence all beings came. Destruction of forms can only concern the cyclic, hence 
temporary, manifestation. Divine life can never be destroyed or even altered in any way.
Xavier
Of course, for a physical body to become food for worms is still life... isn't it? AND in the 
grand scheme of things, etc...
Paul Yu:
Yes, life remains whatever happened to the form and once again life or being as opposed to 
becoming is all we talk about.
Xavier
The bros of light (mind you, not their left hand brothers) teach that there is only one essence 
int he whole universe, so an atom is of the same divine and respectable stuff as a solar system is. 
A criminal and a saint, etc.. a worm and a (wo)man. (but etc..)
Paul Yu:
Yes, beingness or the divine element is the same throughout the whole of creation, whether 
a saint or a criminal, a White Brother or a Dark Brother.
Xavier
time the man-made concept and illusion which is no more real to being than a bubble in the 
air however big it may be.time is illusion? So they say. But it cant be truly said in English or any 
language;-) It cant be thought, with separative thought or formally consciousness of any kind. Just 
acknowledged, but not seen, except in the "formless worlds".
Paul Yu:
All concepts are separate and illusory the concept of time included. Intuition of duration 
however would be timelessness.
Xavier
So as long as we use our minds and bodies, lets not mix time with no-time, it dont make 
sense IMO. It helps illusion.
Paul Yu:
We use mind and concepts to express being and anything that is not separated as well as 
becoming and anything that is thought of as separated. Our mind serves two different functions: 
One has to do with time and the other with no-time.
Xavier
I know that to you, it serves to convey ideas. I just dont enter these ideas anymore. It's good 
to go beyond duality in thought, but only when it helps getting nearer to truth.. Sometimes it does 
not.
Paul Yu:
Ideas cannot be avoided at all. Whenever we think we create ideas. We cannot think without 
ideas. Everything in our personality serves a purpose including ideas.
Truth lies in oneness. The soul is the principle of oneness as far as the personality is 
concerned. Awakening and enlightenment all have to do with awareness of oneness. Duality, no, 
separate duality is where we are. Our goal is to fly to oneness, where there is neither white nor 
dark.
Xavier
Both the White and Dark Brothers are part of the becoming of the one being who cannot but 
manifest in terms of duality. I understand that the dark bros are very useful. That's why i 
appreciated your post and wasn't annoyed by it.
Paul Yu:
Dark Brothers are part of the evolutional drama without which there would be no show. 
Everyone is partly white and partly dark regardless of what they think they are or what they wish 
to be. That is why Jesus warns not to judge so as not to be judged. To be more white or more 
dark is just a question of more or less. It has nothing to do with being, which all beings are.
Paul Yu
SpiritualityABC
SpiritualityESOTERIC
http://onelist.com

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-23/7746
From: Marylin
Subject: Re: Becoming....
Jean writes: "In your life , think back on the past, the present and ponder in what ways have 
you become? I would love to hear thoughts on this..."
Hi all
Interesting question. For myself, I came into this life a seeker of truth. I didn't realize it at first 
but when things came to a head, so to speak, I began consciously and earnestly to find the 
ultimate truth. Not man's truth but God's truth. Now I can truly say, "I am becoming that I am 
becoming."
Love, Light, Peace and Harmony
Marylin

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-23/7747
From: Rick Audette
Subject: Re: Becoming....
I look back on my life, to the start of adulthood, where my vision and mission was recorded 
in the songs I wrote. One of them was about the kind of man I wanted to become. It's been a 
lifelong goal and I see that, as I trace back to the present, the becoming has been steadily 
speeding up. In a few more days, I and a handful of others will have been Keysters for one year. 
WOW, I have truly grown since the start of this list.
Here's that old song, that keeps getting newer all the time.
I HAVE A FRIEND
I have a friend I think you'd like him
If you could see him like I do
He holds his head up, when he's talking
The kind of man who sees things thru
***
And he doesn't seem too bothered, 
when his feet get in hot water
He just grabs a bar of soap
And takes a bath
***
He knows all things revolve around him
And likewise he around them
He's the master of his fate
For which he's thankful
To the Masters that he serves in return
***
And everyone that knows him
Says there's a light that's a glowin'
Through him and everything
That he touches
***
I'd like to be more like he is
Doing the things he can do
I'd hold my head up when I'm walking
You'd see my light come shining through
***
And one day, wait and see
That man inside of me
Will come and claim his throne
Like he ought to
***
Rick
--
ICQ 19753992
visit my web pages at http://www.ont.com/users/rea1/
have you read "The Immortal" http://www.freeread.com

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-23/7748
From: Marylin
Subject: Re: Becoming....
Hi Rick
Your song is absolutely beautiful. And so now you "shine" all over the place. Wonderful.
Love, Light, Peace and Harmony
Marylin

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-23/7749
From: Jean
Subject: Re: Becoming....
Wonderul response Marylin, thank you. I think that is where it begins.
My included homepage:
http://community.webtv.net/Timber-roo/TheSandsOfTime

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-23/7750
From: Jean
Subject: Re: Becoming....
DEar Rick,
That is a wonderful song! Truly beautiful my friend! I can remember when I was in high 
school, I wrote songs as well pertaining to my "search for truth" it always helped to put my 
feelings on paper. Thank you for sharing that with us.

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-24/7751
From: "Pam Oliver"
Subject: Re: Digest No. 1999-10-23 of The Keys of Knowledge List
The war between the dark and the light forces finished billions of years ago and there has 
been a form of "cold war" since. We have been programmed in fear to think that the war has 
continued. Between 11th and 24th September 1978 there was a meeting and eventually a peace 
agreement between the dark and the light. Lord Satan is now a close brother and friend of Lord 
Sananda, they work together in harmony and peace in the fifth dimension. Satan has a very high 
vibration and peaceful energy.
I have been so busy recently that I haven't read the postings and have only skimmed 
through yesterdays. However yesterday the above information was revealed to me, I am in 
"shock" at how relevant it all is.
Glenys, I had hoped that we could have met for coffee this long weekend but I am sorry to 
hear that Rangi is not good and I will not contact you as she needs all your energy. Love to you 
both and every one who is also praying for Rangi.
Pam

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-24/7752
From: "John Wayne Kline"
Subject: THE PROBLEM WITH THIS LIST!!!
It is never my intention to offend anyone, yet as of late I have become increasing concerned 
about the state of this list. I came to this list after reading the Immortal. Before ever making a post 
I read every article that JJ Dewey had posted, and those numbered in excess of five-hundred at 
the time. I could have joined many of the New Age Lists on Spirit Web, but none of them were of 
any interest to me. I was not interested in what 10,000 different people were channeling 
supposedly from the Masters. Having been a Life Long Mystic, and Serious Seeker of the Light, I 
passed by all of them, and joined this list solely because of JJ Dewey.
Why, for the simple reason that it's purpose was to expand the teachings of JJ Dewey, and I 
came here to learn, continue to grow, and serve. Before accepting any teachings I always put 
them to the test of the Fire of my own Soul, and only then do I pursue any teaching further. I take 
all these channeled messages with a grain of Salt, for the simple reason that is the direction I 
receive from my Soul.
I have a number of my own forums, one of which concerns Spirituality, and I have been 
involved with several other Forums in the past. On one of these, several people from the Extreme 
Christian Right, made it their business to make life as difficult as possible for me, because the 
Forum was drawing 75,000 hits a month. They even went as far as complaining to Advertisers in 
a small community to withdraw advertising in an attempt to stop my articles. The Forum was 
closed by the owner of the Server. I had my own up within twelve hours, on a free Server, and 
donated it to the Citizens of the County, and dedicated it to Freedom of Expression, and Speech.
Recently I started a small Forum, and named in Honor of JJ Dewey, the Spiritual Art of 
Becoming. I made it quite clear on my other Forums that although I was a staunch supporter of 
the Right to Free Speech, and Expression, considering past history, I would delete any post that 
tried to repeat the Asinine History of those past Forums. I made it clear that I owned this Forum, 
and to direct any complaints directly to me. If they didn't like, or agree with my articles, to put up 
there own, and stay off mine. I would not tolerate their disruptions.
Now back to this list. Spirit Web has made things very difficult lately. When I could go to the 
archives, I could see the author of a post, and choose to automatically delete it. That is not 
possible now, and I find myself at least reading the first line of every post.
For some time now, one individual seems to be making it his life's ambition, mission, and 
favorite pass time, to try to undermine the teachings this list was set up to expand upon. This man 
has his own list yet he comes to this one, and spends all of his time in an blatant attempt to 
undermine the teachings of JJ Dewey, or to some how prove, usually by the most Asinine means 
I have ever witnessed, to prove JJ Dewey wrong.
I will give him credit in one respect, and area though. I have never in my life seen a human 
being use so many words, and yet say nothing of any consequence, or importance. If he isn't in 
Politics he certainly missed his calling. He brings to mind an Ancient Adage of the Brotherhood of 
Light, a Wise Man Doubteth Often, and Changeth his Mind, a Fool Knoweth All Things but his 
Own Ignorance.
This man attempts to teach a worn out, and much misunderstood Theory, which is 
responsible for leaving seventy-five percent of the Worlds Population, in a state of Ignorance, 
Starvation, and Privation. By following this teaching they have failed to keep up with the World in 
general, they Suffer, and Die needlessly from every malady, and malaise known to civilized man. 
Children Suffer, and Die from Hunger, and lack of adequate Medical Attention every minute in 
these countries, for no justifiable reason, other than the Darkness of Ignorance, and Want.
For thousands of years they have been taught by their Priesthood's, and Governments that it 
is Holy, and God's Will to just Be. Have you ever compared running water, to a still pool? Is there 
any question in your mind why the still water is stagnant, covered in green slime, and putrid? If 
the Creator had remained in a State of Just Being, there wouldn't be a Universe, in the first place. 
Yes there is a point of non movement in everything, yet there is also motion to balance that state.
So Paul if you, and a few of your cronies can't accept the teachings of JJ Dewey, why don't 
you just teach your own Philosophy, on your own List, and cease being a disturbing force on this 
one. I'm beginning to see you more, and more as a tool of the Dark Brothers everyday.
Please out of common courtesy allow those of us who are here to learn, grow, and serve, to 
continue in the way that we have chosen, and I assure you that we will not come over to your list, 
and disturb your teachings.
To those of you that are truly here to learn, grow, and serve I apologize for having to do this, 
but someone had too!
So let us lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way!
SHYAMA

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-24/7753
From: Brian Weis
Subject: Re: THE PROBLEM WITH THIS LIST!!!
A simple "amen" just seems so inadequate, but it is all I have to offer at this time. My jaw has 
dropped, my eyes stare in amazement as I read someone else's words that so closely mirror 
what has long stirred in my own soul.
Thank you for this post. I know not everyone on this list will be so happy to read your words, 
but I also know that MANY of us are extremely grateful for them.
~B.

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-24/7754
From: Bev Salzman
Subject: Re: THE PROBLEM WITH THIS LIST!!!
SHYAMA,
Choices we make bring harmony, or not! Reading only JJ's post might relieve some stress.
With loving intent,
BJ

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-24/7755
From: "Anni West"
Subject: THE PROBLEM WITH THIS LIST!!!
Hi John, Paul and all,
Thank you, John, for expressing many of my own feelings - and for bringing this out in the 
open. I am also here to learn from JJ, because that is my choice, and I do not need or want 
another teacher on this list. Paul, I welcome discussions but I think you are lecturing not 
discussing. If you already have another list, please tell the name of it, and the keysters who want 
you as a teacher together with JJ can join your list as well. If you want to stay here as a student 
and servant and learn from JJ, I welcome you. If not, please go and teach on your own list.
Just my opinion.
Love to you all
Anni

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-24/7756
From: Xavier
Subject: Re: THE PROBLEM WITH THIS LIST!!!
Oh;-)
I don't choose any side on this. I am annoyed by Paul's posts, because he always tries to 
show an alternate view that sounds more like an automatic "against" view than anything. But 
when I, or some others, argue with him, I like his answers. The way he answers, I mean, humanly 
I appreciate his answers much. I guess it is emotional, I appreciate his emotional nature? Really 
no judgment, nor critic, nor closedness.
Now I don't mean that you , John, are doing this, because I know very well that when one 
sees a light that others don't seem to see, very often the best move is a straight and cutting one, 
a provocative one. So I sure am not offended by your move. Yet I wonder what it will give on list.
May you, John, be supported by the light, in the measure that your move is right. And may 
Paul be supported also, according to the justice and usefulness of his interventions. And please 
everybody, dont begin to climb to the curtains. John is not trying to assassinate anyone, he is 
listening to his soul.
I guess that as usual, Paul might be the less offended of the ones who disagree the 
apparent offender.
Also, I'm conscious that I don't see things mentally, I much more feel them, astrally. So I 
guess there are many things that I don't see.

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-21/7757
From: Rick Audette
Subject: Latest List
Spiritweb will not be listing the members of their lists anymore. The lists that I have been 
posting are, or had been amended accordingly. Now, I have no way of knowing who is subscribed 
to the Keys of Knowledge. So, for us to come together, as one, we have to speak up. We won't 
know you are out there, unless you speak up and post something, now and again. When I say the 
song, I picture all the Keysters saying it with me. Through their frequent posts and pictures on 
Samu's site and internet phone conversations and ICQ chats, I have grown close to many of my 
brothers and sisters. If the newbees or the lurkers would like a share, in this community, it starts 
when you jump in with an introduction and give us your thoughts on the current topic. Don't worry 
about fitting in, the rest of the Keysters will make you feel right at home. If you have questions 
about things that have already been discussed here, one of our angels will direct you to the 
archives on the subject. Don't worry that your lifestyle doesn't fit. We've got some of everything 
under the sun growing here. Don't worry about asking "dumb" questions. The only dumb question 
is the one you forgot to ask. Even some of our brightest posters have their blond moments, now 
and then. It keeps things real and alive.
Those that post know what a stimulating party they have joined. Many are called, but a few 
choose to join as One, by declaring themselves. Let us know you are out there. Talk to us. The 
archives will be back soon, at Spiritweb. Hopefully, we'll get them all transcribed soon and have 
our own backup. Early archives are available at
http://members.xoom.com/keysarchive/
the New Jerusalem meditation is at
http://members.xoom.com/keysarchive/nj.html
Archive of JJ's posts are at
http://www.dlc.fi/~samu3/JJArchives.html
And the Keysters family photo album is at
http://www.dlc.fi/~samu3/KeystersPhotoAlbum.html
Send Samu a picture, if you have one to share.
Hugs,
Rick
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visit my web pages at http://www.ont.com/users/rea1/
have you read "The Immortal" http://www.freeread.com

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-24/7758
From: Xavier
Subject: (OT and LONG) Re: Digest No. 1999-10-23 of The Keys of Knowledge List
Pam Oliver writes: "The war between the dark and the light forces finished billions of years 
ago and there has been a form of "cold war" since. We have been programmed in fear to think 
that the war has continued. Between 11th and 24th September 1978 there was a meeting and 
eventually a peace agreement between the dark and the light. Lord Satan is now a close brother 
and friend of Lord Sananda, they work together in harmony and peace in the fifth dimension. 
Satan has a very high vibration and peaceful energy. I have been so busy recently that I haven't 
read the postings and have only skimmed through yesterdays. However yesterday the above 
information was revealed to me, I am in "shock" at how relevant it all is."
When I read new age so called channelings, I always figure a nice relatively low astral entity 
fooling the receivers. It is so easier to listen to bullshit like "you're the love, just flow, we're coming 
to the shit dimension.." (sorry for my bad words;-)lol
I entered esotericism with new age, but I soon found more serious stuff: Blavatsky, Bailey, 
and finally Bardon. There, you're not told that "all you need to do is rest, and take away your 
fears, and give your ass to the light" no sir, no sister, no friends. The Path is "the hardest there is" 
"the sufferings are tremendously great" etc... "only the purest service counts, the true 
impersonnal motives" ABNEGATION is another key word, not cherishing your self through 
meditation that takes you away from true service, that is hard toil.
And so on. The quote from the first page of every AABailey's books is nice, thanks JJ for 
quoting it the other day
"i am one" (this is from memory) "who has wrestled and fought his way to more light than the 
aspirant who reads these lines, therefore my responsibility is to do all that i can to .." etc..sacrifice 
is still a reality, though it is the key word of pisces, and we (christians) made excess of it.
Now, to the topic. I met new age teachers, and my conclusion is: they are gently used by the 
dark side.
Simply the ascension topic. The true teaching is: ascension will eventually come, yes, but 
through transfiguration, crucifixion, resurrection, etc.. Do never think that this all comes by floating 
like a fool.
It is NOT because a meditation gives good energies that it is a link to the light. The 
Sorcerers do give good energy to the fools they enslave, yes you receive good vibes, but you 
also lose your discernment, morals, and sharpness as a rule.
So I always see it that way. There is the teaching of the brotherhood. What do demons do? 
OR more simply, parasiting entities? They copy it, and say whatever along that line that satisfies 
the listener.
So, from ascension through crucifixion, and resurrection, what do they do? Ascension 
becomes a continuous process. Of course they chose ascension, see, why didn't they choose 
cruci? because it hurts like hell. Ascension is a good movie to forget your aim in life.
Remember? the fourth initiation is named crucifixion, why? Because the student loses 
everything, worldly AND spiritual. He loses completely his contact with the higher worlds, and at 
the same time (s)he is awfully persecuted by the world around him(her).
Reread all sacred texts, and the best parts of them. Nowhere is it stated that the way is 
painless, death may be painless, but not life. What happens is that the gain is bigger than the 
pain, but this is transmutation and purification. You ache somewhere, but you grow somewhere 
else, in a much more valuable spot.
So..sorry for the length. what happens next, once the entities have pirated the students with 
that bullshit teaching? Slowly it drifts towards Satan. Slowly, you introduce notions that are 
always more ego oriented. This is the way it works, illusion grows like a plant. And in the end, you 
get Satan worshippers, or at least, you have people be completely useless for the light.
So Yes, "Sananda (do they fear the name JEsus Christ? Oh yes;-) and Satan have 
concluded a pact" (how nice). And then, you want to know the sequel? Because some groups 
have already gone some steps further. "Satan is a light being. But these earth beings are limited. 
So we get to ETs", (of the 46th dimension above i forgot what, in the "school" I was in;-) (now 
don't I imagine I was fooled. I always kept my references, like Bardon, as my priority. I tried to 
learn in this group, and to teach also, aren't we responsible?)
And these ETs are always more hazy...no matter, no teaching, no sacredness. Basically, 
what you get is an encouragement (an approval) to express your solar plexus, and make a rule of 
it
Happily, when the teacher shows plainly that he is no match for sacredness, it gets clear to 
all, for a time. And what happened? the guy divorced his wife who had built the school with him, 
married a student (the one i was seating aside of, and felt like protecting from him), and months 
later he married another one. Haha. Oh I forgot, both girls were married already when they met 
him. Both divorced to marry the happy "father". Nice guy, btw. "abandonning appearances", says 
he;-))
Well, he may be a good teacher on the psychotherapic thing, but for sacred energies, .. I 
saw him working, he don't touch these, he gets burned. Yet all the while he tries to handle them, 
because he knows that this is where power lies.
Remember, the sacred flame burns all ego, and personal energies. The soul is impersonal. 
Only that part which is submitted and serving the soul can survive. And at each step, another 
layer goes away. MAstership (5th) is "definitely killing the plant of the ego". I know, a strong ego 
is useful. Once sacrificed;-) Anyway, the ego doesn't survive death;-) We only keep the 2 or 3 
highest memories, the ones that enlightened our soul. The rest goes to the garbage pot.

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-24/7759
From: Xavier
Subject: Re: Latest List
Rick Audette writes: "Those that post know what a stimulating party they have joined. Many 
are called, but a few choose to join as One, by declaring themselves. Let us know you are out 
there. Talk to us."
YEs, talking creates a new world, don't resist it. Yet, don't force it either;-)

Post No. keys-l: /1999-10-24/7760
From: Rick Audette
Subject: Re: THE PROBLEM WITH THIS LIST!!!
Children, children!!
Are some viewpoints not allowed here? Nobody can see Heaven, with just one eye. To be 
One with All, you see things through every eye. To decide you need a point and counter point to 
choose from. There are different schools of thought. All of them, eventually, get to the same 
single point, somehow. You must choose your path by weighing all you hear in your heart. When 
you try to take the lessons learned here to the rest of the world, you will come up against many 
forms of counter reasoning. It is good to get some practice here and learn it by heart, before you 
venture forth to teach.
True, this list is designed to be an instrument for JJ's teachings, but interruptions often serve 
to amplify the teachings o