1999 - WEEK 29 Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-19/5688 From: J J Dewey Subject: Selecting A Mate CHAPTER 6 SELECTING A MATE Copyright By J J Dewey People of the world today are greatly deceived into thinking that any two people can get along and be happy together if they both put forth effort, compromise and adapt. All marriage manuals, courses and counselors put much faith and energy into this idea and disregard the all-important principle of selecting the right mate to begin with. Humanity seems to have ignored this point as a key to happiness. While it is true that all people want to marry someone they love, they have no guiding principles to use that will assure them they will actually be happy. If they marry the wrong person, they will find that no amount of Herculean effort will bring stability to the marriage. They will find themselves in the most miserable of all circumstances. Even many apparently stable marriages are made of couples who have resigned themselves to their fate because of fear: fear of breaking religious or society rules, fear of being alone, fear of a lowered standard of living, fear of hurting the children, etc. In understanding the guiding principle of mate selection, we must comprehend the difference between male and female energies, especially as they apply to human beings. Unless this difference is realized and incorporated in mate selection, at least 50% of marriages will start off destined to doom just because of the law of averages. The Apostle Paul understood the difference and wrote around the idea in one of the most controversial and misunderstood passages in the Bible. He said: "Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore, as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing." (Ephesians 5:22-24) A corresponding admonition to Eve in Genesis says: "Thy desire shall be subject to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee." (Genesis 3:16) Many persons are unable to examine these scriptures objectively because they attribute their origination to the narrow-minded views of a male dominated society on women prevalent during that period. They reason that since Paul grew up in a male hierarchy, he wrote to conform to the thinking of that day. This is true to an extent, but we must not make the same mistake as many accuse Paul of doing: we must not miss the underlying truth he is presenting because our pre- conceived views produce narrow-mindedness. Paul explains that this subject introduced is "a great mystery". Part of that great mystery is the basic difference between male and female energies, and they are indeed different. Paul said that wives should submit to their husbands as the head even as the husband submits to the Christ. This is probably the most misunderstood and abused scripture in the Bible. Liberated women of today instinctively rebel against subjection and rightfully shun the fundamentalist teaching of male totalitarian dominion. Paul had no intention of establishing family dictatorships, for he was speaking of male and female energies, BOTH OF WHICH EXIST IN EACH SEX. Male energy is the sending, or radiant, energy. Female energy is the receiving, or magnetic, energy. The mind is a male energy, emotional energy is female; therefore, the male has the energies that control and direct and teach, whereas the female has energies that must learn and be intelligently controlled and directed to obtain stability. On a physical level, the male is the sower of the seed, the female is the receiver of the seed and conceives. On a mental level, the male is the initiator of ideas through his mental energies; the female nurtures and grows the fruit of his ideas through her emotional energies; the fluid (emotions) of her mental "womb", which creates form, provides nourishment for their creation, the child of their combined energies. Through the mental intercourse between male and female energy, powerful thought (male) forms (female) are created. The old saying, "Behind every great man is a great woman" reveals the truth of the interaction of these energies. This is even true when the physical female is dominate in a male society. She dominates through male energy and if she has a male companion he becomes female to her even though he has a male body. The interplay of male and female energies create balance throughout the universe; one is not greater than the other. They are two equal aspects of the one energy of Purpose. In fact these two energies have their own spheres of dominance. In the physical world the male is dominate which is evidenced by his stronger body. His strength easily enables him to overcome the female if he so desires. However in the next sphere of livingness, the world of feeling, the female is heavily dominate. Her emotional strength is much stronger than the male and when the female uses this energy as a lever in the relationship the male usually feels overwhelmed and will yield to the female despite his superior physical strength. Then again the male energy dominates on the next level, the mental. This is why there are more male engineers, mathematicians, inventors and jobs that require pure mental calculations. But then again the female dominates on the next level still which is the intuitive. The female is much more sensitive to higher perceptions beyond the mind as well as much more believing of things the mind cannot explain. Thus we can see hat among these four levels of consciousness and perception that the dominance of the two energies is very equalized. It is true that at various points in time one or the other energy is dominate. During periods of involution (descent into matter), female energy is dominate, and during evolution (ascent out of matter), male energy is dominate. Female energy draws us into matter and creates form, as did Eve symbolically draw Adam and the world into matter and form by eating of the forbidden fruit, which is called the Fall of Man. Male energy pulls us out of matter into spirit, as did the Christ in allowing himself to be crucified so that he could raise the physical body to the plane of the spirit. Both directions are necessary to fulfill the Plan of God in bringing about the creative purpose of the One Life. The female energy takes us into the world of experience, and, after we have played and experimented in the "playground of the Gods," the male energy takes us back home. We must remember that each of us possesses both of these energies no matter which body we occupy. We must all play out roles of being both sender and receiver, but our souls are attracted to either a male or female body in a certain life because, at that point in time, our life force is charged or polarized in that direction; this charge fluctuates in us all from life to life. Thus, if one presently finds herself in a female body, this is an indication that her soul needs to be polarized in that energy to achieve maximum progress and fulfillment through learning and receiving. If one finds himself in a male body, then he must be a sender, initiator, and teacher to satisfy his soul direction. To achieve complete fulfillment, however, we must balance and use both energies within us. The fact that we find ourselves in either a male or female body is merely a statement of our soul's intention that one or the other energy should be dominant, and that we should place our attention there. Paul clearly explains how this subjection of female to male energy is to occur; it is unfortunate that conservative religions have used his teachings as an excuse to deny the female her freedom of expression and limit her freedom of agency and movement. Paul tells wives to submit to their husbands "as unto the Lord" and "as the church (form) is subject to Christ (spirit)." In viewing this scripture, all religions have overlooked the all-important point that a woman cannot submit herself to her husband as unto the Lord if her husband is in a lower state of spiritual evolution than herself. In a marriage relationship, the mate who is at the highest point of progression automatically assumes the role of the sending male energy and becomes the initiator-sender between the two. If a woman, then, marries a man who is at a lower point in evolution and submits herself to him, this corresponds to error of Christ submitting himself to the Church . It would obviously be wrong for Christ to do this because neither party would benefit or progress. The Church has nothing to teach Christ and looses its spiritual life when it tries to assume His role. Unfortunately, this is currently the case. The Church tries to conform the teachings of Christ to its ends and dominion rather than the other way around. Consequently, the spiritual life is virtually non existent. How many spiritually evolved women have been commanded by their religious teachers to submit to their husbands who are less intelligent than themselves? By the law of averages, about 50% of all women pick such mates and by submitting to them, they find themselves in a very uncomfortable and unfulfilling position. Because they are more evolved, they find themselves automatically in the position of the sender-male trying to submit to their husbands, who are receiver-females. Thus, neither party in the relationship is able to balance their energies and both are unhappy no matter how close their personality interests are and how much they strive for harmony. Woman, by nature, must put her attention on balancing her receiving energies to receive fulfillment and fullness of joy in marriage. Since the male energies are those which are leading us toward evolution, then she must find a mate that she can receive evolutionary inspiration from. Therefore, to fulfill her destiny, a woman must find a male more spiritually evolved than herself or else she CANNOT become a receiver as the church is a receiver from Christ. We realize that within one short lifetime that this is not possible for all. Nevertheless, if the female finds herself in a sending position it is much better for her to play out this role of the male energy rather than trying to submit to a male of lower evolution. This point is of extreme importance, for the abuse of it is the root cause of one half of all married couples being unsatisfied. If each female made it a point to marry a man more spiritually evolved than herself to enable her to become a willing receiver, the marriage success rate would jump to about 75%. A success rate higher than this is improbable, for about 25% of all men and women cannot be happy with anyone and are not evolved enough to establish a good bonding relationship. Nevertheless, 75% is a great improvement over 25%. The application of this one principle alone could almost bring in the millennium of peace envisioned by Christianity. (These percentages are rough approximations.) Paul explains the type of relationship the husband should have with the wife: "Husband, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of the water by the word . That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish". (Eph 5:25-27) Just as Christ must be more spiritually evolved than the church before he can "sanctify" and teach it, so must the husband have higher knowledge and spirituality and be able to teach his wife if he is to play the role of the sender. This does not mean that the male species is more evolved as a whole than the female, but it does mean that to find fulfillment, the individual female must find a man more spiritually evolved (or close to being equal) than herself if she is to find a stable, completely fulfilling marriage bond. One can still have a reasonable marriage relationship with the roles reversed, but we are looking for the optimum here. Female energies are receiving energies and if they are united with a male that cannot send to them, then they will find that they must TAKE. When the female finds herself in a taking situation, she often does so quite forcefully to the consternation of both herself and her mate. Her energies force her to be a receiver or taker. She becomes very unstable if she resists this natural energy flow. The male finds himself in a position of either being a natural sender in the relationship or of having his energies "taken" from him. He finds that his soul directs him to be a sender one way or another: either by giving it or by having the female take from him. If he resists this energy flow, he is unstable. True fulfillment only comes when the male is the natural sender and the female the natural receiver. To achieve this fulfillment, two things must happen: First, men and women seeking mates must recognize their natural energy flow and the female must seek a male who is at a higher point of evolution than herself. Thus, the haphazard and random mate selection of today must be replaced by a more scientific one. People must learn to judge with a fair degree of effectiveness the pure intelligence of potential marriage partners. Once it is known what to look for, the female will realize that she cannot be satisfied with a man who cannot naturally send to her. Secondly, the whole marriage order should be changed. About 50% of married couples are unhappy because they are with the wrong mate. The solution, as we pointed out, is not a marriage course or counseling. The solution, unfortunately, is a rather drastic one (from society's point of view): divorce, and remarriage to mates that balance their energies;. "But", says the objector, "divorce is bad. It breaks up families, hurts people and is hard on the children..." In many cases this is true. Many children are sacrificed for selfish purposes when the only real reason for a break up is a desire for a new experience. On the contrary, a bad marriage is worse than divorce. No stable family is created, individuals are hurt daily, and it is much more damaging for the children than living with a single responsible parent. Each woman should examine her mate and ask: Am I unhappy because I am unable to receive from him? Men should ask: Am I unfulfilled because I cannot send to her? If the answer is "yes" , then one should strongly consider divorce and remarriage. If children are involved, such a decision is doubly difficult, but it must be realized that an imbalance of energy affects the children and that a divorce and correct remarriage will actually benefit them. Under the influence of balanced energies, the children will tend to be more stable. In the case of a divorce both parents should do all in their power to see that the children are under the influence of both a mother and a father. It is sad that in many cases one parent will be vindictive and sabotage the relationship of the other spouse with the children. This can create a no win situation. Nevertheless, a black and white attitude in this and all matters should be avoided;. The soul may direct a person to stay with a mate for overriding reasons, but generally, the short period of pain following a divorce is nothing compared to the daily pain of a bad marriage on all family members. In selecting a spouse, the female should not only choose one of a higher evolution, but also one fairly close to her own consciousness. If there is a large gap in evolution between husband and wife, even if the husband is more evolved than the wife, there will also be problems and the bond will be weak. In the case where the man marries a woman too far below him, he will be unable to give to her in fullness because she will not fully appreciate what he has to offer. If we correspond the evolution of mankind with the numbers one through ten, then we will find that males who are a 10 should marry an 8 or 9. If he were to marry a 6 or lower, there would be a gap that would prevent the formation of a strong bond and a stable human Molecule becomes impossible. If a female feels she is a 10 and cannot find a man of higher evolution, yet feels she must get married, then she should select a man as close to herself as possible in progression. Not everyone will find complete fulfillment in relationships in any one life, even if they have complete knowledge, but that knowledge can lead them toward a fullness of joy that their soul cannot withhold from them if they do not cease seeking. The female who is a 10 in evolution and cannot find a sending physical male will find her spiritual fulfillment and balance in higher contacts that she will make A major objection many may have to divorce will be on religious beliefs, but this should not be a deterrent if one examines the Bible. Jesus gives the one reason that couples may justifiably divorce: "But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery". (Matt. 5:32) Here we have another scripture that has been greatly misunderstood and has caused much trouble in the world. Many religions have forbidden divorce because of these words of Jesus. Notice that Jesus said that the only justifiable cause of divorce is "fornication". The prevalent belief among Christians is that fornication is sex between two unmarried persons or between two married people not married to each other. But here Jesus uses fornication as an act between married couples. Therefore, the meaning intended by Jesus is not the one attributed to the word by people of today. Actually, fornication may not even involve sex, for in the context it is used throughout the Bible, it means "to be alienated from" or "to remove one's heart from". Thus, if the wife's heart is alienated from her husband, he may justifiably divorce her. God often called Israel his wife and when she committed fornication against Him and removed her heart from the true God and worshipped idols, she committed fornication against Him and He gave Israel, his wife, a bill of divorcement. Thus, it is with people. If their energies are not correctly matched and balanced, they commit fornication and become alienated and should get a divorce. On the other hand, if their energies are balanced and the husband divorces a wife who has given her heart to him, he "causeth her to commit adultery". In other words, he causes her heart to forcibly seek someone else who may be at a wrong point of evolution. "And whosoever shall marry her that is divorced (wrongfully divorced) committeth adultery". If a man marries a woman whose heart is still with her original husband, there is produced an imbalance of energy and this is what true adultery and fornication are. The question will naturally arise as to how one is to find another at the correct point of evolution. How is one to tell whether or not he is a five, seven, or ten? Pinpointing a person's correct point of evolution is indeed difficult. We could take pages outlining an approximate procedure, but even if correct principles are spelled out the average person would not use them correctly. In mate selection, the primary concept that should concern the female is the question: Is the man, I am considering capable of sending to me and stimulating my spiritual evolution? Can he teach me and lift me up to higher realms of consciousness? Does he comprehend true principles faster than I do? Does a natural giving come from him to me? Am I close to him in spiritual evolution? Do I feel confident in trusting his judgment? The male should ask himself: Does she seem to be leading me or do I naturally tend to lead her? Do I enjoy telling her things I believe? Am I able to teach her and pull her up to a higher consciousness? Does she respond when I mentally give to her? Does she love me for my mind as well as emotional stimulation? Am I the natural giver and she the natural receiver in the relationship? Both parties should seek for confirmation in the relationship from their own souls and intuition through prayer, meditation, or contemplation. If their marriage is the right direction they can both receive an endowment of soul energy as a spiritual testimony to the correctness of their relationship. If they desire further confirmation they may seek the advice of another who they respect as a person of high spiritual evolution. This third person may then receive a revelation for them as a second establishing witness. Nevertheless, individual soul confirmation must always be the supreme influence. Question: Rick brings up an interesting point of discussion. There are many who are in male bodies who feel a strong pull in the female direction and many in the female who feel a strong pull in the male. We have given hints as to why this is so. What do you think? And what about gays? What kind of charge in energy would males and females have in this situation and why? Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-199/5689 From: Travis Tabbal Subject: Re: Service J J Dewey wrote: possible. In fact when one first enters upon the path it is sometimes difficult to think or be concerned with anything else. The aspirant desires to climb and learn and progress with almost an obsession at times. He may be happy to rub shoulders with other seekers and share knowledge to a degree, but to serve others at the expense of his learning and progression is often far from his mind." I think people loose sight of that fact that to REALLY learn something, you must teach it. I have found many times that I thought I knew something really well only to try and teach someone and find that I haven't seen all the possibilities. "The Ancient of Days who is the voice for the Planetary Logos set the example for us." Planetary Logos??? huh? "One may ask: "Doesn't everyone accept freedom?" Nope. Very few people understand freedom. Many think they support it, but then something comes up and they want to restrict it. Take one hot issue on the 'net of late: Porn. Many people don't like it for one reason or another. Many would love to see it censored. I can understand keeping kids out, and rules against kiddie porn. But if everyone involved is of legal age, I fail to see the problem. This is one of those areas that I say "I may not like what you do, but if you are not hurting anyone else by doing it I will defend to the death your right to do it." "Glenys spoke wisely when she said: "The attitude seems to be 'we believe in freedom for all as long as it is our definition of freedom that we're talking about." I agree. I could not put it better than that. ;) "If one is unbiased he will see the virtues of both arguments but few seem to be objective here." Abortion is a hard one to be objective about. However, whatever I may think of it I don't think it's the government's place to make a call like that. So I must leave it to the people directly involved in each case and hope they make the best decision they can. I consider this following the highest I know. I would rather see the child born and given up for adoption, there are many people who would be great parents but cannot have children themselves for some reason. I see that as the best solution for everyone. But I also feel that to take away another's freedom of decision is harmful. The only method I have heard about I would call murder directly is "partial birth abortion", where the baby is in the process if being born and is killed before the full birth. While in the womb, it's hard to determine where "life" or "sentience" begins. Since I can't decide for myself, I don't support the government's, or anyone not directly involved to make the decision for the rest of us. As much as it may pain me to hear about abortion taking place, it pains me more to see people's power of decision erased. I'll accept that some consider all abortion murder. And I respect your right to decide that, for yourself. Please accept others rights to decide since not even science can determine it. If it cannot be proven, it is opinion, not fact. Laws should never be written based on opinion. "We are going to explore this important principle in more detail. Question: If both sides of the fence have their arguments for freedom how does one decide which decision to make or which side to take?" "Let us take an example. The State decides to increase taxes of the people without their consent and give the money to retired people." "The results are that the people taxed have less freedom, but the retired people have more freedom." "Since one group of people are being given more freedom is the basic principle of freedom being followed here? If not, why?" No, the principle of freedom is not being followed. To steal, for whatever reason, is to break the principle of freedom and harmlessness. And taxation is stealing, plain and simple. It is the removal of something that someone works for by another person or group without the decision of the owner. It does not matter that the "government" did it. Consider this: If I were an employer and paid someone an hourly wage of $6 and decided to "tax" $2/hr of that wage, I am stealing. I could say it pays for the bathrooms or some such, but the fact remains that I agreed to pay someone $6/hr and I only let them have $4/hr. I work 100+ days out of the year before I make any money. The government gets that. That is stealing. Now, consider the scenario where I decide I am NOT going to let them take my money. Well, they will huff and puff for a while then decide to seize my property. Say I own a reasonably nice house. They come in to evict me and take my house away. They can also freeze my bank accounts etc.. So they show up to take my house. Say I decide to defend my property. They are trying to steal it, I am defending it. They will come in with the police, and probably the army (if I'm armed) and I will probably die defending my property. And according to government, I would be in the wrong. Why? Because I wanted to keep what was mine. It is quite literally highway robbery. They are pointing guns at me and saying "Your money, or your life". (Incidentally, there is an excellent book by that title available discussing this issue) If I refuse to give them my money I will lose my life, either by getting killed defending it, or getting thrown in prison. Oh, and I don't get a jury trial, or even due process before they can steal everything I own! I have to prove I'm NOT guilty, to a judge. "innocent until proven guilty" doesn't apply in tax cases. And the IRS is exempt from most of the laws our police are subject to regarding search and seizure and civil rights. This is all a direct result of income tax. Because in order to collect the taxes, they can't have anything in the way that may slow the flow of money. And people have a desire to keep what is theirs. So they try everything they can to do so. Thus the taxman needs broad sweeping power to keep the money coming in to keep the government's huge wasteful programs going. Not to mention, this takes away money that I could be saving for when I have to retire! Now I don't have any money to save, and could become dependant on government handouts when I get old. This type of program creates a cycle of dependency that is difficult to break. And it removes my freedom of decision, of what to do with the compensation I receive from my job. I should be free to decide how to use the funds I receive from a hard day at work. I shouldn't have to participate in a government retirement program that I don't want to be part of. I should be able to "opt out" if I want to. Meaning that I am not eligible for benefits, but I don't have to pay for them either. Social Security has an overhead approaching 80%! This is money spent of the beauracrats, that cannot go to the elderly that were promised help. If a private company were run like that, it would go under quicker then you can blink. But the government just steals more money from the rest of us to make up for the losses!! There is NO excuse for this. It should be noted that before the government got into the act, forcing everyone to give up their money, Americans were the most charitable people on earth. Maybe we still are, but it's hard to be charitable when you're having 30%+ of your paycheck stolen right off the top. Now many people feel that since the government keeps using the poor or the old or whatever charity cause it is this week as an excuse to keep raising taxes that the government should be taking care of it. And it's not. It can't. It's too wasteful for that. The poor were BETTER OFF before the government got involved. So were the elderly! Personally, I'd love to be able to help others. And I do when I can. But most of the time I'm strapped for cash attempting to take care of my needs and have little left for giving away. If I had that other 30% available, I would be much more able to help others. This is becoming a rant, so I will close with a proposed solution for the problem JJ stated. The old people. Dismantle the social security system and buy insurance policies from a private firm to manage the payments and such they were promised. Sell off all the equipment the social security administration uses, and take all the salaries from the employees and use that money to pay for the insurance. This must be private sector insurance, no more government. Stop taking money from the people when the insurance is paid for. And make it clear that everyone is responsible for themselves. Those of us that are not elderly can fend for ourselves with IRAs and such. We don't need the government. And if we are irresponsible and don't take care of it, it's our problem. Oh, and pull out those tax forms and look at the line for how much you had to pay in taxes last year. No, not the refund line. Up above, before the calculation for how much you already paid via withholding. How much they figure you should have paid them. Consider if everyone were asked to pay that on April 15 (no withholding during the year). If everyone were told to pay up 30% of their yearly earnings on April 15, to actually write a check to the government for it, I firmly believe there would be an uprising of the people and civil war. Personally, I'm surprised it hasn't happened already. As a people, we are in worse shape then the colonists were when they rose up and created this country. 30% is just income tax. That doesn't include all the other taxes you pay. IIRC, all that's missing is for the government to ban guns, then we'll be in similar shape to the original 13 colonies. Travis Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-19/5690 From: Paul Yu Subject: Re: Selecting A Mate Hi J J and everyone, Polarity is an aspect of the universal structure of triad. In the triad of the mental, emotional and physical aspects of the human personality the polarity is consisted of the mental and physical bodies rather than the mental and the emotional. The emotional body permeates both the mental and the physical bodies. Thus on the side of the mental body the emotions are active in nature being the result of the giving aspect of love and on the side of the physical body the emotions are passive in nature being the result of the receiving aspect of love. Man's and woman's emotions are characteristically different from each other as the male polarity is on the mental side and the female polarity on the physical side. Men usually react emotionally to reasons while women to consequences. Men normally react emotionally so as to forcefully and methodically carry out plans while women normally react emotionally so as to flexibly and realistically endure and tolerate concrete situations to achieve results. Consequently men are typically more rational than intuitive and women more intuitive than rational. Emotions is the bridge between the mind and the body. Emotions are wherever thoughts are as well as wherever activities are. It is neutral or rather share the space of both the mind and the body. Emotions are the forces to manifest the will of the mind expressed through thoughts as well as the forces to carry out that will coupled with love or desire by means of activities. Paul Yu SpiritualityABC SpiritualityESOTERIC http://onelist.com Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-19/5691 From: John Kosior Subject: Re: Selecting A Mate J J Dewey wrote: "Question: Rick brings up an interesting point of discussion. There are many who are in male bodies who feel a strong pull in the female direction and many in the female who feel a strong pull in the male. We have given hints as to why this is so. What do you think?" Hi All, These are issues which seem to perplex the many people with which I associate. Even those who are the most highly evolved within their sphere of thinking and who believe they have uncovered the mystery of it all can often be extremely deluded. It seems apparent to me that due to an overwhelming desire and pull toward balance, many folks who are endowed with otherwise high initiative and intelligence go out to "find" their own balance. And the methods they employ in the finding are legion. Some will use a static method, where they isolate themselves from all deep association with others, whether that be mental, spiritual, or even sexual. When this occurs, the mind will center upon itself to such a degree that it beholds its own "imbalance" toward the male or female energy. Then, almost by instinct, what they pursue becomes an experience within their isolated self that they feel will bring them toward an experience of balance. All of which seems like highly evolved thinking, but in reality, is only a form of spiritual masturbation. Whether they invoke this knowingly or blindly, the result becomes an impossible journey filled with confusion. For no matter which side they identify with in any moment, they cannot of themselves achieve absolute balance. This is due to the over all design of creation and life within this realm. That design demands that we seek another to balance ourselves and one for which we might hold balance. This is the force which propels creation into evoluting beyond itself. As such, it is the highest good and when understood will inevitably foster great joy. But before full understanding, if one is resolute in the finding of their own balance, it's easy to see why they find themselves confused and playing out roles that are not always in their own best interest. But before I begin to sound judgmental in this regard, I must say that these people are no more to be judged than one who pursues happiness by way of financial success, or safety by way of domination. They are each merely on a step of learning or a revealing plateau from which they will eventually discover that the answer to their pressing need for security or balance is satisfied by embracing their imbalance, rather than pursuing their balance. "And what about gays? What kind of charge in energy would males and females have in this situation and why?" These folks are those who have convinced themselves that they need not receive balance from the "opposing" energy of the opposite sex. Their error is not in their sexuality, but in seeing the other sex as an opposition to their own balance, rather than one of its key elements. Most gay folks that I have known are extremely intelligent and insightful. But inside of their advanced intellect, you will always find one bent arrow which every time it's used, always misses the target. Such, then the greatest need for those in a gay lifestyle is not found in guilt from nor defense of their position, but in a reevaluation of their motivation toward balance. If one could infuse themselves with the understanding that JJ is offering in the Molecular Relationship, the result would be the straightening of the arrow, and a healing of all the wounds they have suffered. Even the wounds which were given them by members of the opposite sex. Overall, I must say that this is one of the final key elements to be understood by humanity in this age. Those who receive this key will very quickly resolve the contradiction that has before driven them to seek balance in the sameness of another, rather than allowing the experience of true balance to occur from within the differentness of another. Thanks JJ. This series of chapters you've shared are among the most clear and engaging I've found on not just the importance of balance, but also the path to balance. With All Blessings, John Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-19/5692 From: "David Curtis" Subject: Re: Selecting A Mate J J Dewey writes: "Question: Rick brings up an interesting point of discussion. There are many who are in male bodies who feel a strong pull in the female direction and many in the female who feel a strong pull in the male. We have given hints as to why this is so. What do you think?" And what about gays? What kind of charge in energy would males and females have in this situation and why?" Here is a wild guess, but it's something I was once taught by another teacher in the past. Let's say you are on life 500, and you just spend the last 350 as a female. Then, suddenly, you decide you are going to be male in this life. The transition from female to male could be anything but smooth. It may be difficult for the individual in question to accept their life as a male, and they may still feel a strong pull from the female side. So it may take a couple of lives as a male to get used to the concept. This could also explain gays. After being female for so many lifetimes, and choosing male, they may still feel a strong attraction to the male sex. After a lifetime or two as a male, the physical attraction to the opposite sex should become so strong they can no longer resist it, and they should be realigned with their true male energies. - Dave Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-19/5693 From: John Kosior Subject: Tolerance (OT) Hi Folks, I came home late last night from hanging out with a new friend. One who I've considered to be of high understanding. But before I left my friends house, I found myself being put on a spiritual operating table by the very one I had such respect for. He simply tried to pull me apart, and basically called every item of thought I had "dimestore philosophy". Now to scratch my ego, you'd have to have much longer arms than that, but I find myself saddened to find that nothing I can say and nothing I can do can break through this ultimate field of illusion. Neither does this have effect on the ego, but it's striking some major chords in my compassion. So anyway, when I arrived home I wrote a few verses that reflected the intensity I was feeling at the time. This wasn't done for the purpose of delivery, but I thought I'd share with all of you, and perhaps then I can let this go. So here it is. It's my reaction to the brick wall of tolerance. Tolerance *** You see they smile all the time But they're just making you think their mind While all the while you hear them say That they really don't care anyway *** They'll tolerate your crazy things Unless of course to them it brings The slightest change or variation Upon their knowing explanation *** I find my heart and mind are reeling From the deepest sense of what I'm feeling That just beyond the golden dome It's really only steel and chrome *** And steel and chrome are never warm They're cold and hard and don't conform They mold and form and tolerate But they buckle under a little weight *** Were chrome not hidden behind the gold With stories lied when stories told Then beauty and goodness might just come through Friendship found. Friendship true. *** If only I could have seen before The open mind behind a door I would have known to save the day And never sent my mind away *** But then they smile all the time And still they try to read your mind They only see what they want to see But with all they know they don't know me *** The soul and mind and flesh and life None are safe from the wielding knife Which cuts in deep so it can see Whatever it wishes to see in me *** But far above the noisy din The place I dwell. The place within I see the act. I see the show And try to bend so they can grow *** But I'm so tired of this fragrant strife With words like peace and words like life Perhaps with love or benevolence I'll overcome their tolerance *** Thanks for reading the thoughts I have. It helps to have others who listen. It helps to keep me from exploding. :) With Peaceful Blessings, John Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-19/5694 From: (Richard/ Sharon) Subject: Tolerance OT Hi John, you write so beautifully and so insightfully, i guess we all must learn in our own way that just because someone presents themselves as being on the spiritual path, doesn't mean they are, we have found those that have discovered many spiritual seekers are nothing more than "easy pickin's" for them, and then those that simply want to prove us wrong and foolish for whatever warped reasons of their own, thank goodness for this list, we feel so much more comfortable with this family we have never met in the physical, but our souls seem to have touched. in sincere and deep love, sharon & richard ^I^ ^I^ Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-19/5695 From: John Kosior Subject: (OT) More Verse *** I wish I had some way to say These things in verse in a normal way But since my mind is so inclined I hope all of you won't mind *** If I take this time to help break through To greener land and cleaner dew As you can tell I'm a bit befuddled So I look for friends with which to huddle *** And take some time to analyze These thoughts that I just now realize That even at my level best I cannot reach all the rest *** And painful thoughts of other's woe It just hurts my heart when they won't grow And even though it's not forever They hurt themselves from their endeavor *** To see and mind our brothers and friends Seems ever so simple, our means to all ends So why would they struggle and why do they fight Only so to know they're right? *** I know it's true, I've seen their quiver Refusing to hear what I might deliver But furthest from what's understood I wonder why they think I would *** Describe the things that they do not see Don't they know it's what they do for me If only Presence would intervene I wonder what would then be seen *** I'm hardly looking for flashing lights And sure I'm not afraid to fight But I've reached a wall I cannot scale I can't succeed and dare not fail *** Now I sense what you might say "Hold on to right, that's the way" And speak from heart with mind and Presence But I must try to describe the essence *** Of things I care. For things I fight That I might help one get it right For if one in my circle falls It's more than them which darkness calls *** For in the darkest black of night What we each need is to shine some light On things which falter and hurt our friends Their life is what we will defend *** So realize this is not just verse As I didn't need to rehearse These things which flow like conversation I only speak from adoration *** I love God's creatures, both big and small They are all the beloved of the All So I cannot stop these thoughts and quips They seem to roll from off my lips *** For reasons more than I can know I think it's love that makes things grow And if loving arms can embrace the beast We'll love much more. But that's just the least *** We'll also turn gray skies to blue With our hearts revealed Both me and you We'll look to east and we'll look to west And in both places we'll find rest *** But only when all things are known Can we ever share what we've been shone So if you find a way to share Be bold and strong and don't beware *** For they'll hate you and need you at the same time They'll trash you and fight you No reason or rhyme All in defense of things that they know Instead of just helping each other to grow *** I wish I could measure my words down to one But perfect I'm not but just wait, I'm not done "In light and in laughter" I think Zia would say I'll mind this in thought, I think it's the way *** But before I bid you a fond farewell There is one more thing that I think I must tell I love you and need you to be all that you can For the better you are, the better I am *** I hope that I've caused no undue offense I hope that you'll understand my defense I hope that you know I hope you won't quit For in the hope of our friendship, a candle is lit Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-19/5696 From: Marilyn Maple Subject: Re: Tolerance (OT) John, this is BEAUTIFUL. Thank you for sharing such soul searching thoughts & feelings. You have put into words what I've felt for years about the way my family reacts to my beliefs & growth. Namaste' AnglNTrng2 (Mare) Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-20/5697 From: Rick Audette Subject: Re: Selecting A Mate John says "Even those who are the most highly evolved within their sphere of thinking and who believe they have uncovered the mystery of it all can often be extremely deluded. It seems apparent to me that due to an overwhelming desire and pull toward balance, many folks who are endowed with otherwise high initiative and intelligence go out to "find" their own balance. And the methods they employ in the finding are legion. Some will use a static method, where they isolate themselves from all deep association with others, whether that be mental, spiritual, or even sexual. When this occurs, the mind will center upon itself to such a degree that it beholds its own "imbalance" toward the male or female energy. Then, almost by instinct, what they pursue becomes an experience within their isolated self that they feel will bring them toward an experience of balance. All of which seems like highly evolved thinking, but in reality, is only a form of spiritual masturbation. Whether they invoke this knowingly or blindly, the result becomes an impossible journey filled with confusion. For no matter which side they identify with in any moment, they cannot of themselves achieve absolute balance. This is due to the over all design of creation and life within this realm. That design demands that we seek another to balance ourselves and one for which we might hold balance. This is the force which propels creation into evoluting beyond itself. As such, it is the highest good and when understood will inevitably foster great joy. But before full understanding, if one is resolute in the finding of their own balance, it's easy to see why they find themselves confused and playing out roles that are not always in their own best interest. But before I begin to sound judgmental in this regard, I must say that these people are no more to be judged than one who pursues happiness by way of financial success, or safety by way of domination. They are each merely on a step of learning or a revealing plateau from which they will eventually discover that the answer to their pressing need for security or balance is satisfied by embracing their imbalance, rather than pursuing their balance." I have to agree with all of this. I would like to clarify, in my own case, this is what is being played out, because my physical vehicle predisposes me to playing out the game on that field. But, just because that is what I have to work with, doesn't mean I am not aware of the fact that I am only playing a game. I have known, since childhood, that I had an important masculine mission to perform in this life. Thirty-one years ago, I wrote in my diary that it would someday be my job to lead a large family or tribe, something like being an Indian Chief. I have been in countless leadership positions, from the time I was a Cub Scout, through numerous foreman positions, elected public office and now the founder of perhaps the best little mail list in cyber space. I have had jobs that are about as macho as they come and still found myself in charge. I have fought in hand to hand combat, armed only with a pocket knife, and won over much larger guys than me. Problem is, in this day in age, there are darn few women that are feminine enough to be a good match to the male energies in me. The few I have met were already paired up and I am too much of a gentleman to mess with that. I've been through three marriages that didn't work. The lack of adequate femininity seems to lead me to manufacturing my own, but I know I am only creating a plastic model of the real thing and would drop it, in a heart beat, if the real thing came along. I benefit from playing at it, because I play it well and can gain, from my own self, what is lacking in the real world. I've painted such a good picture of the feminine that it's scary at times. "Rebecca" gets about ten times more hits on her web page, mostly from guys. Hopefully, by painting a clear picture of what I want, I'll have a better chance of knowing it when I see the real thing. Despite all the pain in the past, I'm still looking for the woman that would be the match for me. Something tells me, the best place to look might very well be among Keysters, present or future, but beyond that, not so subtle, hint I'll drop the subject, because my fem side knows what a turn off a man on the make can be. Okay, enough out of me for one night, I'll climb back up into my tree and sleep. Your BROTHER, Rick -- ICQ 19753992 visit my web pages at http://www.ont.com/users/rea1/ have you read "The Immortal" http://www.freeread.com Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-20/5698 From: "Christopher Wynter" Subject: The Male/Female Thingy Perhaps ...it would be wise to consider that most men spend approximately the first nine months of their lives in the environment of the female womb ... and then spend the next few years dependant on 'Mother' for their survival ... During this time the fetus is imprinted by conscious and unconscious thought projections from the mother ... which, depending on the level of their intensity, can (and do) cause physical mutation in the hypothalamus which is the response centre within the brain for the coping/reaction function. During this time your perception of your own soul was defined by mother's thoughts ... Before either male or female can attain any spirituality, the belief that "Mother is greater than God" must be overcome within the body physical ... Could I, as one who now understands the issues of my mother ... (and because of that understanding finds nothing that needs forgiving ...) respectfully suggest that Male and Female should look beyond the superficial issues they have with one another ... to the attitudes and beliefs of the mother who made them ... and at the same time, look at how many of their own resentments were inherited from the parental role model?? The relationship between Male and Female in partnerships degenerates into a series of reactions based on the Matriarchal influences on both sexes ... these reactions come from the body ... and unless the nature of imprinting is understood, the physical body will cease being the life support system for the head ... With Respect Christopher Wynter, Hobart Tasmania wynter@bigpond.com http://www.anunda.com Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-20/5699 From: Anni Ida West Subject: Re: Tolerance (OT) *** The seeds of truth will sprout at last - a friend have sowed them in the past - and though you might not see this deed your words could well have been the seed. *** I thank you , John, with love and light for sharing all your joy and fight. Beloved John, to you I send a "HUG" and love as keyster friend. Anni Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-20/5700 From: J J Dewey Subject: Sex and Knowing God I think you'll find this next chapter interesting. We'll backtrack soon and cover more details from previous questions. THE MOLECULAR RELATIONSHIP Copyright by J J Dewey CHAPTER SEVEN SEX AND KNOWING GOD As we arrive at the cusp of the New Age men and women are asking questions about the right use of sex as they never have before. Many have broken off from the authority syndrome and are trying to decide for themselves concerning the use of sex. Let us shed some light on this subject which has, in the past, been approached with such philosophical obscurity. To comprehend the answers one must understand the purpose of marriage and sex as it applies to man and woman. The Bible gives us some help here. In the Old Testament Hebrew two words are translated as "man." The first is ADAM and the second is IYSH. ADAM is sometimes translated as "man" and sometimes literally as "Adam." ADAM is not the name of a person, but of a racial being that is the hermophrodidiac combination of male and female in the image of God: "Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called THEIR name Adam, in the day when they were created." Gen 5:2 On the other hand, the word IYSH refers to the single male only. The word ADAM should not have been translated "man" as IYSH was for it refers to a certain type of man. Genesis 2:26-27, where we have a description of the sixth creation day, is an example of ADAM being translated as "man" in all Bibles. Let's transliterate ADAM as it reads in the Hebrew as "Adam" and see how it reads: "And God said, Let us make Adam in our image, after our likeness...So God created Adam in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." This scripture is especially interesting when we read it in the light of the next chapter which tells us that "on the seventh day God ended his work..." Gen 2:2 On the seventh day, then, we are told that the "end" or last work of God was the creation of woman. She was taken out of the man and brought to him: "And Adam said, This is the bone of my bones, and the flesh of my flesh: she shall be called woman because she was taken out of man. Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh." Gen 2:23-24 If woman was not created until the seventh day then who was the female mentioned as existing during the sixth day? The amazing answer as we shall illustrate is that the male and female were united in one body during the sixth day and were divided in two on the seventh day. Enlightenment on this mystery is revealed in the Hebrew word for God. In the first part of Genesis ELOHIYM is used. This is a strange word because it is plural and has been literally translated as "Gods." The mystifying part is that it is used with a singular verb. In other words, if the first part of Genesis were translated literally it would read: "In the beginning Gods creates the heavens and the earth." Translators have generally used God (singular) for ELOHIYM because of the belief in one God and it also goes with the verb. On the contrary, we know that God is not singular because later it reads: "And God (ELOHIYM) said, Let US make ADAM in our image..." Thus we see that God is more than one entity and Adam was made in its (or their) image. How is God plural? This is indicated in the word itself. The first part of the word is EL and is masculine and means "strong." The second part of the word is thought to come from ALAH which means "to covenant." This part of the word is feminine. It also is thought by some scholars to correspond to the name of the Muslim God "Allah." If we place the meanings together we can say that ELOHIYM, or God, means "strong covenant." If we add the fact that the male and female genders in the word indicate the "us" that makes the word plural are a male and female united we can say that God, or ELOHIYM, is "a male and female united through a strong covenant." Verily, this is the power that created the heavens and the earth and in this light the first verse of Genesis could be translated as: "In the beginning male and female energies united by strong covenants (or bonds) to create the heavens and the earth." This agrees with our previous statement that all manifested form was created through the marriage of opposing energies of the one wavelength. Genesis continues and tells us that God made Adam in his own image "male and female created he them." God, who is male and female united by a strong covenant, created Adam, who was the image of God, or male and female united by a strong covenant... This first Adam was created out of the non-physical (from our point of view) ethers and was like a living cell with male and female united into one. He was a reflection of the Divine Hermaphrodite God with all the capabilities of reproduction. The "Fall" occurred shortly after man was divided into two sexes. At this point, his energies became out of balance and the Adams fell away from the powers of godliness that was their divine right. These powers can only be regained by a person cleaving (making a strong covenant) unto his opposing energy and becoming "one flesh" as they were before the Fall. The greatest of masters, the Christ, made a comment on this: "The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, 'Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?' And he answered and said unto them, 'Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them (the Adams) male and female (hermaphrodites), And said, For this cause (because they were in the beginning male and female in one) shall a man leave father and mother (leave the separate duality), and shall cleave unto his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh. Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore, God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. "They say unto him, 'Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement and to put her away?' "He saith unto them, 'Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.' " (Matt. 19:3-8) Jesus understood the fact that man was in the beginning a hermaphrodite, that male and female could not get divorced and that man must eventually evolve back to that state. To initiate evolution in that direction, man and woman must unite themselves through a strong covenant like the ELOHIYM and represent, as close as possible, "the image of God". To make such a strong covenant that can survive even death and continue into eternity, God must join the couple together. When the two are both at the correct state of evolution so they can balance each other's energies, they can, as previously stated, receive a soul confirmation on each other. Without this godlike confirmation, God has not placed them together and divorce may actually be advisable. But if the confirmation is received, then a marriage covenant should be made that should never be broken by the will of man, for what God puts together should only be separated by God, if separated at all. The marriages throughout the world should be rearranged so each one is confirmed by the powers of godliness working through the soul; then they should not be separated by the little wills of man, but should seek continually the divine male and female union as if in the image of God. Jesus continues to expand this principle: "And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication (her heart is not with her husband), and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away (unjustly) doth commit adultery. (See previous explanation). His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry. "But he saith unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given. For there are some eunuchs (those who do not marry and have sex) which were born from their mothers' womb (these are they who are unable to consummate sex): and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men (men who were castrated): and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it." (Matt. 19:9-12) The third category of eunuchs are those who have not received a soul confirmation to marry yet retain all their procreative parts; in other words, they have not been joined together by God to the opposite sex. Jesus said that all people cannot "receive this saying" or incorporate it into their lives, but those who cannot find a suitable marriage partner for an eternal bond should be a Eunuch for the Kingdom of God. He should covenant not to marriage but toward the kingdom of God and fulfilling the purposes of God. To be a true eunuch, he would abstain from sexual intercourse until God, through his soul, joins him with a marriage partner. As Jesus said this concept is not for everyone who is single, but only those who are "able' to receive it. Nevertheless, he who does become a eunuch for the kingdom of God will obtain great power to focus his spiritual energies. What is the core principle as to what is right and wrong with sex? Humanity has long cried out for an answer and none has been delivered. Nevertheless, mankind needs to know, for if he has not a sure guide, he will not be able to choose correctly and will always follow the path of least resistance. To tell a person who desires sex that "God thinks it's a sin" does not carry the needed weight in this enlightened age. Therefore, let us seek the true principle. In ancient days, sexual intercourse was described by the Hebrew word YADA, or the Greek work GINOSKO, which meant "to know". When a man had sex with a woman, he was said to have "known" her. Here are several examples: "Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife: And KNEW (GINOSKO) her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name Jesus." (Matt. 1: 24-25) "And Adam KNEW (YADA) Eve his wife, and she conceived and bare Cain." (Gen. 4:1) "And Cain KNEW his wife and she conceived..." (Gen. 4:17) "And Adam KNEW his wife again and she bare a son, and called his name Seth." (Gen. 4:25) This word is especially revealing when we examine it's use in the following verse: "And this is life eternal, that they might KNOW (GINOSKO) thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent." (John 17:3) Other references are: "Then Manasseh KNEW that the Lord he was God." (II Chron 33:13) "They KNEW he was the Christ." (Luke 4:41) "Be still and KNOW that I am God." (Psalms 46:10) "All shall (eventually) KNOW me, from the least to the greatest." (Heb. 8:11) "I am the good shepherd, and KNOW my sheep, and am KNOWN of mine. As the Father KNOWETH me, even so KNOW I the Father." (John 10:14-15) All these quotations are translated from the same equivalent Hebrew or Greek word. Why was the ancient method of expressing sexual intercourse the same as that used for establishing spiritual intercourse with God or the Christ? Is there something similar about a person knowing his opposite and man knowing God? Christ even presents an interesting correspondence of sex when he says: "If any man hear my voice and open the door, I WILL COME IN TO HIM, and will sup with him and he with me." (Rev 3:20) When a man has sex with a woman there is produced union of the divided sacral energies. This produces a "knowing" of each other, a high physical sensation. Since each of us are a part of the projection of God, then we can know God by knowing our other half that completes that projection. The two halves are united and we finally know the whole, or the "one flesh" in the physical sense. The sacral and the solar plexus centers, which influence our desire energies, unite during the average sexual act and produce high physical and emotional stimulation during above-average sex. These two, however, are the lowest centers of feeling and are a mere reflection of the feelings of God, or the feelings of our highest attainable human consciousness. The next major center, which is higher than the sacral and solar plexus centers, is the heart center, which projects love-wisdom energies. It is the center of the Christ consciousness and sends out the energy of pure unselfish love. Less than 10% of humanity are able to have interplay of a significant degree with this center, but those who do will know the meaning of spiritual sex. The sensations and knowing are on a higher plane. The feelings are much more spiritual and the sensations much more fulfilling. Those who do not share the heart energies will always feel that something is lacking in their sex life even if they reach a full physical climax with each act. The sharing of the heart energies in their fullness is higher in exquisiteness than the sharing of the lower energies, just as the moon is brighter than the stars in light. The highest major area to be shared is the head centers, or the world of the mind. The heart centers can be shared when people advance into the higher use of the mind. These people have understand how to work with mental substance and have learned the use of common sense and unselfish love. The head centers cannot be shared to a great degree until both parties move up to the world of the intuition where they become one in vision. Here they open up communication with the God Within and commune with the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, a great trinity of sharing. These sensations are higher than any sexual experience man has imagined. The mind sensations are higher than the heart just as the sun is higher than the moon, and a grand celestial knowing and union at three levels are experienced that goes far beyond any result produced by a sensuous sex manual. When a couple have known each other on these three levels, their consciousness has then together entered the presence of God. This conscious sharing from the solar plexus, heart and head energies then continues at all times when they act and think in oneness, even when they are not having sex. The sexual act merely serves as a source of recharging these energies and to remind the couple of the threefold union they should share 24 hours a day, even in each other's absence. This, then, is the ideal that all men and women are driven to seek: Union in the three worlds until the presence of God is entered, and Christ and eventually the Father come into the union and "sup" with them. The Father and the Son will be one and we will be one with them. Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-20/5701 From: "Jennifer Hampson" Subject: Poetry and Prose Yes, you've done it again John - it's such a gift you have - thank you for sharing it with us. And JJ, I am finding The Molecular Relationship so very deeply satisfying. Love Jennifer Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-20/5702 From: Paul Yu Subject: Re: Selecting A Mate Rick Audette writes: "The lack of adequate femininity seems to lead me to manufacturing my own, but I know I am only creating a plastic model of the real thing and would drop it, in a heart beat, if the real thing came along. I benefit from playing at it, because I play it well and can gain, from my own self, what is lacking in the real world." Hi Rick and everyone, What you have described of the measures you took in dealing with the sexual energies, Rick, is precisely the path of evolution. It seemed incidental not being able to find adequate femininity in your environment so much so that you had to create a plastic model of the real thing. But it conformed perfectly with the evolutional model. Once you balanced the polarized sexual energies within yourself the real thing would appear out there so you could express on the outside what you had achieved on the inside. Paul Yu SpiritualityABC SpiritualityESOTERIC http://onelist.com Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-20/5703 From: Marylin Subject: Re: Selecting A Mate J J Dewey writes: "Question: Rick brings up an interesting point of discussion. There are many who are in male bodies who feel a strong pull in the female direction and many in the female who feel a strong pull in the male. We have given hints as to why this is so. What do you think?" I think that those of us in the female body with a strong or lesser pull to the male side have chosen to be in a female body in this life because we have leaned a bit too much to the male side in previous incarnations. It is necessary to balance this out. This would be vice versa for one in a male body. To lean either way, too much, leaves us in an unbalanced situation that can cause problems with a mate. Love, Light, Peace and Harmony Marylin Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-20/5704 From: John Kosior Subject: Sex and Knowing Hi Folks, Well, you'll be happy to know that I'm over my little rhyming phase. (for now anyway :) It's funny that I literally spent 5 or 6 hours while working with a continuous stream of just such verse working through my mind. It got so annoying to me that I wrote the second installment until I burned it all out. Once again, thanks for being there and thanks each for your response. It's good to have a home to share the crazed energy with. I wanted to respond to this latest chapter. But rather than the content, I'd rather respond to the approach JJ uses to the bible. Simply put, it seems we are examining the scriptures from just the place we need to for understanding. For many many years, we have all been inundated, or people tried to inundate us, by folks who believed that they "knew" the bible, and all of its mysteries. And I believed and followed for a time all of their limited views. But it was within that time that I began to see that within the scriptures are a whole other set of principles that on the surface appear to be contradictory to all that I had been taught. Now some have used this realization to disregard the entire message of the bible, (or at least the parts they didn't like) but I kept a thought that there must be some unifying principles that I just don't see that tie it all together again. This is what I see JJ doing with all of the teachings, and in particular, his handling of the old and new testaments. In this regard, I just remembered about a site I found called Embracing The Contradiction that is a point blank focus on seeing that the dualities that exist in the scriptures are there for our greater understanding when we reach beyond our 2D beliefs. And that far from being called inconsistent or contradictory, these dualities combine to paint a picture too magnificent for mere words. This I have found, and this is what I see from JJ. I'm so glad to have the chance to be here. Thanks All, And as always, Blessings, John Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-20/5705 From: (Richard/ Sharon) Subject: Tolerance OT I have known since we joined this list, that we had found a rare and magical place, filled with wisdom that would help and allow me to grow, but now thanks to John & Anni, i see how limited my views were. Thank you both. much love, sharon (simply, and sincerely said, but i just can't rhyme) ^I^ ^I^ Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-20/5706 From: Norman Fleshman Subject: Elohim I seem to have used an inappropriate E address earlier...so, if this is a repeat...my apologies.... J. J........I Really like the explanation that you give, regarding "Elohim". Annalee Skarin says of the word " Elohim"...that it is "the masculine plural of a feminine noun", that means......God and His mate. That has not been an easy one for me to grasp. What you have just shared, if I understand you correctly, says the same thing, but gives much more depth of meaning to it. Taking the masculine plural to refer to thoughts...or, ideas, or, images we imagine, and, the feminine noun, to be the name of a "thing"...namely ...feeling....THE feeling (the only one needed, ie; hope singing in our (feminine) hearts,..e have the confirming of, reality of, or fulfillment of...the idea(s), image(s), hope(s), (that is the masculine plural) by the feminine noun.singular..the single feeling of hope singing in our hearts. In taking both, male/female, together, as one, we have the simple creativeness of thought(s) and feeling...joined as one...saying as one..I AM. (Whole, one, complete, entire.) Which seems to be precisely what Elohim denotes...An individual, or a state of awareness, where wholeness, allness, awareness of being fulfilled, complete, entire, is "KNOWN", (as J.J. has so beautiful spoken of.) I trust this is consistent with what J. J. is talking about. ( In this group of great thinkers, I'd settle for "close" to what J. J. is talking about. *S*) Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-21/5707 From: Vignir Subject: Selecting mates Warm greetings to you all from Iceland! This is my first time here although I've been reading your letters for the past few days. I want to thank JJ Dewey for his article on Selecting mates. I found it very interesting. Just a few thoughts on being gay: JJ Dewey wrote. "And what about gays? What kind of charge in energy would males and females have in this situation and why?" John wrote: "These folks are those who have convinced themselves that they need not receive balance from the "opposing" energy of the opposite sex." Although I'm gay at this moment in time I don't think that I have convinced myself that I need not receive balance from the "opposing" energy of the opposite sex. I love to be in the company of women (my x wife and daughter for instance) and am thankful for all the balance I get from their energy...but still I prefer to live with my boyfriend who, by the way, also gives me a lot of balance. Here is a wild guess, but it's something I was once taught by another teacher in the past. Let's say you are on life 500, and you just spend the last 350 as a female. Then, suddenly, you decide you are going to be male. Dave wrote: "in this life. The transition from female to male could be anything but smooth. It may be difficult for the individual in question to accept their life as a male, and they may still feel a strong pull from the female side. So it may take a couple of lives as a male to get used to the concept. This could also explain gays. After being female for so many lifetimes, and choosing male, they may still feel a strong attraction to the male sex. After a lifetime or two as a male, the physical attraction to the opposite sex should become so strong they can no longer resist it, and they should be realigned with their true male energies. Here is another wild guess! What if after 500 lives of learning and evolving, both from male and female energy/incarnations one decided to try out a gay lifestyle for no other reason than to learn and evolve a bit more! Just a thought! Bless you all Viggi Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-20/5708 From: (Richard/ Sharon) Subject: Selecting Mates Welcome Home Viggi, its nice to see the table filling up. Looking forward to seeing more of your thoughts and insights. You'll find us an interesting family. Love & Light, sharon & richard ^I^ ^I^ Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-21/5709 From: Rick Audette Subject: Re: Selecting mates "Here is another wild guess! What if after 500 lives of learning and evolving, both from male and female energy/incarnations one decided to try out a gay lifestyle for no other reason than to learn and evolve a bit more! Just a thought! Bless you all Viggi" Interesting thought, Viggi. Reminds me of something that happened last week end. A friend of mine invited me to a party, held by a BDSM club that he belonged to. In the past, I would never have gone to such a thing, but lately, I find it harder to say who is not my brother and undeserving of my love, if ya know what I mean. So, I go to this party and ouch, it hurt just to watch the way some of them liked to play. But, I chatted with a number of them and found that the motivation, behind their behavior, wasn't anything like I would have guessed. It may not be the way you or I would go about it, but these people were still looking for love, in the best way they could manage and who am I to say they won't find it. I like to tell people that yes God is in church, but He is also everywhere else too. I find Him everywhere I look now, even under that rock I turned over. And, just maybe, some helpful, curious comment, made by a cute transvestite from Plano, Texas, might help lead them to the truth in a way no words from a pulpit ever could. Say what you like, about me, but my Master was said to keep company with sinners and I look to follow His examples. And, they say, He went to hell itself to free men's souls. It's still a stretch for me, but I'm learning, good/bad, light/dark, regardless of where we find our lessons, we are all God's children and that makes us all brothers and sisters. Love you all, Rick -- ICQ 19753992 visit my web pages at http://www.ont.com/users/rea1/ have you read "The Immortal" http://www.freeread.com *** Who said love should come easy Instant flame from a spark in the eye Even when it doesn't hurt you Love can make you cry Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-21/5710 From: J J Dewey Subject: Correct Use of Energy Good to see some new blood posting - Norman, Vignir and others. Vignir is our first member from Iceland and his comments are definitely headed in the right direction and I will expand on them later. CHAPTER EIGHT CORRECT USE OF ENERGY Copyright By J J Dewey We now are laying a foundation of knowledge that will help us understand what is good and evil in sex, but one more important point must be understood: we must define the core principle behind that which produces good and that which produces evil at this time. Since we are in a state of evolution, good is that which tends to accelerate us toward union with God and/or our fellow men and women. Evil is that which causes us to separate ourselves from God, our souls, or our fellow men and women. It has been said that there is only one sin . . . the sin of separateness. Does this mean that we should have sex with anyone who is willing in the hope that we can share a union with many souls and move away from separateness? No. This idea is part of a great illusion. Casual sex leads to separateness and greatly hinders union in the three worlds. Therefore, it is "evil", or a mistake. The commandments given in the scriptures condemn casual sex because the Guides of the race know that it leads to separateness and not union. When a person engages in casual sex with whoever is willing, there is generally only a sharing of the sacral energies and sometimes a partial sharing of solar plexus energies. When a person is more selective about his sex partners and tries to pick only those with whom he feels some affinity or "love" toward, then there can be close to a full sharing of both sacral and solar plexus centers. Most of humanity has settled for this second level of fulfillment. We feel inside that there is something more, but know not how to obtain it. It is like a dream that we are prepared to not have fulfilled. As a person evolves, however, he finds that his deep feelings were not a dream and when he tastes the joys of the higher unions, he finds that nothing in heaven or hell will stop him from finding the right mate and entering into the full joy of the Lord. Before a person can enter into the higher unions, certain laws must be followed. The joys of God are not found on the broad path, but on the so-called "straight and narrow". Before there can be a union of the heart centers, the aspirant must learn to master the emotional energy streaming from the solar plexus. This emotional energy must be subject to the control of the mind. Before the mind energies can be shared, the mind must be dominated by the intuition. The mind must be subject to the control of the soul energies, or the God Within. The mind must not "slay the real" with its concrete reasoning, but must be subject to seeing and understanding the real and the true as presented through the intuition, or communication from the God Within, the source of all true principles. If one has only shared solar plexus and sacral energies and desires to also enjoy heart energies, he must do two things. First, he must find a mate who is at the correct point of evolution, as previously discussed. Secondly, he must subject all the desire energy of the solar plexus to the control of the mind. Only in this way can the blazing fires of the desire center be sublimated and directed to the heart. The heart energy then circulates and much greater union becomes possible. To circulate and blend the heart energies during and after sex, a strong commitment or understanding must be made and faithfully kept between the male and female. Sex without a commitment only stimulates the desire energies, which drown out the finer vibrations of the heart. This is why the revelations from God to man have always encouraged him to make covenants with his mate and have put great emphasis on not breaking them. These commandments about the sex act were designed to inspire greater union. Without a covenant or strong understanding, the desire energy overshadows the heart energy. Secondly, without a commitment, there cannot be a full sharing, even if some heart energies are active; strong desire energies feed many personality fears that cause partners to throw up walls of protection from hurt. These are walls of separation. Without a covenant and trust, people fear union and fear to share all their energies because if those energies are suddenly withdrawn, great hurt automatically follows. Thus, all those who have casual sex with no commitment create barriers of negative energy that militate against a full sharing of the heart - all because they are afraid of being hurt. To prepare oneself for a full sharing, one must mentally accept the possibility of being hurt, be prepared to deal with it if it comes, and then dismiss it from the mind. Then one must make a covenant (marriage or private covenant) with someone whom he believes he can trust. Then he should make a concentrated effort to lower all the protective walls and maintain a full communication and sharing. If both parties feel secure in their covenant, are matched with the correct mate, and control desire by honoring their agreement, they may experience the sharing of the higher heart energies. During intercourse, they should make a concentrated effort to release the pure energies of love from the heart with no inhibition. In some cases there may be a sharing with no vocalized covenant. The understanding both parties have with each other may create the same trusting effect as a covenant. For instance, both parties may have a silent understanding that they will be faithful to each other. The soul may look upon this in the same way it looks upon a covenant, but it is rare for a silent understanding to create the same effect as a vocalized covenant, which creates spheres of trust and understanding. In another light, we can say that to raise the sharing energies to the heart center, sex, as well as other energies, must be directed toward Purpose. Purpose is the unifying energy of God and Purpose is only expressed in actions that lead toward union with God or union with each other, which leads toward God. Purpose is like an eternal stairway where each action is a step which leads to another and still another without end, until Union is achieved. If you see an action ending with only one, two or three steps, then you know that action fills a finite objective and does not represent the true energy of Purpose. On the other hand, if an action is only one step on an infinite stairway with no end in sight Purpose is being represented. If one has sex to merely fulfill desire, then the steps created by the action shortly reach an end and the objective is fulfilled. The energy is then dissipated and sent back to the solar plexus center where the energy of desire is recharged and sent out again on a blind mission seeking fulfillment. When the energy of desire is controlled by the mind and the mind is directed by the soul, then the desire energy is directed upward toward the heart and head, and this creates a step on the eternal stairway of Purpose; thus, heart energy begins to circulate and two people may share a higher union enveloped in the Love of God. Once it is felt in fullness, desire will never hold the pilgrim completely in its chains again. He will see the benefits of mastering desire. Even a spiritual person must see some benefit before he will proceed upon the path of return. Very few people ever completely master desire as it is expressed through sex, money, and power because the energies directed toward separateness and selfishness are strong indeed. To be mastered, all desire connected with these energies must be directed by the mind toward the greatest universal good one's consciousness can comprehend. Concerning sex, the solar plexus will say: "I have desire-love toward you; therefore, it is good that we join together in sex." The mind directed by the soul will sense this language of the lower energies as saying: "I desire you because you fulfill some of my needs and I want you to fulfill that desire not tomorrow, but now." If the mind's translation is correct, then sex will not produce a sharing of the heart energies, for only an object of satisfaction is sought, and there is no connection with the eternal stairway of Purpose. To make this connection, the mind directed by the soul must say: "I will have sex with you when I see a possibility of making the act a step on the eternal stairway of Purpose. I will have sex when eternal union with no walls is the goal. This can only be insured by a timeless covenant. When this is the case, the energies of pure unselfish Love will surround us and we will achieve fulfillment few humans have known." Concerning money, the solar plexus will say: "I want to provide for my family and give them all the finer things in life they deserve; I want my children to have those things I never had as a child". The mind directed by the soul will interpret this as: "You want money only for your own pleasure. Even the things you want for your family are so you can have greater personal fulfillment. Your goals concerning money are mere objectives that will have a separative end. . . To direct money toward Purpose, one must seek a way to use it so it does the greatest good for the largest number of people. It is true that one must have enough money for personal and family needs before giving to other causes, but one must raise higher than just personal gratification if he is to fulfill Purpose and control desire. He must seek some action with surplus money that will in some way, great or small, benefit the whole world, and aid mankind toward the path of Union. A covenant can also apply toward money and aid in the conquest of desire. To achieve this, a person should make a strong individual or group commitment or promise to consecrate all his surplus money to some effort that will further the evolutionary development of mankind. This is a completely selfless act and tends to transmute the lower desire energies into heart energies that can lead to oneness. Concerning power, the solar plexus will say: "I want power to assert myself in areas where I have leadership abilities and to have the freedom I need to carry out responsibilities related to these abilities. People like myself are natural leaders. Others need us to direct and guide them." The mind directed by the soul will interpret this as: "My desire nature seeks freedom for its own expression only, even at the expense of others. It wants to feed its pride and be recognized by men and women as being important and special. It wants to exert authority over other men and women even against their will, believing that it knows what's good for them better than they know themselves." To direct power toward Purpose, one must use whatever authority he possesses to serve and not command service. He must ever remember the injunction of the Master: "He who is the greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven is the servant of all." He should use any power he has to serve to benefit the whole human race as much as possible - not just the insignificant self. The power and authority a person has must not be under the direction of his desire nature, or he will become an unrighteous dictator over his tiny realm. A man or woman's power must be under the direction of the mind and under the influence of the soul. This will aid the transmuting of solar plexus energy to the heart. All disciples must master the three energies of sex, money, and power and subject the solar plexus desires concerning them by the power of the mind, or else they will be "damned" (or stopped) in their progression and unable to move ahead in the realm of the soul. For each person, there is one particular energy upon which his desires are most centered and will be his greatest "temptation" to overcome. Some people are very generous and unselfish with their money, but are very selfish with sex and love. Others have no problem with sex, but have a strong desire to control and dictate to others. In still others, money is their major ruin. All people have some pull from their desire nature to use all three energies incorrectly, but there is always one that is a special problem to them. Of the three energies, sex is the hardest to put in the right perspective because error in the misuse of sex is difficult to pinpoint and realize. Few have all the money and power they want but most have opportunities to misuse sex, and sooner or later we are all tempted to do so. The sex urge is basically the urge toward union with the Divine. It is that power that attracts spirit and matter and creates form for incarnating lives. All lives that do not express desire in the sexual relationship yet follow the natural flow of nature are under no "sin". The problems concerning sex are always centered around that part of humanity that has little or no initiative to subject desire to the mind. Keep in mind that we admonish control of the desire nature and not suppression. Suppression of desire is very dangerous, for a desire suppressed will always surface again with greater strength. When desire is controlled and directed by the mind under direction of the soul, it is not suppressed. Often desire will be less inhibited than ever, for the mind is wise enough to always find an outlet for desire and recognizes that desires should be fulfilled according to law, but they must be directed so their expression is constructive and harmless. To become harmless, the desire nature must be checked periodically by the mind and then redirected in paths of greater fulfillment. A person whose desires are not subject to the mind/soul will always feel somewhat unsatisfied whereas one who subjects his desires will ironically have greater and more intense fulfillment of them. It is a giant step in the progression of the soul for one to control desire with the mind. It is a difficult step, but it produces a giant leap in the expansion of consciousness of the individual and places him in spiritual contact with a group of other lives who have "overcome". The feeling of loneliness one sometimes feels begins to fade and is replaced by a group life force. Now the intuition begins to develop at a fast pace, and the person begins to develop power to initiate spiritual causes. Thus, he or she is called an disciple as well as an initiate. Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-21/5711 From: Marylin Subject: Re: (OT) More Verse Hugs to you John Your verse is beautiful.....not just in words.....but in the way it gets down to the bare truth. I live in a household of souls who smile but only to pick at and degrade. And it is painful to watch them deny who they really are. Through this most valuable list I have learned how to deal with this. I smile a lot, I laugh a lot, I ignore a lot and I sing the song a lot. It seems my mission here is to be an example more than to talk. Keeping my mouth shut is not the easiest thing in the world for me. But I am learning too. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and feelings with us. Love, Light, Peace and Harmony Marylin Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-21/5712 From: J J Dewey Subject: Questions My friends, I received some interesting questions directly from Rick and Glenys that I feel that may also be in the minds of others on the list, so I received their permission to post them here. First, let me say that it is commendable that group members are putting what their soul says to them above me as a teacher. All souls are one and when we all speak the language of the soul together we will see as one body. But even those who do their best to retain soul contact can question and disagree because of incomplete communications. I love the Rick's attitude in his questioning. He is not challenging me or trying to show any superior intelligence, but just shows a sincere desire to find the truth and to serve. What more could a teacher ask for? Now I'll quote from his letter: "... I'm hoping you will provide more information, on the subject. My soul tells me that I can still be complete by being a bride of Christ. It also suggests that it may be possible to link up with one's "soul mate" without actually being together physically." I'm sure your soul is guiding you correctly here. Sometimes when our soul points a direction, we cannot see all the ingredients in the upcoming path. But when that direction is followed we always discover that the soul pushed us gently in the right way. It is possible to have various types of non physical contact with a potential mate. A soul mate is, however, created rather than some special split off of yourself at creation. From a higher point of view we are all soul mates. When you find a person that you can be one with then you will have a mate that you can communicate with soul to soul, which is a true soul mate. Let us suppose you met a potential soul mate on the net or some other way. There would come a time that you would want to complete the relationship on a physical level. Completeness in relationship comes through interplay of all levels. Nevertheless, it is possible to go quite a distance through non physical interplay. "Wow" says Rick, "Either this topic has left everyone speechless or there is something wrong with Spiritweb today. Nobody has commented on it yet, that I can see. There is so much here that I wish I could have known about when I was younger. I forwarded a copy to a friend and plan to give copies to my daughters. I have to admit that the information has truly left me in a spin. If creating this "perfect" marriage bond is a prerequisite to getting into heaven, then I fear I have thrown this life away and have little hope of salvaging it, at my age. At 49 years old, 3 times divorced, a single parent and all the other stuff I've already told about, I seem to have little hope of ever connecting with Ms. Right." All of us go through many lifetimes without finding Mr. or Mrs. Right. Although it is indeed a heavenly experience to find a soul to soul mate there are many spiritual experiences along the path to this union. If you follow the highest you know at all times you will build a heaven for yourself right here on the earth and beyond, even though you have not found the person of your dreams. All of us have a hope of becoming Masters and overcoming all things, even death, but because we have not arrived there yet should not become a point of discouragement. We must smell the roses along the way and enjoy special moments of progress as we proceed toward the goal. Rick continues: "And just how did all my heroes manage to get to such heights without the benefit of a good woman beside them? Was there a Mrs. Moses or a Mrs. Christ? Ben Franklin was a womanizer. Thomas Jefferson slept with the help. Edison had a rocky marriage. Einstein married his cousin, because she was a good cook. If all these great men had such a hard time of it, what chance have I?' Moses was married twice. His first wife was an Egyptian lady he married and quickly dropped in order to conquer her city when he was in the Pharaohs army. Later when he was on his spiritual quest he married Jethro's daughter Zipporah who was his faithful wife. Christ had several women in his life who inspired him. But you are right. There are numerous fairly great men who were womanizers, John Kennedy for one. Nevertheless, all these men who dissipated their energies will eventually have to learn to intelligently direct sexual energies toward union to achieve their full potential. Lincoln is an interesting study. He had a relationship that was much worse than no relationship. His wife Mary Todd was the worst first lady in history. It is said that the reason he entered politics was so he could be away from his wife for greater periods of time, so perhaps history would be greatly changed if not for his bad marriage. She had a terrible temper and was always embarrassing him. For example, when he was President and they were having an important dinner for dignitaries she threw a plate of food in his face because he did some small thing that offended her. She saw herself as co-president and asked to be called Misses President. She was also a spendthrift and always kept the family in debt. She eventually went insane after he was killed and was put in an asylum. Even though Abe had good reason to get something going on the side he was a faithful husband through all his days. If he lived in this age he would have probably got a divorce, but a divorce in that time would have ruined him politically and he knew it was important to fulfill his destiny as president. Even though he was a faithful husband he did have several female friends that gave him access to female energy which inspired him. If I remember right Einstein's first wife was a mathematician who was a strong motivator for him in coming up with the Theory of Relativity. Some believe that she actually came up with some of the ideas. I believe she drew then out of him. Rick continues: "The latest chapter of the molecular relationship is both the best and worst news I've read in some time. We've just rebounded from one downswing in membership and now I wonder what will happen to us, when even I question if I belong here. I hope we will pause and discuss this, before getting any more, so that we can all have time to digest such a large mouthful. It usually takes a lot to rattle my cage, but this one has left me dazed. Rick" I'm not sure what all you are referring to here. For those of you who have specific questions I would hope that you ask them. One ting I want to clarify is that the Molecular Relationship does not require that you have an ideal mate. We will go into more detail in this later on as we explain how it works. A single person or one with a spiritually disinterested mate will pick a working non romantic partner to cerate male female units in the soul for the creation of human molecules. In many cases these couples will work together in the soul better than the married ones for they will not be carrying around the garbage from a bad relationship that so many have. I would suppose that the idea of commitment in sex is disturbing to some. Many have left the old time religions because of the restrictions there. There is a big difference though. The religions say: "do what we say because God says so." I am not doing this. Instead I am attempting to teach the true principle governing the ultimate positive use of sex, money and power. These energies should be directed to fulfill Purpose, or be in alignment with Purpose so the higher energies of the soul can become manifest. No one wants to judge the purity of your sex life. Instead what the teachers look for is your purity as a vessel for the higher spiritual energies. If one is governing his life with soul guidance then there will be endowments and manifestations of the Spirit of God through the soul. That which comes through you and out of you is evidence of your correct use of higher principles. Glenys also had some questions. She is another member of the group I really appreciate. She is never confrontational, but I also know that if what I teach does not register with her soul that she would resist anything I would say that is not in alignment until understanding and union is reached. She asks: "If I have to develop more masculine energies to serve in a proactive, 'sending' way, then the chances of finding someone to balance me become even more remote. As it is, I've always known that one of the reasons I've never married is that I haven't been able to find someone who is my spiritual superior (and I don't regard myself as a 10 by any means). Is that the price women have to pay for being spiritually aware?" Answer: I know I'm going to have to give some more clarification on this for the female tends to think she is at a disadvantage in many ways, but she is not. The objective is to deliver teachings. For the male it is easiest just to throw them out to the audience, but on the female side, her energy is to pull out the teachings from the souls of the students. One is not more powerful than the other, but the male has an easier time in his energy as well as the female in hers. The trouble is that the female is often deceived into thinking the male energy is the better way. The female should only use male energies that feel natural to her and not try to force them. It is not only difficult for the advanced female to find a mate in suitable evolution, but also the male. Notice Rick's previous comments about the difficulty in finding a companion. Glenys continues: "Various other comments relating to the two energies I was interested to read that a woman with strong male energies needs a man with strong female energies to give balance. In my experience, strong women seek a strong male and find men with female energies good friends but bad partners. I find such men boring as they don't challenge me at all." Keep in mind that a strong woman is not necessarily one with a lot of male energies. The strongest of all women are those who successfully use their female energies. If the female dominates with male energies then her make companion turns female as far as energy is concerned. On the other hand, she can also dominate with female energy. When she does this the male energy in her mate is amplified. Even so this dominated male will be a willing servant for the female in her energy. Glenys also asks: "I was also interested in your comments about teachers choosing a male body. I have had a teaching urge for most of my adult life so wonder why I chose a female body this time round. Does it mean that if I teach and it becomes a focal point of my life that the most I can expect is to communicate others' teachings like Bailey did with the Tibetan? Does it mean that I will probably never have any original teachings of my own in this lifetime because it would require more 'sending' masculine energies? If that's not right, then why didn't I choose a male body? I can only assume from what you've written that I chose it because the emphasis this time round was to be on learning , receptivity etc." Choosing a female body is a sign from your soul that you came here with the intention to learn, especially for the first half of your life. That does not mean that during this period you will not teach but it does indicate that you, in connection with your soul, saw that there were important lessons to learn that required that you be in the receptive female energy. Now if you learn the needed lessons that you set before yourself before you were born, then in the second half of your life you can be an effective teacher of those lessons as well as applying the female energy to learn new ones. As for the rest of your questions just remember the first key. You are Decision and you can become whatever it is you decide to Become. Tune into the male and female energies within you and use their forces to best serve the direction you wish to take. We'll be talking more about make and female energies as time goes on as the correct understanding of them is a key to the successful creative path. Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-22/5713 From: Marylin Subject: Re: Correct Use of Energy J J Dewey writes: "A person whose desires are not subject to the mind/soul will always feel somewhat unsatisfied whereas one who subjects his desires will ironically have greater and more intense fulfillment of them." "It is a giant step in the progression of the soul for one to control desire with the mind. It is a difficult step, but it produces a giant leap in the expansion of consciousness of the individual and places him in spiritual contact with a group of other lives who have "overcome". The feeling of loneliness one sometimes feels begins to fade and is replaced by a group life force. Now the intuition begins to develop at a fast pace, and the person begins to develop power to initiate spiritual causes. Thus, he or she is called an disciple as well as an initiate." Hi JJ and All I, too, wondered if everybody was doing the same thing I was......trying to find their way out of, to understand, this very powerful message. I just read JJ's post "Questions" but I had no questions in the areas addressed. After having read the writings of Paul in the bible and getting hopping mad at him for being a chauvanist, this occurred years ago, I finally came to terms with his message and began to understand some of it. Money and sex are, at least to me, things of the world. By my own choice, I have no time for sex, and I wouldn't know what to do with an excess of money except to give it to someone who needs the financial help. "contact with a group of other lives who have "overcome". The feeling of loneliness one sometimes feels begins to fade and is replaced by a group life force. Now the intuition begins to develop at a fast pace, and the person begins to develop power to initiate spiritual causes. Thus, he or she is called an disciple as well as an initiate." This is the part that really threw me for one enormous loop. The deep, disparing loneliness I felt three and a half years ago began to fill when I got back to my active search for truth after 20 years of drifting. Then JJ contacted me and I literally ran to the table. I have eaten so much and my cup is running over and the joy I now feel, even on bad days, has come forth to my consciousness and this alone has left me pondering and in awe. Intuition (gut feeling, whatever), how many times I have either ignored or deliberately chosen not to listen. Now I am deliberately learning how to listen without "being touched" by it in an over emotional way. Initiating spiritual causes........WOW Am I really comprehending this? And I can't even think about the last sentence yet, lest I get a big head and start aggrandizing myself. but isn't that what this particular lifetime is all about? We are growing, evolving, literally, into a different form of life, (not physically maybe) but different in that We will all have learned how to live in peaceful, loving ways that Christ tried so hard to teach. To my understanding, that is "The New Jerusalem". 'scuse me while I give thanks again. Love, Light, Peace and Harmony] Marylin Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-22/5714 From: Rick Audette Subject: Re: Questions Ding, Okay, I'll be the first one to come back out of my corner, but that last round was a tough one. Thank you Father.....for such a wonderful teacher, I have in JJ. The chapter on correct use of energy nearly had me down for a ten count. Yesterday, I felt like I hadn't slept for 2 days, even though I got more sleep than usual. I probably had it coming, after all the cage rattling I'd been doing :) Now I feel refreshed and ready to go on learning and growing. My love and appreciation for my sister, Glenys grows even more. She was among the first of the Keysters that knew of and accepted all of me. She even had invited me to a "girls" night out, if I was ever down her way, until she saw my picture and thought I might attract more attention from NZ men than she. Not to worry sister, you are tops in my book and we'd make a great team in any endeavor together. The two of us have always stood at the leading edge in most of the discussions on the list. Whenever all the Keysters finally meet, in one great hall, I'm sure we'll be among those that are first to be identified by the rest. Love ya sis. Now the rest of you, jump back in and let's get moving again. It should be smoother traveling, now that me 'n G have cleared the trail. Love to all, Rick -- ICQ 19753992 visit my web pages at http://www.ont.com/users/rea1/ have you read "The Immortal" http://www.freeread.com Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-22/5715 From: John Kosior Subject: Re: Questions Hi Folks, Rick Audette wrote: "Now the rest of you, jump back in and let's get moving again. It should be smoother traveling, now that me 'n G have cleared the trail." Whoa boy. Respectfully I would submit that the traveling here for me has never been smoother. More active on all parts perhaps, but not any smoother, more important, or intriguing. The plain truth of the matter is that JJ hasn't been asking any of the usual questions we are all accustomed to. So naturally there are not so many answers coming back. That is absolutely fine with me, as I am enjoying this current series of teachings as much as any we have tackled in the past. I'd also ask that you consider this, (right or wrong :) It is easy when we are experiencing questions or doubts to project those feelings and actually believe that most others must be experiencing similar quandary. This feeling is of course amplified when we don't see the usual number of posts from our participants. So with that said, allow me to cast out a projection of my own and see if you can see that this thought has at least as much possible validity as your'n. :) As I have been reading and digesting these chapters from JJ, I'm struck with a sense of awe as to their clear definition and with the importance of the subject matter in the times we are living. So that when I have finished reviewing the posts, like when I close the chapter of a really good book, I have no expansive questions, only appreciation. And although I could comment on each of them, to me it would be like commenting on Shakespeare. I could do it, but why? :) The definition and content has already been covered in the writing. I think this position is fortified by the fact that when JJ actually posed a direct question (the male/female issue) comments and answers came flooding in as much as ever, and at that they came from new sources, new members or old who seldom comment. So no my friend, there is no disturbance in the force. At least not from this part of the world. And I suspect by the recent re-expansion of the membership here, not from many others. Now, let's have JJ pose a direct question, or a list of them, and let's see who's projection is more accurate. I truly believe that things are much better out here than you have imagined. Now, as for who will be highly "recognized" when we finally all meet, I will be taking it upon myself to recognize, as Jesus did with the woman who gave only two bits to the temple, all of those on the list who gave all that they could with only a few comments along the way. As well as those who supported the structure only in prayer and presence. How do we know that it wasn't these who under girded all of the efforts of the more boisterous and flamboyant among us? My deepest appreciation goes out to JJ, but also to the most quiet of our family. These folks are all equal in my sight, because there may come a day that JJ poses a question that stumps us, yet allows one of these quiet ones to shine forth with delightful wisdom. It's happened before and it will happen again. So I'll say let's allow JJ to dribble the ball and set up his shot. Then when he throws it out to us again, I think you'll see us all grab the ball and run with it. Just my impressions from the sidelines. :) With Blessings, John Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-22/5716 From: J J Dewey Subject: Appreciation Marylin, Rick, John... Your comments have touched my soul. Thanks And much appreciation to all of you. All your comments are fully registered by me. This group is taking on a life of its own and sometimes I pick up on its vibration as I believe others of you do. JJ Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-22/5717 From: Norman Fleshman Subject: Re: Questions John...I salute your insight. Norman Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-23/5718 From: Glenys Lowery Subject: Re: Questions Thank you for your very generous comments, Rick. They almost make me forgive you for having better legs than me :-) Love Glenys -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- So now he is a legend when he would have preferred to be a man. - Jacqueline Kennedy Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-22/5719 From: Susi Subject: Re: My understandings of the past teachings Hi All, I finally caught up on all the e-mail received over the past week and a half since family visited and wanted to make a few comments prior to leaving tomorrow for 5 days. The teachings or writings of JJ lately are quite interesting. The diagram in the first chapter with the circles to depict the waves is an image I have been shown through intuition many times and I was comforted to see them in this writing. I have had more in-depth visions and soul level teaching about them, but I think that those teachings are on the different levels of each circle and not very relevant to the wave/vibration/frequencies, being discussed here so I won't go into them yet, anyway I was very pleased to see them there ;-) On the subject of male/female energies and the facts being presented as to the separateness of these two energies: I have a question, many things in nature currently possess both male and female energies I think you wrote that JJ, and eventually all things will go back to possessing both of these energies just like Source (The One God). Do I have this theory correct so far? My main question is that I feel we all as humans posses both of these qualities and ultimately do not need to have a mate if we are able to utilize both of these energies and maintain a balance within ourselves separate from a mate, just as Source (The One God) is able too. Am I way off on this? I have this on a soul level and so far am unable to accept that it is just not possible to obtain this state in the human form. Rick's concerns of living a wasted life due to his non-attachment to a mate could be alleviated if the information I have received is correct and I am asking if anyone else has received this same or similar information (being female I receive intuitively ;-) Glenys put a question about the desire to be a teacher and her questioning that male energy is better suited for this yet she is female and still has the desire so why did she choose a female body this time around? (The above is from memory and may not be 100% accurately translated) My unsolicited thoughts on this are the following: Since the female energy is more receptive and intuitive I would like to suggest that prior to incarnating this time around you were very aware of the difficulties encountered while in human form to have (receive) information from Source (God) and since the old teachings and most new teachings that exist on earth at present have been repetitive and lost much of their value as teaching tools you knew that you would need the assistance and constant confirmation on a soul level from source if you where to truly grasp/understand the old teachings and more importantly if you were to intuitively come up with new unexplored methods of teaching. This is why the desire to be in female form this time around is so crucial because without the receptiveness of the female energy you would not have the advantage of the clearer more direct channel to the etheric (Source) and your teachings would suffer from the same old repetition of so many before you. You now have the advantage if you are able to tape into that male energy held within you to apply your soul level knowledge here on this list and in many other areas of your life and other peoples lives......I feel you already are teaching as much of your writing on this list reflects this. Now if this does not apply to Glenys, I apologize in advance if I offended, this is not an assumption just a thought and this thought pattern does apply to me. I choose the female form this time because it was a better vehicle for me to utilize in the achievement of my agreed upon goals here on earth this time around and while male energy may be better at sending since I contain both male and female energies I do not see any blockages to my teaching. Ok, now another question for JJ......do you believe that some people here on earth currently had already achieved the mastery of both energies and all other prerequisites which enabled them the choice of not reincarnating yet they are here now to help with the current awakening and volunteered to reincarnate? Lastly, John K., the words that flow from your mouth are so beautiful and thought provoking that I long for the day they will be in print for all to read.......the spiritually awakened and those that are asleep will greatly benefit from your experiences and workings someday and I hope that day is soon! Many Blessings;-) Susi Alexander The Healing Hearth "http://www.healinghearth.com" Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-22/5720 From: Rick Audette Subject: Re: Questions "Now, as for who will be highly "recognized" when we finally all meet," John What I meant, was that, like celebrities seen in print and on screen, those that have spoken most often will attract our attention first. I for one will have a list of people that will be the first I'd like to meet. I don't want to start listing them now for fear of leaving out some, but it's only natural to want to finally meet the ones I've heard so much from. Rick Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-22/5721 From: Rick Audette Subject: [semi OT] The perfect couple I got this from a friend today and thought it might be good for a chuckle here where we are discussing finding perfect mates. Rick --------------- Perfect Couple There was a perfect man who met a perfect woman. After a perfect courtship, they had a perfect wedding. Their life together was, of course, perfect. One snowy, stormy Christmas Eve, this perfect couple was driving their perfect car (a Grand Caravan) along a winding road, when they noticed someone at the side of the road in distress. Being the perfect couple, they stopped to help. There stood Santa Claus with a huge bundle of toys. Not wanting to disappoint any children on the eve of Christmas, the perfect couple loaded Santa and his toys into their vehicle. Soon they were driving along delivering the toys. Unfortunately, the driving conditions deteriorated and the perfect couple and Santa Claus had an accident. Only one of them survived the accident. Who was the survivor? (Scroll down for the answer.) The perfect woman. She's the only one that really existed in the first place. Everyone knows there is no Santa Claus and there is no such thing as a perfect man... (Women, end e-mail here.!!!! Men, keep scrolling.) So, if there is no perfect man and no Santa Claus, the perfect woman must have been driving. This explains why there was a car accident. (By the way if you are a woman, and you are reading this...this brings up another point...women never listen either....) Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-22/5722 From: Kat Subject: Re: [semi OT] The perfect couple Rick, I'm fairly new to the list, so, for the most part, I've been doing quite a bit of observing. But I have to comment on your perfect man/perfect woman story: LOL. It's a good thing that many women have a sense of humour when it comes to men ragging us about our driving. (BTW, I'm a professional driver with an excellent driving record). The bottom line is, though, that none of us is perfect. Even Santa Clause. Thanks for the laugh! :-) Kat Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-22/5723 From: (Richard/ Sharon) Subject: the perfect couple OT Glad to meet you Kat, feels like you are going to be a most interesting new family member. welcome. blessings, sharon ^I^ ^I^ Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-22/5724 From: Rick Audette Subject: Re: [semi OT] The perfect couple A very warm greeting Kat, And to all the newcomers, as well. For the benefit of all who have recently joined us and have yet to read all the archives, let me tell you about the things we talk about. Our main discussions are about the principles being taught, here, by J.J. Dewey, the author of "The Immortal". We have all agreed to stick as close to this as possible, but other posts are also welcome, as long as they somehow tie in. If a post is labeled as O.T. or Off Topic, it will be related, but not directly connected to the topic at hand. If the material you wish to discuss can be found on a web page, it is better to give the URL in your post and your opinions or questions regarding it. We are also interested in getting to know our brothers and sisters better, so stories about what's happening in your life are most welcome. We have drawn together quite a diverse group of all ages and philosophies. Many points of view enable us all to expand our consciousness and love, so long as one doesn't try to convince others that there's is the best or only way to look at things. We are a classroom and can get pretty intense at times, but we also are happy about the work we do and like an occasional humorous post to give us a break from class. You don't have to be a pro to join in the discussions. Your views are as important as anyone else's and we won't bite or flame anyone for thinking. Lots of us use ICQ and AOL instant messaging, so you can almost always find someone to talk to make friends with. I hope y'all stick around long enough to find out what a wonderful little list we are growing here. Love, Rick -- ICQ 19753992 visit my web pages at http://www.ont.com/users/rea1/ have you read "The Immortal" http://www.freeread.com Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-23/5725 From: Glenys Lowery Subject: Re: My understandings of the past teachings - Susi Susi wrote: "Glenys put a question Since the female energy is more receptive and intuitive I would like to suggest that prior to incarnating this time around you were very aware of the difficulties encountered while in human form to have (receive) information from Source (God) and since the old teachings and most new teachings that exist on earth at present have been repetitive and lost much of their value as teaching tools you knew that you would need the assistance and constant confirmation on a soul level from source if you where to truly grasp/understand the old teachings and more importantly if you were to intuitively come up with new unexplored methods of teaching. This is why the desire to be in female form this time around is so crucial because without the receptiveness of the female energy you would not have the advantage of the clearer more direct channel to the etheric (Source) and your teachings would suffer from the same old repetition of so many before you. You now have the advantage if you are able to tape into that male energy held within you to apply your soul level knowledge here on this list and in many other areas of your life and other peoples lives....." Thanks for your comments, Susi. I found them to be very useful in my contemplation some of my choices this incarnation. I'm sure your analysis will ring true for many people. I also found JJ's comments useful when he suggested that I may have chosen a female incarnation because of specific lessons that I chose to learn that required receptive female energies. I have no doubts that is theory is true. I came from a difficult and abusive family and had to learn some essential life lessons at a very early age in order to survive - literally. My two brothers chose not to be 'receptive' to the lessons on offer and quickly went off the rails like the rest of my family and this manifested in their continuing the family cycle of abuse and aggression. I'm sure that being female helped me although at the time I was convinced that my brothers had an easier time of it as it appeared that they were coping better than I was. But because I had receptive female energies my pain healed whereas my brothers have never been able to come to terms with their past. Of course, there are other factors involved but I think the male/sending and female/ receptive teaching explains a lot of the dynamics. One thing I am sure of - I will never regret choosing to be born a woman - even though I jokingly accused JJ of promoting penis envy :-) Thanks again for your comments, Susi. They were very insightful. Love Glenys -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The day will come when, after harnessing space, the winds, the tides and gravitation, we shall harness for God the energies of love. And on that day, for the second time in the history of the world, we shall have discovered fire. - Teilhard de Chardin Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-23/5726 From: Marylin Subject: Re: [semi OT] The perfect couple Hi Katstar Professional driver.....is that OTR or racing? Marylin Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-23/5727 From: Kat Subject: Re: [semi OT] The perfect couple Rick, Don't worry, I'll stick around and I'll do my best to observe the rules. I loved 'The Immortal', which is why I decided to subscribe to the list. Normally I keep a "very low" profile, preferring to observe/'listen', but I just couldn't resist commenting on your story. I love your discussions. One of the very few lists that actually talks about something! Great to be here! L&L Kat Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-23/5728 From: Kat Subject: Re: [semi OT] The perfect couple Hi Marilyn,
Actually, it's neither. I use to race at one time, but don't any longer. At the 'moment' I'm a school bus driver (over the road's takes me away from home and my daughter too long). I'm actually a Telecommunications Manager, but decided to go back to school to obtain my degree in Counseling Psychology, my life path, and all that you know. :-)
Thanks to everyone who has welcomed me to the list. Glad to be here!
Kat Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-23/5729 From: Xavier Subject: Re: [semi OT] The perfect couple Hi Kat, there is a feature in any email program (I think) that allows you to choose if you send messages in HTML or "text only" YOu see, you sent them in HTML, that's why all these weird typos and codes appear. (btw, i do welcome you to the list:-) Post No. keys-l: /1999-29/5730 From: John Kosior Subject: Welcome Folks Xavier wrote: "(btw, i do welcome you to the list:-)" And I want to add my words of welcome to each of our new members as well. There are some that have posted and some who haven't, but to each of you, I wish glad tidings. For such you've come to the right place. Now, to the old timer. Xavier, where've you been? Enjoying the repose I suspect. As well, I've been thinking about some of our other oldster keysters. Too many to name, and I wouldn't want to leave one out, but I miss some of the voices who used to grace us with there presence. You all know who you are and I'd sure like it if you would pop in and say hi. The water is warmer when more friends are around. With Greetings and Blessings, John "The call of what is And the need for what's not These are things which propel life" Quoted from a personal dream. Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-23/5731 From: J J Dewey Subject: Historian There is a position here awaiting the right person - that is a group historian. Here would be his or her responsibility: We have a tremendous amount of great material in our archives that I would like to see edited and then posted in my web page of Freeread.com. Someone needs to take this material and edit out all duplicating and non essential material so interested readers can download the essence of our discussions and enjoy a flowing read. When the editing is done the historian will send the writings to me and I will post them to the web page. Now this person selected is not expected to do this alone but can use other volunteer members to help. This person should have a certain amount of free time and be prepared to plunge right into this. If we get more than one volunteer for the job then I will pick one as a main historian and the rest can assist. Note: After about a month if nothing much has happened then I will chose another historian so results will be expected. I keep all postings from the beginning edited into paragraphs that I can forward to the historian so the writings do not have to be downloaded from the archives. JJ Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-23/5732 From: Kat Subject: Re: [semi OT] The perfect couple Xavier, Thanks for the help