1999 - WEEK 28 Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-12/5589 From: Glenys Lowery Subject: Re: Creation Wow! Thank you for Chapter One, JJ. It certainly whets that appetite for more - well, for me anyway....where is everyone?! I really appreciated the teaching on the method by which the seven worlds were created and the way the wavelengths expanded as they stepped 'down'. I was interested to read about how the reflection of God becomes distorted as the worlds are created until the greatest level of distortion is reached at the physical level. This reminded me of something I once read about holograms - that the further away they are from the first 'principle' the fuzzier and more confused looking they become. I understood the concept of fuzziness and confusion well when reading much of your email and see I have a lot to learn :-) I found some of the concepts difficult to grasp eg God not being able to think before the four energy states were created. Is there any descriptive term we can use to describe God before Time or is it true that 'the Tao described in words is not the real Tao'? In any event, I found your writing very exciting and bless you for it, JJ. Where's Chapter Two? :-) Love Glenys -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- One day Alice came to a fork in the road and saw a Cheshire cat in a tree. Which road do I take? she asked. Where do you want to go? was his response. I don't know, Alice answered. Then, said the cat, it doesn't matter. - Lewis Carroll Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-12/5590 From: Rick Audette Subject: Latest List 7/11/99 Hi All, Lots of new members, but a net drop of 7 since last listing. Hi to all the new guys and some that came back. I see we have one in India now. For the benefit of the newcomers, I post this list of members, their e-mail addresses, birthdays, web pages, ICQ numbers and geographic location for the purpose of helping us get to know each other better. Write and chat together, visit each others web homes and get to be old friends. If you have any info, you'd like to share with us, let me know or post a letter introducing yourself, on list. We'd love to get to know you. Send photos, if you have them, to Samu and he'll put them up on his Keysters family album page. Your list operator, Rick ------------------------ Keysters list 6/13/99 Adrian Bradley mailto:adrian.bradley@diamond.co.uk__ United Kingdom Alex Appelman mailto:A.M.M.F.Appelman@students.med.uu.nl__ Netherlands Aley mailto:Aley@wcl.on.ca Ambarish Chitnis mailto:chitnis@pspl.co.in Amit Wadhwani mailto:chasm_god@hotmail.com Angela Buffalow mailto:DEVIST8ME@AOL.COM Ann Brown mailto:fmexpert@yahoo.com Anni Ida West [Dec. 2] mailto:aiw@ats.dk __ Aarhus, Denmark__ http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Terrace/2242__ ICQ 12376564 AntonioJosephMartin mailto:d055777c@dc.seflin.org_ http://www.collegeclub.com/~d055777c/ Athene Ho mailto:weirdnerd@collegemail.com Barncastle mailto:tlbarnca@cats.ucsc.edu Becky Prante mailto:BPrante@valverdemail.valverde.edu Becky Priddy mailto:Celerygirl@aol.com Becky Ryan mailto:bdryan@sat.net __ Palestine, TX Benjamin Tang mailto:vin_tae@yahoo.com Betty L. Norem [March 1] mailto:BNOREM@aol.com _ Panama City, Florida Beverly J Salzman mailto:BevSalzman@aol.com Bret Walters mailto:h1817@mcleod.net Brian S. Weis mailto:Brainwise@aol.com _ Bucks County, PA_ ICQ 20234126 Brian Loehr mailto:vrcat@teleport.com Bruce Tracy mailto:indexer@lightspeed.net Camille Pierce mailto:Camille728@aol.com Carmen Cuadra mailto:CCu2946845@aol.com __ Connecticut Carole Jarrett mailto:CaroleJarr@aol.com Carolyn Elaine Mille.. Cheryl Bane mailto:Cheryl.Bane@cna.com Cheryl Schumacher-Fr.. Chris May mailto:mysticbear@start.com.au Christopher Wynter mailto:wynter@bigpond.com__ Hobart, Tasmania_ http://www.anunda.com/ Chuck Schneider mailto:chksr@yahoo.com Clive Culbertson [August 28] mailto:clive.culbertson@virgin.net __ N.Ireland http://homepage.virgin.net/clive.culbertson Damon Amaeous mailto:firedraake@earthlink.net David Curtis mailto:davec@accessld.com __ Salt Lake City, Utah David Goddard mailto:david@footdoot.force9.co.uk __ United Kingdom http://www.footdoot.force9.co.uk/ David Smith mailto:davidbear@kachina.net__ http://www.starknowledge.com/ David Teller mailto:tellercreations@hotmail.com __ New York,NY http://www.danwinter.com/the_gift Debbie Mazur mailto:Chantillyd@aol.com Dennis O'Flaherty mailto:dragon39.ancientdragon@pop.infoasis.com Desiree van Dijk mailto:D.v.Dijk@flash.a2000.nl ___ Netherlands http://people.a2000.nl/dvandijk/index.html Diane Linen [November 21] mailto:linen@flash.net _ Austin,TX _ ICQ 5019987 Doreen Esberk mailto:esberk1@erols.com Dot mailto:DotSabel@aol.com Else Zaboski mailto:ez@i-planet.com Estrellia Sheran mailto:DMNDGalaxy@aol.com_ http://www.diamondgalaxy.com/ GEOFFREY ELLIS mailto:xgeoff@freeuk.com Gregory Pace mailto:SAPHFIRE7@webtv.net Gary Richards mailto:gdr@aiit.net.au _ Australia Gay Avice du Buisson mailto:entrance@icon.co.za_ South Africa http://www.icon.co.za/~entrance/ Gene Latimer mailto:gene@aliveness.net Gerald de Heer mailto:geraldhugh@hotmail.com__ Honolulu http://www.inward.com Gerhard van Zyl mailto:creek@icon.co.za Glenys Lowery [sept 1] mailto:isis@ihug.co.nz. __ Wellington, NZ__ ICQ 21829391 Harald Schmidt mailto:cu.in.hell@usa.net__ Australia Hashim Hassan mailto:hasha94@hotmail.com Isabelle [April 5] mailto:belle@ametro.net __ Mississipi Isabelle Charette mailto:Zaby@vegacom.on.ca __ Ottawa,Canada Isobel Phillips mailto:Spirit@abshouse.demon.co.uk Jalien Shandler mailto:pichuma@earthlink.net James Bryan (TwinStorms)[june 6] mailto:bryan182@bellatlantic.net __ New Kensington, Pa. http://members.xoom.com/TwinStorms/__ ICQ 11179055 James T. Lee mailto:rainbow7@netasia.net Jennifer Hampson mailto:jhampson@goulburn.net.au_ Australia Jennifer Hardin [June 25] mailto:Jennifer.Hardin@archongroup.com _ Irving,TX Jerry Ann Spruill mailto:JSmegan@aol.com _ Milwaukee, WI. Jessica Riadon mailto:Ducky6707@aol.com__ Texas John E. Phillips mailto:jphillips@supportgroup.com John M. Kosior [July 2] mailto:jkosior@mindspring.com__ ICQ 17477456 Jonathan Ong mailto:jona62@hotmail.com Jose M. Paredes mailto:jparedes@dextratech.com Jose Quinones mailto:OwlThundr@aol.com __ NYC Brooklyn Joseph J. Dewey [feb 6] mailto:jjd@rmci.net __ Boise, Idaho http://www.freeread.com Julie Visser mailto:quality@chariot.net.au __ Australia Kam Baya mailto:Kambaya@aol.com Kathy Gucciardi mailto:kathys_place@mailexcite.com Katrina Booker mailto:KBHEALER@aol.com Keith Harris mailto:job@idirect.com Kemal rsdemir mailto:ortagon27@hotmail.com Kerry Basden mailto:kerry@dogmatix.iinet.net.au__ Australia Kevin Shannon [September 28] mailto:kevinsha@oz.net _ Federal Way,Washington,USA Kitty Chastain mailto:mannawell@telpage.net Klaus J Joehle mailto:livingonlove@nucleus.com_ http://livingonlove.com Knight_Templar mailto:aum@philonline.com__ http://members.tripod.com/star_aeuz/ Lacey A. mailto:hanson@innercite.com Lanezach mailto:lanezach@geocities.com_ http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Villa/4789/index.html LeLona Hodges mailto:LHodges942@aol.com Leasa Taylor mailto:leasa@mindspring.com Lia Duggin mailto:groovychick6@hotmail.com LinLou73 mailto:LinLou73@email.msn.com Lisa Folk [July 26] mailto:lfolk@mail.cybermedia-inc.com _ Taylor,BC,Canada http://www.naturalfolks.com_ http://www.naturalfolks.com/keys/_ ICQ 10905362 Lois Fry mailto:loisfry@cyberhighway.net _ McCall, Idaho Lois Smith mailto:smithted@senet.com.au_ Australia Lori Burns mailto:Celtispirt@aol.com Luc St-Pierre mailto:st_pierre@hotmail.com Lynette McCauley mailto:lynmc@one.net.au _ Brisbane,Queensland,Australia Lynne Giles mailto:AGiles7207@aol.com _ NE Tennessee Maghavat mailto:ed9@uclink4.berkeley.edu Margaret Mary-Theres.. 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Mueller mailto:kiwi@spiritweb.org__ Switzerland_ http://www.spiritweb.org/ Rev. Stanley B. Jon... Richard E. Audette [july 11] mailto:rea1@ont.com _ Plano,TX http://www.ont.com/users/rea1/ Richard & Sharon Hoffman mailto:SHARRICH@webtv.net _ Arlington, Washington Rick Audette [july 11] mailto:raudette@southwesttest.com __ Richardson,TX http://www.ont.com/users/rea1/ Rishu Rishabh Shriva.. Robin Bryant [Feb 22] mailto:rbryant@cybertrails.com __ Cottonwood, AZ Robin Richardson mailto:robinrl@mail.netwave.net Roger Earnshaw mailto:earnro@merlin.net.au __ Clarendon South Australia Ron Mullins mailto:ron_donna@earthlink.net Ron Wallachy [October 20th] mailto:RDWALLAC@aol.com _ Portland Or. RosyCross (MAILER-DAEMON) Salahudiyn Muhammad mailto:Salahudiyn@aol.com Samu Karlsson [march 4] mailto:samu3@dlc.fi _ Porvoo,Finland http://www.dlc.fi/~samu3_ http://www.dlc.fi/~samu3/KeystersPhotoAlbum.html_ http://www.dlc.fi/~samu3/JJArchives.html_ ICQ 16569171 Sanna Hanskala mailto:sannah@earthlink.net __ Durham, North Carolina http://home.earthlink.net/~sannah/ Scott D Paterson mailto:sdpaterson@netscape.net Sebastian Schadler mailto:sschadler@sc-stitz.de _ Germany Sergio Correa mailto:scorrea@jps.net Shaila Pacheco mailto:charjol@podernet.com.mx Shania Nelson mailto:sshine88@hotmail.com Sharon Jorgenson [March 13] mailto:jorgen@flash.net __ 50m E. of Dallas,TX Sharri Lorraine [Aug. 2] mailto:l456819@idt.net _ Seattle, Washington http://www.skdesigns.com/internet/articles/healing/healing_keys.html sheena p. raba mailto:sheena_raba@yahoo.com Sheridan.j.le.Fanu mailto:sheridan78@hotmail.com Steven E. Graves mailto:graves_stephen@hotmail.com Steve Mark mailto:pedmar@flash.net __ Arlington,TX Susan (Susi) Alexander mailto:susi@healinghearth.com__ Victor, MT __ http://www.healinghearth.com Suzan Griffith mailto:SGriff1212@aol.com tajue mailto:LBPCMT@aol.com Tatyana Koziupa mailto:tkoziu@po-box.mcgill.ca_ Canada Terrance R. Brennan mailto:TeKnoBabL@aol.com __ Milwaukee,Wisconsin Terrie Rosenthal mailto:terrier@micron.net Terry Wasserleben mailto:twasser@geocities.com Thomas Hill mailto:thomhill@interl.net Thor Holm mailto:thorho@powertech.no Toru Yamachika mailto:toruyama@dd.iij4u.or.jp__ Japan Tracey Hobson [October 20th] mailto:lomaprietakid@hotbot.com __ LosGatos,CA Travis Chapie mailto:t.chapie@angelfire.com Travis Tabbal mailto:bigboss@xmission.com Trixzy Love mailto:trixzy@webtv.net Tsai Tsung Lung mailto:u8632504@cc.Nctu.EDU.TW WS Porter mailto:WSPorter@aol.com White Light mailto:whitelgt@bellsouth.net_ http://www.psynet.net/sacredgarden_ Wolfgang Matthews [April 8] mailto:wolfgang.matthews@virgin.net _ Ockham, United Kingdom Xavier mailto:xavier22@club-internet.fr _ Paris,France__ ICQ 24617686 Y.Charlie boost Yvonne Pisz mailto:ypisz@email.msn.com Zia mailto:zia_19@hotmail.com Zolo Y. mailto:zolo123@yahoo.com Total 169 members The following site will take you to Spiritwebs list of our members. You can click on the names and get more information and bios on those that have provided it. http://www.spiritweb.org/cgi/ml.cgi?list=keys-l&passwd=immortal&desc=1-- have you read "The Immortal" http://www.freeread.com Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-12/5591 From: J J Dewey Subject: Light, Love and Purpose OK, Glenys... I was going to wait a day or so to post chapter 2, but your flattery is working and here is the next chapter ahead of schedule. I see we have some new people posting and would like to welcome Doreen, Marie, Norman, Lynne and perhaps others. Someone thought Clive was new but he is an old timer that doesn't post often, but posts well. Chapter Two LIGHT, LOVE AND PURPOSE Copyright By J J Dewey When the projection of the One Life that produces Love and Light vibrates again, we have four additional rays of energy created, making a total of seven Ray energies. The three are recreated in a lower octave plus four additional making the seven and are represented in the Bible as the "Seven Spirits before the throne of God." In this treatise, we are mainly concerned with the three primary energies of Purpose, Love and Light, and will not deal at present with Rays 4, 5, 6, and 7. We shall pay particular attention to Light and Love, for they are the root cause of the great illusion that separates, or appears to separate, man from God. Both Light and Love have beginning and ending points and all things with a beginning and an end are illusion. However, they are from an eternal source; thus, they manifest periodically for all eternity, but such manifestation always has a beginning and an end, and is therefore illusionary. Illusion, or the dream state of God, is thus a cyclic occurrence, just as we human beings sleep and dream every twenty-four hours. Our dreams may bring pleasure, pain, and experience, and they seem very real while we are dreaming, but when we are awakened, we know that it was an illusion. The significant point is that our consciousness participated in the illusion and this made the experience seem real. Light and Love create the dreams of God and the power of the One Life is projected into the dreams through Purpose. Thus, God is in all things and through all things and is an active participant in all things so long as the illusion of Duality exists. The energy of Purpose is not an illusion, for it has no form, and has no beginning and no end. Purpose is the only energy which is eternal because it is the One Energy. Only Oneness can be eternal. Anything that appears to be more than one is part of the great illusion and will have a cyclic end or rest. The end will always result in unification with the One Purpose, projected from the One Life. The wavelength produced by the energy of the Trinity produces everything there is from the tiniest atom, with it's electrons circling the nucleus of protons and neutrons, to the largest galaxy of billions of star systems. There is no such thing as solid matter. As the scientist divides and divides and goes smaller and smaller, he will find nothing but wavelengths. The electrons and protons and quarks that create the atom of substance vibrate and produce wavelengths, and are in turn created by wavelengths. The wavelength is divided into an infinite number of waves and these waves permeate everything there is, but at the midpoint of all waves is the energy of Purpose from the One Life. If we visualize Purpose as a thread, then we can take any wavelength in existence, whether it be matter, light or sound, and follow the thread of Purpose as it crisscrosses through all form, great and small, back to the projecting One Life. In this simple statement is the omnipresence of God explained. Contemplate this point because it is important. The power of Purpose projected from God is like an interconnecting thread within each wavelength, and all things are created from wavelengths. Within our bodies are billions and billions of wavelengths, all connected by the one thread of Purpose. The wavelengths that produce other humans are an extension of this one infinite thread. Not only are humans an extension of the one thread, but all living things are made of wavelengths and the single thread also permeates them. Even rocks, earth, and apparently inorganic matter is\ made of wavelengths, and this single thread goes through them also. Thus, there is no such thing as matter without Life and Purpose. All form is interconnected by the divine thread of Purpose, making god "in all things". That which produces differentiation in life, quality and appearance is merely the different frequencies and distortions of the one wavelength. For instance, the different colored lights such as red, green and blue only appear different because of their different frequencies, or repetitions, of the wavelength that produces them. Sound is a wavelength that travels through air and produces a different effect because the wavelength of sound repeats itself much more slowly than the wavelength of light. The different frequencies of wavelengths produce different notes in sound. As you progress up the musical scale, you merely create wavelengths of a higher vibration. If one could make the vibration high enough, light could be created. If one could manipulate vibration into form, then matter could be produced. The highest wavelength is the vibration of manifested life which is the projection of the One Life that animates all forms. The life that animates every man and woman is a wavelength of high vibration, but no two groups of wavelengths that create each man and woman are the same. Each possesses different frequencies and tones peculiar to itself. Also, that wavelength that creates each of us does not stay on the same frequency, but changes hour by hour, day by day, year by year, and from life to life. The life that we were yesterday is different from the life we are today, and will change again tomorrow. Our individual frequencies will continue to change until we play the whole symphony of God. Then the music will temporarily subside and all life will return to its source billions of years hence, and we shall share in the waking hours of God. Because we are one with God we shall never cease to be, but we daily cease to be as we were yesterday. All physical creation is, then, produced by wavelengths, and there are wavelengths within wavelengths within wavelengths. All dualities are created by reflections and distortions of the energies of Light and Love that form the one wavelength. Reflections of Love and Light are good and evil, pleasure and pain, joy and misery, hot and cold, positive and negative, light and dark, and most important for this treatise, male and female. The dividing point of all these dualities is Purpose. As the energy of the wavelength swings from Love to Light, the unifying energy of Purpose is sensed, and thus the energy of duality is recharged and sent on its way to expand or contract the form. It may seem strange to say that good and evil is a reflection or correspondence to Love and Light, but an important point to remember is that all dualities correspond to these two energies. In their purest form, Love and Light are not as we understand them, but these two words are the best choice available to us for the two aspects of the wavelength. Good is a distorted reflection of Love and evil is a distorted reflection and misuse of Light. Good and evil repeats itself in history like a great wavelength animated by Purpose, and that which is good in one era can be evil in the next. To understand relationship is to understand duality, for a relationship, or a marriage is a symbol of the unifying Purpose behind duality. Male and female bodies are only symbols of male and female energies. The male energy is a correspondence to the energy of Love, or the Son aspect. The female energy corresponds to Light, the Holy Ghost, or Mother aspect. These correspondences can be reversed if other vantage points are used. All things that are manifest are created by male and female energies and all these energies are united in form through the process of marriage, or union. Marriage is motivated through Purpose and gradually guides all male and female energies away from duality and separateness toward unity and oneness. Relationship, marriage or the union of male and female energies, leads all life forms back to their Source. All things in the universe are either positively or negatively charged. That is, they are influenced more by either Love or Light energy, or they are either male or female. This includes everything from a sub-atomic particle to an atom, a human being, a planet, or a galaxy. Everything is either male or female. There is nothing that is 100% neutral except for the energy of Purpose. Even though it is true that all forms are polarized in either male or female energy, it is also a fact that each form is composed of wavelengths with much interplay between both energies. Within the makeup of a human male for instance, there will be many female energies at work, and so will the female deal with numerous male energies within her. The reason an entity takes a male body in a certain life is because at that time his emitting waves are polarized in male energy. This polarization shifts from time to time throughout our incarnations. Next: The Marriage of the Atoms. Is there a similarity between the bonding of the atoms and the marriage of humans? Does the atomic worlds foreshadow the destiny of man? Post No. keys-l: /1999-28/5592 From: "Christopher Wynter" Subject: Creation If a string is plucked at a single point, it produces a fundamental vibration. It does not produce harmonics or overtones unless there is further outside interference to the string ... Christopher Wynter D.Eng.(Coms) Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-12/5593 From: Marylin Subject: Re: Time on our Side Hi Marie, Welcome to our home and table where we are truly free. Here the empty spot within is filled to the brim and running over and we love when another finds his/her way home. Looking forward to hearing more from you. Love, Light, Peace and Harmony Marylin Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-12/5594 From: Marylin Subject: Re: Time on our Side Travis writes: "Benjamin Franklin said that. One of my favorites from Jefferson is "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. I don't think we can honestly say we have paid that price." Hello Travis I haven't seen your name before. Are you new to list? If so, welcome, come in and sup with us. "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance." I remember reading those words in high school history. I think the principle involved is about the same today as it was then, but I get a different feeling about it now than I did when I first read it. Back then "eternal vigilance" meant what we today call the Coast Guard. Unless Thomas Jefferson understood some spiritual things, that may have been what he had in mind. Today (at least for me) eternal vigilance means far more than physical events. It's a vigilance for keeping myself on the path I have decided to travel. In effect, "eternal vigilance" are very large words. Love, Light, Peace and Harmony Marylin Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-12/5595 From: "xavier" Subject: Re : Re: Time on our Side Clive Culbertson writes: "Once Christians realised they had yet again shot themselves in the foot the legislation was removed. Sorry I have been in lurk mode for a while. I am working lots at the moment (thank goodness). I am enjoying the excellent posts. Thank you everyone. So glad I am on this list with such a Wonderful bunch of people." Yes, you're much rare, but I often think about the first posts you sent that I read months ago;-) Glad you have put another one here:-) (Why do I feel so kind with some people I don't know?) :-) :D I'm really happy to hear from you, I was wondering why you weren't posting. (after having looked at your site.) Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-12/5596 From: Marylin Subject: Re: Creation J J Dewey writes: "My Friends, I have been working on a book about The Molecular Relationship for some time and I am going to begin posting it here." Hi JJ and All I have read chapter 1, "Creation" and am very glad you are putting this on the web. I will need to reread it as I want it to "sink in". My dad had told me years ago somewhat the same thing only much detail was left out. I only got the outline then. I am glad to have the details filled in and look forward to the next chapter. I need to ask you for permission to print off a copy to send to my sister in Texas. She purchased the hard copy of "The Immortal" last year and is also following along with us through my printing off of posts and sending them to her. She requested this of me as she does not have a computer yet. I surely hope she will get one soon. Love, Light, Peace and Harmony Marylin Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-12/5597 From: Marylin Subject: Re: Time on our Side Travis writes: "It reminds me of what Yoda said in "Empire Strikes Back", "Do or do not, there is no try.". Hi Travis I am not much of an "Empire" fan, but those are wise words. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the Bill of Rights. I needed the reminder. Love, Light, Peace and Harmony Marylin Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-12/5598 From: Norman Fleshman Subject: Welcome Thank you JJ for the warm welcome. Am enjoying everyone's input. Norman Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-12/5599 From: Rick Audette Subject: Re: Latest List 7/11/99 Oops, Glenys called it to my attention that I had forgot to remove Zia's name from my list. Sorry, she's not back, I was just working a little too late and overlooked that I had not already removed it. No reason why you can't take advantage of my not so divine carelessness and write her. Her son and hubby are out of town this week, so she might enjoy the company. Rubbing the sleep from my eyes, Rick -- ICQ 19753992 visit my web pages at http://www.ont.com/users/rea1/ have you read "The Immortal" http://www.freeread.com Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-12/5600 From: "xavier" Subject: (most OT) Eva Snead--Vaccines and AIDS Sorry people, this is very way off topic, but I feel I have to pass it on here. (it is long, 50ko) Relevant link about AIDS http://www.virusmyth.com does anyone have one about vaccines? With love and especially purpose, XX. :-) *** From "John" VACCINES & AIDS Interview of Dr Eva Snead by Laura Lee on September 19th 1992. Eva Snead is the author of the book Some Call it Aids, I Call it Murder in which she links Aids to vaccines. You can contact Eva Snead directly by writing to 126 East Ridgewood Court, San Antonio Texas 98212. LAURA LEE: Right now we going to talk to Dr. Eva Snead. Hi and thanks for joining us. DR SNEAD: Hi and thank you for having me. Tell me a little bit about how you got into this line of enquiry." Well I used to be in the practice of holistic medicine and chelation therapy and to those activities and dealing with vitamins and alternative methods I learned to know the wrath of the establishment. After a while I fought against fluoridation of our water supply and we succeeded to the point that we forced a referendum by gathering 72,000 signatures in San Antonio, Texas." Do you think it could be done in Seattle? "Anything can be done, anything must be done because if you have cyanide in your water you wouldn't like it but you have something much more dangerous. Fluoride is much more dangerous, no doubt and after that I really leaned to know that the establishment was not to be trusted. You just had a wonderful presenter before me and you see to what extremes they will go, I mean they have the bull by the horns. They are running a monopoly and they will lie cheat and steal to keep it that way. And your basic premise on Aids and then we'll get to some of the details is? "Well, the basic premise of the book is that those diseases that are caused by viruses which are cancer, leukaemia, lymphoma, aids being a form of leukaemia and not anything all that exciting. I mean it's been around in other variants before called Tcell leukaemia are all contained in the cells in which vaccines are grown and they are spread through vaccines. When we vaccinate a person or sue biologic products we not only inject the vaccine or the anti-biotic or the insulin but we inject a host of viruses that come with it. These viruses do cause these diseases." Is this an intentional or an unknown by-product because vaccination has been around for how many years, a couple of decades at least. "Well vaccination has been around as much as two hundred years and where as we may presume and you know I'm not necessarily saying for sure because we don't have all the data, but those some of those were not known up until the turn of the century. It is worth mentioning that the Nobel Prize of 1911 was given for the description of the first cancer producing virus." Two hundred years ago we had the observation that milkmaids didn't get cow pox is that what you're..? We have a form of legend carried down as to how the so-called smallpox vaccine developed and because you know of the length of time it is kind of academic to dispute all of the facts, though it's very peculiar that this was developed in a time when smallpox in England was practically unknown because it had disappeared to the point that Jenner had three years time to test his vaccine on a little boy against some people who then came down with the disease so there was a tremendous lag' there was no interest in the disease and it was fiercely combated by the English people and the legend says that we were given cowpox because it has cross defence with smallpox. However, when the specimens of vaccine are investigated today that were made with the original virus, the peculiar thing is that the studies yield neither smallpox nor cowpox but a separate virus which has now been called vaccinia. And that nobody has the vaguest clue whence it came from excepting that we may assume that it's a mutant or some changes occurred but actually it is still a puzzle to the medical profession. It is not the virus of cowpox and it is not the virus of smallpox." So when we started playing around with vaccines we were dealing unknown quantities. "That is correct." OK we just didn't know, don't know enough about these fine units of bio-chemistry to really know what we're doing. We shouldn't even be entering into this field because it's brought us nothing but problems? "We cannot vaccinate as we do with animal products or even recombinant products because these are contaminated and the source of our chronic degenerative ills. No matter what the alleged purported benefits would be, if there were, the fact is that it's so unsafe that it is in no way permissible. I think that no person would permit anybody to get close to them with an inoculation if they would really know how they are made, what they carry, what has been lied to them about and what the real percent of danger is of contracting such a disease which is minimal." Do they still require inoculations in grade school. I know when I was a kid they did. "They're fierce about it. They require more and more and then now they also trying to get children inoculated against hepatitis and they're trying to get children under the age of two or three months, before they use to wait till then, innoculated, which presents extra new dangers of which we can talk in a minute." Polio. I think the first chapter of your book as I am reading the table of contents deals with the polio connection. That fits in here somewhere, I'm sure. "That's correct. The polio vaccine represented the very, very serious step of deterioration in American health and in world health. Whereas until then vaccines were made with the cells of animals that were just rodents or cows etc. when we stepped up the polio we entered a field which was totally unknown which was that of the primates, of the apes and monkeys. Whereas men had had contact for millennia with cattle and farm animals and rodents that live close to him very few men had been exposed to monkeys." Eva, you were just telling us how when mankind started using, started making polio vaccine they turned to the monkey for the raw material and why while the monkey is certainly more related genetically to humans it's not an animal we were in contact with over many centuries. You were telling us why that was so dangerous. "Well you can start for instance with monkey protein which, of course, is a contaminant in the vaccine. Monkey protein is extremely similar to human protein. When you become allergic to monkey protein because it was injected into you and you make antibodies, you tend then to attack your own tissues, a process that is otherwise known as, you know, arthritis, well I don't know if the public would know the term, auto-immune diseases such as connective tissue diseases, arthritis and there are many variants. So number one that is a danger. Number two, the cells of monkeys used to make vaccines are the kidney cells. They are snipped off the kidneys and let grow to cover the bottom of the glass dishes, they are called Petrie dishes and these are seeded then with the desired virus, in this case polio. Now to make these monkey cells grow better they were laced with human cancer cells called. This is the substrate or basis of dirt on which the vaccines grow. Now when you purify them, sift them etc. you know, the manufacturer will strain it and guarantee a product which is maybe 99.5%, something pure. But a zero point five percent of several billion viruses is still an awful lots of viruses." Because they are very small? "They are very small and they are very quantitative, not to mention the protein, not to mention the anti-biotics and not to mention the various juices used to feed this growth such as calf embryo and others. Now whatever virus is in the cancer cells, whatever virus is in the monkey cells, whatever virus is in the solutions that they use to make these cells grow, will pass in part together with genetic material from the monkey and genetic material from the cancer cells, there are pieces of chromosome, some genes etc. into the brew we call vaccine. When you go to the doctor you may see a very clear liquid in an injection or the pink brew that was given to us on sugar cubes. And we may think it is very sterile and very purified but it's not. It's just a bunch of dirty monkey soup." That kind of material had never entered into human bloodstream before in history I mean it would seem to me. "No. Man does not live close to these animals and does not have the opportunity of being that closely interlinked and so the end result of such an unlikely marriage was unpredictable." What do you think was the result then in your own speculation? "Well the result was something that they called the polio vaccine and within a few years of the polio vaccine we started seeing some strange phenomena like the year before the first 300,000 does were given in the United States childhood leukaemia had never struck in children under the age of two. One year after the first onslaught they had the first cases of children under the age of two that died of leukaemia." Were children under two given the polio vaccine? "Yes children then gradually the problem progress, in Illinois, for instance in the early sixties Dr Herbert Radnor observed that in a small area of this little town, in an area where no cases of leukaemia had been expected or at the most one in 4 years according to previous statistics, they suddenly had a rash like an epidemic within a few blocks. He communicated this to the journal of the American Medical Association, it was his duty because he was the County Health Officer, and he also communicated certain information to that service about contaminants in the polio vaccine. The magazine did publish it, which is rather unusual, but apparently were severely reprimanded by those with a vested interest in the product and Dr Radnor was ridiculed, the magazine wrote an apology a month later and nothing else was heard about it. In 1960 the first public article surfaced in which Dr Hillerman, Maurice Hillerman, published that an theretofore unknown monkey virus which they dubbed SV40, had been found in the cells of the monkeys used to make vaccines. Now he also wrote extensively about some of the findings of what this monkey virus might do. According to Austrian pathologist Bernice Eddy, who did an extensive study on it, if she inoculated little hamsters for a very similar immune system virus with this virus they would develop a disease that abnormal white blood cells, tumours, all of which were sarcomas, low grade temperatures that were prolonged, swollen lymph glands. They had infections, they hadopportunistic infections and they died finally of an immuno-deficient state." Now have you ever heard of something that sounds a little like it? I'd say aids but my question would be, if that's a basis for aids how come only certain segments of the population would get it when most have been inoculated? "Oh I'm not saying that that's the only basis. There are several viruses that came in various vaccines that have similar characteristics. Fortunately the fact that we are sprayed with a virus in one way or another does not mean that we become automatically ill. For instance, when somebody has the flu and sneezes at a party it may be only one or two people get sick. The rest do not. For a viral disease to take and cause anywhere from illness to malignancy or cancer, because viruses do cause cancer, despite fervent denials by the establishment, certain conditions have to be met. The first of all of them of course is that the virus has to exist and to have the primary capacity. Then it has to have entered the human body and have to become part of the chromosomes. You know the chromosomes are little strands of genetic material; these strands are very firm, just like a hair is a very firm fibre basically but the occasionally a person has a brittle hair and the same way these strands can be made brittle by the presence of certain weak links. We used to jokingly refer to these as the missing link. Now the virus SV40 is one of these that has the capacity of establishing such a weak missing link. It is a very small particle that is naked, it doesn't have a protein capsule of its own when it enters the cell it wraps itself in the capsule of the cell. And the body can no longer distinguish it from its own material it can assume the body. It can become just like a spy that wears an American uniform although maybe he belongs to another army." Like the Trojan Horse? "That's correct. Now the Trojan Horse wouldn't remove the cell that carries the virus. The virus itself is just one of the intruders. It can attach itself on certain sites of these forty six chromosomes. These sites are fairly well mapped. Scientists know today which characteristics exist, they have mapped many thousands of them. The virus SV40 in particular, and I talk about this because it was the first one covered in the studies. Virus SV40 is the definitive for three or four different sites and you can see it on a picture. One of the primary ones that is important to us is Chromosome 14. Now the reason that this is important is the place where it attaches is the place where the T cells, the famous white blood cells called T cells that are so highly touted in aids, the T cell receptors start on the cells." "It's a very vulnerable point, The body doesn't just automatically just fall apart from one step, thank God. But it is like a thread in a zipper. Wherever the thread is you will have a stoppage in the progress in the zipper, you can't zip up, you can't zip down. Now usually for a certain process to happen normally in a chromosome, this is a logical sequence of events. If there is a stoppage the events may not happen, or happen partially and a disorder we call disease may occur. Now you know of course nobody has bothered to tell the public any of these things. You have to dig them up from carefully never-opened books or books that have never been communicated to the average public. This is just the first step. Why do people get sick? So number one you have to have a vulnerable spot. Number two then you have to have like the match that strikes, you know, the rocket or the bomb and most viruses in vaccines are in an incompleted form and we call them defective viruses they are incomplete in the sense that they can not fully function or invite reproduction as a full virus would. Now I refuse to use the word alive because viruses are neither alive nor dead, they are messages encoded in the form of a protein and something that is dead will never come back to life. If a person has died that particular person, I mean to our present day knowledge, can not just be resuscitated into a functional unit. But a virus that is defective when combined with a helper virus can undergo what is known as viral rescue. It's like taking Legos of one colour and Legos of another and making a full figure. So then you have the second step and the pollutants and contamination and radiation etc. and depending on conditions disease may occur. I didn't say that SV40 causes the disease but certainly it was the first step in causing these weak spots where disease may manifest." And it got there through vaccination? "It got there through vaccination with viral productions and animal cells." Alright talk about the T cells for a minute. If these same people who came down with Aids later on in their life, after they were inoculated lets assume as children with something that then placed these viruses to make that weak link there, if that had not happened, if they had not gotten inoculated and they went through the same triggers, say, environmental pollutants or other assaults on their immune system and health, would they, in your mind, have developed those same progression of symptoms? "From all information I'm garnering it does take that first step of creating the weak link to incorporate the cell either other viruses or even lead or pollutants. That the cell in its pristine condition with unbroken chromosomes that are strong strands does not invite the penetration of such viruses. Now there are other viruses that are weakeners such as other monkey viruses. For it's not just SV40 but this became the most famous because of the publicity. The only one that got any publicity." Can we assume that everyone in childhood got similar vaccines, now they may obviously have been made from different batches but are we all latently walking around with weak links in our T cell receptor sites or does some of the same vaccination or virus particles go and make weak links in .. it just depends on how it was shaken, where maybe it's not Chromosome 14, it's Chromosome 28? "There are certain sites, Chromosome 7 and 3 and so on. All of us, potentially and we can't study everybody's cells, but it is quite obvious that when groups have studied abnormal enzyme processes abnormal biologic processes that didn't exist before these vaccines have started occurring. And abnormal symptoms, the passage of abnormal chromosomes that existed before only in blacks, for instance, have occurred to whites. What happened is the other cells with which they grew these vaccines were human cancer cells. The black population has one enzyme defect that does not occur in other ethnic groups, the same way as for instance Jewish people may have a problem that does not occur in black. Now this particular problem is called glucose6 phosphate and is an enzyme abnormality But it just means that it's different step in the energy processes that functions differently in the people who have the abnormality and which makes them vulnerable to certain things such as malaria drugs and the basic drug of things such as Tylenol etc and this existed only in the black population but one fourth of the population after the polio vaccine, whites that have leukaemia, a disease that has been strongly associated with of course the passage of some of these viruses also often have this enzyme deficiency previously only encounters in the black ethnic group. This means that other chromosomes have passed, undesired chromosomes together with the leukaemia causing virus." I see, so you get a mixed bag and if it shows that there's leukaemia that's just the luck of the draw. I mean it might have shown up as something else. "That's correct. Some people who have other birth defects etc. have a higher affinity for developing the leukaemia form of the condition. So like I said there are numerous viruses. When the media suddenly glamorises something like HIV it's not because it's an earth shattering event that somebody discovers a virus. Those are discovered on a daily basis in laboratories that do this work. But because the media get releases from the US Public Health Service or some other agency for the publication. The media doesn't usually publish medical news unless they get a release from one of these established agencies." Right, they rely on those agencies to let them know ".. "Of course. How should they know about such a highly technical deal." What can mother do today if they would prefer that there infants or their children who have not been vaccinated don't get vaccinated. Do you have a legal recourse to prevent your kids ... "I don't know about the law in your state. They seem to be more lenient than in other states on the eastern side of the country, from what I've heard from people. First of all you have a constitutional right for the pursuit of happiness and certainly the selection of medical approach is included in that amendment. Also religious belief would exclude you. Now usually schools will come after the pursuit of happiness, they ignore the religion they tell you that the government says that you have to belong to the Christian Scientists or some other established religion which of course is false but most people fall for it because they don't know the law. And basically the schools can become very difficult when they deny your child access to school. Now in other states like in Texas there is one law that says if the vaccine would cause harm to the child in any way or manner. Well we used to write that the family had obtained information about potential dangers and that severe mental stress would result if vaccinated and this used to work. In other states you don't have that leeway you have to request the public law, I would go and go to your school principle and say OK now you are demanding that I do this please show me the law. For the first thing they are going to do is show you the regulation assuming that that's the law." Well this is false. "This is the regulation..:" "This is the regulation, the law is the public law of your state. And it usually has anywhere from one to two to three exclusions. You can find something suitable. Now you may get an excuse from a doctor if you find somebody courageous enough there's less and less of those because the doctor get persecuted." I see. Also all of us who have been inoculated as children, I mean I remember going to school and they stick you with this thing in the shoulder and it made this awful mark and that was an inoculation with the vaccine correct? "That was just smallpox." Oh, just smallpox? So I was just wondering how many of us who had that experience a couple of decades ago. I mean what are we walking around with in our bloodstream? Are chromosomes? "That is correct not only do we have these blister forming viruses in us which now we call vaccinia and are neither smallpox nor cowpox and only God knows where they came from. Nobody knows, it's a mystery". But see do you have any idea how you make smallpox vaccines? I think that they take a cow and they pull back its skin and then they put something on it and then they scrape it off that's what I've heard." "That's correct they shave the belly and feed it with pus and scabs, I'm being deliberately gross, if it bothers you please tell me but I want the public to know what they do. And so they feed it with body fluids of the first creature and then they let it grow like you say and let it become purulent and they harvest the pus. It's called pus harvest and you mix it with glycerine and store it in little glass tubes for instance and now you have vaccine. That vaccine contains skin shavings of the cow, it contains cow protein, it contains vaccinia, whatever vaccinia may be, it contains cow leukaemia virus, it contains whatever horrid viruses that cow was just vaccinated with including recombinants. What ever you find in the cow you find in the vaccine and that gets indiscriminately put into t o your skin where now your body can grow antibodies to the cow protein and become allergic to meat, can become sensitive to body fluids. I mean you know the process is endless and this is by the words of the manufacturers. This is not from our words." Are there any benefits to vaccine. Do they actually do that they are supposed to do, which is give you a head start on immunity to something else you are later going to run into? "Well the first benefit of vaccines of course is for the manufacturer. It makes money every time he sells a tube of that brew. Now do they benefit the vaccinee? You have to understand that the assumption that vaccines are good for your health was that. An assumption. People had observed in olden times that those who suffered from certain communicable diseases at least once, seemed not to get it again during life. That includes smallpox, chickenpox, measles but other communicable diseases such as flu, herpes, gland fever which now we call epstein barr, suffer from it rather recurrently. So the first premise that infection with a communicable disease causes permanent freedom from that disease didn't hold true unless you arbitrarily selected the diseases." Right. So you may not get one but you're just inviting in a whole host? "Like opening your door to kick one person out but then a whole flood of undesirables are coming in at the same time." Dr Snead we're going to go to our first phone call which is Darren who is on a car phone. Hi and thanks for calling. "I find your show very interesting because it brings forth a lot of things that don't get talked about. I have a question for the doctor. I'm a member of the military and through the years have received many, many vaccinations from the plague vaccines to everything else and I'm wondering why there isn't a higher incidence of bizarre disease showing up in the military." "But there is for instance I Corps has four times as many cases of leukaemia, lymphoma and associated diseases. There's a constant increase and if you look, if you just run your own statistics on ages at death of people who have been in the military you will find that a lot of them die in their sixties. Now for instance the group that went to the Pacific, has an eleven fold incidence of leukaemia and lymphoma and this is important for the following reason. When the virus contaminating the polio vaccine, the first one not that it's the only one, but when SV40 was first described one of the arguments used in a publication in 1963 is that great comfort, that was the words, can be taken from the fact that in 1942 40,000 men who went to the Pacific were accidentally inoculated with chicken leukaemia and rat leukaemia when a yellow fever vaccine was found to be contaminated with these viruses. And these men have suffered no harm. This was a common statistic. However the men who went to the Pacific are precisely that group with this extremely high leukaemia and lymphoma incidence. People have not yet been trained to understand that since what we are talking about is changes in the genetic system, disease such as cardio-vascular thought to be just simple degeneration due to nutritional disorders also have a chromosome change component and that the herpes viruses in particular can generate those changes in the connective tissue identical to those found in cardio-vascular disease. Military in particular have an extremely higher incidence of danger because they have been given and they are the only group in the world that received a vaccine called adena virus vaccine. This is, they call it gland fever vaccine, they also call it flu vaccine and cold vaccine improperly called because adena virus. This vaccine was found to be so highly leukaemia producing that it was de-licensed for human use in 1962 but it continues to have been used in all the armed forces." Obviously Darren is having a sinking feeling in the seat of his stomach and he is thinking so what can I do to head off the".. What you are describing is a major genetic experiment and we were all the guinea pigs. "Those were the words used in a 1977 article in Atlantic Monthly. They referred to that as the unprecedented genetic experiment in which 500,000,000 people the world over were given an until then unknown monkey virus. I mean that was the words of the Atlantic Monthly. But like I say it doesn't just take one vaccine and one virus to automatically kill you. What happens is that you introduce changes that eventually result in disorders that shorten your lifespan. They are usually not acute death sentences." Right but you're still living in the twentieth century which in these days is introducing a multitude of changes. "That's correct. But like I say the seed is in the changes in the chromosomes. The way to prevent these things from manifesting usually is through proper nutrition, adequate use of supplements, chelation therapy, DMSO, EDTA, oxygen therapy, depending what stage of illness or what stage of prevention you are at. This is a completely different area and I have done books on this but that is not as unknown to the public as the fact of what vaccines can do, what this government, what these corporations are doing. How they are doing it with full knowledge of the crime they are committing, how they are getting away with it. The saddest part is the full knowledge. There is always somebody or some bodies, a few of them, that not only know that what they are doing is not safe but it can be lethal and maiming etc. and often do it deliberately." For the mere purpose of making money? "Well it could be money, power, politics, genocide. You name it, it depends on the circumstances." Another question. Do you believe that the increase in mystery symptoms that veterans are showing up with and are so varied might be caused by some of these vaccinations? "I am so glad you asked that because I predicted it. Look, I think I used a headline like Which Army Wages Bio-Warfare Against Its Own People? And as you may well know these soldiers were offered, not offered that's a mild way of putting it, were threatened and forcefully inoculated with all manner of experimental vaccines with the alleged purpose of protecting them against alleged bio-warfare that never happened excepting it happened with the shots we gave them. I mean if you think that the shots from the enemy are lethal just wait for the shots from your own people." One's a rifle, one's a needle. "Well we are waging a nuclear war it's in the nucleus of the cell, you've got to realise. I mean when you give these recombinant vaccines most of the seed cultures on which they grow are seeded with viruses to make them grow faster. Now the people would not tell you they are contaminating the cell so that they grow like mad. They are telling you they are "immortalising" the cells. "Immortalised", that sounds awfully nice but what they are not telling you is the virus most commonly used to immortalise these cells is Epstein Barre, yuppy disease disease virus . So any time that you are making a recombinant vaccine you are going to have the combined side effects not only of the yuppy disease virus but whatever goes with it." What about the shots you get to go overseas and they tell you you can't go into this country unless you've gotten these shots? There are many different ones and I have not done any studies on them at this point because of the subject matter of the book I wound up studying the viral vaccines and there's enough problems already "". How many other books do you have that you say that you've written on some of these alternative therapies" "I wrote one called How To Win Against Herpes and Aids and I am upgrading it now and hope that I will have it upgraded in about six months and I have written a cookbook just simply for dietary purposes. Before that it was not my aim to get fully into the talking and writing till I wrote this massive production and there really was so much more I had to stop. So one day I said this is the last thing that goes in here. And I just had to stop because the information is so overwhelming. There's no knowledge among the public it's very difficult to introduce a series of ideas for which they've no language and no concept. Darren you're getting this aren't you? Yes. I think you doing real well introducing these concepts to Dr Snead. tonight. Any last question Darren? "Well I hope it doesn't affect me because I've never had choices in getting inoculated. Q: Good morning ladies. I'm trying to corral my thoughts here ....and asking some question. As far as the legality of the immunisation of children in school, I have already come up against this for my twelve year old and in sixth grade they wanted then re-immunised for measles and I disapproved of that. The only way that you can get around it is you have to sign a disclaimer form for the school based upon religious preference and then you don't have to have them inoculated. So you're letting us know that for mothers out there that don't want this to happen to their children how you were successful. "Absolutely. I know it's legal in Washington, I'm not sure about the other states but I'm pretty sure it's the same." OK anything else? The other thing was as far as the immunisations are concerned Dr. Snead is there any correlation between the immunisations and possible auto-immune degeneration.. There is massive correlation. At the beginning we were talking about measles. The measles virus is has very much found in the plaques of people with multiple sclerosis for instance. How about for lupus? "In general you can find viral problems in any and all of these diseases. The virus itself. One of the points of the affinity of the virus and not only the virus but the cell it's growing on which is fiberblasts which are connective tissue cells, of course go into the body and the body starts reacting against them. Now the connective tissue changes when you study the chemical constitution of the abnormal connective tissue you can induce exactly the same change in experimental animals by giving them herpes viruses of various types. Of which, of course, the smallpox family is one of the herpes viruses. And there is one of chickens called Merrick's Disease Virus which is very definitely been associated with hypertension. The gentleman before was saying, well, you know how come the military doesn't have any more cases of this or that?. For instance they have an extremely high incidence of hypertension." This is kept very quiet? "Yes and then most people do not associate something like that with viral disease because they do not know about these changes in the chromosomes." Well the reason that I was asking is because my family, the biologic history of my family is extremely steeped in cancer. Adrenal cancer, small colon, large colon cancer, my sister has lupus. They are treating her for it prescription-wise but they aren't coming right out and saying that she has lupus but it was a possibility. They have been treating her for the last eight years and she's had the symptoms since she was ten and I've been a nurse for eighteen years. I finally went to a doctor with her. She was so frustrated and I said I really think that you need to rule out the possibility of lupus because it appears that there is an auto-immune deficiency or degeneration in our family history on the maternal side." "You can have, already a change in the chromosome that has now been transmitted for a generation. The changes in chromosomes are genetic changes and can occur either because they are inherited or because you have acquired them. I mean you see that in the so-called Aids phenomena whatever it may be. They use the word acquired immune deficiency. What they are clearly stating is the person was not born with particular characteristic which also seem prophetic. When they first put this name to it how did they know?" Well also that means that all of us who got inoculated if we have children we are passing this genetic alteration on to them right? "Unquestionably and for instance children of mothers who received the original batches of Salk vaccine have a high incidence of brain tumours and in those tumours, if examined, the researchers have found the SV40 virus." Wouldn't environmental degradation also add to the complexity and the encouragement of auto- immune deficiency? "Oh, absolutely. The moment that you have a weak point and then you have this vulnerability for lead, cadmium, chromium, mercury above everything, the mercury in silver amalgam fillings, pollution of all kinds, light changes you know you can go through a vast number and array but despite the fact that the establishment like to capitalise on all these poisonings which of course are very important they wouldn't be important if we wouldn't have deteriorated the genetic system first." Well you've been very enlightening and I thank both of you ladies. Before we go to our next caller I want to ask you Dr Snead" Oxygen therapy has been touted as being a way to actually eradicate viruses within the system. Do you agree with that, yes or no? And if so, it can take a virus out of your system but it can't go in and alter back any genetic alteration that that virus has done in the first place. Is that correct? "You're very perceptive. Of course oxygen therapies are wonderful in arresting many kinds of viral condition but you ".. frequencies with some kind of electronic device or another may permit by resonance to remove the false messages..." How can we return it back to its underlying.. "The only way you could do it if you could target that particular frequency and you know flip it out but so far that's the only way." "My personal feeling is that subtle energy therapy is the way that the future, I think that that's the only place we have left to go." We'll go back to the phone calls and we'll talk next with William who is in Tacoma. Hi William. You're on now with Dr Eva Snead on 570KVI thanks for joining us. "How about the seasonal flu shot that they programme for particularly older senior citizens, is that to get rid of the retired personnel?" You know I don't know where you have these wonderful people from that call you but I find all of your listeners to be very perceptive and very enlightened and understand a lot of things I didn't realise the public out there understood. I cannot say that that is what it's for categorically but certain have my very strong suspicions. By the way these are marketed and by certain correspondence I've received, for instance last year, where they were talking is a subtle way of doing experiments. They didn't call them that they said that they set up a model of elderly Latin American females to demonstrate the effectiveness of the vaccine. And of course what they're saying is they have a new batch of vaccine, they haven't tried it out on anybody and so they may have some people that by nature of their financial status and lack of understanding of the language are good patsies for it." Right, because they're not saying effectiveness of what, what do they". "If you are uncertain how effective it is it means you don't know which means you're experimenting we go right back to Nuremberg and we are paying for less than that."My point was the effectiveness of the vaccine to be what. I mean that seems to be the question. I love the way you talk because that's the way I talk. I always say you know the question as far as what... Effective as far as what? "I mean we leave all these ends open and one person means one thing and another person means another." Yes. We are assuming they're there for our best interests but after what you are telling us I'm going to assess those assumptions in another way. William anything else? Well they've a tremendous job of brainwashing the basic public to believing that this is absolutely necessary every fall when the season comes around you got to go and get your flu shot." You see you have a captive audience. "Imagine the benefit to an industry that can produce a product and know approximately how many they are going to sell with insured money because not only can they sell it but they know it's going to get paid for because it's going to be paid for by insurance companies or Medicaid. And so the benefit for the manufacturer is tremendous. He say OK I am going to make 20,000,000 shots and I'm going to make $3 a shot or $5 on each shot and them I'm going to buy some interest in these clinics that in themselves are going to make money in running tests afterwards and of course after each flu shot you know onslaught and people get pneumonia and things like that so their hospital shares are going to go up we are going to sell more of this anti- biotic, I mean you can calculate all that very callously." William thanks for your call I appreciate it. That leaves the line open at 751 5757 if you're in Pearce County lets go to Margaret in Bellevue. Hi Margaret thanks for joining us. "Thank you. I wanted to say that you don't need a religious exemption to keep your child from needing to take vaccines in school. Personal exemption is fine and I signed it for my daughter both in Seattle public school and Bellevue public schools and they didn't bat an eyelash and I've had no problems at all. The only problem I've had was summer camp and I just forged the doctor's signature on that." Clever mother OK. "Yeah now the other question I have and this is called a personal exemption and I expected and argument nothing even in sixth grade for measles she whatever was find in fifth grade is fine in sixth grade too. The question I had was I seem to recall reading some time back in Mothering Magazine. They had a big deal about immunisations and I can't remember the details but I haven't heard anywhere else and my memories kind of hazy I remember reading something that said to the effect that people are born with a certain finite number of white blood cells and when we bypass the normal immune system which is first of all the skin and then the digestive system and the lungs and we go directly into the bloodstream which is supposed to be an emergency back up part of our defence system we shoot viruses either alive or dead directly into the bloodstream what ends up happening is we end up locking up an abnormally high percentage of these finite resource white blood cells into one disease and that's a mechanism for weakening our whole immune system. I'm wondering if, is my memory correct, is that true?" "To my knowledge most of it is correct. What happens is that we get little troops within the white blood cells that become immune against this or that virus and you just can have so many becoming immune at the same time. If you zap the kid with several vaccines at the same time it confuses the immune system. They say it enhances it of course. That's false like everything else they tell us. But it's not so much a finite number of cells it's a finite number of points at which they can become immune. And when you bypass the first barrier which is the skin or the mucus membrane you prevent the production from something called compliment, a protein necessary to the development of a full immune process. The body can defend itself against the normal route but was not programmed to defend itself by penetration through skin. So of course you run into a different kettle of fish and you get sick(tm).." Margaret thank you for your call I appreciate it. Wilma in port Orchard hi and thanks for calling. "Hi and Dr Snead I was wondering are you familiar with the work of Gaston Naessens and his 714X I knew one person who was taking that. It is camphor. You know camphor is an old time medicine I remember my grandmother taking camphor it's injecting in the subcutaneous level and the lymph nodes and I just finished a book which was written by Christopher Bird who wrote Secret Life of plants and I never been so excited about a book in my life. He's got this microscope where he can tell before a disease every happens and this takes care of things like multiple sclerosis and cancer and Aids and all kinds of other things and I spoke about this to Larry King and Dr Stephen Rosenburg last Monday and this man had written a book Transform Cells Unlocking the Mysteries of Cancer and he had never heard of 7i4x and he had never heard of oxygen therapy or ozone for cancer,, anything like that but I just about got him to give his word that if this information was presented to the cancer hotline back there and I got the address and I'm having the information sent and I pray to God that they start listening." Your comments doctor.. "You have to understand that there's the same thing as asking one drug dealer on one corner to step aside and let another drug dealer deal. I mean these people are into it for the money. They have a monopoly going. And they like it just fine the way it is. Now most of these therapies are extremely well known to the hierarchy in the cancer Mafia to the point where they severely persecute those who practice them. Believe it or not there are certain sheets that are surveillance sheets that are given to your oncologist by an association called National Institute Against Health Fraud. It's in California and they are out there to get rid of every alternative practitioner. They keep tabs just like Hitler would have on anybody who may use alternative therapies, both patients and doctors. And they put them in jail, they accuse them of fraud they raid their offices etc. And they certainly have no interest in promoting or disclosing any of this information excepting the interest they have in keeping it quiet because that is how they make money." Oh I see and so they don't want anybody coming on their turf" "Absolutely. Imagine that Jesus came down and said all you have to do is say be healed and here comes whoever's in charge of all the money of the National Cancer Institute and says, wait a moment we are making seven hundred billion dollars out of this." "You're going to put us out of business JC" "Get out of there!" I see your point. Can you spend another hour with us? We'll talk next with Sean in Tacoma. Hi Sean and thanks for joining us. "Yes thanks I have two questions to ask her. One is about the swine flu vaccine that ran panicked all over the country a few years ago and the other one is that I read a report a couple of years ago right after Aids came out and it was about the smallpox vaccine that was given ..the World Health Organisation they went on a crusade where they were going to wipe out smallpox all over the world and they went on this thing, just smallpoedx everybody in Africa and everything and I was wondering if this is one of the reasons why in Africa there is such a large number of Aids cases popping up" Well the smallpox I think he did finish the question but the flu vaccine I didn't fully hear it. But in 1972 the World Health Organisation announced that they were going to get rid of smallpox in Africa. Totally and completely. And that they were going to do so by vaccinating every person who had not been vaccinated. They never said which percentage that was. "Being a tropical country where most people were vaccinated we say it was five or ten percent, who knows they didn't say. But anyhow later on an article was published on the first page of the London times, that was in ' 87, talking about this experience and where the World health Organisation admitted reluctantly that they had used the same needle in passing this vaccine from one person to another." Not very smart protocol was it? "No but you see that's their own words but in their own words they also announced how many people they had allegedly inoculated, that they had supplied. And according to those figures as compared to those from the Encyclopaedia Britannica for that same year they had inoculated according to their statement, twenty million people more that the total population, every man woman and child of the countries in question. Now if you can lie so crassly and have enough people to back you up about lying about how many you inoculate the question may arise of have you inoculated any at all? " Did you use the same ...what did you do? "We don't know anything they are saying be cause they are lying from the moment go. So you know you really have very little frame of reference excepting that there's something very fishy in the whole process." So what is your own personal thoughts on this issue. "Well my own personal thought is that one way or another and you are being constantly given vaccinations, and they probably did something to these\ people and put the needles in. If you would pass needles from one person to another without putting any lymph on it, I mean vaccine, you would still incur severe problems because the best way to immuno-suppress a person is to insult them with tissue from another person. That's how it works so there is a big swathe cut through Africa to our understanding and I wasn't there sometimes you wonder whether you can believe what you read where people are dying, And this swathe coincides with the swathe marked by the first inoculations series of the Salk vaccine before it came to the United States". There were special strains that were used there and were proven to be contaminated. There's a very interesting abstract in my book written by somebody who graciously permitted me to use it who had done a very intensive study about the strains of vaccines used in Africa. "So OK we don't know what happened but " We know that something happened. There is another issue to this. In 1959 the water of the Congo river was deliberately contaminated with a virus by admission of those who did it if we can believe them. We go right back to the same thing. In the hearings on covert activities by Senator Frank Church, these were hearings in 1975, there was confession that in late 1950s Prince Baudoin from Belgium requested the help of the Central Intelligence Agency to get rid of what was known as Freedom fighters in the Belgian Congo. The groups were called the Mau Mau. People of those parts would remember them and their leaders were Casa Bubu and Lamumba. Now since they were causing a lot of problems for the people there a requested was made to the National Cancer Institute to produce a virus and/or drug to severely maim or kill these people by an apparently native illness. The agent of the CIA and then the doctor confessed at the Senator's meeting that they had dumped the virus into the Congo River." You know I was just recently reading an experiment that was done with a "Harmless virus" that they wanted to see the dispersion rate of it so they put this coded tag, so they could pick it up again, virus on chairs of one airport gate and I think within three weeks they were finding it all over the United States. So it doesn't take a lot to disperse a virus. Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-12/5601 From: J J Dewey Subject: Outside or Inside? Chris makes a comment worthy of comment : "If a string is plucked at a single point, it produces a fundamental vibration. It does not produce harmonics or overtones unless there is further outside interference to the string." God does not pluck the string, but is in the string, or wavelength and adjusts the vibration by the power of decision. The infinite number of wavelengths are occupied by intelligence just as our bodies have intelligence in them (us). As the lives within the physical bodies (which is also made of wavelengths) produce harmonics and overtones so do all lives on all levels evolve through the small and great vibrating wavelengths. The reflections of the One Great Life do all the building in the universe with their developing intelligence. The One God experiences through them and thus does He savor all experiences within the realm of possibility. JJ Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-12/5602 From: Aley Subject: Re: Outside or Inside? I love this Aley "The reflections of the One Great Life do all the building in the universe with their developing intelligence. The One God experiences through them and thus does He savor all experiences within the realm of possibility. JJ" Post No.keys-l: /1999-07-12/5603 From: (Richard/ Sharon) Subject: Creation JJ, thank you for chapter 2, we have heard some of this in other discussions, it seems that one can hear basically the same message from many different sources, but one speaker stands out from all the others in truth, vision, clarity and completeness and yours fills me and resonates within me totally, as with chapter 1, i want to digest this completely so will need more readings, but please don't stop bringing the chapters to us. BTW, Glenys, many thanks for your words that prompted JJ to send us chapter 2, don't stop nudging. love to all, sharon Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-12/5604 From: "GEOFFREY ELLIS" Subject: Re: Creation Hi all I have only joined this list today and I see that I have missed chapter one of Creation. Please would someone repost it so that I can have a read. Thanks Geoffrey Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-12/5605 From: "GEOFFREY ELLIS" Subject: Fw: Re: Creation "I see that I have missed chapter one of Creation." Thanks very much to Sharon for supplying the above information. I shall now have a quiet read. Geoffrey Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-13/5606 From: "Jennifer Hampson" Subject: Re: The Molecular Relationship Dear JJ And all this time I've been under the illusion that the answer to the meaning of life was "42"! I can see that when Sharon and Richard said "wow", it was the right word for the first chapter of your new book. Sending you all the flattery and compliments that exist in the 7 worlds...now can we have chapter 3? Only kidding, I'm not that much of a spiritual greedy guts. Chapters 1 & 2 will satisfy me for a long time. Thanks. Love Jennifer Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-13/5607 From: Rick Audette Subject: Re: (most OT) Eva Snead--Vaccines and AIDS Yes, I've been saying this for years. Aids is a big deal and a cash cow for those that would like to have authority over the masses. Truth is, poor diet and mosquito bites kill more people, every year, than aids has since we first heard of it. Rick Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-13/5608 From: Rick Audette Subject: Re: Outside or Inside? Chris makes a comment worthy of comment: "If a string is plucked at a single point, it produces a fundamental vibration. It does not produce harmonics or overtones unless there is further outside interference to the string." Actually, as a musician and an engineer, I can tell you that the above statement is not correct. Strings are notorious for producing a full range of harmonics, all of which can be heard in the one note. The overtones can be heard better by muting the string at precise intervals, but they were already there to begin with and just couldn't be heard while the full chorus was sounding. We can detect the difference in the same note played on a guitar or violin because the body of the instrument amplifies or deadens certain harmonics by their size and shape. Do, re, mi, Rick -- ICQ 19753992 visit my web pages at http://www.ont.com/users/rea1/ have you read "The Immortal" http://www.freeread.com Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-13/5609 From: Rick Audette Subject: waves of creation Contemplating creation: There may be some that skim over this topic, thinking it is as boring and unrelated to spiritual matters as those science and math courses we all wanted to sleep through in High School. I'd just like to point out why I think it's every bit as important as the other topics we have been discussing. Frankly, I've never had much luck with meditation. If I sit still and quiet, for very long, I just fall asleep. On the other hand, I can spend hours, days or even years contemplating the mechanical nature of things. Nothing is more interesting than finding out what makes things tick. Dozens of years ago, I discovered that intense concentration on the scientific nature of things would lead to higher states of consciousness. One night, I spent hours on a pocket calculator, trying to find a mathematics constant for some formula I was playing with. When I quit, for the night, turned out the light and tilted back my recliner to sleep for the night, I realized I was not viewing my surroundings through my "normal senses. I was seeing and feeling from outside my body, as if I were looking into a doll house, through one of it's windows. During this same period of my life, I was trying to get a better understanding of the invisible forces of nature, because I and my friends were researching ways to create electricity out of thin air (free energy). I had a copy of a rare book, by Walter Russell, called "The Universal One". In it, he explained how the whole Universe is made up from the one original wave, somewhat like the way JJ is doing on the new web page. I had spent several days reading one chapter, over and over, trying to understand it. I was reading the book on my lunch break. Suddenly, it all became clear and I closed the book and my eyes for a moment, to relish the thought. When I opened my eyes again, it seemed much brighter than it had been. Nothing unusual about that, but then it kept getting brighter. This wasn't like sun light, but more white and intense like that from an arc light. I remember thinking, if this was regular light it would really hurt, but it didn't and, for some reason, I liked and welcomed it. It became so bright that that's all there was. Even I was the light. The light was all there was. Then I saw images, that looked very much like the ones of waves on JJ's web page. At that point I realized that I knew the answer to every question that could ever be asked, even if I couldn't find the words to express it in human speech. And, I seemed to be hearing the voice of God, telling me that I was His Son. The point of all this is this. Yoga, meditation, religion are not what gets you into Heaven. It is the fine focus, directed by one that is searching for the truth, that burns it's way through to the higher worlds. You can look in a church or an atom smasher or a peanut and if you look hard enough, you will find God. I've talked with some "lurkers", who say they don't understand some of the topics we talk about or that those that do post know so much more than they do. It's not that the posters know any more than the lurkers, it's just that we exercise a divine carelessness, to overcome our shyness, in our zest for the truth that we sense in the Keys of Knowledge, being presented. Don't be shy. Jump right in, the water's fine. Your input is valuable to us all and the keysters, as a group, are very accepting and open. I don't know where you could find a more loving family. Your mechanically minded brother, Rick -- ICQ 19753992 visit my web pages at http://www.ont.com/users/rea1/ have you read "The Immortal" http://www.freeread.com *** Every time I do discover It's like love to me By the time there's nothing left undone Oh, what a lover I'll be Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-13/5610 From: Glenys Lowery Subject: Re: waves of creation Thanks for this great email, Rick. I agree that the latest topic that JJ has introduced is very important and I'm savouring every word he writes. I am the opposite of you - I'm not in the least bit mechanically minded but I've had similar 'surreal' experiences through other means. It just proves what we already know - there are many ways to God. But I do enjoy learning about the inherent order and structure of the universe and the underlying love that permeates it and the first two chapters of the Molecular Relationship emphasize that for me. I'm a long way from believing that I know the answer to every question that could ever be asked though; in fact, I'm still trying to formulate the questions! :-) I hope that those who choose not to post know that everyone has something to share. I consider myself to be a beginner when it comes to learning about the true nature of reality but I also know that I will never learn if I don't jump in to make comments and ask questions. I'm sure I've said some idiotic things but I haven't been flamed yet and don't expect to be by this loving group. Do join in if you can. It'd be great to hear from you - and I'm sure JJ would love the feedback too. Love Glenys -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Life is but a reflection of our projection. - Fr. Brian Cavanaugh Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-13/5611 From: Aley Subject: Re: waves of creation I did not get the chapters on this book and would love would someone mind mailing it to me Thank you Aley Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-13/5612 From: Glenys Lowery Subject: Re: waves of creation Hi Aley :-) The first chapter was mentioned by JJ in message 1311 and can be found on his web site as follows: http://www.freeread.com/MR1.htm The second chapter was in the message entitled Light, Love and Purpose, message 1323 which JJ posted yesterday. Love Glenys -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Life is but a reflection of our projection. - Fr. Brian Cavanaugh Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-13/5613 From: J J Dewey Subject: THE MARRIAGE OF ATOMS Note: We may be a little technical in the beginning of this treatise, but understanding will get easier as we go. We'll also finish up on the qualities of the disciple when I get a moment. The Molecular Relationship Chapter Three Copyright By J J Dewey For this treatise, it is important that we look upon ourselves not only as male and female in the physical sense, but also as male and female in the sense that we are two aspects of the divine energy of Purpose. We should see ourselves as separated energies that are working toward union. Marriage, too, is much more than the joining of two physical persons; marriage is a universal order, a bonding relationship. It unites the male and female energies into a united whole. All male and female energies seek this marriage. It is interesting to study the marriage of atoms. In observing them, we must realize that every form, whether it be an atom or planet, possesses a consciousness and life peculiar to itself and is either positively or negatively charged. In other words, it is either male or female. The chemist calls the male atom a positive particle and the female atom a negative one. Within the atom we also have the positive or male nucleus, and the negative or female electron shells which are married to the nucleus to produce something greater than themselves - a whole atom. In the case of the marriage of the female electrons to the male protons in the nucleus, the ratio is always one to one. If there are seven protons, for example, as in the case of nitrogen, they are balanced off with the energies of seven orbiting female electrons. These sub-atomic particles, which are the building blocks of all form, never deviate from seeking this one-to-one ratio. As we study the atomic and molecular world, we do so with purpose, for we seek truth in the ancient truism "as above, so below; as below, so above". In other words, by studying the atomic worlds (the microcosmic) and the higher worlds of planets, stars, etc. (the macrocosmic) and corresponding their relationships with humanity, we can ascertain correct principles whereby stability may be produced. At present, social scientists tell us that three out four of our marriages are unhappy, or unstable. If we can find the secret of how tiny atoms achieve stability, we can then take those principles and apply them to humanity. In addition to the electrons and protons, the atoms are also made of a third major particle called the neutron. This particle is relatively neutral and there is usually one or more neutrons for each proton in the atom. There seems to be no set rule governing the number of neutrons in each atom - just what is necessary to create stability. Most of the lower elements have an approximate ratio of one neutron for each proton, but some of the heavier elements have a ratio of approximately 1.5 neutrons for each proton. In each atom there is always a certain number of neutrons that produces the most stable atom. In carbon, for instance, there are usually six protons, six electrons, and six neutrons. This is commonly called carbon 12. This the most stable carbon atom. In nature there are also trace amounts of carbon with seven and eight neutrons. Carbon, with eight neutrons, is called carbon 14 and is unstable and is radioactive, and tends to break down to a more stable element. To create balance, the protons (male energy) and the electrons (female) then has a marriage relationship with two particles: their opposite charge and the neutral neutron. In these three particles, we again have represented the energies of the Trinity. The neutron represents the Father (Purpose), the proton is the Son (Love), and the electron is the Holy Ghost (Light). Protons and neutrons are composed of electrons and positrons, and have a mass more than 1800 times as large as either of them. A positron is the same as an electron, but has a positive charge. It is the general carrier of the male energy in the universe, just as the electron is the carrier of all the female energy. Within the proton itself is many layers of positrons and electrons of various energy levels, but the outer layer has a surplus of one positron, making it a male particle. The neutrons have a balance of positive and negative particles, making it neutral. However, this is only a relative neutrality, for even though all life forms are seeking balance, or neutrality, none of them are exactly neutral. Anything that has form is either male or female, but sometimes the energy difference is very slight. The neutrons are slightly female. This evidenced in nuclear physics by the fact that neutrons will tend to throw off an electron (female energy) before they will emit a positron (male energy). To assist the lay reader see the diagram of helium - figure 1 at the following web page See Figure 1 at: http://www.freeread.com/art.htm Then as we go smaller we find that the nucleus of the atom is made of up and down quarks. The up quarks have a charge of +2/3 and the down quarks have a negative charge of -1/3. They are always found in triangles which combine to either neutralize or a charge of positive one (except in anti matter where the charge would be -1). Notice how the foundation block of creation is represented by Star of David. This microcosm is built on the number six as mentioned in the Immortal. See Figure 2 at: http://www.freeread.com/art.htm Protons and electrons are normally seen as having a uniform charge but some are slightly more charged than others. In our diagram of the helium atom, we have two electrons circling roughly like planets. Even though they are both female, or negative, one is more negative than the other; no two particles are exactly alike even if the difference is not yet measurable by us. Thus, there will be a secondary marriage relationship between the two electrons. The electron with the lowest negative charge assumes the role of the male and the other the female. The protons play upon each other's energies in the same way and the electrons have some interplay with the neutrons. Thus, each particle has a Trinity of marriage relationships: one major and two minor. This Trinity of relationships produces the stable atom. An interesting principle to contemplate is that all male and female energies in the universe are seeking stability, or neutrality. In other words, they seek to return to the energy of Purpose. The prodigal son of form is seeking to return to his father. This stability, or return, is always reached through marriage. Thus, marriage is a universal principle used to unite all male and female energies. We have been talking about atoms in the microcosm, but there are also greater atoms in the macrocosm. Our Earth, with one moon, is like a great hydrogen atom, but the next true atomic correspondence is the Sun, with the planets circling it. On an even greater scale, the galaxies, which are composed of billions of stars, correspond to great positive and negative charges. Even the universe itself is a great ball of galaxies that will form a positive charge that will eventually become much more than an atom. Man, who finds himself between the great and small atoms, is an atom on his own level and has the great destiny to create building blocks that will evolve into higher life forms through marriage, just as the marriage of atoms produced Molecules that eventually created life which finally evolved into man. So too must man create life greater than himself through marriage. This will lead us to the evolution of life consciousness hitherto undreamed of, and powers we cannot at present fathom, until man attains all the powers of godliness and creates in his own image a grand heavenly man. The correspondence of man to an atom is most interesting to make. The physical body corresponds to the nucleus of protons and neutrons and the normally unseen aura that circles around him corresponds to the orbiting electrons. The nucleus of an atom has a mass of up to 4,000 times that of its electrons. So too does man's dense physical body account for almost all his mass. The female energy circling man/woman has almost negligible mass and is invisible to him unless he trains himself to see it. When the aura is seen, the seer will discover beautiful changing colors, geometric shapes and an aura that actually revolves around the physical nucleus just as electrons dance within the atom. The true shape of man is then circular and he is in a constant state of rotation and movement as the atoms are. The size of the human aura will vary greatly according to the point of evolution, just as will the size of the orbiting fields of the atoms vary according to their atomic weight, or point of evolution. Within man's physical body and extending about a millimeter or two from it is his etheric body. This is the energy field that holds the physical body together and gives it its shape and vitality similar to the job of gluons within the atom. Within man is also seven chakras, or force centers and concerning these much has been written. The first five are aligned up the spine and the final two are in the head. The first is the center at the base of the spine. This center enflames and supports the energy of all the other centers. The second is the sacral center and controls sex energy. The third is the solar plexus; it creates the desire nature and the emotions. The forth is the heart center and from it issues love and wisdom. The fifth is the throat center and from it emanates the high creative energies of the artist and creator. The sixth is the Ajna center between the eyes, called the Third Eye; the energy that creates ideas springs from it. The seventh center is at the top of the head and it manipulates the energy of Will-Power-Purpose. As a person progresses through numerous lifetimes as a human being, these centers of energy open and begin their circulation, and a corresponding negative or female energy circulates in the aura. A lowly evolved person may have only the bottom center or two opened, while a highly evolved initiate will have energy circulating unimpeded through all seven centers. Correspondingly, the atoms have seven energy centers which open into circulation as the atom evolves from hydrogen to radium. These seven centers found in the orbit of the atom are called electron shells. The chemist designates them by the letters K, L, M, N, O, P, and Q It is interesting to note that radium is the first element to have all centers opened and it naturally glows in the dark. In the same way, a human with his centers opened will sometimes have such a strong aura that he will glow and have a visible radiance, like the Christ on the Mount of Transfiguration. The energy centers of the atom are divided into numerous subshells and orbitals, and correspondingly the seven chakras are subdivided into numerous energy pedals. The most interesting correspondence for the sake of this treatise is that each atom is polarized in either positive or negative (male or female) energy and they marry each other. The secret behind the marriage of atoms and the production of a stable Molecule is the master secret to the building blocks of the universe. This universal marriage, which we shall name Molecular Marriage, or The Molecular Relationship, creates for us a pattern that man must follow or remain forever separate and single, damned of his evolutionary progression. After eons and eons of time, humanity has finally reached a point where he must take his next giant leap into the evolution of life. Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-13/5614 From: "Jennifer Hampson" Subject: The Marriage of Atoms Yippee, it's chapter 3! Jen Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-13/5615 From: Marylin Subject: Re: waves of creation Rick Audette writes: "I've talked with some "lurkers", who say they don't understand some of the topics we talk about or that those that do post know so much more than they do. It's not that the posters know any more than the lurkers, it's just that we exercise a divine carelessness, to overcome our shyness, in our zest for the truth that we sense in the Keys of Knowledge, being presented. Don't be shy. Jump right in, the water's fine. Your input is valuable to us all and the keysters, as a group, are very accepting and open. I don't know where you could find a more loving family." I wish to include my thoughts with you, Rick. We here on the list were also at the "beginning" point (sometimes I feel like I still am). The place where we begin to "just know" there is more than is seen by the eye, more than is taught in the schools and churches. Then comes the "empty spot" that leaves us with an indescribable longing and loneliness and that is the point where we truly begin the "search for truth". At least this was my experience. I guess you might say that for some this list is kind of like geometry.........hard to understand at first.......and then suddenly one day the light bulb comes on and everything begins to make sense and we begin to understand. To all of the new Keysters, we welcome you. (grin...even if one of you is a bug from another planet) Love, Light, Peace and Harmony Marylin Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-13/5616 From: Marylin Subject: Re: waves of creation Glenys Lowery writes: "never learn if I don't jump in to make comments and ask questions. I'm sure I've said some idiotic things but I haven't been flamed yet and don't expect to be by this loving group. Do join in if you can. It'd be great to hear from you - and I'm sure JJ would love the feedback too." Hi Glenys I have yet to hear you say anything idiotic. Besides, our Father has a sense of humor too. Still blessing porno mail Love, Light, Peace and harmony Marylin Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-13/5617 From: Aley Subject: Re: waves of creation Thank you I can get the first chapter from his web site but all I got yesterday from Dewey was inside or outside :( and it is looking so good. Aley Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-13/5618 From: Marylin Subject: Re: THE MARRIAGE OF ATOMS J J Dewey writes: "As we study the atomic and molecular world, we do so with purpose, for we seek truth in the ancient truism "as above, so below; as below, so above". In other words, by studying the atomic worlds (the microcosmic) and the higher worlds of planets, stars, etc. (the macrocosmic) and corresponding their relationships with humanity," Hi JJ This chapter has left me utterly amazed. At one time when I was taking General Science in high school, while I was contemplating the chemical elements, I saw our solar system as a huge atom. Then I guess I must have gone into an alternative consciousness because as I looked out at the universe, I saw other "atoms" similar to ours. We were moving through something and I thought it's like we are in a liquid going somewhere. Then I began to suppose what if we really are an atom within a larger person and we are a part of the blood stream. And this larger person we are in is part of an even larger person. And on and on and on. I haven't thought about this instance for years and am amazed.......the knowledge IS within all of us. We just needed angels like you to help us remember. Love, Light, Peace and Harmony Marylin Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-13/5619 From: "David Curtis" Subject: Re: waves of creation Rick Audette writes: "I've talked with some "lurkers", who say they don't understand some of the topics we talk about or that those that do post know so much more than they do. It's not that the posters know any more than the lurkers, it's just that we exercise a divine carelessness, to overcome our shyness, in our zest for the truth that we sense in the Keys of Knowledge, being presented. Don't be shy. Jump right in, the water's fine. Your input is valuable to us all and the keysters, as a group, are very accepting and open. I don't know where you could find a more loving family. Your mechanically minded brother," I couldn't agree more with this comment, Rick. One thing I've found is that it's not always bad to look stupid, or say something that is totally off the mark. It helps to put things into perspective. Commenting on something you know nothing about sometimes helps you to understand the subject better. I know this well, as I've commented on many things in this group I know nothing about. Yet somehow, clarity comes through those words one way or another. - Dave Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-13/5620 From: (Richard/ Sharon) Subject: Waves of Creation Beautifully said Rick, i had a similar experience one when i was focusing intently on something, don't even remember what it was now, when suddenly i had no questions, because i was the ANSWER to everything, that experience is as real to me today as it was the day it happened and it gave me the knowingness that one day i will become that state of being always. BTW to any shy lurkers out there come join us, if you read the archives you will run into many posts with our name on them that make very little, if any sense, i have a tendency to open my mouth (or in this case my mind) and let the thoughts fall out and the group loves me anyway. much love & light, sharon Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-13/5621 From: Travis Tabbal Subject: Re: Time on our Side Marylin wrote: I haven't seen your name before. Are you new to list? If so, welcome, come in and sup with us." Nope. I've been around for a while. I tend to lurk more often then not though. "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance." I remember reading those words in high school history. I think the principle involved is about the same today as it was then, but I get a different feeling about it now than I did when I first read it. Back then "eternal vigilance" meant what we today call the Coast Guard. Unless Thomas Jefferson understood some spiritual things, that may have been what he had in mind." Why would the coast guard have anything to do with it? I consider it to mean that one must use and defend one's freedom or loose it. Travis Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-13/5622 From: Marylin Subject: Re: Waves of Creation Sharon writes: "i have a tendency to open my mouth (or in this case my mind) and let the thoughts fall out and the group loves me anyway. much love & light, Sharon" That goes for me too, Sharon. Love, Light, Peace and Harmony Marylin Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-13/5623 From: marie Subject: Re: waves of creation Hi Dave; This maybe one of those stupid questions. After reading the first two chapters and contemplating their meaning. The thought that sprung up in my mind was that I am really just a thought in the Big picture. What I mean is that I, me, am the little me. By that I mean that I must really be The Big Me. That God is just experiencing Himself through the little me, who is an illusion. Or maybe just One of His thoughts. I don't know if any of this makes any sense. Perhaps someone on the list can make it clearer for me. When looking at the Point of Life I understood, (after reading and looking many times) that we are vibrations of Purpose. And the Purpose originates from God. But the struggle for me is to hold on to that concept. It certainly changes much of my thinking. I have been looking and looking for the meaning of (my) life and in that search keep finding more and more of the puzzle. Anyway, I love this list and I love the wisdom. Love and Light Marie Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-13/5624 From: "xavier" Subject: Re: Re: (most OT) Eva Snead--Vaccines and AIDS Rick Audette writes: "Yes, I've been saying this for years. Aids is a big deal and a cash cow for those that would like to have authority over the masses. Truth is, poor diet and mosquito bites kill more people, every year, than aids has since we first heard of it." I'm very glad you're in tune with me on this;-) Delicate topic. Other post: I too am mechanically minded, and have reached trances in contemplation, of words for instance. Focus leads to higher perception. Concentration too. Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-13/5625 From: mysticbear Subject: Hello all, little newbie here who has been lurking for just a little while trying to get myself organised to participate a little more fully with you. Anyone noticed the 'quickening' of all things, lately. Thanks JJ for The Molecular Relationship - somehow I did not receive Chapter 2, double checked to be sure, so can anyone help? Just a thought, one thing I have learned about the 'nature of reality' is the power of specifics. Could long emails such as the one about, was it aids, virus, or something be posted elsewhere and we directed to it. As you can see I didn't read it and it nearly had me unsubscribe. Some of the previous posts have also been extremely long and I feel this deters some people from really participating. I have found the disciple needs to practice conciseness in all things. The more we all align our minds to the discussion of the specifics of The Molecular Relationship the more energy for enlightenment for all of us around this knowledge. Hope I haven't offended anyone - I am looking for a group with a sincere desire to attain their own self-realisation and enlightenment and who are willing to confront the distractions of the mind. Peace Mysticbear. Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-14/5626 From: "xavier" Subject: Re: Mysticbear writes: "Hello all, little newbie here who has been lurking for just a little while trying to get myself organised to participate a little more fully with you." Welcome hugs ;-) "Anyone noticed the 'quickening' of all things, lately. Thanks JJ for The Molecular Relationship - somehow I did not receive Chapter 2, double checked to be sure, so can anyone help?" Well Spiritweb has an archive, password immortal, accessible from this page: http://www.spiritweb.org/Spirit/keys-l.html Take the last week and read on. There is also an archive of JJ's postings to this list on "Just a thought, one thing I have learned about the 'nature of reality' is the power of specifics. Could long emails such as the one about, was it aids, virus, or something be posted elsewhere and we directed to it." I had no url to give, it is a post that appeared on a newsgroup. "As you can see I didn't read it and it nearly had me unsubscribe." Sorry to hear this. The motivation to post it was that I felt drawn to it, of course it may be delusion, but I tried it anyway. I am very interested by the health medicine healing topic, and adding Truth to it, you have a warrior in that field. "Some of the previous posts have also been extremely long and I feel this deters some people from really participating." I admit easily that I write long posts. Also I don't read long posts, many times. "I have found the disciple needs to practice conciseness in all things." This is your point of view, and it sure sounds interesting to explore that practice. Yet I am not into it at the moment, rather I am into allowing myself to be not concise, and what I most focus on is not to be judgmental about my lack of concision or whatever. I don't mean that you are, I mean that we have (for today) opposing views and focus on this topic. "The more we all align our minds to the discussion of the specifics of The Molecular Relationship the more energy for enlightenment for all of us around this knowledge." Well yes, I envy you for having mind power enough to make an effort at this. I let myself drift, because my resistance to mind effort is too great. And also, I center my attention more on the emotional side of things, trying especially to remain loving and accepting myself, in order to continue growing. "Hope I haven't offended anyone - I" Not at all, for me you're brilliantly sincere and genuine in your claims. "am looking for a group with a sincere desire to attain their own self-realisation and enlightenment and who are willing to confront the distractions of the mind." I am not willing to do this. At least now. Now if my way of posting (in all my messages) bothers you one way or another, the best idea is to tell me plainly what and why. I try to be concise a bit, I could try a lot more if some people asked me to, for instance. Peace Mysticbear. Peace yes, obviously. I'm a bear also, but in this matter I am a butterfly;-) Hoping not to be an annoying bee;-) (yes that's right i'm much of a bee too;-) Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-14/5627 From: "xavier" Subject: Re: Re: "There is also an archive of JJ's postings to this list on" http://www.dlc.fi/~samu3/JJArchives.html Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-13/5628 From: Rick Audette Subject: Re: waves of creation For those of you that are new, every post that has ever been shared on this list can be found in the archives. The next to last line, at the bottom of each post, gives the Url that will take you to a description of the Keys of Knowledge list and a link to the archives. Enter the word [immortal] and then click the button to the right. That will take you to a page that lists all the weeks. Pick the week you want and read all the posts. When you are on the current week, you can set your browsers options to always open with that page first. That way you can have easy access to the latest news. If you just want to read the posts that JJ has sent, Samu has a web page archive of them at, http://www.dlc.fi/~samu3/JJArchives.html and he keeps it pretty well updated. Hope that helps, Rick -- ICQ 19753992 visit my web pages at http://www.ont.com/users/rea1/ have you read "The Immortal" http://www.freeread.com Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-14/5629 From: Glenys Lowery Subject: Re: - Mysticbear Mysticbear wrote: "Could long emails such as the one about, was it aids, virus, or something be posted elsewhere and we directed to it. As you can see I didn't read it and it nearly had me unsubscribe." Hi Mysticbear and welcome to the list! :-) This concern has been discussed by the group in the past as some felt as you do. On the other hand, others felt that they should be able to post off topic emails if it was a subject close to their hearts or only indirectly relevant to the discussion and, on occasions, emails of a humorous nature. It was agreed that we could do this if we wrote Off Topic or OT in the subject line of the email. This warned people who only wanted to read On Topic emails that they could delete the email and not miss anything important to the subject matter of the list. This compromise seems to work quite well. I'm sorry you considered unsubscribing because of one off topic email. Perhaps next time it happens, you'll know to look for the OT warning so you can delete the offending email and remain with us. I'm sure you'll find it worth the effort :-) Love Glenys -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- God, I can push the grass apart And lay my finger on Your heart. - Millary Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-14/5630 From: Anni Ida West Subject: The Molecular Relationship Hi JJ and all I just want to thank you so much, JJ for the 3 chapters of "The Molecular Relationship". This is great stuff!! It is not easy to digest completely and gives so much food for thought, and talking about tension building up ... that is exactly how I feel about these articles :-) Like "Hey, this is important ... where are we going with this? .... I can't wait". In growing tension - love and light to all Anni Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-14/5631 From: Marylin Subject: Re: Mysticbear writes: "Some of the= previous posts have also been extremely long and I feel this deters some people from really participating." Hi Mysticbear I thought I would pass on the little method I use so i can read all the long posts off line. I save the posts down to my Microsoft Word file. Then when I get off line I can go to Word and pull it up at my leisure. I should let you know that if you save as a txt file rather than an html, it will be easier to read. And be sure to save to a word file rather than the dnld (download). I always loose things when I don't and have never been able to find them. Hope this helps you. The aids post is very interesting. Love, Light, Peace and Harmony Marylin Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-14/5632 From: mysticbear Subject: thanks Thanks for the welcome and the responses to my post. The OT warning sounds a great idea and the posts at Samu' web page will be helpful. I guess I was attracted here by the 'vibration' of conciseness that I felt when I have read some of JJ's writings - especially the Molecular Relationship. I have been 'studying' such teachings for a long time and have found his presentation to be exceptional. There are many aspects to who we are and all need to be explored and validated but I have found that development speeds up rapidly when one separates those aspects and explores them independently rather than all lumped into one 'pot' so to speak. I really do apologise if I 'misread' the aims and objectives of this group - I do have a failing and that is 'assuming' everyone is seeking the express route to where we are going. Not saying that that is right, but just some people are searching for that. When one 'assumes' it can return to make 'an ass out of me', (once again, giggle). I will quietly lurk for a while and maybe disappear. Blessings to all for your journeys. Mysticbear Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-14/5633 From: Marylin Subject: Re: thanks Mysticbear Please don't disappear. We would all like to hear from you now and then. You learn from us and we learn from you. Love, Light, Peace and Harmony Marylin Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-14/5634 From: Marylin Subject: Re: Re: Re: Xavier writes: "There is also an archive of JJ's postings to this list on http://www.dlc.fi/~samu3/JJArchives.html" I got problems. I tried the above address on several net engines but they all said they cannot find this URL. Does anyone know which engine I should use? I tried AOL, Lycos, Hotbot, Excite, Netscape and one other. Love, Light, Peace and Harmony Marylin Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-14/5635 From: "Penny Hughes" Subject: OT Jesus Laughed Thought this saying from Edgar Cayce was very appropriate especially with the picture Glenys send out: "If ye lose the ability to laugh, ye lose that ability to be joyous. And the religion, the principle of the Christ-life is joyous. For remember - He laughed even on the way to Calvary, not as pictured so oft, but laughed even at those that tormented Him. This is what angered them most." (3003-1)" Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-14/5636 From: Marylyn J Subject: Re: waves of creation I enjoy reading the interesting things that are being brought to the discussion table. However, I am new at this so everyone PLEASE bear with me. I'm a songwriter with a purpose to serve and learning from you pro's will help me better understand myself. By understanding myself and learning to view life from different angles it helps me to write better songs. I hope you don't mind. So I considered myself seated in the classroom when I connect with everyone on the list. Thank you all for being an inspiration. Marylyn Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-15/5637 From: Glenys Lowery Subject: Re: waves of creation Marylynj wrote: I enjoy reading the interesting things that are being brought to the discussion table. However, I am new at this so everyone PLEASE bear with me. I'm a songwriter with a purpose to serve and learning from you pro's will help me better understand myself." Hi Marylyn, It made me giggle to hear us described as pros because we're anything but! :-) But we'll have no problem bearing with you if you don't mind bearing with us :-) The secondary purpose of this list seems to be a gathering place for songwriters cos there's oodles of them here - obviously a new wave of Spiritual Troubadours coming through. I'm looking forward to hearing more from you - song or prose. Love Glenys PS Love the Cayce quote, Penny. Thanks for posting it. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- God, I can push the grass apart And lay my finger on Your heart. - Millary Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-14/5638 From: (Richard/ Sharon) Subject: OT: Waves of Creation Welcome Marylyn, how wonderful to have so many new family members coming to the table, there's always more than enough food for thought, and we are a very loving and forgiving group, your input will be much appreciated. and i'm sure we'll benefit greatly from your thoughts. much love & light, sharon ^I^ ^I^ Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-14/5639 From: John Kosior Subject: Re: thanks Mysticbear wrote: "I will quitely lurk for a while and maybe disappear. Blessings to all for your journeys." Hi Mysticbear, And one more welcome from another one of the folks. You know, when I read this comment of yours, I thought, now isn't that just the way many people live their lives on earth. They appear for a short time, lurk a while, and then disappear. Now I'm not going to second guess your reasons for showing up on the list, but I will tell you that if you simply disappear, you will have lost for yourself one of the richest learning environments to be found on the net. Far from being on the "fast track", this sounds much more like a "tourist" approach to learning. Of course, if you are considering how you can become "fully enlightened" tomorrow or today, then I'm sure there are many illusionary teachers out there for you. But if you're looking for a more sure road to learning, growing in, and applying life principles, stick around friend! Around here you'll find some folks who's wisdom will blow your socks off. Even if that doesn't happen as "fast" as you'd like. :) Whether here or elsewhere, I wish you all blessings and surety on your path. John Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-14/5640 From: John Kosior Subject: Appreciation for THE MARRIAGE OF ATOMS Hi Folks, I just wanted to throw my hand in for a moment in appreciation of these three chapters JJ has posted. I've been a little busy these last few days, but I'm completely with you all. JJ, these are some great teachings. Well laid out, and understandable. I applaud your efforts, and I look forward to reading more. With Thanks And Many Blessings, John Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-15/5641 From: J J Dewey Subject: Evolution My Friends, Again you will have to journey to the web to read the next installment of the Molecular Relationship. After you finish reading this next chapter you should have a sense that something wonderful is on the horizon. I hope you enjoy it. I am not asking my usual round of questions here, but if you have questions or comments feel free to post them JJ Please surf to: http://www.freeread.com/MR3.htm Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-15/5642 From: Marylin Subject: Re: waves of creation Marylynj writes: "I enjoy reading the interesting things that are being brought to the discussion table. However, I am new at this so everyone PLEASE bear with me. I'm a songwriter with a purpose to serve and learning from you pro's will help me better understand myself. By understanding myself and learning to view life from different angles it helps me to write better songs. I hope you don't mind. So I considered myself seated in the classroom when I connect with everyone on the list. Thank you all for being an inspiration." Hi Marylyn Welcome to the list and welcome to our table. I, for one, an not a pro at this. I may have been years learning what I have learned so far, but I have at least 1000 times more ahead of me to learn. Thanks for the nice compliment anyway. Writing songs is such a beautiful occupation. I am sure you will produce some moving melodies/verses. Hang around with us and wonderful things will happen. Love, Light, Peace and Harmony Marylin Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-15/5643 From: Marylin Subject: Re: thanks John Kosior writes: "Around here you'll find some folks who's wisdom will blow your socks off. Even if that doesn't happen as "fast" as you'd like. :)" Hey John Could I have my socks back now? Still blessing porno mail, Marylin Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-15/5644 From: Mysticbear Subject: John, you wrote: "You know, when I read this comment of yours, I thought, now isn't that just the way many people live their lives on earth. They appear for a short time, lurk a while, and then disappear" if it was good enough for Jesus surely we could allow ourselves a little of the same...... some peoples lives do not improve because they are unwilling to let go the attachment to their lives. and you wrote "But if you're looking for a more sure road to learning, growing in, and applying life principles, stick around friend! Around here you'll find some folks who's wisdom will blow your socks off" Wisdom and Knowledge are concepts that are the greatest deterrent to unlocking the 'ultimate reality/realities' I wish you all well on the journey and I won't lurk. Mysticbear Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-15/5645 From: Aley Subject: Re: Hmmm this statement is certainly enough to pull me out of lurker's mode. :) Can you go a little deeper into this? Aley "Wisdom and Knowledge are concepts that are the greatest deterrent to unlocking the 'ultimate reality/realities' Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-15/5646 From: (Richard/ Sharon) Subject: porno spam Hi Marylin, we recently found 3 more addresses to flip porno spams to, well actually, we have 4, but 1 is for webtv users only (i think). i, like you was blessing it, but since it wouldn't stop i wanted a more active participation, on my part, so if you would like a couple of more addresses just let me know, we fellow spamees must stick together. love & light, sharon ^I^ ^I^ Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-15/5647 From: (Richard/ Sharon) Subject: The Molecular Relationship no questions, yet!, comment? yes! WOW! i seem to be a "johnnie-one-note" on this teaching, but the wheels are turning and i am understanding some of it on first reading, then some goes away, and must be re-read. so you can see i need several readings to anchor it all, but THANK YOU, JJ. in deep love and light, sharon & richard ^I^ ^I^ Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-15/5648 From: Marylin Subject: Re: porno spam Sharon writes: "we fellow spamees must stick together. love & light, sharon ^I^ ^I^" Thanks Sharon. I would like the addresses. However, I have found that I get no more than 2 a day now. I have been wary of opening them just to forward them because this is my daughter's brand new computer and I don't want to inadvertently pull in a virus. We never really know where they are. but you are right. they should be forwarded to some place that can put a stop to a few of them anyway. Love, Light, Peace and Harmony Marylin Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-15/5649 From: Marylin Subject: Re: Evolution J J Dewey writes: "I hope you enjoy it. I am not asking my usual round of questions here, but if you have questions or comments feel free to post them" Hi JJ I am totally amazed and delighted to finally get some of the answers I have been searching for. Now everything is beginning to make sense; it's the puzzle pieces falling neatly into place. Thank you for sharing this with us on the net so we won't have to wait to get the book. (I will want one anyway) Looking forward to the next posting. Love, Light, Peace and Harmony Marylin Post No. keys-l: /1999-07-15/5650 From: J J Dewey Subject: Human Relationships CHAPTER FIVE HUMAN RELATIONSHIPS Copyright By J J Dewey The foundation of the family unit through the establishment of the marriage bond was the foreshadowing of The Molecular Relationship. The one-to-one monogamous relationship has been historically proven to be the most natural and stable one existing among men and women. In this union, the man is like a positive ionic atom who takes a negative ion and together produce a whole with greater properties than either alone have. These greater properties appear, however, only when there is true union. When this union is consummated, the couple has the power to become as one entity, with much greater strength and power than the one sex alone. Unfortunately, few ever achieve true union, for about half of all marriages end in divorce. Of the married, surveys reveal that about 75% of all couples are eventually not happy with their marriage, and would leave their relationships if the right opportunity presented itself. Thus, about 25% of married couples have achieved relative stability and happiness, and therefore have attained a degree of molecular bonding. The creation, or hope of creation, of this simple Molecule (or completed atom) has been the impetus behind almost all great social evolutionary systems among humanity. Because of marriage, man began to build homes and protect the family unit. The gathering of married couples created cities. The gathering of cities produced nations. With these gatherings came many governments and business orders, all of which are in some way indebted to the marriage order. In one way or another all the progress mankind has made is because of the first Molecular Order: successful male-female bonds. At this point we may pose this thought for consideration: less than 25% of married couples practice any semblance of molecular relationship and few if any of them have a fullness of sharing. Many of these stable marriages occurred because of chance; that is, the couple were lucky enough to find each other, someone they could live with. Even so, this feeble approach to the bonding order of the Molecules has stimulated remarkable progress for mankind. Imagine what would happen if mankind successfully followed the order of the atoms and 100% of married couples were successfully bonded. If the present marriage relationship (which is similar to a simple hydrogen atom) can so inspire man and woman, what heights would they attain if they, with conscious effort , sought and practiced the order of the Molecules? Mankind is evolving toward two aspects of The Molecular Relationship. The first involves male and female interrelations and recognizes the physical and psychological differences between man and woman. This includes the sexual relationship. The second does not involve any physical sex but looks upon male-female combinations as units of energy with either a male or female polarization. These units will unite to eventually form complex Molecular Orders and lift mankind to great heights of consciousness. All things in manifested form are charged with a surplus of either male or female energy, but by nature the charge should be slight. The division of the form of the human into male and female bodies actually runs contrary to perfect balance and creates a sharp separation that causes trouble for us. By nature, all life forms tend to evolve to hermaphrodite (having both male and female aspects contained in one living unit.) The atom usually achieves a high degree of balance with it's male and female energies and only carries a slight charge; so do the Molecules and cells of our bodies. The cell does not need another cell to fertilize it, but contains within itself the male and female elements necessary to reproduce itself. Thus, it is much more balanced than the human being, who is out of balance when separated from his opposite. The present separated condition of the sexes in the human and animal kingdom is unnatural; all such life forms descended from original hermaphrodites and will eventually evolve back to that condition. Unity and balance between male and female energies is the natural condition of joyful l