1999 - WEEK 35 Post No. keys-l: /1999-08-30/6442 From: Rick Audette Subject: 10 months Hi All, I was just looking at the archives tonight and noticed that the very first post was sent on Oct. 29, 1998. We are 10 months old now and wow have we covered a lot of ground. Now we are preparing ourselves to form human molecules, with super human powers. Still, some question if they are good enough to be a part of something equal to or better than that molecule that Jesus formed. Somehow, in my heart I know that JJ knows what he is doing and he has told us, as does the Bible, that if we keep our focus, that all things will be given to us. Believe me, if I, Mr. hard knocks himself can get it, anybody can. I already told you all how difficult it is for me to meditate, but with a commitment to getting to NJ, I've started getting glimpses of it. I went looking for my partner, to see about making plans to plant our tree, found myself walking into a room and was greeted by a beautiful woman, but then lost it and found myself back here on my couch. But you can bet I'll be back to find her. Made progress on another front tonight, which I'm kinda proud and embarrassed about. After all this time, I finally memorized the song and can say it all the way through, without peeking at the printout on my desk. Duh, I never was good at remembering the words to songs. It's probably why I write my own songs, easier to remember the words :) Good thing I know the words now. It's hard to hold hands, in a circle, and hold on to song notes at the same time. Well, back to why I started writing this. I just wanted to say thank you to all of you for making the first 10 months such a wonderful experience. Keep up the good work, I love you all, Rick -- ICQ 19753992 visit my web pages at http://www.ont.com/users/rea1/ have you read "The Immortal" http://www.freeread.com A smile is a curved line that sets things straight. Post No. keys-l: /1999-08-30/6443 From: Diane Linen Subject: Re: 10 months Ten months. It doesn't seem that almost a year has passed, Rick. It's been a wonderful journey, hasn't it? Actually I think we've grown a lot in that period. love to you and all too. Diane Post No. keys-l: /1999-08-30/6444 From: Anni West Subject: Re: 10 months Hi keysters, I would like to join you, Rick - thank you, keysters, for a wonderful time with lots of love, learning and laughter. I always felt "different" from most people until I met you guys! This is home! I thank God for being here and ask permission to stay with all of you for a very long time to serve mankind as best I can - maybe by being part of the human molecule - maybe not. It is ok as long as I follow the directions from within. BUT I SURE WANT TO BE PART OF IT (that's my personality speaking - lol) Love and light to all of you Anni Post No. keys-l: /1999-08-30/6445 From: Jean Subject: Fwd: [heart-soul-l] Fw: OPPRESSION Scott Reeves wrote: "The Master always left you to grow at your own pace. He was never known to "push." He explained this with the following parable:" "A man once saw a butterfly struggling to emerge from its cocoon, too slowly for his taste, so he began to blow on it gently. The warmth of his breath speeded up the process all right. But what emerged was not a butterfly but a creature with mangled wings. "In growth," the Master concluded, "you cannot speed the process up. All you can do is abort it." Anthony de Mello, SJ MORSEL: Failure is the condiment that gives success its flavor. --Truman Capote Post No. keys-l: /1999-08-30/6446 From: Jean Subject: Fwd: [heart-soul-l] Fw: OPPRESSION Editor's note: Repeat post of No. 6445 Post No. keys-l: /1999-08-30/6447 From: Marylin Subject: Re: OT my psychotherapy going on + questions John Kosior writes: "I honestly don't know if any of this is what you needed to hear. And again, if I entered the discussion out of context, then please accept my apology. But as we have discovered so many times in the past, sometimes our words meant for one are really needed by another of whom we were not aware. In either case, I hope that these words serve well, those they were meant for." John and Xavier The concerns and comments you have just given to the rest of us are exactly what I have been in need of at this time. My deepest love to both of you. Love, Light, Peace and Harmony Marylin Post No. keys-l: /1999-08-30/6448 From: "Aley" Subject: Re: 10 months Dear Keysters. I have been off line for a considerable amount of time (my computer was hit by lightening (well the building I was in was hit by lightening and the computer took a terrible surge) I had to buy a new (one even with protectors on it) which took awhile to finance :) Back then I was just beginning to understand relationship discussions and now I find we are speaking of molecular discussions (I think) would someone please help me catch up I really need it Thank you Aley. Post No. keys-l: /1999-08-30/6449 From: Richard and Sharon Subject: 10 MONTHS! WOW! Congratulations to us all, with an especially big THANK YOU, Rick. You are responsible for creating a place for growth for so many of us, I was plodding along making some advancement, but i feel this group has given me wings and i thank each and every one of you. It seems the growth of everyone has accelerated and carried everyone else along to greater, deeper understandings. No mere thank you would enough for the emotions i feel for JJ. You have been a teacher for me like no other, you have never set yourself above or beyond me, but simply taught me and told me i could be where your knowledge has taken you. Thank you. I love each and every one of you, sharon Post No. keys-l: /1999-08-30/6450 From: Rick Audette Subject: [maybe OT] pre-molecular powers Again, many thanks to all the keysters for making this such a loving family. Now, I'd like to ask for some help. Many of you remember the disruption caused on list by my ex-wife, last February. Things will come to a head on Sept. 7, when I will go to court to face the assault charge she put on me. She has been the cause of years of suffering for my daughter and me. I can't always perceive auras, but on one occasion did a double take because when I glanced at her I got the distinct impression that she had a black aura. She is the person that the Christ in the center of the circle becomes, in the New Jerusalem meditation, for me. I have forgiven her then as well as countless times in the past, but this typically only results in renewing her strength in being destructive. I have offered her the opportunity to form a truce, in the interest of cooperation for the benefit of our daughter, but she only looks for how she can turn that to her advantage, if I let my guard down thinking the battle is over. I know that we keysters have yet to form a complete human molecule and so lack the power that such would afford, but I strongly feel, in my heart, that if called to action, the lot of us could form a proto-molecule with great power of it's own. Will you join with me to call down light and love and power for all concerned, that so desperately need it. I don't ask this for myself, but rather for my daughter and her mom. There is no need for you to reply in writing, if you join this loose circle, I'm sure the results will be felt. Thank you for considering my prayers, Rick Post No. keys-l: /1999-08-30/6451 From: Richard and Sharon Subject: ((Maybe OT)) Rick, i know you said it wasn't necessary to reply, but something that helped me a lot in learning how to truly love my mother, certainly I forgave her, but i also forgave myself for feeling victimized by her for so long, i was never her victim, but for year's i believed i was, so, for me, forgiving me was a huge step forward, more so than forgiving her. Prayer's are yours, absolutely. sharon Post No. keys-l: /1999-08-30/6452 From: J J Dewey Subject: Lifting Spirits I have received several letters in the past from people who are suffering from depression and self loathing and since there may be others out there who can benefit from my comments I thought I would post my thoughts for all to hear but without mentioning any names. I also invite the rest of you to give helpful comments that I'm sure will be insightful. Here are some quotes from a letter I recently received: "I don't like myself at all, I feel no connection to anyone I know and would find it very easy for me to walk away from anyone and anything if I thought it was necessary..." "It seems that my whole life I've been caught in the "Apathy trap" and I can't seem to figure out exactly how to get out of it. Even when I see where I can improve on myself, I find it very difficult to even try, and in most cases even care. I know I'm more than just flesh and bones, more than what meets the eye, but I find no love within me for me. How am I supposed to love someone else when I can't even love me? Quite often someone will say, "Well snap out of it", "You are what you think you are", "Pray about it, God will help you", and don't forget the most advertised pat answer of all time - - "Don't worry, be happy". Most of the time when someone tells me one of these, I get almost angry at them and think "They don't understand, they don't know what they're talking about, they are full of it", etc etc etc." "I am ONE lonely person who can't seem to even accept Love when it's offered to him, nor receive a compliment without cutting it to shreds. I don't know how to break out of this prison that I'm living in (and I'm sure it's probably mostly my own creation). Mostly all I ever feel is contempt towards most people for one reason or another. I don't know, I feel like this e-mail is probably a waste of time too. But yet I'm also crying out from the depths of my soul for relief from this life of HELL I've been in as long as I can remember. I've never been able to look at a woman without some type of sexual thoughts going through my mind, seeing them mostly (only?) as objects. I have even cut myself off from seeking any types of pleasure (either mind or body) with another person believing that it would only end in disaster anyway, so why try." "I sometimes feel that there isn't a person on earth who can reach me and depression is a very old friend of mine. I've learned to block out everything so well for so long, I no longer know how to stop doing it. Even though I believe that God loves me no matter what, I can't seem to Love me or forgive me for past mistakes. I used to be able to get into meditations at one time in my life, but now, I find it hard to even get started. I'm sure you're probably wondering why I beat myself up so much, and if I'm ever going end this message. So, I guess I'll end here." Depression like this is indeed a fierce item to deal with. If any of us would meet this person we would not guess he is depressed for he seems like a likeable cheerful person who has as much love as the next guy. The thing is that you never know for sure what people are feeling inside until you look deeply. Let's look at what we can do on all levels. The Physical: Drugs are often seen as the only hope but long term use will create more harm than good and can cause much delay in facing the real problem. Nevertheless, if the person is currently on drugs he must be careful about going off of them for a quick change can also create problems. It is interesting that the shooters at Columbine High were on anti depressant drugs. The depressed person should always get a blood sugar test and find out if he has consistent low blood sugar. If he does then read several books on diet for low blood sugar and this will often alleviate much depression. Buy a book on fasting and work yourself up to a week or even ten day fast. If you have not fasted before start with just a day then later try three days and still later a week. One of the best combinations for fasting is to take a pint of purified water and mix in two fresh squeezed lemons with a dash of cayenne pepper and honey added to taste. Drink as much of this combination during the fast that you desire. A week to ten days fasting on this will do much to clean out and purify the system. Once the physical body is cleaned out much of the problem of depression will be lifted. If you find that you have low blood sugar fasting will often be difficult. In this case also take some bee pollen or spirulina during the fast to give you some protein to adjust the blood sugar. If you have not taken bee pollen before you need to first test yourself with a small amount to see if you are allergic to it. Another thing you can do is to take about twenty minutes of aerobic exercises each day. Exercises like running, swimming etc that really work up a sweat release hormones in your system that brings a greater feeling of cheerfulness and peace of mind. One of the main solutions on all levels to this problem is the first key. We must realize that we are Decision and make every effort to magnify this power and create what we decide through the power of Attention. One of the main causes of depression is that we have avoided decisions in our past. Remember the parable in my book where Dave turned hell into heaven? Who were the really depressed ones in the story? It was the two who did not make a decision who stayed behind and never progressed on the path or took the risk required. Do not let fear stop you from making a decision and then putting your attention on it. If you find that your attention is focused much of the time on yourself in a negative way you must shift your attention to other avenues. Place it on your work, loved ones, learning, a hobby etc. Every day arrange your life so that you'll have something to look forward to. This is a little thing, but can be a big help. It can be as simple as a glass of wine at dinner, a good TV show, a movie or a visit with a friend. These things to look forward to will not happen automatically if you are depressed. You must arrange them and place them in your path and when they are crossed focus all your attention on your enjoyment of the moment. On the non physical level one of the greatest causes of depression and apathy is guilt. Guilt is a negative force that focuses Attention on your imperfection and paralyses your power of decision. It is caused by your allowing your attention to be placed on some outside authority who has taken the place of the God within. If God, or the power of God, is seen as existing in some man or influence from without then this entity has power to control you through guilt and thus control you through fear and depression. You take back your power by turning to the Holy Spirit within and letting this be your only final authority. When this happens the chains that hold you bound come undone and you will enter into the joy of the Lord and in this state depression is impossible. Going through the workbook of A Course in Miracles can be quite helpful here in releasing guilt. I could write more but am out of time tonight, but I have faith that there are some of you who can give good additional advice. And concerning sending positive energy for Rick. Rick is open to it but his ex-wife may not be so when you say the Song see the protective energies of Light and Love descending on Rick giving him an increase of power to solve his problem as well as an increase in protection. JJ Post No. keys-l: /1999-08-31/6453 From: Tracey Hobson Subject: Re: Lifting Spirits Thank you so much, JJ, for that right-on e-mail! I am going to try that fasting thing. Lord knows, I've tried everything else. One thing I can suggest, too, is to get off of caffeine and keep refined sugar intake to bare minimum levels (this from a card carrying Coca-Cola addict! - at least I've cut back significantly and mostly drink caffeine free). I hear you loud and clear re: anti-depressants. Been there, done that, and for about 5 minutes (more like 5 months) I thought I knew what "normal" felt like. I thought Prozac was the wonder drug of all time. But it stops working, and I know MANY people who have had this same experience as I. And it may change brain chemistry permanently (at least that is what some are now suggesting) which is an unnerving thought, to say the least. Same with all of the rest of them (Wellbutrin, Zoloft, etc.) and who knows if I may be making my serotonin problems worse over time? I, for one, am not playing lab rat to the pharmaceutical companies in this regard anymore! Exercise definitely helps. What you said about having something to look forward to is so very true as well. Whether it's looking forward to planting flowers after work or catching up on movies or reading or learning something new with regard to yoga or Asian health, these are the things that keep me going. Speaking of Asian health, they believe that "phlegm producing" foods cause a "stuck" feeling leading to depression (for a better explanation, there is an entire section on depression in the book entitled "Asian Health Secrets" by Letha , or Leila, Hadady - I can never remember her first name correctly). I have found it very helpful. Anyway, thank you again JJ. xo, Tracey ----------------------- Tracey Hobson Customer Marketing Altera Corporation 408.544.7149 Post No. keys-l: /1999-08-31/6454 From: J J Dewey Subject: Chapter 22 Continued The Molecule was revived again in the legendary days of Camelot. There was a larger order with numerous knights, a more central one with fifty especially selected by King Arthur and Merlin. This particular number was used to create a vortex of power. The number 50 is symbolic of a peculiar combination of energy pedals in the centers. The base of the spine has 4, plus the 6 of the sacral center, plus 10 of the solar plexus, plus 12 of the heart, plus 16 of the throat, plus the two of the Third Eye equals 50. The union of the fifty energies pave the way for the use of the 1000 pedaled lotus at the top of the head wherein lies the energy of the Will-Power-Purpose of God. Thus, through the symbolic sword of Excalibur, the knights wielded the power of God on the earth. In addition, they had Molecules composed of twelve knights, symbolizing the twelve apostles. Four of these molecules plus Merlin and Arthur created the fifty. It is interesting that my favorite movie of this period, Excalibur, shows twelve males and twelve females gathering around the round Table. The Molecular Order of that period produced tremendous power in Camelot so that none of their enemies could overthrow them. In addition, Camelot was more than a regular city. It was a grand experiment in cooperative living. The Molecule was seriously injured when Guinevere and Lancelot betrayed King Arthur. They provided an important balance of energy that was never completely replaced. Then, after the death of King Arthur, the power of Excalibur, or the Molecule, was lost to the earth somewhere around 570 AD. The Bible gives a prophecy about this event: And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman (the power of the Molecule utilizing female as well as male energy) clothed with the sun (centered in the consciousness of the Spirit of God or the Soul), and the moon under her feet, (the emotions are under the control of the Soul), and upon her head a crown of twelve stars (The power of the Molecule is manifested through twelve male-female units)...And she brought forth a man child (Christ and those with Christ consciousness), who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron (the power of truth): and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. (the Ascension of Christ followed by the effort of the true disciples of Christ to keep the teachings on the kingdom of God alive up to 570 AD): And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand, two hundred and sixty days. Rev 12:1-2;5-6 After the loss of Excalibur, the power of the Molecule was withdrawn from men. The period of time given here is 1260 days, but in Bible prophecy a day is often symbolic of a year. If we add 1260 years to 570 AD, we arrive at the year 1830. This was the year that Joseph Smith, the Mormon prophet, established The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. He was a reincarnation of Merlin as well as the Apostle Peter, and his initiating partner, Oliver Cowdry was the reincarnation of King Arthur and the Apostle Paul. Together they started the Church and chose another Molecule of twelve apostles, each of whom had a female partner. Joseph also created a governing body which he called "The Council of Fifty" similar to King Arthur's, just before his death, but was killed before he could harmonize it. After his death, the Church could see little use or purpose in this Council and dropped it. Joseph had much difficulty establishing unity even among his founding Twelve. At times he had as many as half of them against him in their hearts and some sought his life. Nevertheless, at certain times some of them went forth and did mighty miracles such as raising the dead and healing the sick. When Joseph had organized several Molecules in the correct order in the temple at Kirtland, Ohio, a pillar a fire descended on it that lit up the whole countryside. This was a real fire visible to all and the next day an article was written about the fire that seemed to burn the temple down in the anti-Mormon press. Joseph was attempting to unify his Molecule of Twelve to prepare for a greater revelation when he was killed. Shortly after that, the leaders of the Mormon Church halted the gathering process and lacked the vision or connection to create working Molecules. At this point "the Woman fled into the wilderness" the second time. The wording is slightly different than the first scripture: "And to the woman were given two great wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent." Rev 12:14 On this second flight into the wilderness, the Woman is given power by two wings of a great eagle. As everyone knows, this is a symbol of the United States. We find it on the back of every dollar bill. The first flight was for 1260 years, as previously discussed, but this one is a corresponding, but different, period. It is represented by time (one certain period of time), plus times (two certain periods of time), and half a time (or one-half of a certain period). Altogether, this equals three and one-half periods of time. We know it corresponds to the first period because if we say that each period equals one prophetic year of 360 days, (a prophetic year is 360 days) then three and one-half years equals exactly 1260 days. In this second prophecy, the time period was written with a different wording because it referred to a different duration of time. The correspondence was that it referred to three and one-half periods. This three and one-half period shows up again and again in the book of Revelations. We have just quoted two. In addition, the two witnesses prophecy for three and one-half years and lie dead in the streets for three and one-half days. So far we have the three and one-half periods (represented by 1260 years), three and one- half years and three and one-half days. What is the three and one-half times that the Molecular order was in the wilderness in the United States? Logic tells us that it will not be 1260 years, three and one-half years, or three and one-half days since they have been used already (and the scripture here always seems to use a different correspondence). The most likely division here is three and one half generations. We know that the Woman, or the Molecular power, the sword of Excalibur, will soon come out of the wilderness and the three and one half generations seem to fit the prophecy. The time of the power of the Molecule has not yet arrived, but will manifest again soon. The exact time does not matter to us. What does matter is that it will happen and that we must do all within our power to immediately begin to lay the correct foundation for its manifestation. Therefore, the next section of this treatise will deal with the Molecule's workings and organization. Post No. keys-l: /1999-08-31/6455 From: Tracey Hobson Subject: RE: CH. 22 Cont. JJ asks: "What is the three and one-half times that the Molecular order was in the wilderness in the United States?" Just venturing a very wild guess here, but could a few of them been when Lincoln was assassinated, when Kennedy was, and when King was? Question: you say, "...Joseph Smith, the Mormon prophet, established The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. He was a reincarnation of Merlin as well as the Apostle Peter, and his initiating partner, Oliver Cowdry was the reincarnation of King Arthur and the Apostle Paul." Since I know you invite questions, JJ, I must ask - how do you KNOW this stuff? Signing off as the curious one, Tracey Post No. keys-l: /1999-08-31/6456 From: J J Dewey Subject: Three and One Half Periods Tracy Writes: "Question: you say, "...Joseph Smith, the Mormon prophet, established The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. He was a reincarnation of Merlin as well as the Apostle Peter, and his initiating partner, Oliver Cowdry was the reincarnation of King Arthur and the Apostle Paul." "Since I know you invite questions, JJ, I must ask - how do you KNOW this stuff?" On this particular piece of information I will only give you a hint. I received it from a person you will meet in Book III of the Immortal. Again I present it only as a piece of knowledge that may or may not be correct and you are under no obligation to accept it unless you receive confirmation through your soul. The Lincoln, Kennedy, King combination is a very interesting thought and on some level may have a place, but it does not closely correspond. For instance, the period is three and one half - so how do you have a half of a death? Also the three and one half periods deals with time and the two wings of an eagle definitely points at the United States. So where could the Molecular Order have manifested in the US? There are only two possibilities. The first is the Founding Fathers. They definitely benefited from group energy and had a lot of inspiration, but they never made a spiritual molecule nor was there a link up with a Master, even though impressions came from them. They did have the inspiration to establish three branches of government corresponding to the Trinity and we have wound up with fifty states a key number from Camelot and early Mormonism. None of the major religions established in this country sought to link heaven and earth through a molecular type order except the founder of the Mormon church. Now I know many of us look at the Mormon church today and do not see enough light there to get excited about, but the early church was much different and was on the cutting edge of spiritual technology. This is also true if we compare early Christianity with the modern churches. The deterioration of teachings after the death of the teacher has been a major problem through the ages, but this will be largely corrected after the Molecular Order is firmly rooted among humanity. Post No. keys-l: /1999-08-31/6457 From: "Aley" Subject: Re: Three and One Half Periods I really hesitate at asking this question I don't know a lot about this, but I seem to remember that Alice Bailey spoke of the Inners Masons creating such a connection and I think alluded to the fact that most of the founding fathers were a part of this inner organization. Please correct me if I am wrong. Aley Post No. keys-l: /1999-08-31/6458 From: Tracey Hobson Subject: Guess again BTW, where is everyone? NJ? Okay, at the risk of looking foolish yet again, the founding fathers did cross my mind. I'm not a huge history buff, but did not Benedict Arnold betray them? Did his duplicity weaken that first molecule to the point of killing it? And you ask about the half - could a half of a death be something that seems to all the world like a death but which, in reality, is not? Tracey Hobson Customer Marketing Altera Corporation 408.544.7149 Post No. keys-l: /1999-35/6459 From: Jean Subject: Re: RE: CH. 22 Cont. J.J, I too have a question for you...what do you think of the "visitations of Mary" as in Medjgorie, Fatima, and Lourdes? How does all of that fit in all this? Jean Change does not come easily or quickly, but the courage to change gives us the freedom to grow...... also check out my main url, it is http://www.angelfire.com/va/jeanbean25 Post No. keys-l: /1999-08-31/6460 From: Jean Subject: Re: Three and One Half Periods Aley, you brought up a good point, the masons, the crusades, the knights templar? Is it all connected? Post No. keys-l: /1999-08-31/6461 From: "Aley" Subject: Re: Three and One Half Periods Editor's Note: Repeat of Post No. 6460 Post No. keys-l: /1999-08-31/6462 From: "Aley" Subject: Re: Three and One Half Periods "Aley, you brought up a good point, the masons, the crusades, the knights templar? Is it all connected?" From what I can remember the inner teachings of the Masons is contained within the temple of King Solomon, and Egyptian Temples, brought from Atlantis, Mu Sirius etc. but I can attest to nothing. The Cathers were sworn to protect the family Of Jesus his alleged daughter and the sacred geometry of the chosen site in France that protected the family. They were burned to last lot of them according to history but rumor has it the their secret documents were smuggled to the states. The Knights Templar also protected the family of Christ and the ones who knew the secret knowledge throughout history. The crusades as far as I know was simply genocide of women and the Asian races. Merlin King Arthur etc was all connected to this as the last known outpost of Atlantis. The secrets of these ancient societies have been woven into myths and legends of Europe. I have to admit that I don't know if any of it was true, but I do know there is a (magic or power) about that was and is still used by those who are evolved enough to understand hidden truths that are not available to ordinary man. This molecular structure that JJ speaks of may be the power re-appearing here on earth when this higher knowledge is needed to help guide man through the days to come. This is just stuff I read years ago when I was deeply into the mind game :) but something always calls me to this inner knowledge that I know exists Aley Post No. keys-l: /1999-08-31/6463 From: Jean Subject: Re: Three and One Half Periods Yes Aley, I know exactly what you mean, I can remember as a little girl being drawn to knowledge and "higher" truths. I can remember being drawn to stories and still am of Merlin and Arthur. I remember as a teenager being so into reading about holy blood holy grail the two books on the blood line of Christ....always opening my mind to questions, etc. I can't say I know the answers, but I can say I have been and will continue to be a seeker of truth....I know I am meant to do that....to find the answers someday....Yes, I too as I feel in my heart all of us on this list and others like it are drawn to it...all for a reason... Jean Post No. keys-l: /1999-08-31/6464 From: "Aley" Subject: Re: Three and One Half Periods I had a dream not long ago When I entered this place I saw that everything was made of a living gold A flower retained the colors of flowers but it flowed like gentle fire, with no usual boundaries and rather carbon based it was gold based. This place was indescribably beautiful. A person came to me and took me to a table laden with golden fruits and nuts food of the exotic types I looked at this person and said, " is all this mine" and the person "yes"" you only have to remember who you are This place and the words have burned themselves into my brain. I saw that when I breathed that somehow I became the breath of God and all was blessed around me. My hands and arms became infused with this golden light and everything I touched was healed I can still feel the difference in myself when I am normal there is a heaviness and ordinary feeling about me, but when I remember this golden light I become alive. This dream helps me now not to lose myself in the struggles of my world......but I am not sure I can remember who I am....but for this much I am grateful Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-01/6465 From: Rick Audette Subject: Re: Chapter 22 Continued Oh boy, I get to play with my calculator again. Let's see now 12 is our molecular number. In the Greek tradition, it is the number of Mankind. There are 12 moons around Jupiter (children of God), twelve apostles, tribes, etc. 12 spheres of equal size will fit perfectly around another one of the same size. Mankind, centered around Oneness gives us 13 13 is the number that stands for Soul 4 is the number of earth and the builders of the physical universe 4 is the number of molecules needed to make a vortex of power 4 x 13 = 52, the number of weeks in a year, cards in a deck, etc. 52 x 3.5 = 182 1830 + 182 = 2012 the year 2012 is found in a number of end times predictions it is the last date on the Mayan calendar some books say that is when Christ will return I don't know what it all means, that's just what I came up with in the first round of playing with the calculator. You can get to some cool places on those gizmos. The guy that invented it, Pascal, worked out the odds that belief if God was a safe bet. Go figure :) One, Rick -- ICQ 19753992 visit my web pages at http://www.ont.com/users/rea1/ have you read "The Immortal" http://www.freeread.com A smile is a curved line that sets things straight. Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-01/6466 From: J J Dewey Subject: Molecular Principles CHAPTER TWENTY-THREE MOLECULAR PRINCIPLES Copyright by J J Dewey The foundation of the Molecule is the male-female Unit working in harmony together. As mentioned earlier the male is the sending Unit and the female is the receiving. To understand the Molecule we must not look upon male and female as merely bodies in the regular sense, but as energy units, and we must realize that the body merely symbolizes the male or female polarization that our Soul has placed us in. The Molecule is a functioning electrical creation, and to create any operating piece of equipment, all units have to function in their correct energy. The male-female human Units are no different. The positive-negative, sending- receiving, radiant-magnetic relationship must be set up for a Human Molecule to function properly in the macrocosm just as the atomic lives must follow these principles in the microcosm. The problem is that the male is in his energy as a sender, but cannot function as a sender if his female partner has reached a much higher state of evolution than himself and is the major sender in the relationship. If a man marries a female of noticeably higher sending polarization than himself, she automatically becomes the male energy and he the female energy; this instantly throws both of them out of their natural energy current. Therefore, the male should find a female for a partner who is able to receive from him, someone that he can elevate to a higher vibration. The female should seek a partner who can stimulate her toward higher evolution, someone she can learn from and trust as a competent teacher or sender. If this interplay is impossible in the current relationship then there are several possibilities to maintain balance. (1) Find a working partner that seems right for the sending-receiving relationship. (2) Or, if a working partner would cause a problem with a current relationship you want to keep, then both you and your current partner come in as a receiving unit and attach yourself to a sending unit. In such a circumstance you may have three or more individuals make up one Molecular Unit. This is a much more stable unit than is created by attempting to force a male to send when has been the receiver in the relationship for a period of time. One may argue that we are supposed to teach each other and learn from one another. This is both true and false. It is true that we can all teach each other facts. It is, however, false that we can teach each other principles. It may take a thousand facts to make one principle, but from one principle one can derive thousands of facts. A fact is merely a piece of information that anyone can incorporate into their brain memory. It can likewise be programmed into a computer. A principle is a different matter. A principle is the underlying truth that makes all facts valid. It requires judgment to use and can not be programmed into a computer. For instance, the Constitution of the United States is built around the principle of the Free Agency of man. Around this principle has sprung the Constitution and thousands of books containing millions of facts. In the days of the foundation of the United States, there were only a handful of enlightened people who were able to understand the principle of freedom. People of lower evolution could not see it. There was no way that King George from England could teach or enlighten George Washington in any degree on this principle even though he probably had as many facts in his head on the subject as Washington did. On the other hand, Washington could have done much to enlighten the King if he was willing to listen. This is true on a broader scale. Those beginners on the Path may relate enlightening facts to those farther along than themselves, but they can never directly teach them principles. Principles are only passed down from higher to lower. If any of us achieve enlightenment on any principle, it is either inspired by a person who is further along the path than ourselves or from our Higher Selves. What we are saying here is, in fact, a principle: enlightenment proceeds from the top down, never from the bottom up. Therefore, to create the correct current of energy in the Molecule, the male-female relationship must be established so the principles flow from male to female. To make this work, the ideal would be to have males who are slightly farther on the Path or near equal to their female companions rather than so far behind they cannot use their natural sending energy. The principle of sending-receiving can work even if the male and female are near the same degree of evolution. (This is because of their energy polarities.) If this is the case, they will assume the correct energy and the sending-receiving relationship will be set up. The problem arises when the female is significantly more evolved than the male and demands the sending position. In this case the energy current is reversed and the flow is weak. When the male-female Units are functioning in their correct energy, we have then laid the foundation for the creation of Human Molecules. Each correctly functioning male-female partnership is then to be looked upon as one Unit. The words of the Master Jesus were esoterically correct in that the male-female union is not two, but "one flesh." Matt 19:5. The two together are like one human atom (or Adam). As a test of their unity in the Molecular Order, the male-female partnership is to be counted as one voice and not two. Thus, they must reach unity between them on all items of Molecular business. If they are unable to do this, it is evident that their energy is out of balance, and one (or both) lack soul contact, and thus is not of value to the Molecular creation. The next step is to create a functioning Human Molecule. This requires twenty-four people. The ideal Molecule consists of an equal number of males and females, or twelve male-female partners functioning in the sender-receiver relationship. From here on in this manuscript the male-female partnership will be referred to as one Molecular Unit. Thus the Molecule consists of twelve Molecular Units. The Units are divided into four triangles or four groups of three Molecular Units. Each triangle has a leader which will be elected by the majority vote of the three. In addition, each Molecule has one triangle which is the governing triangle. The governing triangle is that group which possesses the leading Unit of the Molecule. The leading Unit of the Molecule is chosen by one of two methods: (1) The power of initiation or (2) The process of election. 1. INITIATION: There has been much talk about initiates and how to become one. On this point there is much needless confusion in the world. The understanding of an initiate is quite simple. He or she is merely one who can demonstrate the power to initiate or begin something. For instance, Columbus was an initiate because he initiated or started the migration to the Western Hemisphere. Lincoln was an initiate because he initiated the freedom of the slaves. Edison was an initiate because he initiated the light bulb. The more far- reaching the thing started, the higher is the degree of initiation attained. Those who begin a work with world- wide repercussions are very advanced initiates. Those who successfully begin a work with less than world- wide impact are initiates of a lesser degree. Those who do not work at beginning anything new in the service of humanity are not generally initiates to any degree, but, if they are seeking to find their path, they are called aspirants. The sure sign of true leadership ability is the power of initiation. As evidence of this, we notice that a business that is run by the initiator often is very successful, but, when the initiate retires and the company is headed by a non-initiate, it does not seem to do as well as before. He who has the vision to begin a new project or enterprise on his own initiative generally has the leadership ability to hold it all together better than anyone else; ask any small business owner who is an initiate over his enterprise. Therefore, under the initiation principle, the Unit which is clearly responsible for the creation of a certain Molecule will be the natural leader of it and will be entitled to assume the leadership role. The initiate of a Molecule is the Unit which has clearly done the majority of the work in teaching and drawing the people together into the Molecule. If it happens that the initiating unit shows poor leadership he may be voted out by a majority vote of the Molecule and replaced by a new leader. The initiating unit is then always free to participate in still another Molecule and assume leadership of that by either initiation or election. 2. ELECTION: If there is no clear-cut initiate, then the leading unit will be nominated and elected by the Molecular members. The unit elected should be the one considered to be the most able and willing teacher, or sender, in the group. Any number can be nominated, but the Unit finally chosen must be selected by a majority vote. If the first voting does not produce a majority then a second vote will be cast for the two receiving the most votes. If the Molecule later discovers they made a mistake and put the wrong unit in, its leadership may be challenged by any other Unit in the group and another election may be called for. If a new Unit receives a majority vote, then the old leader will be replaced by a new one. Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-01/6467 From: Marylin Subject: Re: Three and One Half Periods J J writes: "They definitely benefited from group energy and had a lot of inspiration, but they never made a spiritual molecule nor was there a link up with a Master, even though impressions came from them." "They did have the inspiration to establish three branches of government corresponding to the Trinity and we have wound up with fifty states a key number from Camelot and early Mormonism." Hi JJ and all I would like to inject here that when I took government in high school, we were taught that the Constitution of the United States was based on the 10 commandments. Government didn't intrigue me back then and I didn't check it out much less memorize it. I just accepted it because it felt right. Love, Light, Peace and Harmony Marylin Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-01/6468 From: John Kosior Subject: Re: Molecular Principles J J Dewey wrote: "The foundation of the Molecule is the male-female Unit working in harmony together. As mentioned earlier the male is the sending Unit and the female is the receiving. The positive-negative, sending-receiving, radiant-magnetic relationship must be set up for a Human Molecule to function properly in the macrocosm just as the atomic lives must follow these principles in the microcosm" "The problem is that the male is in his energy as a sender, but cannot function as a sender if his female partner has reached a much higher state of evolution than himself and is the major sender in the relationship." Hi Folks, Just a few observations here. I have noticed through many examples of a thing which has occurred to a lot of the male/female couples I've known. And that is that in many cases, the two respective roles of the male and female in the courtship portion of relationship can often times change to a very different situation when the relationship becomes consummated. So many times we've all heard the claim of one or both involved in such relationships that one or the other has really "changed". The female may claim that the male before the marriage would go to great lengths to offer their lives in the form of inner feelings and gifts, etc. that were presented to the female on some regular basis. These "gifts" were then received by the female and these actions were accepted as proofs of the man's "love" for the female. At this point, the female would respond in the most natural of female energy, that being reception to the male advances, and the most wonderful "love" experience is enjoyed by both parts. However, what has become a great norm in our time is that when the union of marriage or committed relationship is entered into, one or both in the couple begin to relax their former actions of sending and receiving. This being a process, it only takes some measure of time before the view of the each other begins to change. The male, no longer thinking that tangible demonstrations of giving are necessary to show his "love" of the other becomes relaxed or even reticent to those actions taken during the courtship. The female responsiveness often kicks in to translate the lack of tangible giving of this time and energy to the female as "He doesn't 'love' me anymore". And no matter then how many times the male says I "love" you, the female, seeing past the words, still "knows" that the relationship is not as it was. This then has the effect of the female shutting down her receptivity from the male who obviously doesn't care (in her mind) for her as he once did. Now when this occurs, there are a few different possibilities which arise. But considering the high rate of divorce, it seems evident that the most common result is that all kinds of defensive actions begin to take place. The female, with a desire to elicit the sendership of the male to its former height, is almost forced to utilize male/sending energy to "force" the male to understand the depressed state of his sending activities. When this begins to happen, and especially when the relationship is very important to the male, his response will often be "forced" towards the receiving polarity as he attempts to accept the strong, energetic projections that his mate is sending. In this state, he may even begin to emulate the actions of giving that once permeated the courtship relationship. But too often these actions are only elicited by desire projected by his mate, and thus is seen by the female as cheap imitation of the former reality. And thus a viscous cycle begins. The female, sensing a disingenuousness in her mates' actions begin to send stronger signals to her mate, which only serve to promote more of the same from the male. As you might imagine, the result can easily elevate to the eventual separation of the relationship. In the most classic example of this, both parts will feel that the other is the one at fault, as both feel they have gone "out of their way" to surrender to the perceived desire of the other. This last state of the relationship may hold the key to the actual problem which brought the marriage into divorce proceedings. The two had in fact "gone out of their way". No matter which of the two began the process, what in fact happened is that one or both left "their way". The male in fact left the role of free giving based on love. Or the female left the role of freely receiving that love. Thus the covenant, which was based on the highest roles of each being delivered to, and received by the other becomes severed. This dynamic, I believe, was the theme of an old song by Barbara Streisand and Neil Diamond. The song was "You Don't Bring Me Flowers", the first words of which are, (Babs) You don't bring me flowers. You don't sing me love songs. (Neil) You hardly talk to me anymore, when I come through the door at the end of the day. I believe that JJ's approach to the molecular relationship, and the subsequent described roles of the sexes holds an ingenious answer to this difficulty. I also believe that if single individuals were deeply aware of this principle of male/female roles before entering into that which becomes long term, committed relationships, and could maintain that awareness, the two may indeed find themselves on the road to an eternal Love which would grow and become ever more exciting and new day by day in every way imaginable, and beyond that to things as yet unimaginable. So what has been the "block" to such balanced and perfect relationships? I would submit that they come from the learned patterns of lower energy motivations of both males and females. Classically, the lower energy of the male is that of the "hunter" and the "conqueror". In that attempt, the male will use every means at his disposal to snag his woman, including "giving" and "sharing" of feelings and things. However, once the catch is made, all such luring methods are deemed as unnecessary, and the only thing left to do is to consume their catch. Thus the "change" begins. On the female side, the lower energy motivation is to attract a male who will fill all of her needs for commitment/sharing and security. But here, once the overtures of the male are accepted as true love, and a covenant is accepted by her, the tendency to drop the "attractive" energy she used during the courtship can begin to occur. Regardless of who or what catalyzed these latter circumstances, it's the relationship that suffers great loss. Then left unchecked, the inevitable result becomes division or even dissolution of what could have been a wildly fulfilling union. By the way, this dynamic, I believe, can also be seen in what JJ described as the rejection by Judas of his Lord. Understanding the same dynamic, Judas thought strongly that Jesus would be setting up a physical, earthly kingdom at that time. He thus entered into a "covenant" of a type with Jesus. But subsequent to Judas' realization that Jesus' actions would never meet his expectations, he took the action of betrayal which severed the bond and stability of the twelve. The results of this "divorce" was a "block" to the energy which had formerly flowed freely to Jesus and the twelve. In conclusion, I would submit that as we consider all of the principles we will be asked to accept in the human molecule, that we should be made absolutely clear as to our role within the vision of the group we find ourselves in. Always ready to reassert those principles on which we originally agreed if ever one or more begin to deviate from that established pattern of activity. Thus we find ourselves in this intense learning experience, even through all the "dark" feelings (depression, self loathings, etc.) in order that before we ever enter into the "marriage supper of the Lamb", we will indeed be so grounded in and accepting of our respective roles that we will be able to overcome any and all challenges to that commitment. And just as this dynamic will produce the strongest bond in our earthly marriages, it will also become the eternal bond which will forever change humanity into the True family of God, which is indeed the Purpose of God and All creation. With Blessings, John P.S. Thank you to each of you for your kind words about some of my posts. You are all so kind to take such time to acknowledge those thoughts. And I thank each of you also for your inexhaustible Love and Wisdom which comes through in all of your posts. Love To You All Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-01/6469 From: Xavier Subject: Re: Molecular Principles J J Dewey writes: "Those who successfully begin a work with less than world-wide impact are initiates of a lesser degree. Those who do not work at beginning anything new in the service of humanity are not generally initiates to any degree, but, if they are seeking to find their path, they are called aspirants." "you should aspire to things more noble" you told me. ;-) this word rang in my mind but I didn't enlighten my understanding immediately. Yes, obviously I did not initiate anything new in the service of humanity;-) I feel better that way, I always said I was an aspirant (since I understood the classification). Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-01/6470 From: Marylin Subject: Re: [maybe OT] pre-molecular powers "Thank you for considering my prayers, Rick" Hi Rick You have my prayers, light and love. Marylin Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-01/6471 From: Brian Weis Subject: more comments on Molecular Principles John Kosior writes: "I have noticed through many examples of a thing which has occurred to a lot of the male/female couples I've known. And that is that in many cases, the two respective roles of the male and female in the courtship portion of relationship can often times change to a very different situation when the relationship becomes consummated. So many times we've all heard the claim of one or both involved in such relationships that one or the other has really "changed"...." Great comments, John. JJ sure is giving us something to mull over. John's comments made me recall James Redfield (or at least his "Celestine Prophecy" writings). He wrote that all human struggle is a struggle for energy: trying to get energy from surrounding people around because the connection to Source was lost (or at least perceived to be lost). This also affects the nature of relationships. This In a new relationship, the man and woman (for example) focus fully on each other, freely giving of their energy. The experience is absolutely blissful. Later, however, they look to each other to continue supplying that energy, forgetting about getting the unlimited energy from the Source. They then fall into the old dramas, subconsciously scheming to gain the other's energy that was once freely given. This leads to pain, and an eventual falling apart (unless they recognize it for what it is). The two people part, only to begin the same sequence all over again with different partners. Marianne Williamson (ACIM) referred to this phenom as well. In fact, she always says that the first thing to do when you meet someone and are attracted to them is to PRAY. : ) Not so that the other person will fall in love with you or whatever, but so that you can remain clear and stand free of manipulative drama. Just a few more thoughts for ya all..... ~B. Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-01/6472 From: Norman Fleshman Subject: Johns observations Re: Molecular Principles John, What wonderful insight you share, as do JJ, and the many others here. Thanks to all of you. Norman Post no. keys-l: /1999-09-01/6473 From: John Kosior Subject: (OT) Birthday Wishes Hi Folks, I wanted to send out my fondest birthday wishes for Glenys. Rumor has it that our lovely Glenys is turning 29 today. So may I be among those who first wish you a happy 29th. :) With Blessings, John Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-01/6474 From: Richard and Sharon Subject: OT Birthday John, thank you for the reminder, allow us to join with you in wishing beloved Glenys a most wonderful birthday. love, sharon & richard Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-01/6475 From: Norman Fleshman Subject: OT? Happy birthday, Glenys. Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-01/6476 From: LaNae Subject: People Feeling Strange Hello All, This was very helpful for me. Thought that this might help some, in whatever way. Take what is for your highest good, and leave the rest. Namaste' LaNae * * * * * From: Jon Locke > For those who may be misled by the manner of JJ's reply ... I am not associated with or a member of any other group, society, organisation, or religion. What I write is not influenced by what I may have read ... or by what I may have been told by others ... What I write is the result of my own meditation, my own inner journey, my own 'spiritual journey' ... a journey which has been taken in conjunction with a group of other people here in Tasmania who have freely shared their time and their experiences in an effort to resolve conflicts of belief. Similarly, none of these are associated in any way with any other group ...etc Christopher Wynter Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-03/6491 From: "Christopher Wynter" Subject: Re: Comments 2 "If we 'seek first the kingdom of God," as Jesus also said, "then all things will be added." In my understanding, Jesus did not speak English ... A Child knows that Jesus did not say that ... yet that is what the child is forced to believe ... WHY BTW ... How long after the one we know as Jesus 'died' did the name Jesus come into use? ... Christopher Wynter Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-03/6492 From: Lorraine Deckard Subject: insecurity Hello everyone, I don't mean to seem insecure here, but I am. After my posting of the fruit of Cancer things have gotten quiet and I'm beginning to wonder if I did something to offend. I can understand why you may be surprised to hear I have a working partner considering how much I've been complaining about not having a romantic one. Or maybe you didn't know about Dennis so no one knows how to address us, (him or me) Frankly, I'm not sure what's going on so I am kind of grasping at straws. I even thought maybe you all were surprised that I was able to tell you about the fruit so soon after JJ posted the instructions. An explanation for that is we had breakfast last Sunday and he told us just a little about the fruit so we had time to absorb and contemplate before the instructions were posted. I was expecting the group to rejoice but instead all was quiet. How is everyone feeling? Did I offend? I am insecure and I'm sorry for that. I welcome all comments and questions and I will quit complaining about my love life. Just let me know that all is well. Love and Light Lorraine Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-03/6493 From: Tracey Hobson Subject: Re: Insecurity Hey Lorraine, Just speaking for myself, I have noticed that the list gets quiet here and there, now and again, for no apparent reason, which is to say that it's nothing personal. I have asked pointed questions that have gone unanswered, which just points up (once again) to me that the only place in which I am the center of the universe is in my own head! At first, I kind of let it hurt my feelings, but that is so counterproductive. But other people have other thoughts and directions in which they want to go rather than play 20 questions with "moi." Everyone sorts this stuff out for themselves, so it seems, often without comment, sometimes with. I personally am just in observation mode today (actually, most days). I can't seem to get this NJ stuff and am kind of feeling left out, like I'm afraid the angels at the gate are gonna tell me, Sorry Sister, but you aren't ready - you haven't given enough to mankind yet. Other people, I'm sure have "no comment" for other reasons, almost certainly none of which are meant to be taken personally. Hope this helps. Tracey ----------------------- Tracey Hobson Customer Marketing Altera Corporation 408.544.7149 Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-03/6494 From: "Aley" Subject: Re: insecurity Dear Lorraine, I'm new in and out because of computer problems, and can't really respond with any intelligence to anything as yet. I have been trying to read all the stuff that is going on and find it incredibly interesting but wow it sure blows my mind out of the water. At the same time I know it inwardly from studies a bit but mostly just having the feeling but I sure can't respond to much. So bear with it and thanks for your honesty it helps all of us to find clarity in your feelings Aley Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-03/6495 From: "Rapter" Subject: J.J. Dewey reincarnation of Peter Correct me if I'm wrong about this; but if Peter became King Arthur and then Joseph Smith, then it is not much of a leap to ask is J.J. Dewey Peter as well? Consider what they have in common: knowledge about the 'Keys of the Kingdom' - 'knowledge about the molecular principle and the gathering'. If the gathering has only been attempted three times (Christ's attempt, King Arthur's attempt and Joseph Smith's attempt) and we can place the same soul participating in all three attempts, then it only seems logical to ask the question. If J.J. Dewey is attempting to initiate the molecular principle again via the gathering then he must be Peter, or one of the other unnamed souls who participated in the previous attempted gatherings. If this is a stretch let me know! Keith 'The Lurker' Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-03/6496 From: "Aley" Subject: Re: J.J. Dewey reincarnation of Peter I like this and it does make a lot of sense I wonder there are a number of (not large) that know about these principals such as JJ Hurtek, Dan Winters, a few others who know of these principals. However none have spoken out in the past about forming molecular principles to my knowledge, although the inner wisdom works on these principles. Aley I really like this Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-03/6497 From: J J Dewey Subject: More Comments Lorraine, I'm sure none in this group were offended and many including myself greatly enjoyed your posting about the fruit. I'd like to see more like it. I would say that you inspired some to try harder because of your success. And to the group I would say that if you think you have posted something significant and you get very little comment do not be dismayed. I often get the least comment on what I think is my best material. Then I'll post something light and off the cuff and get lots of response. I've stopped trying to predict what will strike the response button and just accept whatever comes forth. And Chris, I agree that children grow up with overwhelming influences to overcome, even if soul contact is later established. I like the words of Jesus where he said: "Whosoever offends one of these little ones, it is better that a millstone be tied about his neck and be cast in the depths of the sea..." Concerning the name of Jesus in the immortal Book I we are told that the entity Jesus does not even like the modern name Jesus and only uses it when He has to for identity purposes. Nevertheless, because of the thoughtform behind the name it does have a powerful healing energy that can be harnessed in connection with the power of faith. I think we all realize the scriptures were not written in English. The main thing I might comment about your near death experiences is that I always find them interesting. I do not think they are a sign of a great mission but they can have a profound effect. Illusions can also be experienced during the process. I know several people on the list have had them and if you or anyone else want to relate any memories that you have had I'm sure the group would find that interesting. Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-03/6498 From: John Kosior Subject: Keysters Arise G'Day Folks, I am pleased to see the exchange that has begun between the keysters. The comments, questions and concerns expressed over the weeks previous have begun to be addressed, and I can only see this as the most healthy thing we can do. To illustrate this point, allow me to describe a thought which passed by my mind this morning. This was actually a response to a circumstance involving a friend not associated with the list. Yet still it seems to be ever so applicable to our discussion. As a background, I'll tell you that my friend is very well read in matters spiritual. (An oxymoron? :) Being very connected to the idea of karma, ever vigilant to loving others and doing no harm, my friend cannot understand why he is having troubling times and occurrences happening all around him. He told me that he is beginning to question and doubt all of the things which he has held as sacred truth, that "good" projected brings "good" back, in one form or another. So he asked me why these things were happening this way. Unfortunately, I had little to offer at the time to help him with the answer. This morning, I received an image, which developed into a story: There was once a certain man, who lived in a certain village, who at a certain time had the realization that the water supply, a certain well from which the whole village drew, had been tainted with certain chemicals that certainly produced certain ill effects among all of the people in this certain village. So on one certain day, he arose early and went in search of a certain hill which he was certain would contain a new and clean water supply from which he could certainly draw pure, untainted water. So certain was he, that he brought with him all that he would need to dig the new well, which would supply him and his fellow villagers with new water. As the man found this certain area, he was certain it would produce new, clean water, and he began to dig. So it came as no surprise when, upon his excavation, he discovered a fresh-water spring which ran beneath the surface of this certain hill. Delighted with this new found water supply, he drank deeply and discovered that all of those certain ill effects that had certainly plagued him and his fellow villagers, began to dissipate, leaving the man with a certain feeling for which he gave a certain name. Overjoyed by these certain events, he established on this certain spot, a new well where all of the people of this certain village could come and be refreshed. He returned that day to the village and began to inform certain people of his new well, and that they were certainly welcome to use this new water supply in place of the old. Now these certain people noticed immediately that there was something certainly different about the man. All of those certain illnesses that once plagued the man had certainly vanished, and this excited them. One by one, many of the villagers traveled to the new well and used its water, which produced the same certain effects that the first man had experienced. There were some from the village however, who believed that these certain effects were not a result of the new water, but must certainly be from some other cause. "Perhaps it is the walk up the hill that relieved their certain illness", some would say. And others thought, "It is certainly the air on that certain hill which produced such relief". So certain were some of the villagers that this new water was not the cause of this new health, that they began to secretly visit the well, carrying with them water from the old well, which they secretly poured into the new supply. At first, this produced no certain effect, as all of the other villagers were certainly enjoying their new found health. But still they continued their secret trips to that certain well on that certain hill. And as time passed, it became certain to some that many of the old, ill effects were beginning to return. And no one was certain of the cause. No one except that certain man who had dug that certain well. He was certain that somehow, the water of the new well was being poisoned with the same certain chemicals that had tainted the old. So certain was he, that on a certain day, he arose early and positioned himself in a certain place where he could watch the villagers come and go, to and from the well, without himself being seen. Then he saw them. Those certain villagers who had 'religiously' come to taint the water. Upon being discovered in their actions, these certain villagers were separated from the rest, and restricted from ever visiting that certain well on that certain hill. But the damage was done. The water had been tainted, and many of the villagers, who's illnesses had returned, were certain that the new well no longer held the certain relief it once did. All believed this. All but this one certain man. The same certain man who had dug that certain well. So on one certain day, he called upon all of the villagers to come and listen to the certain truth about that certain well on that certain hill. When all had arrived, that certain man began to speak. He said to them: "I am certain that you are all aware that some certain villagers, those who were certain that our new well was not the cause of our certain health, had gone on many days to taint the water that had certainly given us all such certain health. And I know that you are all aware that certain illnesses that we once had have begun to come again. But I must tell you the certain truth about that certain well on that certain hill. You see, the Source of the water which supplies that certain well is not a still pool, but a flowing river. It is forever cleansing of itself, and certainly even now has cleansed itself of the impurities that some certain villagers had added to it". So certain was he, that he led the entire village, (even those who had first poisoned the water), back to that certain well. There he drank deeply and as before, he was relieved of all of those certain illnesses that had returned. So it was, that on that certain day, all of the people of that certain village drank again of the newly purified water of that certain well. And when they had certainly been relieved of all their certain illnesses, they displayed a sign above that certain well which contained these certain words: "......whoever drinks the water I give him will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life". So when I see my friend again, you can be certain that I will tell him to check the well from which he draws. And I will tell him that if he finds that it has been tainted by the poisons of others, that all he need do is restrict their access to that certain well and allow the Eternal Source to cleanse and purify the water that once healed him. And then to drink again deeply from that Source, for I am certain that he will once again find that certain relief. Blessings, John Oh, and BTW, L. Ron Hubbard (Dianetics, Scientology) died of a heart attack while jogging. So much for being "clear". :) Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-03/6499 From: "Rapter" Subject: J.J. Dewey as Peter I must correct myself before everyone else does. The order does not go Peter, King Arthur, Joseph Smith, J.J. Dewey but Peter, Merlin, Joseph Smith and then J.J. Dewey. Merlin is the reincarnation of Peter not King Arthur - sorry about that. But the point remains the same. Keith 'the Lurker' Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-03/6500 From: Tracey Hobson Subject: Re: Keysters Arise Hi John.... if you're wondering if I enjoyed the story of the well, I can only say, as Curly of the Three Stooges would have once said himself, "Soitanly!" (nyuk nyuk nyuk...) T. Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-03/6501 From: Laura Subject: Re: J.J. Dewey reincarnation of Peter "Correct me if I'm wrong about this; but if Peter became King Arthur and then Joseph Smith, then it is not much of a leap to ask is J.J. Dewey Peter as well? If this is a stretch let me know!" If it's a stretch, then it's not a far one. Considering that John in The Immortal: B1 called JJD his 'old friend' and never elaborated on it, I could certainly see JJD as being the reincarnation of one of the apostles. As a matter of fact, perhaps JJD can elaborate on this, for this most recent attempt to show mankind the keys to the kingdom, would all 12 of the original apostles *need* to be reincarnated? And if so, what role would the former Judas take? What kind of development would the original Betrayer have made in the past 2 millennia? A bit of a selfish note here.. I'm not very familiar with you all just yet, but I'm very much enjoying reading the list! If any of you are willing, I'd like to request that some light be shone in this direction, as my husband was just told he'd need back surgery today for an ailment that he's been receiving PT for the past few weeks, which is going to be a bit difficult to deal with, especially since we don't have the money to pay the necessary deductible :P Living and learning, Laura Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-03/6502 From: Richard and Sharon Subject: Insecurity Lorraine, you couldn't possibly offend ( well, i guess anyone could) but you certainly didn't. The list seems to get quiet every now and again, but probably because we are being given so many new ideas & thoughts to absorb right now, and some of us need more time than others to fully absorb than others need. It's sort of like when i go on a search and go from link to link then have to work my way back, the original teaching has opened up so many more brain cells that my first impression is so expanded i need time to digest it all. I love your posts, and i think you probably speak for a lot of people than just may not be as open & sharing as you are. Love & light, sharon Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-03/6503 From: Sylvia Miller Subject: Re: Reply to JJ Christopher, I am very interested to hear about your experiences and impression of the other side. When I was 16, my grandmother was on life support. She and I had a very special friendship, and she was my only living grandparent. One Thanksgiving weekend, I had an urge to go see her, and my mother and I drove up to Oklahoma to visit her in the hospital. The hospital gave me the creeps, so my mother sent me to a movie (but now I think it was because she intended to pull the plug.) On my taxi ride back to the hospital, I was suddenly in a tunnel of light with my grandmother. She had been a smoker for most of her life, and she was trying to light a cigarette when I 'arrived'. She was facing me and behind her I could see what looked like a sun emanating a soothing familiar white-golden light. I told her to turn around and go into the light and was very adamant about it until she did. The next thing I knew, I was back in the taxi and I felt a joy and peace with her passing. I've always wondered why I greeted her there since I had always thought that angels did that. Thanks for listening, Sylvia Miller Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-03/6504 From: Sylvia Miller Subject: Re: Reply to JJ Editor's note: Repeat post of No. 6503 Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-03/6505 From: "Dave Curtis" Subject: Re: J.J. Dewey reincarnation of Peter Laura writes: "As a matter of fact, perhaps JJD can elaborate on this." I hope he does, but I have a feeling he will leave that one up to us as well. He probably will hint towards listening to your soul. At least on the part of whether or not he is the reincarnation of Peter/Merlin/Joseph Smith. Honestly, I think it would be wonderful to learn that our teacher used to be one of the great people. On the other hand, it would probably benefit most people to not know. People have a tendency to 'blindly' follow prophets, and if anyone had any reason to believe he was one of these people, they would stop questioning him and never verify anything he said against their soul. You're soul will help you learn what you need to know when the time is right. - Dave Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-03/6506 From: Richard and Sharon Subject: OT Prayers, Love & Light Laura, Please know that our prayer's, love & light are your's & your husband's. and with this list sending you love, there is nothing that can't be manifested. sharon & richard Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-03/6507 From: "Dave Curtis" Subject: Re: Comments 2 Christopher Wynter writes: "A Child knows that Jesus did not say that ..." A child knows Jesus did not say that?? If he did not say that, then what exactly did he say? How does a child even know what he said to begin with? Children are not born with all of the knowledge in the world, otherwise they would not need to be taught. Teaching our children is not 'projection' in any shape or form. Our children know as little about the truth as we do, otherwise they would have no need to be here. The only children that express 'advanced' maturity and common sense have what JJ refers to as an 'old soul'. They've had the experience and are progressing through their advancement at an accelerated rate. Just think about that for a minute. As children grow, they learn and mature. IF they knew as much as you say they do, what's the point of the learning and growing process? Why would we grow up to know LESS than we did when we were a child? That just sounds a little backwards to me. My parents never taught me about the Bible, or Jesus, or anything else about religion. So, if I never had the influence of my parents 'squelching' what Jesus 'really' said, wouldn't I still know? If not, then I must be digressing instead of progressing. Which, if I were doing that, kind of makes my life pointless, doesn't it? - Dave Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-03/6508 From: Brian Weis Subject: Re: Hubbard John Kosior writes: "Oh, and BTW, L. Ron Hubbard (Dianetics, Scientology) died of a heart attack while jogging. So much for being "clear". :)" He could actually JOG?! hee hee ~B. Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-03/6509 From: Richard and Sharon Subject: Keysters Arise Dear John, i am Certain that i thoroughly enjoyed your story, actually all your stories, and i gained wonderful lessons from it I am Certain you enjoy giving, because you do it so joyfully. I am also Certain that the Source i sip from will always sustain me. love & light, sharon Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-03/6510 From: Lorraine Deckard Subject: Thank you Thank you to all of my wonderful new family members for pulling through for me! :) I feel wonderful. I will not take it personally the next time the list goes quiet and all should know that Dennis is now doing the "I told you so" dance. I feel your light and love and connection. Thank you all. John, your parables are fabulous, I look forward to sharing more. And Sharon my sweet sister in love thank you, thank you all. The tree in the circle seems to be about the 7 o'clock position. Maybe because Cancer is in the 7th month? Come, enjoy, we'll leave the light on for ya. Ha Ha Ha :) Going camping in the mountains this weekend will catch up Monday. Love you all. Lorraine Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-03/6511 From: Marylin Subject: Re: insecurity Lorraine writes: "I am insecure and I'm sorry for that. I welcome all comments and questions and I will quit complaining about my love life. Just let me know that all is well." Hi Lorraine I am so sorry you feel as you do. For one, I did not post because I was busy thinking about the signs that are mine and my families. Still am for that matter. I am very happy for you that you have been able to get as far as you have. I look forward to the day when I will also as I am sure a lot of others are. Please don't stop posting. Every bit of information that is posted is of use to at least one of us, most likely more. It's what my parents used to call "learning from the experiences of others". Love, Light, Peace and Harmony Marylin Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-03/6512 From: Marylin Subject: Re: Keysters Arise John Kosior writes: "So when I see my friend again, you can be certain that I will tell him to check the well from which he draws. And I will tell him that if he finds that it has been tainted by the poisons of others, that all he need do is restrict their access to that certain well and allow the Eternal Source to cleanse and purify the water that once healed him. And then to drink again deeply from that Source, for I am certain that he will once again find that certain relief." Hi John This is a most profound story you have given to us. Full of meaning about the power of faith. I surely hope you will write some more. May I sit at your feet and listen? Love, Light, Peace and Harmony Marylin "Oh, and BTW, L. Ron Hubbard (Dianetics, Scientology) died of a heart attack while jogging. So much for being "clear". :)" May he rest in peace. Post No. keys-l: /1999-09-04/6513 Fr