1999 - WEEK 10 Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-08/3341 From: Karen Surface Subject: Re: The Attack of Seven Hello you guys, It's just like the old time preachers would say, nothing makes the Devil try harder than for a new Spirit arrive at the door of service to the Lord. I don't look at it as the Devil, but the Darkness, same concept though, and have found it to be true. One must remain aware all the time, the Darkness is seductive and insidious. Love and Light karen Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-08/3342 From: LeLona Hodges Subject: The Attack of Seven Well, as you might have guessed, I don't see it as an attack, or as darkness or as The Devil. I see it as a change in vibration, and when that happens everything around us has to change to raise to the level at which our consciousness has raised, and usually, if not always, that means automobiles, houses, everything we have constant contact with has vibrations, and those vibrations react to new vibrations we move into. It's a good thing. Lelona Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-08/3343 From: Spirits4u Subject: Re: Latest list Good Morning Rick, ...good to have you back! Just thought I would share more personal info: Patricia Nutting (Trish) Savannah, GA Birthday: October 29th You are doing a great job! Thanks. Blessings and Love and Light, Trish Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-08/3344 From: David Curtis Subject: Re: The Attack of Seven Beyond what JJ said, I believe the challenges in our lives are absolutely necessary for our spiritual development. When I cross a troublesome path in my life, when things seem like they will never get better, I simply laugh in the face of the Dark Ones. I realize that the more they put me through in my life, the stronger I will be in the end. As long as I keep my attention focused on the end result. Never lie to yourselves.. .always, honestly seek after truth, and remain focused on finding it. Remain focused on becoming a better person, and make an honest effort to do the highest good, and you will find that the only thing the Dark Brotherhood can do to you, is make you stronger. This is my belief and testimony. Peace and Love, Dave Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-08/3345 From: (Richard/ Sharon) Subject: we agree with Lelona, regarding changing vibrations, we have begun blessing everything that comes into our property and house from the outside simply to raise the vibrations to ours to lessen any undesired changes around us. This may seem a bit "over-board", but when we see what is going on around us in our very small toown, not to mention the world we have chosen to take this small action of protection along with the song. Love and light to all of you, sharon & richard Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-08/3346 From: kathy gucciardi Subject: Re: The Attack of Seven Hi, I think I must have missed a post or two. Could someone send me a copy of this Song. Like everything else on this planet we have to go through good and bad to get to the Best..... Thank you Kathy Gucciardi Kathys_place@hotmail.com Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-08/3347 From: Belle Subject: Off topic Just had to pass this one on.... http://www.emailjoke.com/songif.html Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-08/3348 From: LeLona Hodges Subject: Evil? Evil Plato: In the words of Plato, "the first expression of the idea is that GOD and nature, which manifest in all things "seen and unseen" are working together CONSTRUCTIVELY for good and that good is the only resultant that is indestructible". Plato says that "Evil is but our own interpretation of the work, or process, of nature that does not appear constructive". The keynote on this subject is: "BEING IS ESSENTIALLY BENEVOLENT." LeLona Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-08/3349 From: Jackie Leve Subject: Re: The Attack of Seven Me Too, Me Too??? i am interested :o) Flutterby ICQ 32808592 http://www.killerbutterfly.com kathy gucciardi wrote: "Hi, I think I must have missed a post or two. Could someone send me a copy of this Song." Like everything else on this planet we have to go through good and bad to get to the Best..... thank you Kathy Gucciard Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-08/3350 From: J J Dewey Subject: I notice that the post I sent yesterday is not listed and there has been no posting for over a day so I thought I would send this test. JJ Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-09/3351 From: J J Dewey Subject: Correction I was still in last weeks folder. Looks like things posts are working after all. JJ Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-09/3352 From: Sharri Lorraine Subject: Re: changing vibrations, blessing everything Richard/ Sharon wrote: "we agree with Lelona, regarding changing vibrations, we have begun blessing everything that comes into our property and house from the outside simply to raise the vibrations to ours to lessen any undesired changes around us. This may seem a bit "over- board",but when we see what is going on around us in our very small town, not to mention the world, we have chosen to take this small action of protection along with the song. Love and light to all of you, sharon & Richard" You might also be interested in checking out things of Sacred Geometry of Drunvalo Melchizedek, Slim Spurling, & Bob Drach. Here is a Link from Christan Hummel's webpage at: http://www.earthtransitions.com There is lots of info here for starters. I've been working with this since August when I heard Slim speak. The results we achieved in our neighborhood is quite amazing! ;-) {\@/} / \ * _\|/_ ~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Love & Light & Laughter Bubbles! :) :) Sharri Lorraine (all small case letters) http://www.skdesigns.com/internet/articles/healing/healing_keys.html *~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~* Since Everything in Life is Perfect in BEing what It Is, having nothing to do with Good or Bad, Right or Wrong, Acceptance or Rejection, I may as well burst out Laughing! >:-( (:-* :-) :-D --- Long Chen Pa --- <>< ><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <>< ><> "Since I no longer think of reality as reality, what reason would I have to think of dreams as dreams?" ~~~ Japanese Master and Poet, Saigyo <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 Love Relaxes, Releases, & Reflects Anything Unlike ItSelf. --Anonamous-- ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-09/3353 From: Marylin Subject: Hi JJ I didn't receive a post from you yesterday. And I have noticed the same with a post or two that i sent out. I figured it was a result of sun flares that Wayne has been talking about. Even the cash registers in the grocery market was slow. Marylin Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-09/3354 From: Rick Audette Subject: Virtue of the week Charity A charitable person expresses brotherly Love, clemency, leniency and interest in the welfare of others. He does this by giving of himself. He feels sympathy, in his heart, towards the pains that others must endure until they begin to develop their consciousness. He is never critical of others. check out the 12 Virtues at: http://www.ont.com/users/rea1/virtue.htm Rick Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-09/3355 From: Rick Audette Subject: Latest list Hi All, Here's the latest list of members. As most of you know, I post this, periodically, to help us all get to know each other better. I include e-mail addresses [removed here Ed.], birthdays and geographic locations. Check out the list, if I am missing information, for yours, and you are willing to share, fill me in. We are one, big, happy family, yes. Your brother, Rick ------------------------ Keysters list 3/9/99 Adrian Bradley United Kingdom Amit Wadhwani Angela Buffalow Angela Hughes Anni Ida West [Dec. 2] Denmark AntonioJosephMartin Aroonas Atif Ahmad Roome BEN THOMAS Becky Priddy Becky Ryan Palestine, TX Benjamin Tang Betty L. Norem [March 1] Panama City, Florida Brian S. Weis Bucks County, PA Brian Loehr CariD Sacramento, CA Carmen Cuadra Connecticut Carole Jarrett Carolyn Elaine Mille.. Clive culbertson [August 28] N.Ireland Colin Walker D. Dailey Daniel kweku olufemi David Curtis Salt Lake City, Utah David Goddard United Kingdom David Smith David Teller New York,NY Debs Desiree van Dijk Netherlands Diane Linen [November 21] Austin,TX Dorian Dot Dr.E.L.Damasco Philipines Else Zaboski Estrellia Sheran Faith NGod GREGORY PACE Garrett Ward [September 9] Flagstaff, Arizona Gary Richards Australia Gay Avice du Buisson Gene Latimer Glenys Lowery [sept 1] Wellington, NZ Grey Alien Harald Schmidt Heather J Schwebel-K.... Irja Foley Ireland Isabelle [April 5] Mississipi Isabelle Charette Ottawa,Canada J. David Stacy Jackie Leve Jacquelyn Walters James Austin Harrison Bartlett, TN James Bryan [june 6] (TwinStorms)New Kensington, Pa. James T. Lee Jennifer Hampson Australia Jennifer Dale Dillar... Jennifer Hardin [June 25] Irving, TX Jerry Ann Spruill Milwaukee, WI. Jerry L. Harris [June 22] Tucson,AZ Jill O'Hara Joel cocks Australia John E. Conner John M Kosior [July 2] Jose M. Paredes Jose Quinones NYC Brooklyn Joseph Darwin Stevens LIMA,Ohio Joseph J. Dewey [feb 6] Boise, Idaho Julie Visser Australia Justin Brethorst Kirk & Louann Sorensen Kam Baya Karen Surface Hillsville, Va. Karla Kathryn Marie Wilson Kathy gucciardi Kemal "rsdemir Kerry Basden Kevin Shannon [September 28] Federal Way,Washington,USA Kitty Chastain Klaus J Joehle Kost K. Kyle Kissmann (Hartill Dorm) NC lanezach Larry Brady LeLona Hodges [june 13] WICHITA,KANSAS Lia Duggin Linda E Linn Edward Jacobs Lisa Folk [July 26] Taylor,BC,Canada Liz Montville Lois Fry Lois Smith Lynette McCauley Brisbane,Queensland,Australia Lynne Giles NE Tennessee Manuel Marques Margaret Eldridge Plano,TX Maria da Conceicao L Marilyn H. Braunig Marilyn A. Maple [June 19] Phoenix, Arizona Mary Dodd Mary S H Lee Singapore Mary Shelton Marylin A. Adams [September 21] Bonaire, GA Michelle Wilson Mira Gimon-Keeler Mistii M_IxChel Nina Smith Noreen Patricia Roach Patrick Shawn Murphy Penny Hughes Jacksonville, Florida Phillip Hertzke Polly Wainwright Proserp France Random Rastislav Strieska Bratislava SLOVAKIA Rene K. Mueller Rev. Stanley B. Jon... Richard E. Audette [july 11] Plano,TX Richard & Sharon Hoffman Arlington, Washington Rick Audette [july 11] Richardson,TX Robert Byrd Robin bryant [Feb 22] Cottonwood, AZ Robin Richardson Roger Earnshaw Clarendon South Australia Ron Wallachy [October 20th] Portland Or. Samu Karlsson [march 4] Porvoo,Finland Sanna Hanskala Chapel Hill, North Carolina Sebastian Schadler Germany Shamus webb Shania Nelson Shantul Nigam Sharon Jorgenson [March 13] 50m E. of Dallas,TX Sharri Lorraine [Aug. 2] Seattle, Washington sheridan.j.le.Fanu Steven E. Graves Steve Mark Arlington,TX Susan Suzan Griffith T.farris Huntsville, Alabama Tatyana Koziupa Terrance R. Brennan Milwaukee,Wisconsin terrie rosenthal The Nurturer Thomas Hill Toru Yamachika Tracey Hobson [October 20th] LosGatos,CA Trish [October 29th] Savannah, GA Vladislav Valicek White Light wolfgang matthews [April 8] Ockham, United Kingdom Xavier doll?ans Paris,France Yvonne Pisz zolo Y. Total 155 members Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-09/3356 From: Hardin, Jennifer Subject: RE: Latest list HI Rick, So I checked the list out and there are 8 of us that live close to each other here in Texas. Two people would have to drive an hour or 2 to get to Dallas but all the rest of us are here in the Metroplex. (And living in Texas an hour or 2 ain't no big deal) Maybe we should think about a Keyster luncheon or happy hour or something. What do you folks say? I really do SO much better communicating in person. Sometimes people read things differently than what I meant when I typed it. Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-09/3357 From: Rick Audette Subject: Re: RE: Latest list Hi Jennifer and other Texans, Yes, I would love to get together with any and all of you. I am pretty flexible as to when and where we meet. I have talked with Steve Mark and he would also like to be there. It might be easier to set something up by phone. My number is: (972)424-4838 Any of the rest of the keysters are also free to call me if they desire. If that number is busy, it's likely that I am on line. We have another number, presently, that the ex had installed, while she was here. I don't know how long it will be in service, but it's active now. That number is (972)633- 9706 Looking forward to seeing y'all, Rick Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-09/3358 From: J J Dewey Subject: Expanding the Ring-Pass-Not I have just a minute to make a post here. My sister whom I told you about earlier died of cancer and we are getting busy getting read to take a trip to her funeral. Glenys told me that her computer broke and will not be with us for a while, but she can still receive e-mail at g.lowery@pharmacy-house.org.nz so you might want to take note and keep in touch. She gave a good answer to the definition of a ring-pass-not. I will repeat it here: "My understanding is that, at the human level, it is a level of attainment beyond which a person cannot go; a stage in a person's growth from which he or she is unable to pass onto a higher stage because of some inhibiting factor in his or her make up, usually a mental or spiritual delusion. However, it can be applied to all levels of creation from sub-atomic matter to the Planetary and Solar Logos and even the Creator itself." "We all have our ring-pass-not. In most humans, it is the level of the mental body which extends well beyond the physical and enables them to operate at the lower mental levels. Soul contact would extend the ring-pass-not and allow activity on the higher mental levels." In other words, the ring-pass-not is the highest point that your consciousness can perceive, the highest point that you can make a real decision. If you cannot make a believable decision to live to be 100 then that decision is beyond your ring-pass-not. Jesus spoke the truth when he said that "nothing is impossible to him that believeth..." but to make the impossible come true the ring-pass-not must be expanded. If we all examine our lives (or perhaps we should examine the lives of others - they are easier to see correctly) we will see that our ring-pass-not in some areas may be fairly high and in other areas may be fairly low. For instance one person may understand many beautiful metaphysical principles yet his ring- pass-not in the real world makes it difficult to pay the bills. How to create abundance for himself is beyond his consciousness, but mystical things are not. We must work to round out our ring-pass-not so the orbit is circular rather than elliptical. When we expand our ring-pass-not then many things become possible that were previously impossible. There is a difference between expanding your ring-pass-not and your belief system. A belief that you can walk through a wall you does not give you the power to do it, but if your ring-pass- not is expanded into this consciousness then you will realize this power is possible and you can attain it if you desire. The mere belief in the possibility has little power but is a good starting point to expand your ring-pass-not if illusion is dispelled along the way. Belief, even in something true, if it is mired in glamour and illusion, can become a millstone around the neck. Question: What is the difference between one who believes he will live to be 100, but will not, and another whose ring-pass-not has expanded so he can really make this happen? JJ Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-09/3359 From: Diane Linen Subject: Re: Expanding the Ring-Pass-Not J J Dewey wrote: "I have just a minute to make a post here. My sister whom I told you about earlier died of cancer and we are getting busy getting read to take a trip to her funeral." My sympathies JJ. I am sorry to hear of your sister's passing. May God be with you at this time. Much love and light to you and your family. Diane Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-09/3360 From: John Kosior Subject: Re: Expanding the Ring-Pass-Not JJ, I too want to send my condolences to you and your family. I know from my own experience that the loss of our loved ones from this earth, though we may know that we never truly lose anyone forever, is still felt as real loss during this lifetime. Please know that you have my love and light, especially during this time. With all the support of the Keyster family, John Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-09/3361 From: LeLona Hodges Subject: Sister's passing I remember, JJ, you asking for healing prayers for your sister, and that I did for quite a while. But as with my step-mother, the only healing that could happen was transition, but a safe and happy one. My step-mother had a smile on her face when she passed out of her body. I offer my sympathy to you and the family members, and I know your sister is in her highest knowing now. LeLona Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-09/3362 From: (Richard/ Sharon) Subject: Love & light J.J., Richard and I send you and your family our deepest love and warmest light to fill you and cover you at this time, we know that no one ever dies. but we so miss their physical presence in our lives. Sharon & Richard Hoffman Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-09/3363 From: John Kosior Subject: Re: Expanding the Ring-Pass-Not J J Dewey wrote: "Question: What is the difference between one who believes he will live to be 100, but will not, and another whose ring-pass-not has expanded so he can really make this happen?" Well, since I am still here, (before the big move), perhaps I can still offer some thoughts. This is such a reassuring teaching to me, because as I examine my life, I realize that in some ways I have accepted some extremely high spiritual concepts, and yet struggle a great deal with other things I see as fairly simple, yet unattained. So to know that I am not alone in this unbalanced condition gives me great comfort. One area that I have mastered to a great degree is that of Divine health. In this regard, I know that I know that I am not required by any law to ever experience illness. And it's in this knowingness that I have found myself virtually free from even the hint of illness or even pain, although I take no special steps to guard myself from ill health. Also, I work quite a bit as a tile setter which can be quite a strain on the body, and yet still without any ill effect. Then, as it regards making a simple living, I find myself extremely challenged. Perhaps what I have done is to downplay, in my mind, the importance of money, such that I create the circumstances which manifest my disdain for such "menial" considerations. So to answer JJ's question, perhaps the real difference between the man who believes he will live to be 100, but will not, and one who actually can do this is that for one to truly manifest their beliefs, they must be of one mind as to their belief. Sure, beyond even a hint of conflicting belief that this will not only happen, but that it will happen for the cause of manifesting exactly what that soul has set out to do within this life experience. In my life, for instance, I know that I have set out to display to the whole universe, and those who I intermingle with, that joy and youthful vigor is possible even in the midst of great challenges. And I say this because this is just the effect I have always had on those around me. Even when one comes to me who faces great challenges in this life, I have had opportunity to display how I have come through other life challenges, and that, still with the smile of one who knows down deep that the experiences of life are all here to bless and build us up. Wow, that was a long answer to a short question. :) Blessings Folks, John Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-09/3364 From: Betty Norem Subject: Sister's passing JJ writes: 'I have just a minute to make a post here. My sister whom I told you about earlier died of cancer and we are getting busy getting read to take a trip to her funeral." JJ, I also wish to extend my condolences to you and your family at this time of the physical loss of your sister. However much we know that our loved ones still live beyond the veil we still miss their physical presence with us. May the Father bless and keep you at this sad time. Love and Blessings, Betty Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-10/3365 From: Roger Earnshaw Subject: Re: The Attack of Seven "Glenys posed an interesting question. She said she has been saying the Song faithfully since she received it and at first things seemed to go better for her, but now lately, things have been difficult." Hi JJ and Keysters, The above prompted a well established observer of the interesting interflow of the group, to make a statement. I also say the song with my wife Jill, before rising each morning, include it as part of my daily meditation prayers and mantras. Also include it in my daily walks, with all my other affirmations, mantras etc. We say it again just before going to sleep at night. I do not regard it as a be all and end all to a perfect life, as I feel that we must ensure a balanced approach to every day, and accept happenings that we perceive as less than perfect. We cannot grow without new experiences, and these do not necessarily have to feel terrific at the time. However after the event has passed on, and upon reflection, we usually can see the lesson, and also whether we learned from it and accepted whatever at the time, and so learned a lesson. Maybe we resisted the experience, and so set up a cause for a similar one to occur in the future? The next time it comes it will be a little stronger, and a little more unpleasant. It will continue to be attracted to us until we cease resisting, accept and give thanks for the learning, and move on. I do not accept that, these are attacks from the dark, but merely conditions we have attracted to us, from which we may learn. Conditions in our lives at times are less than perfect (in our perception) and this is OK as long as the pendulum swing between perfect and not so perfect is not too great. We must have experience of dark, to enable us to know that there is a difference, and to use our power of decision to choose and place our attention on the sliding scale between the darkest dark, and the lightest light, and be, where we feel most comfortable at this time. This is only a temporary thing or attitude, as we are continually expanding our knowledge, tomorrow we may choose another place on the scale. Jill and I do not watch Telly, listen to the news, or radio. Consequently we are not bombarded with the negativity of mass consciousness, and our minds are open to nature and the beauty around us. We are both over 50, and the last 3 years have been the most calm, peaceful and beautiful time of our lives. And to Glenys, and all those on our group who are experiencing conditions of difficulty......... KNOW, that this too, shall PASS ! That will do for now, I will now get back into my observer mode... Love & Light to you all Roger ******************************* "You may only be one person to the world but you may also be, the world to one person." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Roger Earnshaw Clarendon South Australia Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-09/3366 From: Karen Surface Subject: Re: Latest list Hey Rick, You know if Texas didn't take up so much room, we'd all be close enough to have a keyster get together. :0) Love and Light Y'All Karen "Hi Jennifer and other Texans, Yes, I would love to get together with any and all of you. I am pretty flexible as to when and where we meet. I have talked with Steve Mark and he would also like to be there. It might be easier to set something up by phone. My number is:" Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-10/3367 From: J J Dewey Subject: Thanks for your Thoughts My friends, Thank you for your kind encouraging words concerning the death of my sister. Since I live closest to my mother, my brother-in-law gave me the assignment to give her the bad news. She lives about an hour away from me and as I drove there I had a little time to reflect and as I reflected a feeling of great peace fell upon me and I felt a presence which I believed to be hers. I felt she was with me as I had to tell our mother and that she wanted very much to comfort her mother and let her know that she was very happy where she was. I know that she is very relieved to be away from the stress and pain of a great illness so there is no problem for me accepting this. I just hope I don't look too cheerful at the funeral. Nevertheless, I will miss her sweet spirit in earthly form. I probably will not have time to post again until Friday evening. JJ Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-10/3368 From: LeLona Hodges Subject: Re: Thanks for your Thoughts JJ writes: "I know that she is very relieved to be away from the stress and pain of a great illness so there is no problem for me accepting this. I just hope I don't look too cheerful at the funeral." That made me laugh.....and reminded me of the funeral of my cousin, at which I gave the eulogy. I was telling stories about my cousin's younger days on the farm to her then stock broker colleagues and had them laughing at the vision of my cousin in pig tails....it was a joyous occasion. LeLona Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-10/3369 From: Marylin Adams Subject: Re: Expanding the Ring-Pass-Not JJ writes: "I have just a minute to make a post here. My sister whom I told you about earlier died of cancer and we are getting busy getting read to take a trip to her funeral." Please accept my sympathy on your sister's crossing the river. I am sure she is looking down and blessing all that you are doing. Ask for the Comforter and the pain of loss will be numbed. Love, Light, Peace and Harmony Marylin Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-10/3370 From: (Richard/ Sharon) Subject: J.J. Be as cheerful as you like, when my Dad was in the funeral home, on the night before the burial many of his friends and family were there for "The viewing" every one got to telling "their" stories and remembrances and we all got to laughing so loud, that the Funeral Home Director came to ask us to keep the laughter down because we were disturbing the others. Dad must have loved that. Sharon Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-10/3371 From: David Curtis Subject: Re: Expanding the Ring-Pass-Not "Question: What is the difference between one who believes he will live to be 100, but will not, and another whose ring-pass-not has expanded so he can really make this happen? JJ" The one who believes he will live to be 100 probably doesn't really believe it is possible for him to make it that far. The one whose ring-pass-not has expanded so he can really make this happen, not only believes he will make it that far, but knows he will. One of the reasons why I believe I never get sick. I know I have total control over whether or not I get sick, and use that to keep myself from ever getting sick. I think it's a matter of what you honestly believe deep down in your soul. Peace and Love, Dave Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-11/3372 From: Samu Karlsson Subject: Re: Thanks for your Thoughts JJ wrote: "Thank you for your kind encouraging words concerning the death of my sister." Dearest JJ, I too would like to send my warmest condolences regarding your sister to you and your family. May Father be there embracing and assisting you in this time of change and transition, on both side of the veil. I am sending you sister much love, light is shining very brightly guiding her where she is right now, leading her Home. And the beauty of that place is beyond description, but most real in the most profound of ways. "She lives about an hour away from me and as I drove there I had a little time to reflect and as I reflected a feeling of great peace fell upon me and I felt a presence which I believed to be hers. I felt she was with me as I had to tell our mother and that she wanted very much to comfort her mother and let her know that she was very happy where she was." Since my family has had our share of 'losses' recently too, I have experienced many things similar to what you describe above, JJ. Many times the message those who have passed on want to convey is that even though it is of course ok to miss the departed, we should also realize the beauty and joy that is involved in this process of moving on in the Grand Scheme. My grandparents are having a blast on the other side, I can hear my grandpa singing his songs all the time! :D There really is no point in feeling sorry for the ones who go before us, they wouldn't want us to feel that way (mostly because from their broader point of view it's hard to understand:) , but remember all the beautiful moments we shared with them, laughing and crying, and honor life, theirs and in general, life which never ends but always finds new higher forms to itself. "I know that she is very relieved to be away from the stress and pain of a great illness so there is no problem for me accepting this. I just hope I don't look too cheerful at the funeral." I too have that problem at funerals :) At my grandma's funeral, there was so much beauty and I could see my grandma and the beings next to her guiding her smiling so brightly, that I just couldn't resist joining in that joyfulness :) Have to say, that beauty and simple but grand magnificence is very well enough to bring tears of gratitude and humility in the corner of your eye. Life goes on, and Love binds us forever. Thank you JJ for letting us be there with our thoughts at this time. Love Eternal, Samu :) Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-10/3373 From: Rick Audette Subject: Re: Expanding the Ring-Pass-Not "The mere belief in the possibility has little power but is a good starting point to expand your ring-pass-not if illusion is dispelled along the way." "Belief, even in something true, if it is mired in glamour and illusion, can become a millstone around the neck." "Question: What is the difference between one who believes he will live to be 100, but will not, and another whose ring-pass-not has expanded so he can really make this happen?" To me, belief implies accepting something to be true, on the authority of others. For this reason, I have traded in all of my beliefs for working hypothesis/ best guesses. This means that I have a reasonable expectation of being able to prove, in time, that it is either true or false. I try not to bet on the outcome of the tests and be ready to accept whatever I learn. Believe nothing, test everything. Most of what guides us through life is ingrained in us, before we even begin the first grade. When I was that age, in the early '50's, I listened to hundreds of repetitions of the words to a song, sung by Jimminy Cricket on the Mickey Mouse Club. "I'm no fool, no sir-ee, I'm gonna live to be one hundred and three. With that start, I have always felt it was reasonable that I too could live that long, provided that I didn't do anything foolish. Now, from all I've read on the subject, I see no reason why a person who eats a healthy, natural diet can't expect to live to be well over 100. By "natural", I mean a diet that excludes foodstuffs which humans were never evolved to digest, such as grains, beans and dairy. On such a diet, even a smoker could last to over 100. So I think that so long as I eat right and avoid any more noxious relationships, it should be possible for me to live to be 100. So, Jiminy Cricket's philosophy, combined with my scientific research, tends to round out my ring-pass-not and make it possible for me to live to be 100. Now, if I was really clever, I would figure out how John keeps coming back as a twenty year old. Still thinking about it, Rick Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-11/3374 From: Tracey Hobson Subject: Ring-Pass-Not I don't know if anyone else feels this way, but ring-pass-not seems a rather odd choice of words. Why is it called that? (Remember, I had a bit of difficulty swallowing the use of the term "glamour" in the way we use it here - it used to mean perfect make-up, hair, the right dress, etc.! :) Thanks, Tracey Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-11/3375 From: Rick Audette Subject: missing list Hi, I can't believe nobody has posted anything today. I hope there is nothing wrong with spiritweb. I am sending this to see if it gets posted. Rick Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-11/3376 From: Hardin, Jennifer Subject: RE: missing list I'm here. Believe it or not I'm going through the 1400 emails I had stashed in a folder. I'm down to 335 now. When we doing happy hour neighbor?? Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-12/3377 From: Samu Karlsson Subject: Re: Expanding the Ring-Pass-Not JJ wrote: "Question: What is the difference between one who believes he will live to be 100, but will not, and another whose ring-pass-not has expanded so he can really make this happen?" Hi All, :) In addition to what has already been replied, I was thinking that in order for one to be able to make a decision within his ring-pass-not, his consciousness must equal his reality, in other words there is no illusion between what already is and can furthermore become. In this state of mind, one's understanding encompasses all beliefs he sees around him that are already existing as innate patterns within, and because of this a decision that 'not only sees the sea from a-far but can set the ship sailing in the desired direction across the decisive waters' can be made :) The difference between the 2 persons above is simply that the first decision can not be manifested due to it being outside the current ring of consciousness, almost like you can see something but you can not quite grab it, and the second persons decision is inside of his ring of consciousness, beliefs he knows to be true and achievable, so once a decision is made and the power that manifests our reality is being utilized, any desired goal can be reached. Nevertheless, *why* one wants to go a certain direction is another thing. For example, although it would be cool to live to be 100, I don't have a big need to make a decision in that direction. What I choose in this lifetime is to expand my Self to limits, and of course those boundaries grow each day, if I so choose :) If a certain age is within this ring of mine and my highest decision which serves most loving purpose includes or requires physically living 'old', than that will be my choice. I am not really concerned about how long I will be around in the physical, you can accomplish a lot which can equal the goals you set for yourself before you incarnated in a relatively short time. If I've done the best I can before my time comes, If I am needed somewhere else, I will give a big smile to the beauty of Life and say I'm outta here, and yet I never really left :) Love ya Folks, ^S^ :) Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-11/3378 From: LeLona Hodges Subject: Re: RE: missing list AOL was down almost all day. Here it is 5:30 pm CST and I'm just now getting in because AOL is up again. Phone lines probably, that's what they said the last time no one could get in. And now it's time to go home. LeLona Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-12/3379 From: Rick Audette Subject: New and improved List Hi All, I just couldn't wait to send out this latest revision of our members list. As you can see, I've made some changes in the format. I fixed the e-mail addresses so that you can send mail by just clicking on the address. [addresses are omitted at this archive] It had worked that way in MS internet explorer, now it should work in any mail program. I have now added web page URL's, so you can get to know folks, even better. I listed all the ones that I could find, but I'm sure there are some others out there. I am also still adding birthdays, as I learn them. This is an excellent way for us to grow closer. If I am missing information on anyone and you are willing to share, please fill me in. We are One, Rick ----------------- Keysters list 3/12/99 Adrian Bradley United Kingdom Amit Wadhwani Angela Buffalow Angela Hughes Anni Ida West [Dec. 2] Denmark Antonio Joseph Martin http://www.collegeclub.com/~d055777c/ Aroonas http://homepages.infoseek.com/~wizardgm/ars.html Atif Ahmad Roome Ben Thomas Becky Priddy Becky Ryan Palestine, TX Benjamin Tang Betty L. Norem [March 1] Panama City, Florida Brian S. Weis Bucks County, PA Brian Loehr CariD Sacramento, CA Carmen Cuadra Connecticut Carole Jarrett Carolyn Elaine Mille.. Clive Culbertson [August 28] N.Ireland Colin Walker http://mypage.direct.ca/c/cbwalker/index.html D. Dailey Daniel Kweku Olufemi David Curtis Salt Lake City, Utah David Goddard United Kingdom http://www.footdoot.force9.co.uk/ David Smith http://www.starknowledge.com/ David Teller New York,NY http://www.danwinter.com/the_gift Debs Desiree van Dijk Netherlands http://people.a2000.nl/dvandijk/index.html Diane Linen [November 21] Austin,TX Dorian Dot Dr.E.L.Damasco Philipines Else Zaboski Estrellia Sheran http://www.diamondgalaxy.com/ Faith NGod Gregory Pace Garrett Ward [September 9] Flagstaff, Arizona Gary Richards Australia Gay Avice du Buisson http://www.icon.co.za/~entrance/ Gene Latimer Glenys Lowery [sept 1] Wellington, NZ Grey Alien Harald Schmidt Heather J Schwebel-K.... Irja Foley Ireland Isabelle [April 5] Mississipi Isabelle Charette Ottawa, Canada J. David Stacy Jackie Leve http://www.killerbutterfly.com Jacquelyn Walters James Austin Harrison Bartlett, TN James Bryan (TwinStorms)[june 6] New Kensington, Pa. http://members.xoom.com/TwinStorms/ James T. Lee Jennifer Hampson Australia Jennifer Dale Dillar... Jennifer Hardin [June 25] Irving, TX Jerry Ann Spruill Milwaukee, WI. Jerry L. Harris [June 22] Tucson, AZ Jill O'Hara Joel Cocks Australia http://www.faroc.com.au/~stress/nea.html John E. Conner John M Kosior [July 2] Jose M. Paredes Jose Quinones NYC Brooklyn Joseph Darwin Stevens LIMA, Ohio Joseph J. Dewey [feb 6] Boise, Idaho http://www.freeread.com Julie Visser Australia Justin Brethorst Kirk & Louann Sorensen Kam Baya Karen Surface Hillsville, Va. Karla Kathryn Marie Wilson Kathy Gucciardi Kemal "rsdemir Kerry Basden Kevin Shannon [September 28] Federal Way,Washington,USA Kitty Chastain Klaus J Joehle http://livingonlove.com Knight_Templar http://members.tripod.com/star_aeuz/ Kost K. Kyle Kissmann (Hartill Dorm) NC http://soar.to/falcon/ lanezach http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Villa/4789/index.html Larry Brady LeLona Hodges [june 13] WICHITA,KANSAS Lia Duggin Linda E Linn Edward Jacobs Lisa Folk [July 26] Taylor,BC,Canada http://www.naturalfolks.com http://www.naturalfolks.com/keys/ Liz Montville Lois Fry Lois Smith Lynette McCauley Brisbane,Queensland,Australia Lynne Giles NE Tennessee Manuel Marques Margaret Eldridge PleasantGrove, TX Maria da Conceicao L Marilyn H. Braunig Marilyn A. Maple [June 19] Phoenix, Arizona Mary Dodd http://www.synergycenter.com Mary S H Lee Singapore Mary Shelton Marylin A. Adams [September 21] Bonaire, GA Michelle Wilson Mira Gimon-Keeler Mistii http://members.tripod.com/~MistiMooN/index.html M_IxChel Nina Smith Noreen Patricia Roach http://www.spiritweb.org/Spirit/http.//www.highfiber.com/~parfos Patrick Shawn Murphy Penny Hughes Jacksonville, Florida Phillip Hertzke http://www.spiritweb.org/Spirit/ Polly Wainwright Proserp France http://www.multimania.com/proserp/index.html Random Rastislav Strieska Bratislava SLOVAKIA http://www.biela-holubica.sk Rene K. Mueller http://www.spiritweb.org/ Rev. Stanley B. Jon... Richard E. Audette [july 11] Plano,TX http://www.ont.com/users/rea1/ Richard & Sharon Hoffman Arlington, Washington Rick Audette [july 11] Richardson,TX http://www.ont.com/users/rea1/ Robert Byrd Lubbock, TX Robin Bryant [Feb 22] Cottonwood, AZ Robin Richardson Roger Earnshaw Clarendon South Australia Ron Wallachy [October 20th] Portland Or. Samu Karlsson [march 4] Porvoo,Finland http://www.dlc.fi/~samu3 http://www.dlc.fi/~samu3/KeystersPhotoAlbum.html http://www.dlc.fi/~samu3/JJArchives.html Sanna Hanskala Chapel Hill, North Carolina http://home.earthlink.net/~sannah/ Sebastian Schadler Germany Shamus Webb Shania Nelson Shantul Nigam Sharon Jorgenson [March 13] 50m E. of Dallas,TX Sharri Lorraine [Aug. 2] Seattle, Washington http://www.skdesigns.com/internet/articles/healing/healing_keys.html Sheridan.j.le.Fanu Steven E. Graves Steve Mark Arlington,TX Susan Suzan Griffith T.farris Huntsville, Alabama Tatyana Koziupa Terrance R. Brennan Milwaukee,Wisconsin terrie rosenthal The Nurturer Lubbock,TX Thomas Hill Toru Yamachika Japan Tracey Hobson [October 20th] LosGatos,CA Trish [October 29th] Savannah, GA Vladislav Valicek White Light http://www.psynet.net/sacredgarden wolfgang matthews [April 8] Ockham, United Kingdom Xavier doll?ans Paris,France Yvonne Pisz zolo Y. Total 155 members Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-12/3380 From: Samu Karlsson Subject: Re: New and improved List "I just couldn't wait to send out this latest revision of our members list. As you can see, I've made some changes in the format. I fixed the e-mail addresses so that you can send mail by just clicking on the address. It had worked that way in MS internet explorer, now it should work in any mail program. I have now added web page URL's, so you can get to know folks, even better." Rick, 3 words to you: You rock Brother! :D Keep up the good work! Samuel, Son of Karl's :) Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-12/3381 From: Diane Linen Subject: The Cave of Illusion The Cave of Illusion You are trapped in an illusion, a dream. Only when you awaken, only when you remember who you are and then treat all others and yourself accordingly, will the dream end. Imagine that you are a Being of Light. An expression of Infinite Love. You are floating at the entrance of a cave. There are other Beings with you. They tell you that you are about to enter a world created by the beliefs of those who are trapped inside. That when you enter the cave you will believe as they do; that this is real and that this is all there is. You too will believe that you are a tangible creature and that the physical world within the cave is real. You will experience a world of linear time and space, a world of dualistic extremes; light/dark, good/evil, life/death, and so on. You are told that there are demons in this cave, products of the beliefs of those who are trapped within. These demons will attempt to distract you so that you are trapped along with all the others. These belief-created demons feed on dark emotions like pain, fear, anger, depression and regret. They will do whatever they can to keep you in the cave forever so that they can continue to exist. The beings trapped within this world will attempt to convince you that you must stay within the cave lifetime after lifetime until you are good enough, have experienced enough, learned enough or suffered enough. Or they will tell you that you will go to one of a variety of other worlds after this one according to your actions in this world. They sincerely believe these ideas. Do not judge or chastise them. Do not believe what you are told. Do not believe what you see. It is all illusion. Live the Truth. Set an example. Do what you can to remind your fellow Beings who they are. Be your Divine Self in all things. Imagine that this is what you were told before you entered this world. Why would you enter this cave in the first place? You go because you are an expression of God's Compassion and God's Love. You also go because you are an expression of God=92s Creativity and God's Joy. You do not enter the cave to suffer, to be punished, trapped or tested. You enter to remind those seemingly trapped within that they need not do this. You enter out of compassion and love. You enter as a creative and joyous endeavor. You enter the cave because Love is what you are and suffering always draws Love to it. Love loves Itself and will do all it can to end suffering. Even if that suffering is an illusion. Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-12/3382 From: Brian Weis Subject: Re: New and improved List Rick Audette writes: "I fixed the e-mail addresses so that you can send mail by just clicking on the address. It had worked that way in MS internet explorer, now it should work in any mail program." Not in AOL 4.0 for Mac....but I'm used to AOL not following conventions. Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-12/3383 From: John Kosior Subject: Re: The Cave of Illusion Hello Diane And All, This is really a great word picture. What seems to strike close to home is that it reminds me of a recurring dream I had as a child. In this dream I am walking through my house and into my parents room. As I enter, a flame appears in the center of the room, and the face of a figure appears and summons me into the flame. As I enter, I'm transported to a cave. There are other beings there with me, pointing the way to the darkness of the cave. It's only recently that I have understood this dream/vision as meaning that I was here to enter the darkness of this illusion, and bring light with me into this cave. This post only served to help reawaken me and to confirm the interpretation that has come to me in recent days. Thanks for posting this, Diane. Peace, John Diane Linen wrote: "The Cave of Illusion" Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-12/3384 From: John Kosior Subject: Re: New and improved List "I fixed the e-mail addresses so that you can send mail by just clicking on the address." "Not in AOL 4.0 for Mac....but I'm used to AOL not following conventions." Hi Folks! Alright, I have to ask. Is this what this list has come to? I see that we have some one hundred and fifty five members on this list and yet hardly any representation. I wonder what all of you think when there's a question asked, but alas, there's almost no representation of those thoughts. Perhaps it's time to represent what you know. It was given to you as a present, and is only appreciated when it is Re-Presented to others. There are several questions and topics in the queue, or you can introduce a new one, but whatever it is you have on your mind, it would be really great if you shared it with the class. Don't you think so? Just a friendly shot in the arm. Now start talking! :D John Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-12/3385 From: Jalien Shandler Subject: Jasmuheen Intensive Sept 99 -Calling all Lightworkers, breatharians, immortalists!!**!! Jasmuheen 7 day intensive followed by a 22 day program for those who wish to enter the Light Ambassadry and be a part of the Living on Light Global Research team: -Passion, Purpose & Perception in Paradise -M.A.P.S. AMBASSADORS First International TRAINING RETREAT -NOOSA QUEENSLAND AUSTRALIA 5TH - 12TH SEPTEMBER 1999 -7 GLORIOUS DAYS IN THE PARADISE OF NOOSA WITH JASMUHEEN -After spending the last 3 years in Europe, Jasmuheen now offers the first International Intensive Training Retreat in Australia for all those interested in Positive Personal & Planetary Progression. The work of the International M.A.P.S. Ambassadry focuses on pragmatic solutions to most of our modern day challenges. -Discover the M.A.P.S. solution to world health and world hunger- related challenges. Hunger for love, hunger for health, hunger for wealth, and hunger for purpose.... and our solutions to the current drug wars, and more! -We don't need to have ALL the answers for all the world's problems as each one of us carries encoded within the information we need to create our own personal paradise. As each one of us creates our personal paradise so will our planet know paradise. Come and share and build on our global re-education projects. -Learn about the work of the Light Ambassadry with the role of the global media and also the M.A.P.S. Ambassadry's Ocea-Euro Alliance with Maitreya's Educational & Political Programs - "United we Stand - Divided we Fall - NOW is the time for unified ACTION! -Each human being is a system of energy not unlike a computer. Through will, intention and joyful discipline, we can be de-programmed and re-programmed and move beyond our perceived limitations; beyond the struggle of surviving. We can then be free to thrive and serve and have our life here make a positive difference. -LUSCIOUS LIFESTYLES for FUN & FREEDOM; PURPOSE & PASSION! This intensive yet fun filled retreat will introduce practical information and techniques that will awaken within each individual the solutions to powerfully address both personal & global challenges. When we have re-programmed ourselves we are then free to relax and have fun while we effectively EXPAND our awareness ; ENHANCE the planet ; and learn to BE & ENJOY. -We will learn how to create paradise - right here, right now. - Please send me full details of this retreat to: - Name: - Ph: .............................................. - Address: ........................................ - Country: .................................................. - E-mail: - I am one of many who have completed the 21 day process towards living on light...I also have read Jasmuheen's books and attended a two day seminar she offered in Del Mar CA in November of 1998 (where she addressed many topics, including making a gradual transition to breatharianism, by moving to raw foods, then fruit, then liquids, then water). As a result, I highly recommend this gathering to anyone interested in physical immortality, breatharianism, manifestation skills, relationship skills, and creating heaven on earth in harmony with the animals, plants, and minerals. Feel free to contact me for more details; please provide the info requested above, so that I can send you hard copy: -Jalien Shandler Pichuma@earthlink.net -OR: Mail to: The Self Empowerment Academy P.O. Box 737 Kenmore 4069 Australia or Fax: +61 7 3878 2564 Tune in to the COSMIC INTERNET ACADEMY : www.selfempowermentacademy.com.au You will help both me and Jasmuheen's assistants if you mention you heard about this from me...Thanks. Aloha!!*!! Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-13/3386 From: Betty Norem Subject: Re: The Cave of Illusion Diane Linen writes: "The Cave of Illusion You are trapped in an illusion, a dream. Only when you awaken, only when you remember who you are and then treat all others and yourself accordingly, will the dream end." Hello Diane - thank you for posting this today. You didn't say where it came from, but it is the same thoughts expressed in the Conversations With God books - it seems to be the same idea of simply REMEMBERING who & what we already are - that all of the trials & tribulations we suffer here in the physical world are self- created illusions in our 'un-re-membered' state of being - in our attempts to remember our Divine Selves as sparks of the ONE SOURCE, therefore of the same Essence of the ONE. We all need these reminders from time to time, so Thank You!! Much Love & Light to all, Betty --* The spirituality of each soul is such that - the purpose, the design, the desire, the application of self in any direction changes the urges and builds or lessens the emotions in the physical. (Cayce 2279-1) Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-13/3387 From: Diane Linen Subject: Re: The Cave of Illusion Hi Betty, I can't remember now where I got it but it "spoke" to me and I felt I had to share it with the Keysters. I'm glad you and John liked it. Much love and light to you, Diane Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-14/3388 From: J J Dewey Subject: The Initiate My friends, I've finally caught up on a few things and have a moment to make a post. My sister's funeral was an interesting experience. I may make a future chapter in the book around it. She was very loved by all the family and just about everyone showed up, some whom I had not seen for thirty years. I got a bang out of my older brother. He flew up his plane from Long Beach, CA and landed in the tiny airport in Blackfoot, Idaho. Instead of calling someone to pick him up he pulled out a tiny motorized skateboard that he carries with him in his plane and took off toward my brother in law's. It's a cute little toy that scoots along about 20 miles per hour. A few minutes later he shows up at the house riding the thing and tells everyone that he rode the device all the way from California. He said he got a lot of weird looks on the freeway. Nobody knew what to think, after all, that was all the transportation he seemed to have, but then he broke down and told the truth after some interrogation. My younger sister is also in a life and death struggle but she scarified and came to the funeral. She has been going through a tremendous number of tests trying to find out what is wrong with her as she seems to be allergic to everything. They think the problem is this. Several years ago she got hit in the jaw with a baseball and they had to put some metal pins and wires in her mouth. Now they think this metal is causing her problems and making her allergic to almost everything. What I am wondering from the group is this. Have any of you heard about people reacting to implanted metal? Fortunately this sister is crossing beyond her regular religious beliefs and is becoming open to almost anything and I was able to spend some time helping and counseling her. Looks like the group needs a shot of adrenaline here. Let's see what we can do. About living to be 100 I recall that Rick and Samu gave some wise dialog about it. As Samu indicated one should have some purpose in living to such age rather than to just continue to exist. If one wants to accomplish beyond the norm he must not only believe but make a decision within his ring of consciousness. Tracy asks why the term we are discussing is called the ring-pass-not? Why not consciousness-pass-not or some other phrase? The reason is that expansion in consciousness is best represented as circular waves like that of an orbit of a planet around the sun. If we use this correlation then the ring-pass-not of the earth is 93 million miles from the Sun. In its present consciousness this planet just cannot expand its orbit beyond this point. All planets do not have an exact circular orbit. Some are close to circular and some, like Pluto, are somewhat elliptical. Because of this Pluto is sometimes the furthest planet from the Sun and other times Neptune is. Consciousness is best described as circular because it is divided into seven general areas corresponding to the Seven Rays. If one expands consciousness evenly in these seven directions then your consciousness ring-pass-not is seen as circular, but if your development is lopsided then your ring-pass-not is seen as elliptical. If your ring-pass-not is too lopsided then Karma will force you to work on your greatest weakness so your orbit can go back to the circle again. Many of us on this list, for instance are doing fine with philosophy and metaphysics, but struggle to make the money we need. Thus our soul pushes us kicking and screaming into areas of development that we strongly resist, but eventually we get tremendous satisfaction when we yield and succeed. Earlier we talked about the Beast of unearned authority that seeks control over all peoples. Challenging the authorities of the Beast and trusting in the inner God requires a great expansion of the ring-pass-not. This is what makes the power of the Beast so great. It just does not enter into the consciousness of those under its control that it is even within their power to step out of the realm of control of outward authorities. When one finally does expand the ring-pass-not beyond the power of the Beast he then obtains the power to become an initiate. Question: What does it mean to become an initiate? Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-14/3389 From: Diane Linen Subject: Re: The Initiate Hi JJ, Your brother sounds like he's a fun guy. I'm responding to your question of metal in the body since I've had that experience myself. People do react to metals. I have had to take really strong antibiotics before even getting my teeth cleaned due to the metal in my arm. A person with metal has to be careful when undergoing a simple procedure like getting one's teeth cleaned because if a bacteria is set loose in one's system it will go to the metal and can enter the bone marrow and cause serious problems and even death can result. You can also have reactions to the metals and if that happens then it's probably best if possible to have the metal removed. I have another friend who really messed up her ankle and had a number of pins in it to hold it together. After months of not healing properly she had to have the metal pins removed so her "wounds" would fully heal. Her body really was simply rejecting the metal. I hope this may help in some small way. Diane Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-14/3390 From: Marylin Adams Subject: Re: The Initiate JJ writes: "When one finally does expand the ring-pass-not beyond the power of the Beast he then obtains the power to become an initiate." "Question: What does it mean to become an initiate?" Hi all To me, becoming an initiate means to be at the beginning of something new. Call it awakening, if you choose. I feel that we are indeed at the beginning of something new, be it moving into a higher dimension/density or whatever resonates best with you. Love, Light, Peace and Harmony Marylin Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-14/3391 From: xavier Subject: Re : The Initiate J J Dewey writes: "Question: What does it mean to become an initiate?" that might be: to have expanded one's ring-pass-not and power of decision to the point where the individual is able and willing to serve, and receives a "push", a help from above, that boosts him:) Or someway his "ring-pass-not" (the limits of his conscience) and his decision merge and turn the whole thing into a giving thing, not just a receiving, a personal harmonizing one. As a passing from "negative" (receptive and growing) to a positive way of working (giving, not being self- centered). :)just my thought. Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-14/3392 From: Kostya Kovalenko Subject: Allergies; Higher Self J J Dewey wrote: "What I am wondering from the group is this. Have any of you heard about people reacting to implanted metal?" Oh, yes - to silver rings and earrings, to dental cement and to metal on skin and in mouth, of course. "Fortunately this sister is crossing beyond her regular religious beliefs and is becoming open to almost anything and I was able to spend some time helping and counseling her." The allergies is pointing to someplace - maybe if a person manages to open up - all the sickness will vanish... "About living to be 100 I recall that Rick and Samu gave some wise dialog about it. As Samu indicated one should have some purpose in living to such age rather than to just continue to exist." More important, Higher Self needs to subscribe to this purpose otherwise this wishfull thinking or deciding on the part of lower self is to no avail. Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-14/3393 From: Anni Ida West Subject: Re: The Initiate Hi all, My thought is that an initiate is a human being who has come to a turning point in his/her lives. The person is ready to go from a personality-centered to soul-centered life so to speak. There must be a certain amount of soul-contact to become an initiate. Also a wish to serve. I think initiates must have a lot of strength and be able to stand - or at least rise again :-)) - if the earth is shaking under them. They must be able to stay in the light under all circumstances. I think there are levels of initiations. Each one is a shot of energy from "The Ancient of Days" that makes some permanent changes in the person's different bodies. An initiation connects you directly with the White Brotherhood and in the beginning you are doing small jobs - with time and more initiation you can get bigger missions to do. Just my thoughts about this :-)) But I do have a question: If experiences give us the teaching from life to life, and we go forward because of experiences - what good does theoretical teachings do? Like reading "The Immortal"? Please don't get me wrong - I loved reading the book - and I can't wait till no. 3! But does theoretical teaching speed up our progress? Or does it give us the possibility of deciding more consciously? Light and love to all of you Anni Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-14/3394 From: Robin Bryant Subject: Re: The Initiate Hi, I agree with all the statements that Anni Ida stated, but would like to add that I think there is a decision involved to go from the personality centered life to a God/soul centered life. I distinctly remember when I made my decision to do so. The effect on my life was profound. Robin Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-14/3395 From: Diane Linen Subject: Various Thoughts and Quotes KID QUOTES A three-year-old went with his dad to see a litter of kittens. On returning home, he breathlessly informed his mother there were 2 boy kittens & 2 girl kittens. "How did you know?" his mother asked. "Daddy picked them up and looked underneath," he replied, "I think it's printed on the bottom." Another three year old put his shoes on by himself. His mother noticed the left was on the right foot She said, "Son, your shoes are on the wrong feet." He looked up at her with a raised brow and said, "Don't kid me, Mom, I KNOW they're my feet. On the first day of school, the kindergarten teacher said, "If anyone has to go to the bathroom, hold up two fingers." A little voice from the back of the room asked, "How will that help?" A mother and her young son returned from the grocery store and began putting away the groceries. The boy opened the box of animal crackers and spread them all over the table. "What are you doing?" his mother asked. "The box says you can't eat them if the seal is broken," the boy explained. "I'm looking for the seal." A father was reading Bible stories to his young son. He read, "The man named Lot was warned to take his wife and flee out of the city, but his wife looked back and was turned to salt." His son asked, "What happened to the flea?" ********** TEN KEYS TO HAPPINESS by Deepak Chopra, M.D. 1. Listen to your body's wisdom, which expresses itself through signals of comfort and discomfort. When choosing a certain behavior, ask your body, "How do you feel about this?" If your body sends a signal of physical or emotional distress, watch out. If your body sends a signal of comfort and eagerness, proceed. 2. Live in the present, for it is the only moment you have. Keep your attention on what is here and now; look, for the fullness in every moment. Accept what comes to you totally and learn from it, and then let it go. The present is as it should be. It reflects infinite laws of Nature that have brought you this exact thought, this exact physical response. This moment is as it is because the universe is as it is. Don't struggle against the infinite scheme of things; instead, be at one with it. 3. Take time to be silent, to meditate, to quiet the internal dialogue. In moments of silence, realize that you are reconnecting your source of pure awareness. Pay attention to your inner life so that you can be guided by intuition rather than externally imposed interpretations of what is or isn't good for you. 4. Relinquish your need for external approval. You alone are the judge of your worth; and your goal is to discover infinite worth in yourself, no matter what anyone else thinks. There is great freedom in this realization. 5. When you find yourself reacting with anger or opposition to any person or circumstance, realize that you are only struggling with yourself. Putting up resistance is the response of defenses created by old hurts. When you relinquish this anger, you will be healing yourself and cooperating with the flow of the universe. 6. Know that the world "out there" reflects your reality "in here," The people you react to most strongly, whether with love or hate, are projections of your inner world. What you most hate is what you most deny in yourself. What you most love is what you most wish for in yourself. Use the mirror of relationships to guide your evolution. The goal is total self-knowledge. When you achieve that, what you most want will automatically be there, and what you most dislike will disappear. 7. Shed the burden of judgment you will feel much lighter. Judgment imposes right and wrong on situations that just are. Everything can be understood and forgiven, but when you judge, you cut off understanding and shut down the process of learning to love. In judging others, you reflect your lack of self acceptance. Remember that every person you forgive adds to your self-love. 8. Don't contaminate your body with toxins, either food, drink, or toxic emotions. Your body is more than a life-support system. It is the vehicle that will carry you on the journey of your evolution. The health of every cell directly contributes to your state of well-being, because every cell is a point of awareness within the field of awareness that is you. 9. Replace fear-motivated behavior with love-motivated behavior. Fear is the product of memory, which dwells in the past. Remembering what hurt us before, we direct our energies toward making certain that an old hurt will not repeat itself. But trying to impose the past on the present will never wipe out the threat of being hurt. That happens only when you find the security of your own being, which is love. Motivate by the truth inside you, you can face any threat because your inner strength is invulnerable to fear. 10. Understand that the physical world is just a mirror of a deeper intelligence. Intelligence is the invisible organizer of all matter and energy, and since a portion of this intelligence resides in you, you share in the organizing power of the cosmos. Because you are inseparably linked to everything, you cannot afford to foul the planet's air and water. But at a deeper level, you cannot afford to live with a toxic mind, because every thought makes an impression on the whole field of intelligence. Living in balance and purity is the highest good for you and the Earth. Visit Dr. Deepak Chopra's website for more body, mind, and spirit information. Click here http://www.chopra.com/ ********** ONE by -- Gkar (J. Michael Straczynski) "The universe speaks in many languages, but only one voice. The language is not Narn, or human, or Centauri, or Gaen, or Menbari. It speaks in the language of truth, it speaks in the language of trust. It speaks in the language of strength, and the language of compassion. It is the language of the heart, and the language of the soul. But always, it is the same voice. ********** "It is the voice of our ancestors speaking through us, And the voice of our inheritors waiting to be born. It is the small still voice that says: We are one. No matter the blood, no matter the skin, no matter the world, no matter the star, We are one. No matter the pain, no matter the darkness, no matter the loss, no matter the fear, We are one. ********** "Here gathered together in common cause, We agree to recognize this singular truth and this singular rule: That we must be kind to one another. Because each voice enriches us and ennobles us, and each voice lost diminishes us. We are the voice of the universe, the soul of creation, ********** The fire that will light the way to a better future. We are one. We are one." ********** PSYCHIATRIC HOTLINE Hello, welcome to the Psychiatric Hotline: If you are obsessive-compulsive, please press 1 repeatedly, If you are codependent, please ask someone to press 2; If you have multiple personalities, please press 3,4,5, and 6; If you are paranoid-delusional, we know who you are and what you want. Just stay on the line until we can trace the call; If you are schizophrenic, listen carefully and a little voice will tell you which number to press; If you are manic-depressive, it doesn't matter which number you press. No one will answer. ********** THOUGHT FOR THE DAY by Eman8tions Some people are so sensitive. If there is a way to take something the wrong way, they do! Some people, indeed! I'm like that too. The trouble is it's much too easy. Almost anything anyone says can be misunderstood if we have the will. William Blake once said that there was no idea so right that there was nothing wrong about it, and nothing so wrong that there wasn't something right about it. So we always have the opportunity to magnify fractions, attempt proofs of the ideas we are stuck in. If you hang on to paranoia you can make that work, bend words and meanings, find the attack in anything. But it can go the other way too. There's love in everything too. Magnify those fractions. ********** SHAKE IT OFF AND STEP UP A parable is told of a farmer who owned an old mule. The mule fell into the farmer's well. The farmer heard the mule 'braying' -- or -- whatever mules do when they fall into wells. After carefully assessing the situation, the farmer sympathized with the mule, but decided that neither the mule nor the well was worth the trouble of saving. Instead, he called his neighbors together and told them what had happened...and enlisted them to help haul dirt to bury the old mule in the well and put him out of his misery. Initially, the old mule was hysterical! But as the farmer and his neighbors continued shoveling and the dirt hit his back...a thought struck him. It suddenly dawned on him that every time a shovel load of dirt landed on his back...HE SHOULD SHAKE IT OFF AND STEP UP! This he did, blow after blow. "Shake it off and step up...shake it off and step up...shake it off and step up!" he repeated to encourage himself. No matter how painful the blows, or distressing the situation seemed the old mule fought "panic" and just kept right on SHAKING IT OFF AND STEPPING UP! You're right! It wasn't long before the old mule, battered and exhausted, STEPPED TRIUMPHANTLY OVER THE WALL OF THAT WELL! What seemed like it would bury him, actually blessed him...all because of the manner in which he handled his adversity. THAT'S LIFE! If we face our problems and respond to them positively, and refuse to give in to panic, bitterness, or self-pity...THE ADVERSITIES THAT COME ALONG TO BURY US USUALLY HAVE WITHIN THEM THE POTENTIAL TO BENEFIT AND BLESS US! Remember that FORGIVENESS-FAITH-PRAYER- PRAISE and HOPE...all are excellent ways to "SHAKE IT OFF AND STEP UP" out of the wells in which we find ourselves! ********** OUT OF THE MOUTHS OF BABES Dear God, Did you mean for the giraffe to look like that or was it an accident? Norma >>> Dear God, Instead of letting people die and having to make new ones, why don't You just keep the ones you have now? Jane >>> Dear God, Who draws the lines around the countries? Nan >>> Dear God, I went to this wedding and they kissed right in church. Is that okay? Neil >>> Dear God, Thank you for my baby brother, but what I prayed for was a puppy. Joyce >>> Dear God, It rained for our whole vacation and is my father mad! He said some things about you that people are not supposed to say, but I hope you will not hurt him anyway. Your friend (but I am not going to tell you who I am) >>> Dear God, Please send me a pony. I never asked for anything before. You can look it up. Bruce >>> Dear God, If we come back as something, please don't let me be Jennifer Horton, because I hate her. Denise >>> Dear God, I want to be just like my daddy when I get big, but not with so much hair all over. Sam >>> Dear God, I think about you sometimes, even when I'm not praying Elliot >>> Dear God I bet it is very hard for you to love all the people in the world. There are only four people in our family and I can never do it. Nan >>> Dear God, Of all the people who worked for you, I like Noah and David the best. Rob >>> Dear God, My brothers told me about being born, but it doesn't sound right. They are just kidding, aren't they? Marsha >>> Dear God, If you watch me in church Sunday, I'll show you my new shoes. Mickey >>> Dear God, We read Thomas Edison made light. But in Sunday school, we learned that you did it. So I bet he stole your idea. Sincerely, Donna >>> Dear God, I do not think anybody could be a better God. Well, I just want you to know that I am not just saying this because you are God already. Charles >>> Dear God, I didn't think orange went with purple until I saw the sunset you made on Tuesday. That was cool! Eugene >>> Dear God, Maybe Cain and Abel would not kill each other so much if they had their own rooms. It works with my brother. Larry ********** THOUGHT FOR TOMORROW by Eman8tions Gentle words, patient listening, paying attention, noticing, these make everything so much easier. You may clip off a few seconds of any transaction by ignoring the graces. But the price to be paid for that is incalculable. When clerks are people, when we yield to strangers in a doorway, the recognition smiles feed us, the glances of gratitude. The pizza delivery guy is glad to know you are very hungry and glad to see Him (even if he is a little shy and doesn't look up). We are in the divine ocean and we wave to each other as our little islands float by, maybe one coconut palm in the middle. I am so grateful to have finally learned that seconds don't matter. I don't live in the emergency room. What matters is the joy of sharing the human experience. It's divine. So good to see you. Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-14/3396 From: Diane Linen Subject: Prayers From Kids Prayers from kids One Sunday in a Midwest city a young child was "acting up" during the morning worship hour. The parents did their best to maintain some sense of order in the pew but were losing the battle. Finally the father picked the little fellow up and walked sternly up the aisle on his way out. Just before reaching the safety of the foyer the little one called loudly to the congregation, "Pray for me! Pray for me!" *************** A daddy was listening to his child say his prayer "Dear Harold". At this, dad interrupted and said, "Wait a minute -how come you called God 'Harold'"? The little boy looked up and said, "That's what they call Him in church. You know the prayer we say, "Our Father, who art in Heaven, Harold be Thy Name." *************** And this particular four-year-old prayed: "And forgive us our trash baskets as we forgive those who put trash in our baskets." *************** During the minister's prayer one Sunday, there was a loud whistle from one of the back pews. Gary's mother was horrified. She pinched him into silence, and after church asked: "Gary, whatever made you do such a thing?" Gary answered soberly: "I asked God to teach me to whistle... and He just then did!" *************** One night Mike's parents overheard this prayer: "Now I lay me down to rest, and hope to pass tomorrow's test, If I should die before I wake, that's one less test I have to take." *************** A five-year-old said grace at family dinner one night. "Dear God, thank you for these pancakes..." When he concluded, his parents asked him why he thanked God for pancakes when they were having chicken. He smiled and said, "I thought I'd see if He was paying attention tonight." **************** A little boy's prayer: "Dear God, please take care of my daddy and my mommy and my sister and my brother and my doggy and me. Oh, please take care of yourself, God. If anything happens to you, we're gonna be in a big mess." **************** A rabbi said to a precocious six-year-old boy: "So your mother says your prayers for you each night Very commendable. What does she say?" The little boy replied, "Thank God he's in bed!". **************** A woman invited some people to dinner. At the table, she turned to her six- year-old daughter and said, "Would you like to say the blessing?" "I wouldn't know what to say," the little girl replied. "Just say what you hear Mommy say," the mother said. The little girl bowed her head and said, "Dear Lord, why on earth did I invite all these people to dinner?" **************** Johnny had been misbehaving and was sent to his room. After a while he emerged and informed his mother that he had thought it over and then said a prayer. "Fine", said the pleased mother. "If you ask God to help you not misbehave, He will help you." "Oh, I didn't ask Him to help me not misbehave," said Johnny. "I asked Him to help you put up with me." Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-14/3397 From: Brian Weis Subject: On The Initiate's Path JJ writes: "Earlier we talked about the Beast of unearned authority that seeks control over all peoples. Challenging the authorities of the Beast and trusting in the inner God requires a great expansion of the ring-pass-not. This is what makes the power of the Beast so great. It just does not enter into the consciousness of those under its control that it is even within their power to step out of the realm of control of outward authorities." I'm still not completely on top of this "ring-pass-not" thing, but I do understand the basic idea that one requires a soul-expansion -- perhaps an elevation of the Higher Self -- in order to make that leap within (to the Inner God) and challenge the Beast. That courage, that energy, can only come from within. You can't get that from someone else. You might be able to get a boost or a nudge in the right direction. But ultimately, only you can choose to go down the path. JJ then further comments: "When one finally does expand the ring-pass-not beyond the power of the Beast he then obtains the power to become an initiate. Question: What does it mean to become an initiate?" Hmmmm. By definition, an initiate would be "one who is initiated". So the question here might well be: When one finally expands...beyond the power of the Beast, she may then receive initiation. Into what may she be initiated? We know that she will not be initiated into some regimented tradition of this world, because they are all under the sway of the Beast. So she must be on her own path. A path of becoming. Hmmmm....I will say that when one becomes an initiate, she commits herself to begin the process of awakening (I am just a tad influenced because I am listening to the soundtrack to "The Commitments"). ~B. Post No. keys-l: /1999-03-14/3398 From: J J Dewey Subject: To Initiate I'll give a few more thoughts on the ring-pass-not. The ring-pass-not does not apply to humans only but all forms of life from the atomic to the Solar and beyond. That which lies beyond our ring-pass-not is a freedom or a door to greater freedom that is beyond the ability of our consciousness and intelligence to grasp and incorporate into our reality. This is perhaps easier to understand if we examine the animal kingdom below us. There are freedoms that are beyond their ring of consciousness that seem ridiculously simple to us. Take a dog, for instance. Tie him up to a post on a long leash and in a short while he will run around the post wrapping the leash around it as he goes. Then after the leash is entirely wrapped and there are only inches left the dog will continue forward almost choking himself. Even though it seems simple to us it is beyond his consciousness to go backwards instead of forwards and unwind the leash so he has greater freedom. The ring-pass-not in an animal prevents him from considering going backward to greater freedom. A dog may go through a door if all he has to do is push ahead, but it is beyond his consciousness to consider turning a door handle unless he has been extensively trained by a human. On the other hand, a chicken has a lower ring-pass-not than a dog. The dog has a sense of loyalty to a human owner, but this concept is beyond the ring-pass-not of the fowl. It seems to the chicken that loyalty to humans would bring less freedom not more, but the dog realizes that loyalty to the human will somehow lead to greater freedom and expression. To the dog the humans are Gods to be loved, but to the chicken we are overlords to be feared. Now to the lives higher than human there are many freedoms that are just beyond our ring- pass-not that seems very simple to them. Some of these are: The power to live without food and water for extended periods of time. The power to shift in and out of this world and the next. The power to become invisible. The power to perform miraculous healings The power to manifest a body at will through the power of Decision- Attention -Consciousness. The power of telepathy. The power of omnipresence The access to all knowledge And many others. Becoming an initiate is an important series of steps in expanding the ring-pass-not. Yesterday we asked what an initiate was. Marilyn came the closest by stating: "To me, becoming an initiate means to be at the beginning of something new. Call it awakening, if you choose." This statement is on the right track, but let me add an additional hint. To discover the true meaning of becoming an initiate we must ask the question - What does it mean to initiate a thing? The power of initiation is neither good nor evil but is a little like money and can be used for either. Hitler was an initiate and so was Abraham Lincoln. How did these two men use the power of initiation, one for evil and the other for good? JJ