1998 - WEEK 45

Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-2/36
From: Rick Audette
Subject: Re: Song of 144,000
James,
   I had that same thought this morning. Didn't mention it, 'cause I thought it would be hard to find 
a time all would be comfortable with. Perhaps we could come to see that the song is perpetually 
being sung and that when we sing it we add power to it. It could be helpful if we cultivate a habit 
of reminding each other to sing. I, for one, would never mind being reminded (thanks Belle)
One,
Rick
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-2/37
From: Rick Audette
Subject: Re: Elections
   I too have a hard time voting. But, I have begun to see that a new way is growing that allows us 
to be heard, regardless of who is in office. I've been seeing more and more international petitions 
getting circulated on the internet. It is now possible for millions of people to join together in letting 
the powers that be know how they feel. No politician can ignore the potential loss of support of 
millions in a single stroke. This computer thing has allowed mankind many opportunities to create 
Oneness. It seems to be the way of the future for deciding who is in power. there's more than one 
way to vote, now.
One,
Rick
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-2/38
From: J J Dewey
Subject: VOTING
   Voting is important my friends, even if it is for the lesser of two evils. If we keep making the right 
choice someday we will have the choice between two good candidates all around.
   I felt impressed to write a short note of encouragement. There is a plan by the Brotherhood to 
introduce changes in our system to give the people more power and bring us closer to a true 
Democracy yet retain the benefits of a Republic. It does not involve creating a new party but 
working through the two main parties we already have. It is premature to present the idea now 
because we have very little power to act at the present. But the time will come that I or another 
disciple will initiate creative change and the people will be truly represented as never before.
   Unfortunately, there are those even in this country who would like to move toward more central 
control and even a dictatorship. Some people even talk about a benevolent dictatorship, but there 
is no such thing. The lights must always be vigilant toward the cause of freedom.
 
List Archive keys-l: /1998-11-2/39
From: "d.linen"
Subject: Re: VOTING
   Yes, I used to believe that my vote counted and always voted. This is the first time that I won't 
be voting. It was too late to get my voter registration after I had read in the Book about how 
important it is to vote. I had given up thinking...."what's the use?" so I didn't register this time.
Diane
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-2/40
From: TeKnoBabL
Subject: Hello.
   It's good to see a growing number of people taking an interest in J.J.'s books. I believe his work 
will have major positive ramifications the world over.
   If you loved The Immortal books and want to spread the word, consider writing a review at 
Amazon.com. Just type in Joseph J. Dewey in the Search field, click GO, and the rest will tell how 
to proceed. Currently at Amazon.com the sales rating for The Immortal books I & II is . Let's see if 
we can help make it number one.
   Hi, my name is Rob Brennan. I'm listed as Terrance but I've been brought up being called by 
my middle name, and so, prefer it over Terrance or Terry.
Thanks.
   I've been a student of his teachings since 1994 and would like to take this opportunity to share 
how I've come to know him and what he means to me.
   In winter of 1994, among increasing dead-ends and frustrations, I turned my search for higher 
truth away from books and more towards the vast ocean of info in cyberspace. I started throwing 
out questions and testing peoples' responses--the content of which most people take for granted 
or use lots of buzz words for.
   There were some people who gave responses that read, "Here's what I think but I'm not really 
sure," and then there were some that acted like they were masters yet their answers didn't sit 
right w/ me somehow or they were the same info from books recycled and repackaged.
   But then a most curious answer came and was signed simply, "Your brother, Joseph." His 
answer seemed to "make sense" within me somehow. It was so straight forward, and at the same 
time elicited many begging questions (which were soon forthcoming). It was written with authority-
-as though he held the highest degree on the subject and knew firsthand about what he was 
writing.
   His responses were unlike anything I've read or heard from anywhere, and they felt good to 
think about. My mind was on fire!
   Joe is the hardest worker I know, too. He runs his own business that keeps him busy for up to 
16 hours or more per day. Yet he manages to balance work and marriage AND finds time to write 
the most thought-provoking material I've ever read. The few truths most of us can sense only 
briefly, he is able to label, define, and expound on in great detail.
   He's advanced on personal fronts as well. Any question, problem, or concern I've ever shared 
with him has always been met with care, understanding, thoughtfulness, and wisdom. I can't think 
of a single person I aspire to be like more than he.
   I think that's about it in a nutshell.
   I'll do my best to answer any questions as I read them. I remember someone mentioning 
something about a FAQ. Perhaps this is my opportunity to give a little after receiving so much?
   I trust Joe will jump in and correct me when I screw up what I learned from him. But I'll try to 
keep things as straight as possible. My gratitude goes out to Rick Audette for creating this mailing 
list. What a cool idea!
   One more thing. I will not be revealing ANY keys beyond what's already been revealed through 
the Immortal series. Sorry. But I know the people here wouldn't want me to spoil the rest of the 
books anyway, right? :-)
Rob
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-2/41
From: TeKnoBabL
Subject: Re: Voting
   Why not vote libertarian? They sound like they're pulling for more freedom. Here's a link to the 
homepage of a potential libertarian presidential candidate for the year 2000.
http://harrybrown2000.org
Rob
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-2/42
From: Isabelle
Subject: Re: VOTING
   "Yes, I used to believe that my vote counted and always voted. This is the first time that I won't 
be voting. It was too late to get my voter registration after I had read in the Book about how 
important it is to vote. I had given up thinking...."what's the use?" so I didn't register this time.  
Diane"
Diane,
   Unless you've moved you should still be registered to vote if you ever were. I called to see if my 
Mom was still registered and even though it's been over ten years since she voted, she's still on 
the list.
   Me on the other hand....... When I came to this backward state to look after my mother I got a 
driver's license and there was a box at the bottom which if ticked was supposed to register you to 
vote... That was in February. Last week when I was checking on Mom's registration, I asked to
confirm mine and was told I wasn't registered.. I went through the whole story with them and they 
said... "Oh, that doesn't always work." Well, I felt that I should be allowed to register then because 
it wasn't my fault that I hadn't been registered.. No deal... I could register, but not vote in this 
election..
   So at a least we will have one vote here as I asked for an absentee ballot for Mom.
   Grrrrrrr....
   I am, however, encouraging others to vote.
Belle
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-2/43
From: "d.linen"
Subject: Re: VOTING
Hi Belle,
   I did move and wasn't thinking of voting at the time. I heard on tv when the deadline was for 
registering and I missed it.
   As I said, I had given up on the process since I couldn't see that my vote really made a 
difference when nothing or no one I voted for passed or won. I have this negative feeling that the 
early voting process here is just a way to see how the votes are going so the they can see how
many they need to pass bond elections etc..
Diane
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-2/44
From: Isabelle
Subject: Re: Hello.
   "It's good to see a growing number of people taking an interest in J.J.'s books. I believe his 
work will have major positive ramifications the world over."
   "If you loved The Immortal books and want to spread the word, consider writing a review at 
Amazon.com. Just type in Joseph J. Dewey in the Search field, click GO, and the rest will tell how 
to proceed. Currently at Amazon.com the sales rating for The Immortal books I & II is. Let's see if 
we can help make it number one."
   "Hi, my name is Rob Brennan. I'm listed as Terrance but I've been brought up being called by 
my middle name, and so, prefer it over Terrance or Terry. Thanks."
   Thanks for the suggestion, Rob, and welcome to the list! I have just finished doing my review 
for Amazon and it was so easy!! I'm really looking forward to your input here..
Below is the review I submitted..
Grins,
Belle
True love, spiritual quest, great adventure and more!
   After Chapter One of JJ Dewey's, The Immortal, was sent to me online, I was hooked..... 
Romance which could define true love once and for all sets the background for a great spiritual 
adventure which left me more hopeful for the future than anything I've read. Through the 
immortal, John the Apostle, one is led to search for The Keys of Knowledge in such a way that 
you feel your mind stretched and exercised the way a good yoga session works the body. My 
mind was constantly at work comparing these teachings to my own life story; answering 
questions, putting people and experiences in a new perspective and opening my heart in a new 
way. Not since Jane Roberts reminded me through Seth Speaks how we truly create our own 
realities have I had such knowledge given me through a book. This was timely reminder of
that truth.
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-2/45
From: Rick Audette
Subject: Re: Hello.
   Rob said, "I'll do my best to answer any questions as I read them. I remember someone 
mentioning something about a FAQ. Perhaps this is my opportunity to give a little after receiving 
so much?"
Rob,
   The other day, I said that some of us would be watching for the FAQ's, so we could field them 
and save JJ the time. At the time, I did not know who would be helping with this, but Spirit said 
just say it and those on the list would fill in the details. Well, I knocked and the door was opened. 
Why am I not surprised?
   Welcome home Rob.
One,
Rick
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-2/46
From: Isabelle
Subject: Re: Song of 144,000
   "Your posting of the song has just gave me an idea. As I was reading it a thought of a daily, 
time specified reading by everyone on the list came to my mind. Anyone game? Any thoughts on 
specific times? What say you all?
"TwinStorms
"AKA
"James Bryan"
Hi James,
If someone can come up with a good time on a regular basis, I'm into it. My time is pretty 
flexible at the moment.. I am in CST time zone.
Otherwise, the full moon is coming up Tuesday night at 9:18 pm PST,10:18 pm MT,11:18 
pm CST and 12:18 am Wednesday EST. That would be a powerful time. I'll be doing it then.
Belle
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-2/47
From: TeKnoBabL
Subject: Rick Audette: Thanks for the warm welcome :-)
"I'm figuring out a way to go about doing the faq. What I've come up w/ so far is I could cut and 
paste the answers to all the questions I've asked Joseph since I've known him. The two time 
munchers would be the actual cutting and pasting, and the rearranging of terms in alphabetical 
order. One last thing I'm concerned about is how to distribute the faq w/ the security that it won't
be altered by some hacker. I'm open to suggestions." Rob
"Rob, The other day, I said that some of us would be watching for the FAQ's, so we could field 
them and save JJ the time. At the time, I did not know who would be helping with this, but Spirit 
said just say it and those on the list would fill in the details. Well, I knocked and the door was 
opened. Why am I not surprised? Welcome home Rob. One,Rick
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-2/48
From: Rick Audette
Subject: FAQ's
Hi Rob,
Gee, I wasn't thinking that far ahead. I was thinking that I would create a mail folder that I 
could drag and drop posts from JJ to. Then to make it easier to find letters, make a text or Excell 
file to log which Q&A's go with which date. An updated printout of the log could be kept handy so 
that when one spots a familiar question, you could go right to the post and cut and paste the 
answer. The idea of a ready made FAQ document, containing all the questions that someone 
might ask, could end up being a book in itself. It could also, in ways, retard soul growth. In my life, 
I have always found the answers come easy. It's knowing what questions to ask that stimulates 
my soul to work harder at seeking. If someone gives me Q&As before I'm ready to ask the 
question, it tends to go unheard. If I spend years trying to formulate the question, in my mind, and 
then ask it, it is like finding that lost sheep (or coin). It is of much greater value. I, for one, was 
thinking I'd just keep my eyes open. If Little Bo Peep comes round here looking for sheep, I'll 
point them out to her. I think she will be much happier finding that sheep than knowing, say, how 
to find the road to Shamballa. Maybe next time I see her, she will be looking for that. But, you 
may see something I don't. If you have the energy and skill to produce a nice FAQ sheet, it could 
be very useful and efficient for those who have already asked the questions to have. Then any of 
us could easily point the way, when asked to do so.
I'm open to more ideas on the subject. God bless you and more power to you, if you choose 
to do this project. I, for one would love to have a copy when it's done. I've asked my share of 
question, over the last 30 years, so I'm not afraid of being slowed down by seeing it. Let the Holy 
Spirit be your guide, while you work and I'm sure it will be an excellent document.
Thanks for letting me add my 2 cents.
One,
Rick
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-2/49
From: "James Bryan"
Subject: Re: Song of 144,000
"Otherwise, the full moon is coming up Tuesday night at 9:18 pm PST,10:18 pm MT,11:18 
pm CST and 12:18 am Wednesday EST. That would be a powerful time. I'll be doing it then. 
Belle"
Hello Belle,
I believe I shall join you tonight. I am in the EST time zone.
What a great time for a sing along.
Thanks for posting the times.
James
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-2/50
From: Isabelle
Subject: FAQ
"I'm figuring out a way to go about doing the faq. What I've come up w/ so far is I could cut 
and paste the answers to all the questions I've asked Joseph since I've known him. The two time 
munchers would be the actual cutting and pasting, and the rearranging of terms in alphabetical 
order. One last thing I'm concerned about is how to distribute the faq w/ the security that it won't 
be altered by some hacker. I'm open to suggestions. Rob"
Rob,
This sounds wonderful to me. If you are willing to do the work, I am sure many will benefit 
from your efforts and should save Joseph time as well..
Anxiously awaiting,
Belle
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-2/51
From: "d.linen"
Subject: Voting results before the actual vote
DRUDGE REPORT
MON NOV 02, 1998 04:52:08 UTC
ABCNEWS.COM ALREADY COUNTING VOTES!
   According to ABC NEWS' website, Davis is the new governor of California with 2,136,058 [49%] 
over Lungren 1,982,820 [46%]! Sen. Boxer has received 2,155,456 [50%] over Matt Fong's 
1,916,746 [45%] and Boxer has been elected to another term in the U.S. Senate Fitzgerald has 
easily won over Moseley-Braun in Illinois! [57%/42%]! And Al D'Amato has beat Schumer in New 
York City! 1,765,114 50%/1,475,697 42%!
   And ABC is reporting all of this -- and hundreds of other returns -- EVEN BEFORE THE FIRST 
VOTE HAS BEEN TAKEN!
   In what will clearly go down as the one of the biggest Internet mistakes of all time -- ABC NEWS 
has suddenly started to report Election Day results -- before Election Day.
   A spokesman for ABC NEWS was not immediately available for comment.
   The DRUDGE REPORT found the Election '98 results at:
http://www.abcnews.com/sections/us/elections98/results/senate.html
http://www.abcnews.com/sections/us/elections98/results/governors.html
http://www.abcnews.com/sections/us/elections98/results/issues.html
   The ABC numbers are being mirrored at:
http://www.drudgereport.com/abc1.htm
http://www.drudgereport.com/abc2.htm
http://www.drudgereport.com/abc3.htm
   "I can't believe that ABC has done this!" declared a horrified senior staffer in Matt Fong's senate 
campaign office late Monday night.
   "Do they really hate republicans that much that they would fake the results and put them on 
their website! They should be sued by everyone they already show losing!"
   The charges are explosive!
   It is not clear what ABC NEWS hoped to achieve by releasing "Election Results" on the Internet 
a day before the election.
   One ABC NEWS source in Washington, who demanded anonymity, was completely floored 
when showed the website returns:
   "This looks very serious. I'm calling [ABC NEWS President David] Westin."
Developing...
X X X X X
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-3/52
From: TeKnoBabL
Subject: Re: FAQ contents
   Rick, You wrote: "I was thinking that I would create a mail folder that I could drag and drop 
posts from JJ to. Then to make it easier to find letters, make a text or Excel file to log which 
Q&A's go with which date. An updated printout of the log could be kept handy so that when one 
spots a familiar question, you could go right to the post and cut and paste the answer."
   What I like about your idea is that a person could search for their specific question, and then 
quickly be directed to where it could be found. Am I understanding your design correctly?
   I was thinking more along the lines of a lexicon. However, with my design, a person would have 
to wade through large amounts of data before finding what they want. Or they may never find the 
answer and it may still be in there somewhere.
   Your design would allow a person to find what they're looking for more quickly. But it may be a 
long wait to collect enough posts from JJ to finally create a basic FAQ. Whereas I have many 
answers/definitions right now on disk. If we combined our designs an easy-to-use FAQ could be 
developed more quickly. Then the people reading this mailing list would all be speaking the same 
"language," so to speak. What do you think about this?
   "The idea of a ready made FAQ document, containing all the questions that someone might 
ask, could end up being a book in itself."
   On the other hand, most of our (JJ's and mine) communications pertained only to pushing my 
understanding of the keys. I may have a lot less information that can be generally distributed than 
I previously thought. I need to review my emails for content. Lastly, my design is contingent on if I 
have JJ's permission to use the info from his emails for this purpose. Who knows, he may have 
something different in mind.
   "I think she will be much happier finding that sheep than knowing, say, how to find the road to 
Shamballa." I agree. Sometimes giving a person to much info is worse than not enough. I didn't 
mean to give the impression that I wanted to write the secrets of the masters in plain book form. (I 
don't know any anyway.) I meant more like a definition sheet. Then we'd all be able to 
communicate more effectively because we'd all be using the same language. For clarification 
purposes only."
   I appreciate your input and support.
Rob
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-3/53
From: TeKnoBabL
Subject: To Belle: Re: Review/FAQ
   I like your review a lot. I think Joe will too. If I'd never read the Immortal, your review would 
make me want to. I wish I could change mine. I must have been tired or something when I wrote 
it. Oh well.
   Assuming I get JJ's permission to use the contents of his emails, I'm hoping the FAQ will benefit 
a lot of people who are like me--just trying to get a better understanding of the big picture, and 
where I belong in it.
Rob
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-3/54
From: Rick Audette
Subject: Re: FAQ contents
Rob,
   Well I'm thinking that as questions come up, if they are something that has been talked about 
here or something JJ has made a public statement about, then we should inform the person of 
what has been said. If it's a new question or something we each have to solve for ourselves, than 
we could all talk among ourselves, the way JJ and Wayne did in the book. I really don't know how 
we should handle FAQ's yet. I'm sure we'll all come up with something good, if we all put our 
minds to it. Let's see what kind of input everybody else has. We now have 45 on the list. I'd like to 
see something done differently on our list. The majority has so far been silent. Come on guys, tell 
us who you are and share your thoughts. Have trust in your fellow members. I think we all want to 
be as loving to each other as possible and you shouldn't worry about saying something or asking 
questions. Think about what it means to be ONE. The Kingdom of God and our world will be 
united sooner if we all learn to pull together. Some of us talk with each other every day and are 
starting to feel like a family. I read all the bio and see that we have many wonderful people 
dedicated to finding truth. I am so pleased to be with this group. Won't you all come out from 
hiding so we can know, and thereby love you more. Wow, 3:30 a.m. Gotta get to bed. See you all 
tomorrow.
Oneness, 
Rick
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-3/55
From: Rick Audette
Subject: vote
   A little something I got in my mail this morning
From: "Censure and Move On"
<announce-unsubscribe-271932@list.moveon.org>
To: rea1@gte.net
   Today is Election Day. VOTE! And pass this e-mail on to at least 10 people right now telling 
THEM to vote! If you DO pass this on, Bill Gates will not send you to Disneyland, you will not see 
virgins having sex live on the Internet, you will not get life advice from Kurt Vonnegut, you will not 
see a frighteningly life-like dancing baby, Hank the Angry Drunken Dwarf will not win a beauty 
contest, an ill child will not be miraculously cured, Mrs. Fields won't sell you a $200 cookie recipe, 
your computer will not be protected from the all-powerful Good Times virus, and you will not wake 
up 3 days later in a motel bathtub full of ice... missing a kidney.
   BUT YOU WILL help send a message to pro-impeachment, investigation-addicted, scandal-
blinded politicos in Washington that it is time to MOVE ON with the business of the nation. And, 
you might even help send some of them packing for home.
   And what will happen to you if you DON'T vote, and you DON'T pass this on?
   Absolutely nothing. Which is precisely what will happen with the real, pressing issues facing our 
country -- absolutely nothing
 
List Archive keys-l: /1998-11-3/56
From: Isabelle
Subject: Channeled material
Hi everyone,
   As you can tell by now, I'm not going to be one of the shy ones around here..:-)
I have a question about" channeled" information.. On page 233, John says to Joseph, "Have you 
heard the statement we make our own reality?" And Joseph replies, "Yes I believe Jane Roberts 
coined that phrase." (Actually, the phrase, "You 'Create' your own reality." sticks in my mind.)
   Well, for over 20 years that very statement has guided me along my path and I am very grateful 
for the Seth Speaks book from which it came. (The story of how I came to read that book is a little 
strange if anyone is interested in hearing it..)
   For quite some time I have known Rick through another list and we have discussed whether 
"channeled" material was a good thing or not. Of course I took the side that if something felt right, 
why not.. Rick has always been very skeptical..
   So, since JJ brought the subject up through The Immortal, I would like to know how he and 
others feel about "channeled" material. Was this indeed a part of a real discussion with John, JJ?
Just wondering,
Belle
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-3/57
From: "James Bryan"
Subject: Re: Decision Discussion
Greetings to all,
   I am curious if it would be okay with everyone if we could start a discussion on the 1st key 
about who and what we are?
   Or would we be spoiling it for those who have not read the 2nd book yet?
   I have some thoughts and questions on this and hope to be able to get some input from 
everyone on the list.
   Let me know if you think this would be appropriate.
Namaste
James Bryan
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-3/58
From: LeLona Hodges
Subject: Re: Decision Discussion
   I wish someone would discuss the subject. That will determine whether I'll buy either book.
Thanks,
LeLona
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-4/59
From: stress
Subject: Re: Decision Discussion
Hiya...
   "Greetings to all, I am curious if it would be okay with everyone if we could start a discussion on 
the 1st key about who and what we are? Or would we be spoiling it for those who have not read 
the 2nd book yet?"
   I'm one of those people... And I can't see myself actually reading the second book for quite a 
while yet (Mainly because I don't have the income to afford it :).... Nah, go right ahead...
My infinite love to you
I AM
ETERNALLY WITH YOU IN THE *LIGHT*
Azarus Ankh'aa / Joel Cocks
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-3/60
From: Isabelle
Subject: http://www.freeread.com/
   "Hello everyone. I joined this list when it was an infant and even tho I haven't read the book yet 
I'm curious as to what it's about, and have been waiting (impatiently) for the discussion to get 
started. I haven't even read the first book yet, much less the 2nd one, and if I remember correctly, 
the author is one of the list members?"
   "I wish someone would discuss the subject. That will determine whether I'll buy either book. 
Thanks, LeLona"
Hi LeLona,
   I don't see how you would gain much in the discussion without reading at least Book One. The 
whole of Book One is available to read for free at http://www.freeread.com/.
   I was introduced to the book when John Winston kindly posted several of the beginning 
chapters to another list I am on.. I found this got me "hooked" and then read the rest of Book One 
online and ordered the hard copy immediately thereafter from JJ..
   So in the spirit of sharing information as John Winston has done, my next post will be Chapter 
One from Book one..
   If I were you I would jump straight to ordering the book.. I sent a check to:
Great AD-Ventures
P.O. Box 8011
Boise, Idaho
USA
83707
   In the U.S. it is $19.95 each which includes shipping and handling.. Add $5 for foreign orders 
and be sure it is in U.S. funds. (Bank check, money order, etc.) Or you can go to the website and 
see how to do the credit card thingy.. My book arrived within days of ordering it.
Happy reading,
Belle
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-3/61
From: Isabelle
Subject: The Immortal Part 1a
   This information is also in a web site called;
http://www.freeread.com/
   This first part talks about graphology, Handwriting Analysis.
Subject: Chapter 1
FORWARD
   "Peter seeing him (John) saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do? Jesus saith unto 
him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?
Follow thou me.
   "Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus 
said not unto him, He shall not die; but, if I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?" John 
21:21-23
   John, the Beloved, the Revelator, an Apostle of Jesus, perhaps the most mysterious man in 
history, comes alive in this book. Legend has it that John never died and still roams the earth as a 
teacher. The contents of this first book and additional books about The Immortal may or may not 
be true. It is up to the reader to decide. But whatever the opinion rendered, the story and 
teachings herein are worthy of serious consideration.
THE IMMORTAL
BOOK I
By
J. J. Dewey
CHAPTER ONE
Elizabeth
   I have always wanted to be a writer, but never seemed to find the time to carry out my dream. 
Ironically, this time in my life is the most difficult of all to begin such a project as this, but it is 
something I must do. I have a story to tell that is difficult to believe so I am writing it as fiction. It is 
too unbelievable to present as a true story. Nevertheless, I do maintain that the principles taught 
herein are true and that many readers will have this verified by their hearts and souls.
   I'd like to start with John, but that probably wouldn't work. I must tell you about Elizabeth and 
something about myself before you can begin to understand.
   There's not a lot to tell about me. I am average or below average in a number of ways. If there 
is anything out of the ordinary about me it's probably the fact that I am quite curious in nature. I 
have thought quite a bit about why things are the way they are. I've always asked myself a lot of 
unanswerable questions, like: Who or what is God? Is there life after death? What will it be like?
   What is the purpose of life? Questions - that seem to have no answers. I met Elizabeth about 
ten years ago. I was 43 years old and Elizabeth was several years younger. I was just getting my 
feet wet in real estate after failing in several business ventures. Both Elizabeth and I had been 
previously married. But since we got along great together after experiencing difficult relationships 
with others we both felt like we had finally mastered the art of marriage to the extent we half-
heartedly considered giving seminars on the subject.
   Leaving my children with my previous wife was one of the most difficult decisions of my life, but 
the situation was not one of those win-win possibilities. It was lose-lose. The fact that I lost so 
much in my relationship with my children and they lost in their relationship with me made it all the 
more important to me that my relationship with Elizabeth would somehow be worth the great 
sacrifice.
   Let's move on here. I know a lot of you have gone through difficult marriages and wish you 
could have your life with your children to live over again. But there is something else I also know. 
I know that all of you have the desire within your hearts to meet the love of your life and to fall in 
love and stay in love. I know that few of you have found the quality of love you are looking for.
   Well, this is one area where my life was not exactly average. I found the love of my life. I found 
even more than I was looking for. I found Elizabeth.
   After my divorce I starting teaching several classes in the local community adult education 
programs. It had long been a hobby of mine to study graphology, or how character is revealed 
through handwriting.
   Then, after years of dabbling, I became pretty good at it so I volunteered my services.
I thank God every day that I studied handwriting analysis because without it I may not have 
recognized Elizabeth.
   At the end of my first class I had everyone in the class hand in samples of his or her 
handwriting. Then I proceeded to demonstrate that I was truly accurate by analyzing each of 
them. Now, this has nothing to do with psychic powers.
   Instead, it is an analytical way of discerning character. There were about twenty in the class 
and I thought that I had analyzed everyone when Elizabeth stood up.
   "You haven't analyzed me yet," she said.
   "I'm sorry," I said. "Did you hand in a sample?"
   "Yes, I did."
   I picked up the pile of samples and handed them to her and said: "See if yours is one of these."
   She looked through them. "Here it is," she said, handing it to me. "It seemed to have been stuck 
to another sample."
   I looked at the handwriting. I did a double take. Through the years I had not only formulated an 
image of what I was looking for in the ideal mate, but I had also formulated what my ideal mate's 
handwriting should look like. After many years and thousands of handwriting samples I finally 
found one that looked like the image I had conjectured.
   I probably embarrassed Elizabeth when I blurted out her qualities. Her handwriting showed that 
she was very intelligent, passionate: objective, yet caring; focused, yet curious; loving, yet having 
good common sense.
   After telling her about a dozen positive characteristics I put the sample down and took a good 
look at her. The first thing I noticed was her very attractive almost sparkling face with darting 
intelligent eyes that seemed to focus with great attention from time to time. There was an honesty 
in her eyes that revealed her mood at the moment. I have since come to call them smiling eyes 
because when she is happy the sparkle in her eyes makes her feelings so obvious.
   Physically she was about 5'3", light brown hair, great figure and with looks enough to generate 
an attractive pull in any male.
   I somehow felt deep within myself that I would marry her. I tried to momentarily dismiss the 
feeling, but it stayed with me throughout the week. Then, after the next class, I accosted her and 
asked her to join me for coffee and the rest is history. I could easily write a book about our 
relationship and how it developed, but that is not the grand purpose of this book, as you will soon 
see. What you need to understand at this time is that we fell as much in love as is possible for us 
mortals to do. Think of your favorite love story and multiply the emotions times ten and that was 
us. I felt fulfilled and secure for the first time in my life.
   It seemed that nothing could go wrong.
   Until that fateful day...
   I remember the day very clearly. I was in the family room reading a book and Elizabeth was 
fixing us an evening cup of coffee. The moment came as she was walking down the stairs, 
bringing my cup to me just as she did each evening.
   But this time she fell down the stairs, knocking herself into a semi conscious state.
   I ran to her, holding her as she revived and lifted her up.
   "I can't stand up." she said.
   "Sure you can, sweetheart. You just had a bad fall. Just rest a minute."
   She rested a while, but still could not stand.
   I rushed her to the emergency room. The doctor told me that they needed to run some tests.
   Finally, after three weeks of testing, we discovered the problem. She had multiple sclerosis. My 
heart sunk as I asked the doctor how serious it was and how long she had to live.
   "It varies with each person," he said. "Some go quickly, other hang on for years. I must warn 
you, however, it appears that the disease is progressing quickly with your wife. I would guess that 
she has somewhere around a year or two to live. You never know, though. She could linger on for 
ten years or more, but you must prepare yourself for the worst.
   "Right now she can't even walk. She may get some of her strength back, but then will probably 
lose it again. It's like moving one step forward and two steps back. Sooner or later the disease 
gets you.
   "The problem now is with her legs, but later it will be other parts of her body.
   Near the end she'll probably lose her sight, and even her ability to speak and feed herself. I 
hope you love her a lot because she's going to be very dependent on you."
   "I'll be there for her," I said with tears in my eyes. "We'll do whatever it takes. Somehow we'll 
beat it."
   "Just be prepared to deal with it. Don't get your hopes too high. It can be frustrating for both of 
you. Just be thankful that you have a year or two of sharing left. Many people I deal with have 
their loved ones taken suddenly and wish they could just have five minutes with them to say 
good-bye. You have time for a long loving good-bye. I would advise you to make the most of it."
   "I appreciate the advice doctor, but don't take our hope away. There has to be a way to beat 
this."
   "I understand your feelings," he said patiently. "But my experience tells me that I must do what I
can to prepare you for the real world."
   "I see your point," I said, "but I refuse to give up hope no matter what the odds are. I've always 
believed that all things are possible.
   "I'm here to help however I can," the doctor said quietly.
   The next year was rather discouraging. The doctor was proven to be entirely correct. Elizabeth 
got one step better and two steps worse.
   She got some strength back in her legs but later lost all strength in her legs plus some of her 
vision. During that year we tried every medicine, every health food, every herb that had any 
chance of working, but her health seemed unrelated to anything that we tried. She finally reached 
a point where she was confined to a wheelchair and was barely able to feed herself because of 
her shaking limbs.
   Fortunately, she still had her mental capacities, but the doctor warned me that even that could 
go next. At this point he told me that she seemed to be deteriorating and could go fairly quickly. 
She could go in six months or possibly linger on for years.
Part 1a.
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11=3/62
From: Isabelle
Subject: The Immortal 1b
Part 1b.
   One night, as we lay in bed together and I held her in my arms, I thought of the years we spent 
together. In my mind's eye I visualized her being vibrant as she was when we first met and as she 
is now. I felt very sad. Why did this have to happen to the most wonderful woman I have ever 
met?
   As I contemplated the situation I said a prayer from deep within my heart.
   "Why God does something like this happen to such a wonderful person as my wife?
   You would think you'd have to be a serial killer to deserve such punishment, but Elizabeth has 
never hurt anyone. Maybe some very minor things, but nothing to deserve such pain. If this is a 
punishment it seems unjust and out of proportion.
   "Even ministers these days are saying that life is unfair. If You are truly God, then one of Your 
main attributes should be fairness and justice. Where is fairness and justice in this situation? I ask 
not for myself, but for the woman I love. Surely there is an answer somewhere, somehow, 
someplace..."
   This was a sort of basic prayer I thought within my heart several times daily ever since 
Elizabeth became ill. However, on this particular night I said it with great emotion and cried myself 
to sleep with my thoughts.
   That night I fell into a very sound, profound yet peaceful sleep. Then in the morning something 
quite unusual happened. I was at that point where you are between being asleep and awake. I 
know there have been several times when I have been at this stage that I was not sure if I was 
dreaming or not. This was one of those times.
   This was the first time I heard the bells; gentle, penetrating, familiar, soft, yet very real bells.
   At the time I heard them I was sure I was hearing real bells, perhaps ringing somewhere 
outside my bedroom window, but then I roused myself and rose up in my bed and the sound 
disappeared. I was not sure if I really heard them or if I was dreaming. Then I settled back into 
sleep and I heard the bells again. I roused myself and the sound again went silent. Then this 
process was repeated for a third time.
   One experience like this I could have shrugged off, but a three-time repetition got me thinking 
that there was some significance here.
   Then the next morning I heard the bells again. And again the next morning.
Finally, I felt I had to mention it to Elizabeth. I told her the story and she said, "The only thing I 
can suggest is that it must be some type of message or sign intended just for you. I was sleeping 
next to you each of these past three mornings and I heard no bells."
   "But if it is some type of message intended just for me, what good is it?
   I've thought and thought about it and I can't see any hidden meaning in bells ringing."
   "Have you heard bells in real life that sound anything like these?" she asked.
   "Well, they sound something like Christmas bells and they seem very familiar. Christmas is just 
a few weeks away. Could it have something to do with that?"
   "Who knows?" she shrugged. "Maybe you're just thinking too much about Christmas. How 
about taking your mind off the bells by doing some grocery shopping for me. Get a pen and I'll 
give you the list"
Part 1b.
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-3/63
From: LeLona Hodges
Subject: Re: The Immortal 1b
   Isabelle writes: "Thank you, thank you, thank you. For 1a and 1b. Looking forward to see what 
happened to Elizabeth."
   I'm not saying I won't buy the book(s). I just heard about it a week or so ago. Thanks for the 
address where to order it from.
LeLona
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-3/64
From: Isabelle
Subject: Re: Decision Discussion
   "Greetings to all, I am curious if it would be okay with everyone if we could start a discussion on 
the 1st key about who and what we are? Or would we be spoiling it for those who have not read 
the 2nd book yet? I have some thoughts and questions on this and hope to be able to get some 
input from everyone on the list. Let me know if you think this would be appropriate. Namaste 
James Bryan"
James,
   Because new people are joining daily, there will always be people here who have not read the 
second book. I'm ready to start discussion of the question leading to the first key.... "Who or What 
are You?"
   Since you, Rob, Rick and of course JJ have more experience here I would like to hear from one 
of you first..
   Of course, in the interest of spontaneity, I am also interested in anything else people want to 
discuss.
Grins,
Belle
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-3/65
From: Isabelle
Subject: Re: The Immortal 1b
   LeLona writes: "Thank you, thank you, thank you. For 1a and 1b. Looking forward to see what 
happened to Elizabeth. "I'm not saying I won't buy the book(s). I just heard about it a week or so 
ago. Thanks for the address where to order it from."
   No problem, LeLona.... I will post Chapters 2 and 3. That should give everyone a good start.. I 
don't want to fill up people's mailboxes if they have already read the rest .Unless it is decided by 
the group that this would be useful for discussion purposes as it makes it easy to print out.. I 
personally liked getting chapter by chapter..
   Let me know.. If the majority wants it, I will post more.. Otherwise
downloading it from the online site is good.
Belle
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-3/66
From: Isabelle
Subject: The Immortal Part 2
CHAPTER TWO
The Mystery of the Bells
   Since Elizabeth became ill I did most of our shopping and must admit I got pretty good at it. I 
clipped coupons, checked for sales, compared store brands with national brands and much more. 
I got to the point where I somewhat enjoyed shopping and would probably still do most of it even 
if Elizabeth was healed.
   As I drove up to Albertson's supermarket at 16th and State Street in our fair city of Boise, Idaho 
I noticed for the first time that Christmas decorations were up and Christmas trees were for sale. I 
wasn't sure if decorations were just put up or if this was the first time I had noticed.
   It seemed like Thanksgiving had just ended and it was too early to even think about Christmas.
   I felt a little like Scrooge as I got out of my car thinking about all the presents I had to buy 
compared to how few I would receive. I remember thinking as I entered the building how it would 
be a lot better if Christmas came once every five years...
   Then, as I opened the door, all thoughts left me... I heard the bells!
   They were the same bells I heard in my quasi sleep, but this time I was sure that I was awake 
and the bells were real. I retreated back out the door and turned around.
   To my surprise I saw a bell ringer for the Salvation Army!
   I was amazed that I did not connect the bells I heard in my sleep with those of the bell ringers. 
Somehow I did not remember them sounding like the bells I heard in front of me. The sound of 
these bells seemed to be so pure, sweet and almost holy. Perhaps I had just never listened to 
them before.
   The bell ringer was a good-looking older man around sixty, clean shaven with dark hair and 
simply dressed. Some of the bell ringers look like they could have been taken from a homeless 
shelter, but this one did not give that impression.
   He was a far cry from any executive look but also gave the impression that he would never be 
down and out. If I were to guess his vocation by his looks I would guess that he was a high school 
teacher or maybe even a real estate salesman like myself.
   After looking his direction for about thirty seconds he caught my eye and said:
   "Merry Christmas."
   "Merry Christmas," I said as I retreated back into the store in a state of bewilderment.
   As I went through my wife's shopping list I tried to find meaning in it all.
   I heard bells on my awakening three days in a row and now I heard the same bells here at the 
grocery store by a Salvation Army bell ringer. At the time I heard the bells I was thinking like 
Scrooge about Christmas.
   Maybe I was being taught some supernatural lesson like in the movie.
Perhaps I was being told that I should donate to the poor.
   Financially, I was feeling like one of the poor myself, for I had gone heavily into debt and had no 
extra money because of Elizabeth's illness.
   Nevertheless, perhaps I was supposed to take my mind off my own concerns and think of 
others who have problems.
   By the time I had finished shopping, I had decided to give the bell ringer a donation on the way 
out. It wasn't much, but maybe it was what I was supposed to do.
   As I passed by the pot I dropped in a five dollar bill. The bell ringer looked me in the eye and 
said:
   "Thanks. Have a Merry Christmas."
   There was something about the look in his eyes that disturbed me. He seemed to have large 
eyes with large pupils and the look about him reinforced the idea of teacher in my mind. There 
was something about his look that made me feel that he knew things that I did not. I had never 
felt that way about a stranger before, but that is how I felt about this man.
   I got in the car and started driving home and passed another store that appeared to have a bell 
ringer. I parked again and walked toward the bells and stopped in front of the man. I was stunned.
   These bells sounded similar, but not exactly like the first bell ringer or those heard in my dream 
state.
   This piqued my curiosity, so for the next couple of hours I drove all over town and visited every 
bell ringer I could find. Each one of them sounded similar to the second bell ringer. Only the first 
bell ringer created a sound like the bells that I remember hearing in my sleep.
   Then I began to wonder if my mind was playing tricks on me. Maybe I just thought those first 
bells were like those in my dream state.
   Elizabeth was upset that I was gone so long shopping and was worried about me.
   She quickly calmed down as I explained to her what happened. I ended with, "Maybe it was just 
my imagination that the first bell ringer sounded like the ones that I heard on waking."
   "And maybe it isn't," she said. "Maybe it is a sign of some kind.
   Perhaps you were just supposed to remember the spirit of Christmas and give what you can 
afford and that's all there is to it."
   "Maybe," I said, not convinced she was right.
   I felt unsettled about any explanation we could arrive at about the bells.
   The next morning, as I lie between wakefulness and sleep, I became even more unsettled as I 
heard the bells again. This time I heard them resonate for a few seconds after I was fully awake. I 
knew now that the bells were not from my imagination. I also knew that the message of the bells 
was not resolved.
   After I shared this with Elizabeth she said: "Your guess that you are supposed to have a more 
giving spirit may be correct. The last time you gave five dollars. That's probably about all we have 
given to the poor all year. Think about it. That's not much of a donation. I know we don't have 
much money, but we can do better than that."
   "You're right," I said. "This time I will give fifty dollars. That's about all we can afford, but we can 
give that much."
   I took off again to Albertson's at 16th Street and approached the bell ringer again. Again I heard 
the beautiful sound. They were definitely the same sound that I heard on waking. As I started to 
appreciate their beauty I felt my whole body and soul was resonating to the vibration of the bells. 
Somehow they made me feel whole, peaceful, strong, connected... It's difficult to give you the 
picture, but the effect was definite and strong. I put two twenties and a ten in the pot, looked at 
the bell ringer and said: "Merry Christmas."
   "Your gift is greatly appreciated," said the bell ringer.     I started walking backward, catching the 
eye of the bell ringer for a few seconds before we disconnected. Again I felt unsettled as I drove 
home.
   After I got home I told Elizabeth: "Giving the fifty dollars was a good thing to do, but I don't think 
it was the answer. Suppose that the answer has nothing to do with the bells, Christmas, the spirit 
of giving, but something else?"
   "What else could it be?" she asked.
   Maybe it's got something to do with the man - the bell ringer."
   "You said you felt he was different?"
   "Yes. He was different...Maybe he knows something."
   If you hear the bells again then maybe you should check him out," she said.
   This can also be found at the web site;
http://www.freeread.com/ 
Part 2.
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-3/67
From: Isabelle
Subject: The Immortal Part 3
Chapter 3
The First Communion
   The next morning I heard the bells again. They continued to ring for several minutes after I was 
fully awake. This time I decided that I must talk to the bell ringer himself. I felt there was a 
possibility that he may somehow hold the keys to this mystery.
   I drove over to Albertson's again and there he was, faithfully ringing his bell.
   I felt nervous about approaching him but forced myself onward.
   I put a couple dollars in the pot and managed to say "How's it going today?"
   "Fine," he replied.
   "Has anyone commented that the sound of your bells seems to be different than the other bell 
ringers in town?"
   "Several have commented," he smiled with noticeable pleasure in his eyes.
   "The reason my bell rings differently is that I have my own bell."
   "I didn't know any bell ringers had their own bell."
   "I've used this bell for a very long time. Here. Take a look at it."
   He put it in my hand.
   It felt warm, almost tingly to my touch. I peered at it and said, "It looks like there are some 
ancient hand-carved hieroglyphics on the surface." I looked closer. "This one here is interesting. It 
looks like a crop circle I remember seeing recently. Do you know what they mean?"
   "The meanings are layered and are interpreted in levels. I understand several of the levels," he 
said.
   After he said this I seemed to sense that my suspicion was correct, that there was something 
hidden about this man. I rang the bell gently against my ear.
   "It has the most beautiful sound I have ever heard," I said.
   "Yes," said the man, smiling. "It really helps with the donations. Just because of that beautiful 
sound this location receives over three times the donations of any other in town."
   "Interesting," I said. "Has anyone told you they heard your bells in their sleep?"
   The man looked visibly shaken. "Not for a long time," he said. "Why do you ask that?"
   I told him my experience with the bells.
   He smiled and said, "Then you are the one I have been waiting for."
   I stared at him wide-eyed. "You've been waiting for me? Why? This is too weird to be true."
   "If you think this is strange now, just wait a while. What is your name, my old friend?"
   "What do you mean by old friend?"
   "I'll explain later when you are ready. Now tell me your name."
   I figured what harm is there in telling him? "My name is J. J. Dewey. My friends call me Joe."
   "So the first J stands for Joe or is it Joseph?"
   "On my birth certificate it is Joseph, but as you know almost all Josephs call themselves Joe.
Joseph seems a little pious. About the only person who ever calls me that is my wife".
   "It is good that you are not pious. Nevertheless, Joseph is a beautiful and ancient name. Do you 
know what it means?"
   "I think I read somewhere that it means added or added upon."
   "Whoever came up with that did not really understand the Hebrew. In ancient days, when a 
father named his son Joseph he did so with the understanding that his son will have great 
increase - that whatever good that is in him will be amplified and eventually bring forth an 
abundance of all the earth has to offer.
   Joseph of the Bible who was sold into Egypt was the perfect example of this.
   He increased in knowledge, virtue and eventually became the richest man on the earth."
   "Sounds like a good destiny," I said. This man was unusually knowledgeable for a bell ringer.
   "Your second initial is J. What does that stand for?"
   "John," I said.
   "How appropriate! That is also my name. Do you know what this name means?"
   "I don't think so."
   "This name comes from the Hebrew Yowchanan. Any dictionaries that define the word miss the 
full meaning. Basically, it implies that a man with this name will attract the attention of God to the 
extent that God will befriend him as an equal. Some say it means favored of -God, but the 
meaning is more like friend of God."
   "So would you say that the apostle John is the great example of this since he was called the 
beloved of Jesus, or perhaps His best friend?" I asked.
   John's eyes widened in surprise and he smiled. "He was an example perhaps. I don't know if I 
would call him a great one."
   I pondered what he said. The comment seemed rather strange to me. Of course John the 
Beloved was a great example, I thought.
   He shifted my attention again toward his bell. "See this symbol here," he said, holding up the 
bell.
   I looked and answered, "You mean the two intertwined circles?"
   "Yes."
   "One has a dot in the middle," I remarked.
   "That is my name." said John.
   "So this symbol means John?"
   "Yes and no," he said. "It identifies me and I am John, but it doesn't necessarily mean John."
   "You seem to speak in riddles," I said.
   "All teachers do at times," he said, smiling. "Did I hear right that your last name is Dewey?"
   "Yes."
   "Do you know what that means?"
   "I'm not sure."
   "The medieval Welsh altered the name of David, or the Greek Dabeed, to something like 
Dawee and finally to Dewey. Do you know the meaning of David, my old friend?"
   I wondered again why he kept calling me old friend but I was too interested in the names to 
backtrack. "It seems like I remember learning back in Sunday School that it means beloved."
   "The standard meaning is close here. It means beloved as in the sense of a family member or 
close friend. King David of the Bible was called a man after God's own heart and God had 
compassion toward David in his weaknesses just as a Father would toward his own son."
   "How do you know all of this? You almost sound like you know this from personal experience." 
This man was really arousing my curiosity.
   "That doesn't matter right now," he replied. "The point is that you are blessed with three 
meaningful ancient names which will help you accomplish your mission."
   "Mission?" I asked, startled. I would have walked away at that point if the man had not been so 
captivating.
   "Your full name is strong with meaning. Put together, it goes something like this: The desires of 
your heart will be amplified and fulfilled by attracting the attention of God or his servants. If you 
use your power of increase for good, you will enter into the Kingdom of God and become part of 
the family of God."
   "It's a good thing I didn't know the meaning of my name earlier - I might have gotten a big 
head," I laughed.
   "You are far from being alone in having a beautiful meaning behind your name.
   Almost all names have a lot of beauty and meaning in them. It is sad that the ancient science of 
names and the power of their meaning has been lost to the world. But this loss is temporary.
   Mankind will soon learn the power of names again."
   I studied this wise man closer. "You aren't just a bell ringer, are you? Who are you really?"
John sighed, looked heavenward for a moment and then looked at me. 
   "I guess it's time to tell someone, but I can only tell you if you heard the bells as you were 
waking from sleep. You did hear them, didn't you?"
   "Yes, I heard them loud and clear."
   John shut his eyes for a few seconds as if he was reading a page from a book within his head. 
He opened them and said: "Yes. You did really hear them. I do not doubt you. This is a great day. 
Would you like to get a cup of coffee at Denny's when I finish my shift? It's only a few minutes 
away"
   I didn't know if this guy was for real or not - probably not, I thought - but, like I said, I'm a very 
curious person. I replied, "I don't know why I find your words so fascinating. Yes, I would really 
like to talk more..." coffee at Denny's seemed to be a strange situation to have the greatest 
spiritual experience of my life, but that was where it happened.
   After we received our coffee and exchanged several pleasantries about the Christmas season, I 
had to show my curiosity. "I'm full of questions. I want to know the meaning of the bells, who you 
are and what you mean by mission."
   "One at a time," he smiled. "What do you want to know first?"
   "Do you know why I heard the bells?"
   "The bells were tuned to your vibration and I was calling for you. The law is that I could not 
come to you, but you had to respond and come to me. You heard the bells and came to me as I 
anticipated. That is all I will tell you right now." 
   "Well, I'll take any morsel I can get right now. Can you tell me who you are? Obviously, you're 
more than a bell ringer and I think more than any ordinary man..."
   "If I just tell you outright you will not believe me," he said. "Hold your right hand up and let your 
fingertips touch mine."
   I felt kind of weird doing this. I looked around and saw we were fairly secluded in a corner so I 
thought what the heck and put my fingertips next to his.
   "Now look at me steady in the eyes," he said.
   It seemed a strange thing to do, but everything about this man and events leading up to our 
encounter seemed strange, so I thought I had nothing to lose and looked him in the eyes as we 
touched fingertips.
   At first nothing seemed to happen.
   "Keep looking," he said, "and free your mind from all thoughts."
   As I cooperated with him I felt my mind begin to drift. I thought we were having a Vulcan mind 
melding, for I sensed a merging of our two souls in a way difficult to explain.
   He pulled away his fingers and asked: "Now you tell me... Who am I?"
   I drew back in a start and exclaimed: "I know who you are. You're John!"
   He smiled and said, "You've known all along my name is John."
   "But you're not just any John. You are the John!"
   "And which John is that?"
   "You are John, the fisherman, the son of Zebedee, the apostle... the Beloved...
Part 3.
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-3/68
From: Rick Audette
Subject: Re: Decision Discussion
LeLona, 
   You don't have to buy book 1. You can download it for free at www.freeread.com It's a short 
book, so you can read it tonight and join the discussions tomorrow 
One,
Rick
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-3/69
From: Rick Audette
Subject: Re: Decision Discussion
   Did JJ need Johns permission to discuss who and what we are with his buddy Wayne? No. 
Now is exactly when we should start. I've been meaning to start that one up myself but have been 
swamped with other things. What JJ says about it is just information until we put the ideas to the 
test. By talking about it, we make that information a part of us and then it becomes our 
knowledge, n'est pas. Somebody go ahead and start the ball rolling.
Rick
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-3/70
From: Rick Audette
Subject: Re: Channeled material
Belle,
   Naturally, the subject has come up between JJ and I (you know me, Mr. Watchdog). Alas, I do 
not have a copy of that letter, at this location. I'll send the relevant parts to the list tonight when I 
get home.
Rick
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-3/71
From: LeLona Hodges
Subject: Re: Decision Discussion
   Rick Audette writes: "You don't have to buy book 1. You can download it for free at 
"www.freeread.com"
   "It's a short book, so you can read it tonight and join the discussions tomorrow."
   Thanks, Rick, I'll do that. I'm getting into the story by now, and anxious to read the last page 
:).....
   For some reason, unknown to me at this time, I'm very drawn to this idea/book/person/?/
LeLona
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-3/72
From: Rick Audette
Subject: Re: Decision Discussion
   Yes LeLona, We all know how you feel about being drawn to the book. I guess that means 
you'll be staying on this list for awhile, ay.
Rick
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-3/73
From: "d.linen"
Subject: Re: Decision Discussion
Hi Rick,
   Amazing how it works that way, isn't it? At the very least in reading the first book, one can start 
singing the Song of 144,000.
Diane
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-3/74
From: "James Bryan"
Subject: Re: Decision Discussion
   Well here goes, (Deep Breathe)
   In Becoming that which He Decides to Become, God decided to Create. God reflected Himself 
and we are that reflection. Therefore I Am Becoming that which I Decide to Become. Or We are 
Becoming that which We Decide to Become.
   With that said, when I look at the key words defining Who or What I Am, I wonder if this is the 
key to Creating my reality. (What is real in my life.)(What is manifested in my life.)
   The equation Decision + Consciousness = Attention
is quite interesting when you consider that God's Attention is on what he Consciously Decides.
   So then, can I say that God Creates by making a Conscious Decision about something then 
gives it His Attention. If this is so then we can create by Consciously Deciding that which we want 
and give it Attention. If we put the equation Decision + Consciousness = Attention in parenthesis 
then does the whole of the formula = Creation?
   Creation = (Decision + Consciousness = Attention)
   What is missing from this formula?
   Can we create or bring into manifestation in our lives the things we need (healing, prosperity 
etc.) by applying this equation.
   Well I think I will stop there for now and see what kind of feedback I get from this. Am I off base 
here or is it this simple? What thoughts does this bring to your mind? How could we apply this 
equation in our daily lives. I look forward to your replies.
Namaste 
James Bryan
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-3/75
From: LHodges
Subject: Re: Decision Discussion
   Rick writes: "We all know how you feel about being drawn to the book. I guess that means you'll 
be staying on this list for awhile, ay."
AY!
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-3/76
From: LeLona Hodges
Subject: Re: Decision Discussion
   Bryan writes: "What thoughts does this bring to your mind?"
   My first thought is that you summed it up in your very first sentence when you said *take a deep 
breath*.
LeLona
 
Post NO. keys-l: /1998-11-3/77
From: Alice Despard
Subject: May I introduce myself.
Hello, 
   My name is Alice Despard and I am new to the list.
   I am currently a moderator on another list which I will tell you about in a moment.
   My background: I am almost 40 (on Christmas Eve); I am a musician; I own a bar in Arlington, 
Virginia called Galaxy Hut where I also tend bar two nights a week. I love communicating with all 
sorts of people, so my line of work is perfect for me at the moment. There is a little group of 
regulars whom I would call my fellow students in spiritual studies. I have been actively studying 
different esoteric teachings for about two and 1/2 years or so (and most of my life more or less 
actively!).
   I found the Immortal through Isabelle's posting on a list(and pointed out the significance of her 
name in alerting others to the JJ Dewey site!) and was pretty astounded by the teachings, 
especially because of the familiarity of many of the principles revealed. I am a student in a 
mystery school based out of Australia called the Temple of St. John. The teachings are 
telepathically communicated through a "typist" from a group of teachers who call themselves the 
Elder Brothers of Humanity. They do not give us their individual names because they want the 
students to focus on the teachings, and not on the individual identities of the teachers. Many (but 
by no means all) of the principles taught in the Immortal can also be found expounded on in these 
teachings. They ring very true with my soul. I have been studying these teachings for about a 
year now and have grown to know and love the inner circle of workers in Australia and elsewhere 
who are trying to disseminate this work. The teachings are all available for free, in order to keep 
the purity of teachings intact. Please understand this is not a back-handed criticism of Mr. 
Dewey's need to sell the books in order to be able to continue in his work. It is clearly valuable 
work indeed! However, having to buy the books (book 2)gave me some reservation about them. 
But my reservations were put aside once I began to read the books.
   Relatedly on the subject of the dissemination of teachings, I would be interested to know what 
you all think of Neale Donald Walsche and his Conversations with God books? I enjoyed book 1, 
but Book two made my spiritual antennae quiver a bit near the end. In fact, my intuition told me to 
move away from Mr. Walshche's writings and his growing world of CWG converts. I lost interest 
in those books, and got launched in a different direction and began to read Rudolf Steiner, Alice 
Bailey, the Kybalion, and a most incredible occult masterpiece called Light on the Path by M.C. 
Collins. Please forgive me if I am getting too esoteric...I have become rather bookish lately, but I 
hope my heart and mind are in the right place, which is with the Christ and the world teachers.
   After reading some Steiner, who was the founder of the Anthroposophic movement, I was 
contacted (through serendipity on the net) by the Elder Brothers (also known as the Beehive 
888), and became one of their students. With them, I have learned that discernment, fully using 
the heart and mind conjoined, is one of the most important qualities for a student of the mysteries 
to develop. There is, in a word, a LOT of spiritual "noise" out there, especially in these times 
when the veils between worlds are thinning. I have to say that The Immortal teachings "smell" 
right to me, and I have enthusiastically encouraged my friends at Beehive 888 to explore the 
Dewey site. Their initial impression is favorable, so I plan to send them one of my copies of the 
book as my personal endorsement. It will be interesting to see what correlations might arise 
between the Keys of Knowledge and that which is being revealed through the Brothers at 
Beehive. If Mr. Dewey, or any of you, would like to check out the Temple of St. John (and I am 
not certain that I am supposed to reveal that name, so please address them as the Beehive, 
please!), and ask his own Source about it, I would be interested to hear what he has to say about 
it.
   I also published the Song of the 144,000 on the Beehive 888 egroup mailing list, which is called 
the Spiritual Science list. I felt it was very beautiful and should be shared with our list members.
   If I can get these lists to overlap, it would be wonderful, as there are many very erudite and 
wonderful souls on the Spiritual Science list. It is also a relatively new list, still in its formative 
stages. Their address, by the way is: spiritualscience@egroups.com, and Bruce, the founder (and 
fellow moderator) of the email group and disperser of the teachings can be reached personally at: 
bhive@alphalink.com.au 
   I am very very excited about all the happenings going on in this crazy world.
   Hope to hear from some of you soon. Hope this is the beginning of a fruitful relationship!
Peace be with you,
Alice
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-3/78
From: TeKnoBabL
Subject: Re: FAQ contents
   "Well I'm thinking that as questions come up, if they are something that has been talked about 
here or something JJ has made a public statement about, then we should inform the person of 
what has been said."
   I think I see what you're saying now. So if a new person asks a question that's already been 
answered he/she could be referred to the log of Q's & A's.
   Looks like your invitation worked. Last time I checked there were lots of new posts from new 
people. It helped me to feel more comfortable too. I was feeling self-conscious about saying the 
wrong thing or reflecting bad on Joseph. Now I'm thinking I'm just human, and all I can do is my 
best. If everyone else here is sincere as they seem to be then what's there to fear from a bunch 
of fellow seekers? Thanks.
Rob
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-3/79
From: JOHN KOSIOR
Subject: Introduction
Hello all,
   I would not have it that I would be considered a lurker. I am however just now trying to catch up 
on my reading, at least as far as this book is concerned. What drew me towards this list was 
excerpts from the book being posted to other lists I am a part of. Of course, being very interested 
in the spiritual events taking place all around us today, I look for each and every opportunity to 
connect with others who are also drawn toward the light of Truth.
   With that said, I would like to introduce myself. My name is John. I'm a 35 yr trumpet player, (as 
well as other vocations), and I live in So. Fla. My interest in the spiritual has been ongoing since 
the earliest remembrance of youth. I've found that although I have poured through literally dozens 
of spiritual disciplines in recent years, the greatest singular and simple Truths that I have found 
were considerations that I had made quite innocently as a child. It really is amazing as I read 
many different works, that I find myself always returning to memories of childhood when I had 
"theorized" the very grand messages that I now study. Must be something said about becoming 
"as a little child". In any case, I have been exposed to this list for the reason of my further 
remembering, and I am truly thrilled to meet each of you vicariously through this list. And I look 
forward to the discussions which will follow. I will also do my homework in reading the material so 
as to be able to make some contribution in the future.
   Thank you all for being a part of the family.
In light, 
John
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-3/80
From: Isabelle
Subject: Re: May I introduce myself?
   "Hello, My name is Alice Despard and I am new to the list."
   Hi Alice.. I remember telling you about the list, welcome!!! From your introductory post here I 
think we have found another "family" member.. I look forward to more posts from you.
<SNIP> 
   "Relatedly on the subject of the dissemination of teachings, I would be interested to know what 
you all think of Neale Donald Walsche and his Conversations with God books? I enjoyed book 1, 
but Book two made my spiritual antennae quiver a bit near the end. In fact, my intuition told me to 
move away from Mr. Walshche's writings and his growing world of CWG converts." 
   I have seen bits of that book posted on various lists and for some reason have never felt even 
remotely attracted to it.. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
   "I lost interest in those books, and got launched in a different direction and began to read 
Rudolf Steiner, Alice Bailey, the Kybalion, and a most incredible occult masterpiece called Light 
on the Path by M.C. Collins. Please forgive me if I am getting too esoteric...I have become rather 
bookish lately, but I hope my heart and mind are in the right place, which is with the Christ and 
the world teachers."
   No such thing as too esoteric around here!! I was given a copy of the Kybalion in 1974.. Great 
stuff! I guess you are into the Emerald Tablets too then??
   Your other group and list sound very interesting.. I'm not sure I have the time to join anymore 
lists at the moment, but would love to see some more of them come here. ( I will keep your 
information about contacts.)
   Again, welcome.... Feel free to jump in and give your thoughts on the book and the teachings..
Belle
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-3/81
From: LeLona Hodges
Subject: WOW
   Geesh....where to begin....."at the beginning?" OK. I downloaded Book I tonight and read the 
first 9 chapters. Even tho I can't read anymore, sitting at the computer, my mind cannot forget 
what I've read so far.
   It's like I am Elizabeth, and I am Joseph, and John is talking directly to me. I've had many years 
study and training, and I know when something or someone is real or they are not. I've even been 
trained under the "umbrella" of a man claiming to be The Paul (not as portrayed in the movie, The 
Apostle). So my mind is not foreign thinking in terms of one of the real apostles being here and 
now. I just can't wait to read more.
   I find myself asking the question "Who or What am I?" Do you know? Did you ask yourself this 
question? Did you get an answer? What? It's frustrating when a Teacher doesn't give a straight 
answer but rather leads one to get an answer for themselves, and even tho I can appreciate this 
method, it's still frustrating UNTIL the answer comes, then it's more relevant than just someone 
telling you the answer.
   I could go on and one, but I'll wait for others to discuss this book.
LeLona
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-3/82
From: Rick Audette
Subject: Who or what we are- a warped parable
   I'd like to offer my two cents about the who or what you think you are question. I don't think the 
spoken language is enough to convey the whole story, and here's why. Let's say that you have a 
large photograph of a landscape and it's framed to look like a view out a window. The quality of 
this photo is so good that many are fooled, at first, into thinking that it is a real window. As they 
move, from side to side, they can see that it is only a picture after all. No matter how real the 
scene looks, they will soon see that the picture does not behave the way real scenery does. If 
they then walk up to it, they could use a ruler to measure points in the picture. An object, on the 
distant horizon, measures out to be only inches away to one that looks to be only a stones throw 
away, but everybody knows you can't throw a stone all the way to the horizon. Any attempt to 
show an object having three dimensions, using a two dimensional media, will be a warped 
perspective of the truth. To get around this, you can look at two different pictures, taken from 
slightly different angles, look at them, one in each eye, and when they combine in the brain get a 
stereoscopic 3D view. When we talk about who or what we are, we are talking about something 
from a realm of even more than three dimensions. Any attempts to tell the truth about it, using 
mortal speech, from a single viewpoint, no matter how accurate, will be a warped projection of the 
real truth. Even Masters are bound by these limitations, when trying to tell us about higher things. 
This is why Christ used so many different parables when describing the Kingdom of God. That 
said, I will now offer some of my own warped views of who or what we are, keeping in mind that 
as long as we are in the flesh it will take all of our different views together to begin to see the Real 
Truth.
   Ok, so there's this place called infinity. This place is so big that not even God has been to every 
section of it yet. Now, who or what God is, is a question that not even a Master can know more 
than a hint of, but since this is only a parable, we'll put ourselves in His/Her shoes for a moment. 
So, once upon a timeless time, God is taking a stroll through infinity and He comes to a section 
He's never been to before. At this point, there is absolutely nothing in this section. Then He 
decides that this section of infinity is not empty after all, because he knows that He is there. Then, 
to confirm to Himself that He is in fact there, He directs His attention to seeing himself, from every 
possible vantage point, being there. He has a very powerful imagination and can see Himself 
from zillions of different vantage points at the same time. Even tho each of these vantage points 
is really Himself, they are, in a sense, less than what He is because each is looking back from a 
different perspective. As these individual viewpoints return to His mind, they need to be converted 
from a single perspective, back into the all seeing perspective, they sort of begin swapping notes 
about what they see. As they do, their shared perspectives are like having a pair of 3D glasses 
which allow for clearer vision of What they are looking at. By doing this, they are, in essence, 
becoming one with each other on the way to becoming one with God again. I could carry this 
story on, but I think this is enough to share what I was thinking about. Remember, I didn't say this 
is what really happens. And, I didn't say that this is what I believe in. It's just a silly analogy to the 
eyes and ears. The real story is hidden within the parable and can be seen and heard by whoever 
or whatever you really are.
 O.K., that's my first shot at it. Y'all can return fire at will. As we openly share with each other, we 
will grow together. That's my best guess, at this time. I'm sure it will improve with time.
One, 
Rick
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-3/83
From: Rick Audette
Subject: About channeling
   As I promised earlier, here is some stuff JJ said about mediums (channels). I looked through it 
and didn't find anything I couldn't share, so I send the whole letter, for all to read.
   "Rick, I didn't feel any light from those words you quoted me(From Mt. Shasta). The 
Brotherhood of light does not give spiritual teachings through unconscious mediums because 
they work entirely through free will. If the medium is unconscious and does not remember what 
was said when she returns then he or she did not have an opportunity to use free will to filter the 
message. The White Brotherhood always, with rare exceptions, work with disciples who are 
working with full consciousness."
   All mediums are not working for the dark side. Many of them are channeling from their own 
subconscious or some entity pretending to be a Master, but the true seeker will find very little light 
from most of them. The only positive use for mediums is to contact their own higher self or future 
self, but again this can best be done in full consciousness.
   The only reason the Hierarchy would use a medium would be because of some type of 
emergency and that would entail only a short message or two.
   The only way to be assured that you are hearing the truth is to put daily attention on the Holy 
Spirit within so the veil between you and it becomes thin. Then whenever truth is stated it will 
register within.
   All energy is like money. It is neither good or bad. How it is used is where the good and evil 
surface.
   Don't worry about leading others astray. This fear in potential disciples has prevented many 
good works in our history. Even if you make mistakes others are still responsible for their own 
perceptions. If you intentionally mislead others is one thing, but if you proceed with boldness and 
go by the highest you know then the Holy Spirit will be with you and will teach you and in the end 
you will have a fullness of truth.
   I wish I could tell you the whole mission, but you wouldn't be able to sleep at night. Suffice it to 
say that heaven and earth will be brought together if we succeed and the miracles you read about 
in the time of Jesus will return. Remember his words: "Greater things than I have done shall you 
do." That prophecy has yet to be fulfilled, but if disciples do their part this will happen soon.
   Concerning the book. The actual story part is a combination of truth and fiction. The basic 
teachings are true. I would prefer to not reveal what part is true and what part is fiction because it 
is written to stimulate an interest in finding the truth, just as it did with you. I have had some 
spiritual experiences that are greater than anything in the book, but may never write about them, 
but will write the truth gleaned from them.
   The bringing of the Holy Spirit back to the consciousness of men is an important aspect of our 
mission. Very few have felt the baptism of fire but all people inwardly seek it.
Your Friend,
JJ 
******************* 
Rick again: 
   I found it interesting that after this was talked about, the person that was channeling Adama, 
stopped and now someone new is doing it. The latest messages have begun using terms more 
like those used by JJ. I'll bet these entities are none to happy about us starting this mail list. I 
wouldn't be surprised to see some of their followers joining the list.
   Don't worry about them, but do remember, not to forget to sing the song of 144,000. And to any 
Dark Brothers, who may be listening, I have this to say; ha ha ha ha.
One, 
Rick
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-4/84
From: TeKnoBabL
Subject: Re: channeled material
   The only problem w/ channeled material is that it could be coming from deceived entities on the 
astral plane, and without soul confirmation, the followers of the info may be lead into deception as 
well.
   This goes for any unprovable truth from anyone, including Joseph.
Rob
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-4/85
From: TeKnoBabL
Subject: Re: Who or what we are- a warpped parable
   Rick, I think your parable's awesome. How all those self-aware vantage points share their notes 
about what they're seeing. Reminds me of a Borg collective. That's a compliment. :-) (Disclaimer: 
I do not support the giving up, in any way, of individuality. We can become one in Spirit, but we'll 
still retain our individuality. Isn't that awesome?)
   Allow me to throw something out there for ya'll that came to me while I was reading your 
parable. If God is eternally Becoming, is it possible to see Him as he really is? Any snapshot you 
get will be old, because by the time it's registered on your brain he'll already have become 
something else. (assuming you could actually see God w/ physical eyes).
   Wouldn't pushing our understanding of Who/What we are increase our understanding of 
Who/What God is?
Rob
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-4/86
From: TeKnoBabL
Subject: Re: your writings
   Joe, "When you get ready to post the writings could you send them to me first? I want to make 
sure they are an accurate reflection of my teachings."
   Will do.
   One thing to add. I find that the more I post on the email list the more concerned I become 
about asking for soul-confirmation about you. How can I tell someone to ask for soul-confirmation 
when I haven't had a single one myself? That makes me a hypocrite, and a bad teacher.
Concerned,
Rob 
P.S.--I still haven't received those books. Did I get the address wrong? Just in case, here it is 
again: T. Rob Brennan, [street address omitted by ed.] Brown Deer, WI 53209
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-4/87
From: TeKnoBabL
Subject: Oh great, my secrets out!!!!
   Now everyone will know my address. :-)
   How can I get this removed? 
   Embarrassed, 
Rob
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-4/88
From: Samu Karlsson
Subject: Rick's New Jerusalem pic
   Dear friends, today I received Rick's image of New Jerusalem which is based on The Immortal 
book, and I quickly put together a simple web page here at work so you all will be able to view it, I 
also added the earlier picture Rick sent to me since it is saved on my server anyway and I 
thought some of you might be interested in seeing it :) I haven't read book II yet (decided to order 
it via Amazon.com together with some other books that I've been wanting:) so I haven't read the 
description of the City given in the book, but the feeling I get when looking at Rick's work is very 
majestic, encompassing and uplifting. Great job!
The address is: http://www.dlc.fi/~samu3/NewJerusalem.html
   Rick, I don't have 3d Max yet but when I do, which may be in few days time, I'd love to have the 
3d file. I'll let you know :) Thanks Brother!
Much love to All,
Samu 
Ps. First snow is reality in southern Finland today. Yeehaw! :D
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-4/89
From: LeLona Hodges
Subject: Re: Rick's New Jerusalem pic 
   Samu writes: "http://www.dlc.fi/~samu3/NewJerusalem.html"
   I tried that address, and it wasn't found. Is it dlc.fi as in fi?
LeLona
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-4/90
From: LeLona Hodges
Subject: Re: Who or what we are- a warped parable
   Ok, One Rick, I'll fire at will. Here's a simple question: Do you know who/what you are?
LeLona
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-4/91
From: Samu Karlsson
Subject: Re: Rick's New Jerusalem pic
   "http://www.dlc.fi/~samu3/NewJerusalem.html"
   "I tried that address, and it wasn't found. Is it dlc.fi as in f i? LeLona"
   LeLona, (like your beautiful name:)
I use Eudora as my e-prog and all the url's are clickable, but you can also copy and paste the 
address into your browser, it is correct.
   Yes, it is f and i as the first 2 letters in Finland :)
Much love,
Samu
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-4/92
From: LeLona Hodges
Subject: Re: Re: Rick's New Jerusalem pic
Ok, found it. Don't get it.
Saw your pics. Nice.
LeLona
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-4/93
From: Rick Audette
Subject: Re: Re: Rick's New Jerusalem pic
Hi All, 
For those who are new, the picture of the City of New Jerusalem, that Samu is displaying on his 
web page, is a view of a 3D model that I created, using 3D Studio Max software. The model is 
constructed from details given of it by JJ in book 2 and John, in the Book of Revelations. Some of 
the details go beyond what is given in book 2, but will be featured in book 3, when Elizabeth, 
herself, visits the city
Rick
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-4/94
From: LHodges
Subject: Re: Re: Rick's New Jerusalem pic
   Rick Audette writes: "For those who are new, the picture of the City of New Jerusalem, that 
Samu is displaying on his web page, is a view of a 3D model that I created, using 3D Studio Max 
software. The model is constructed from details given of it by JJ in book 2 and John, in the Book 
of Revelations. Some of the details go beyond what is given in book 2, but will be featured in 
book 3, when Elizabeth, herself, visits the city."
   Thanks, Rick, but I still don' get it. A New Jerusalem in the shape of a pyramid? It almost looks 
like a Merkaba Machine.
   I haven't read book 2 yet, and just to chapter 9 of Book 2. Speaking of which, is there a phone 
number I can call to give my credit card info over the phone to get book 2? I really don't want to 
send the card number in an email. And, I checked with Amazon bookstore online and they don't 
have book 2 listed.
   Who/what did you say you are? :)
LeLona
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-4/95
From: Rick Audette
Subject: book 2 and who/what
   LeLona, I do not have JJ's phone and wouldn't feel right about giving it out, if I did. But hang in 
there and he will e-mail you directly with how you can order the book.
   As to the who/what question, I'm not sure if anyone could answer that question, using mere 
words. I think it is meant for each of us to go within ourselves for the answer to that and other 
keys. If I were to try to verbalize the answer I received, you might be offended by it. When you 
find the answer, you will know, 100%, that you are right. Then you will not have to ask others. We 
will recognize each other without speaking about it.
   That's what I think about it.
One, 
Rick
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-4/96
From: LeLona Hodges
Subject: Re: book 2 and who/what
   Thanks, Rick. I wouldn't be offended, because I know the answer for myself, and you're right, 
some people I'm sure would be offended. I'm not asking others for the answer, was just 
wondering where you were coming from. Now I know.
LeLona
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-4/97
From: TeKnoBabL
Subject: RE: The Immortal at Amazon.com
   LeLona, Amazon.com does have it. Go there. Type in Joseph J. Dewey in the [SEARCH] field, 
click go. Should take you right to it. Books I and II are in one volume.
Rob
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-4/98
From: Lelona Hodges
Subject: Re: RE: The Immortal at Amazon.com
   TeKnoBabL writes: "Amazon.com does have it. Go there. Type in Joseph J. Dewey in the 
[SEARCH] field, click go. Should take you right to it. Books I and II are in one volume."
   Wonderful! So the Book I I saw this morning is both volumes? I'll go look again, and order it 
pronto.
LeLona
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-4/99
From: LeLona Hodges
Subject: Meow
   Hello, all. I thought there'd be tons of discussion today. I've now read 10 chapters of Book I. 
Has everyone else already read the book and know the contents?
   Well, here's from a sign alongside the road to work this morning:
Dogs believe they are human Cats believe they are go 
   I thought that appropriate here. So far, I think the book I is right-on, and I can't see how anyone 
would brush it aside. But, 2 of my friends did, so anything's possible. I guess it's my turn, huh? 
No, not to brush it aside, but to be hooked by it. There just isn't enough time in the day to read it 
and do everything else that needs to be done. But, I did get to order it from Amazon, so hopefully 
it'll be here in a couple of days.
   You know, I've had a similar experience, but not with someone named John. This happened 
many years ago, and a girl I met needed a place to stay, so I invited her into my home. After a 
while we got clickin' into something (I still can't say what it was) that lasted for about 3 days, day 
and night. It seemed that she was moving me physically through many lifetimes. I'd see them on 
TV, I'd see them at work, I'd see them everywhere. Finally, one morning about 4 am I came to my 
"senses" and said "who are you?" The room light up especially bright and she said "I am you". It 
was soon after that that she got her life straightened out and moved away. I was devastated by 
her absence, and tried to find her but never could. All she said when she left was "I have to go 
work for my Father". It was one of those once in a lifetime happenings that definitely changed my 
life. I was at the end of my rope, and contemplating suicide. After her stay I read the Bible from 
cover to cover in 6 months and my life changed so totally you'd never know it was the same 
person. Well, my family didn't even know what happened, but they knew something had.
   Enough! Sorry. Got carried away.
LeLona
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-4/100
From: JOHN KOSIOR
Subject: Re: Meow
   LeLona Hodges wrote: "Enough! Sorry. Got carried away."
   Hi LeLona, No need to be sorry. And please, always carry on!
In light, 
John
 
Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-4/101
From: LeLona Hodges
Subject: Re: Meow
   Thanks, John, but I'd rather talk about the book, not about me. I haven't written my book yet, 
and don't want to write it here. :)
   In Chapter 12 John disappears. Can anyone on this list do that? Do you know of anyone who 
can?
LeLona

Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-4/102
From: Rick Audette
Subject: More about New Jerusalem
Hi All,
   Just wanted to share some more notes about the description of New Jerusalem, that I had 
learned from JJ. As impressive as my 3D model may seem, I feel that it is a mere stick figure, 
when compared to descriptions. Alas, I am but a Mechanical Designer and a Woodcarver. There 
is only so much I can do with my limited skills and software. I can only pray that one day I can go 
to this marvelous place, for myself. Since reading the Book, I think all day, every day about what 
services I can perform that may help get us all there. I want to help others, even if I myself might 
never make it. Reading the Book, uniting with others of like mind and saying the song of 144,000 
each day has been increasing my joy so much that the slightest thought about it now makes my 
eyes mist. I hope they have lots of chairs in New Jerusalem, because I won't be able to take all 
that Peace and Joy standing up.
 Notes from JJ:
   "The city has a circular aura, which is not mentioned in the book. Inside the circle is a cube 
which is like a great movie screen that is attuned to thought and projects to your mind messages 
and information which will be meaningful to approaching entities. Two people approaching the 
city will see it in different ways but if they see truly certain images will remain constant. The circle, 
the square, the portals, the pyramid and the eye. A Christian or Jew will see the Tribes of Israel 
above the Portals but a Buddhist will see something else and also see a different architecture 
within the square of translucent gold.
   Within the pyramid is infinite time and space.... The eye is a portal to another Infinite City in a 
parallel universe."
   My Love and thanks to All for letting me share,
Rick

Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-4/103
From: Rick Audette
Subject: Our stories and other funny stuff
   "Thanks, John, but I'd rather talk about the book, not about me. I haven't written my book yet, 
and don't want to write it here. :) LeLona"
   Gee, I like to think that we are all, somehow, in the book. John assigned JJ the task of 
gathering us together. Our job is to learn t act as one with each other and the Father. The more 
we come to know the story of each others lives, the more we will be able to Love and accept each 
other. Every day, I go to the members list and read the bios of the newcomers. Not because of 
any sense of duty as the list operator, but because I want to get to know each of you as a brother 
or sister. I must say, there are a lot of very special people here. Makes me feel kind of humble. 
We have Authors and Healers and Artists and Musicians. I am honored just to have done my 
small service of helping to provide this meeting place. I am always delighted to hear of others 
adventures on the Path. Finding the Keys will take some hard work, but it aught to be lots of fun 
too. I think sharing is good for the soul. We all are serious about seeking but let's not forget to 
bring our sense of humor. Remember, the middle path. Someone just shared a very funny story 
with me about a honk if you love Jesus bumper sticker. She's kinda shy and hasn't introduced 
herself to the rest of the list. Come on girl tell that one here. If it bombs, you can always say, 
"Rick told me to" (you know who you are).
Love and Laughs,
Rick

Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-4/104
From: "Mindy"
Subject: bumper sticker
Greetings to all,
   It looks as though Rick is trying to tear me out of my lurker mode. Guess its high time I come 
out into the open. So I'll say Rick told me to and share the silly story.
THE WIFE OF THE REVEREND TELLS ABOUT HER DAY
   The other day I went to the local religious book store where I saw a "honk if you love Jesus" 
sign. I bought it and put it in the back bumper of my car, and I am really glad that I did that. What 
an uplifting experience followed.
   I was stopped at the light at a busy intersection, just lost in thought about the lord, and didn't 
notice that the light had changed. The bumper sticker really worked. I found lots of people who 
love Jesus. Why the guy behind me started to honk like crazy. He must really love the lord 
because pretty soon he leaned out of his window and yelled "Jesus Christ" as loud as he could. It 
was like a football game with him shouting "Go, Jesus Christ, Go!" Everyone started honking too 
so I leaned out my window and waved and smiled at all those loving people.
   There must be a guy from Florida back there because I could hear him shouting something 
about a sunny beach and I saw him waving in a funny way with only his middle finger stuck in the 
air. I asked two kids what it meant. They kind of squirmed and looked at each other, giggled and 
told me that was the Hawaiian good luck sign.. I leaned out the window and gave him the good 
luck sign back.
   Several cars behind, a very nice black man stepped out of his car and yelled something I 
couldn't hear very well, but it sounded like Mother something. Maybe he was from Florida too. He 
must really love the lord.
   A couple of people were so caught up in the joy of the moment that they were walking from their 
cars toward me. I bet they wanted to pray. But just then I noticed the light had changed and I 
stepped on the gas, and a good thing I did, because I was the only driver to get across the 
intersection. I looked back at them standing there, I leaned out of the window, gave them a big 
smile and held up my Hawaiian good luck sign as I drove away . Praise the lord for such 
wonderful folks!
Mindy

Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-4/105
From: LeLona Hodges
Subject: Chapter 2
Ok, then, Rick said so.
   I find my life inside this book, The Immortal, in so many many way, to the extent that I can't wait 
to receive the book in the mail and jump to the last page to see what will happen to my life. :)
    As in the book, Chapter 9 or 10, I don't remember which, the evil one roared to Joseph, but the 
true Light within him prevailed. Ditto me. Right after my friend left, after revealing to me that she 
was me, and the lights came on, and I spent 6 months reading the bible from cover to cover, I 
met a group of people that I felt drawn to. Matter of fact, when I went inside their building I knew I 
was "home at last". BUT, about a month later I was in the hospital with something mental. I was 
totally bonko, bonkers, absent. The lights were on but nobody was home. I spent a month in the 
psycho ward, getting no where but drugged. The one of the brothers came to visit, and while 
standing in the doorway of the hospital room my head was suddenly clear. He didn't even know 
what happened, but I knew my hospital stay was over. It took me a week to convince my Dr. that I 
was ok and he could let me out.
   I rushed to the group of people I had met. It wasn't a church, but a community. It was Paul's 
(The Apostle Paul) community, one of many scattered throughout the US. I spent 13 years with 
that wonderful group of people, was baptized and illumined. Father Paul went through transition, 
and the thousands of people he gathered scattered, but the fire in my heart remains to this day. 
Father Paul is not far away.
   But, before everything dissolved, one Saturday I was cleaning the altar and felt such an anger 
coming on, but I couldn't put my finger on it. I went to tell the Priest that I didn't think I could 
continue attending the altar, and when the Priest asked me to sit down and talk, I didn't want to at 
all, but I obeyed. I was asked to imagine Jesus walking down the hallway and entering the room. I 
scoffed at that, jesting and laughing, but the nudging continued until I did. Well, when Jesus, the 
one in my imagination, reached for my hand, things were no longer imagined, but REAL. He was 
real, and I was a 4 year old girl, being taken to a scene in my childhood when and where my 
grandfather committed suicide. I was the only one there with him when he did it. I was the one 
who ran to the house to tell the family. But Jesus kept me calm and looking directly at the scene 
without any emotion at all, just a matter of fact "here's what happened" scene. My grandfather 
was forgiven, as he had no idea that what he did in front of me would affect my life the way it had. 
Jesus healed the wound in me. As I was returned to the current date, I opened my eyes and tears 
flowed so freely and uncontrollably. It took me a good month to not sound like a 4 year old when I 
talked. Later, I found out that that was called a "healing of the memory". After that I was never 
again bothered by mental absenteeism.
   Enough already? It gets better from here, and hasn't stopped getting better and better. That 
point was the beginning of a truly new life. Can you imagine being healed of a memory that was 
so painful that I couldn't possibly remember it? Sounds like Elizabeth, huh?
   Thanks for listening.
LeLona

Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-4/106
From: Isabelle
Subject: Please continue LeLona
   "Enough already? It gets better from here, and hasn't stopped getting better and better. That 
point was the beginning of a truly new life. Can you imagine being healed of a memory that was 
so painful that I couldn't possibly remember it? Sounds like Elizabeth, huh? Thanks for listening. 
LeLona"
   LeLona, you are, by telling your story, bringing my story closer to the surface.. The book started 
the process again for me and now your story is making me put more of the pieces together.
   You asked if anyone here could make themselves disappear or if they knew anyone who could.. 
My brother, once told me that he had walked through a wall.. And I believe he did. Oddly 
enough... his name is Paul.
   He has many other abilities which were so misunderstood that he also was hospitalized and 
drugged.
   Please continue..
I'm listening,
Belle

Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-4/107
From: JOHN KOSIOR
Subject: Re: Our stories and other funny stuff
   Thanks Rick, You saved me some typing, as I thought to respond in the exact spirit that you've 
done here. Open sharing is certainly to be encouraged, and I thank you for your response.
In light,
John

Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-4/108
From: JOHN KOSIOR
Subject: Re: Chapter 2
Hi LeLona,
   Another thank you comes to you. This kind of sharing is what reminds us all that we are sharing 
a common experience. As brothers and sisters are we sharing. In ALL our experiences. I 
understand not wanting to deviate from the intent of studying the keys, but most certainly we will 
all walk into our understanding together. And I wouldn't have it any other way. Thanks for 
sharing!!!
In light,
John

Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-5/109
From: Samu Karlsson
Subject: Re: bumper sticker
   "THE WIFE OF THE REVEREND TELLS ABOUT HER DAY"
   Heheheheheeeeee... :D
   Mindy, big thanks for sharing that lil story, I really needed something hilarious like that today :)
   Giving the peace sign and grinning with de-light!
Samu

Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-5/110
From: JOHN KOSIOR
Subject: The Two Brotherhoods
Good Morning All,
   I'm so glad to be a part of this list, and I am grateful to Wisdom itself for guiding me here. I'd first 
like to say that I sat up late last night in order to read book 1 from beginning to end. I had posted 
earlier that I was trying to catch up on reading, and now I have.
   I have found it very interesting to read from many sources (from the sublime to the ridiculous). 
And first off I would say that I enjoyed this book as much as anything I have ever read. Of course 
you are all aware, by way of the confirmation of your own inner voice, that the Truths found 
therein are wonderful. In way of general overview, the one theme which I find running through 
literally every sacred and non sacred text is this one of conflict. The brotherhood of light and the 
dark brotherhood. The dark and the light. The good and the evil. And the many other "images" set 
forth throughout the history of mankind. Well, if this realm of conflict has been written in every text 
imaginable, then one must conclude that the conflict really does exist, right? Yes, it really does 
exist. But I would like to make a point here. As I search my heart about this theme, it occurs to me 
that in the highest sense, God exists NOT in conflict. (If God is 'All That Is', with whom would He 
be in conflict) Not that God doesn't exist in whatever reality we can devise, but if God we're 
caught up in conflict, it would have to be with Himself. And a house divided against itself cannot 
stand. So in this wonderful book, we have, once again, the opportunity to visualize the "conflict". 
And we are called, each of us, to consider joining the Brotherhood Of Light. Sounds like the right 
thing to do. Why would we desire the darkness? However, in considering the question of who or 
what we are, is it possible that we may make another choice? A third choice if you would. To exist 
in the darkness, the light, AND in the All That Is, simultaneously? Thus rendering "the conflict" as 
what it is, another vehicle. In this way, we see ourselves as part of it all. Denying nothing. Owning 
up to the everything, and rendering it all as ours. I say these things not to contradict, but to see 
True Peace as the total experience of God. And us, if we so choose. I'm also aware here of the 
incredible limitation of words and how we can easily make of this thought, anything we choose to 
make of it. So, in the light of discussion, I would ask each one, if you choose to give this any 
consideration, that you would ask Wisdom to judge the content, and not the words. The way this 
thought comes across to you is extremely important to me, as we are truly in this thing together. 
And I would treasure each viewpoint anyone here may share. Thank you so much for your time 
and consideration.
A Peacemaker,
John

Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-5/111
From: Isabelle
Subject: Schizophrenia
   This quote from a newsletter reminded me of the thread on "mental illness". And Rick reminded 
me of how humor is important... so here it is:
/.\*/.\*/.\*/.\*/.\*/.\*/.\*/.\*/.\*/.\*/.\*/.\*/.\*/.\*/.\*/.\
On the Lighter Side....
   "Why is it that when we talk to God we're said to be praying, but when God talks to us we're 
schizophrenic?" Lily Tomlin
Belle

Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-5/112
From: LeLona Hodges
Subject: Re: The Two Brotherhoods
   John Kosior writes: "Thank you for sharing your deep thoughts after reading the first book. I'd 
like to offer my viewpoints regarding your question "is it possible to make another choice....to 
exist in the darkness, the light, AND in the All That Is, simultaneously?"
   I think we do that all the time at this point in our evolution. I'm not saying conflict is bad. Had it 
not been for my conflict I would have not recognized the difference. Of course, I haven't finished 
Book I yet, but I remember the part where John tells Joseph to laugh at the evilness. And I 
remember dealing with my own evil ones. I wasn't laughing then, but later I was told to love my 
evil one, love it to death. John told Joseph to laugh at it.
   Having recovered and gone on to a brighter side of life, I can say for myself that I'm the one 
who created it all. I'm the one who created my temporary insanity in order to escape the 
responsibilities of my life. I'm the one who created the opportunity to join the family I was born 
into. And I'm the one who judges myself, and I'm the one who frolics in my own creation, whether 
it be of conflict or balance. I am creating my next moment, my next reaction, my next experience. 
I can't say its neither good nor bad, it just IS. I can get out of it any time I want to, even if it's a "so 
called" good experience. Of course, I couldn't have said that a few years ago. My creations had 
more control over me than I did them. But now, when I find myself in a place I don't like I just say 
to myself "I don't want that". It's gone.
   So, sure, we exist in the darkness, the light, AND in the All That Is simultaneously. Does not the 
eye have panoramic vision? Some sights are dark, some light, but all is in consciousness, and if 
something moves across that vision don't you notice it? But, good and bad, light and dark, are 
just words to describe a consciousness of something, a cubby hole we have stuck something in 
because we became aware of it. It still IS.
My thoughts,
LeLona

Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-5/113
From: LeLona Hodges
Subject: Fwd: Brotherhoods
   I took the liberty of forwarding John's message to a friend of mine to see what she would say. 
She's stressing in college right now so doesn't have time to read the book, but I'm always sending 
her tid bits to tantilize her. Anyhow, here's her response. Take it or leave it. She hasn't read the 
book yet, so .... take it or not.
   "I got the forward from John...... Very profound thinking.... The following thoughts are things you 
already know, I know....but it is kind of a "muscle builder" to articulate them....If you want to share 
them with the people in the group you chat with, feel free to do so.... I'd be interested to hear the 
response....(But if that makes you uncomfortable, no problem....) I agree that we need to look at 
the question of Good and Evil as a problem created in the "separate" consciousness of 
Humankind..... I think that is the Original Sin..... We conceived that the creation that was called 
"Good" by the Creator could hold separation. If you look outward to the Universe -- what John 
calls Wisdom -- there is no evil..... Nature does no hold evil. There may be a struggle of Light v. 
Darkness...but it was not a creation outside of Being. There did not exist a separate Being that 
was Evil.... If Being is Good...and created all things "Good," then what we call "Evil" is a human 
scapegoating for the separation Humankind has conceived. What preceded the first instance of 
"evil" -- if we use the allegory of the Garden of Eden story -- was the need for a rule...."Don't eat 
this apple." Humankind should not have needed rules....but rules (probably) already existed. The 
earth turns, gravity will pull you down, etc. So, -- if that story is a true allegory of what went wrong 
-- then the problem already existed -- not as a Good vs. Evil problem, but as a problem with 
Humankind's lack of knowing of their Oneness with Being.... everything else flowed out of that. I 
think Evil is a Human creation..... as co-creators with Being... as Being at work..... and -- as such -
- is Humankind's problem to fix. If there are Brothers of Darkness....they are "human" brothers.... 
not some cosmic Big Bad Guys with one really really Bad Guy in charge. That doesn't make 
sense if we assume that Being/Universe/Wisdom/Light is One... and created/caused all things to 
come into existence. "Behold, the Lord your God...the Lord is One." (to use some archaic and 
sexist language.) Fix Humankind's sense of separation from the inner Light and there will be no 
Evil left. But, struggle endlessly with something "out there" -- outside of ourselves -- that is 
labeled "The Darkness" and the struggle distracts from the true task. When you turn on a light in 
a dark room....there aren't little pockets of darkness in the corners of the room where darkness 
wrestles with the light for supremacy ....BOOM. Let there be Light. And there is. If we struggle 
with an exterior "Evil" we give power to the sense of separation that is the true problem.
   Anyway....another sermon from Soapbox 101.....anyhoot."

Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-5/114
From: J J Dewey
Subject: Hypocrisy???
   Dear Friends, I love reading your posts. I almost feel like standing back and letting the group do 
all the talking but right or wrong I'll add my two cents once in a while. Here's another thought to 
run by you.
   Hypocrisy,
   Rob wrote me a letter that he accidentally sent to the mailing list telling me that he felt 
uncomfortable teaching my writings since he did not know for sure they are true.
   He was worried that this would make him a hypocrite... But does it???
   This word "hypocrite" has been thrown around very loosely because of the great controversy 
surrounding President Clinton. In fact it's use has been twisted around so much that the long 
standing definition of the word is in danger of being redefined.
   I for one hope this does not happen because the current definition is very useful and fair, but by 
the new standards being bandied around we are all hypocrites. This type of thinking is repulsive 
to me.
   For this letter let us go by the current dictoonary definition which is:
   "A person who pretends to be what he is not. One who pretends to be better than he is. One 
who teaches one thing and does another."
   Until one receives a powerful soul confirmation on a principle or teaching it is entirely possible 
that he or she is seeing or understanding with illusion and imperfection. Does this mean he is a 
hypocrite if he teaches the highest good he can embrace?
   Of course not!
   He would indeed be a hypocrite if he claims to be more than he is. For instance, if he claimed to 
be teaching from a point of knowing, but does not know, or claims to embrace but does not 
embrace or to follow but does not follow, but if a person sees something he likes and loves and 
hopes to be true; then feels like sharing it and passes it on this can only be a good thing, 
especially if this seeker does not try and manipulate another into believing the teachings.
   So my advice to all who read The Immortal or any other book or system of teachings is to pass 
them on with you sincere comments and opinion.
   An important key to staying in harmony with your soul is to always follow the highest that you 
know and to make sure that every word that you speak is true to the best of your knowledge. You 
do not have to reveal all you know but what you do reveal should be literally true as you portray it.
   In Proverbs it is written: "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing." Surely God is not a hypocrite 
because He does not reveal all of what He knows.
   The smoker of drinker who quit smoking years ago can teach against these acts with no 
hypocrisy because he has made a change in his life. The true hypocrite would be the one who 
smokes or drinks in secret and pretends he does not do these things yet teaches others to avoid 
them.
   In the New Testament the only ones that Jesus really got angry at were the true hypocrites. 
Read Matthew chapter 23 and you see a very gutsy Jesus attacking leaders who had power to 
take his life

Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-5/115
From: LeLona Hodges
Subject: Re: Hypocrisy???
   JJ Dewey writes: "Rob wrote me a letter that he accidentally sent to the mailing list telling me 
that he felt uncomfortable teaching my writings since he did not know for sure they are true."
   Forgive my boldness, but are your writings true? I do remember in the beginning of the book 
you said part of it was true, or something to that affect, and I've always wondered which part is 
true and which is fiction. Is it true that you met John? In the flesh? Or was it channeled?
   Whatever your answer, or lack of, the book is still WONDERFUL and the teachings true, 
however they came into existence. And I want to thank you for giving the book free on line. I also 
want to thank you for sharing your gift of writing as well as the gifts you were given to write!
LeLona

Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-5/116
From: LeLona Hodges
Subject: Where'd everybody go?
   Maybe I'm the only one who wishes were all sitting around in a circle talking directly to each 
other, and not in separate lives far apart, even separate time zones, waiting for the mailbox to 
open with a letter from one of you guys.
   Belle, how are you doing? What's going on? What's your story? How is this book impacting your 
life?
   Hello Marty! (that is if you're a member of this list).
LeLona

Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-5/117
From: Rick Audette
Subject: Dark vs/ Light
   On the subject of Dark vs/ Light Brotherhoods, I'd like to add my thoughts.
   I felt that the things LeLona's friend said seemed to align with my own ideas. I sure don't think 
that God would create anything that was evil. I also don't think He would, even now, judge 
anything to be evil. I had, long ago, come to the conclusion that man's first "sin" was deciding that 
some things were good (of God) and some things were evil (not of God). If God and Heaven are 
infinite, you cannot have some thing that is not God. If you did, then infinity would become 
something less than infinite, and that just doesn't add up.
   We can, however, because of free will, chose to ignore the Facts and create the illusion in 
ourselves that there is something else that is not part of the infinite God. This illusion is a self 
induced blindness and that's where the darkness comes from. If God is less than All, then there 
becomes "other" Gods. The more of our attention we give to these illusions of God, the more we 
are said to be worshipers of false gods, idolaters. In Truth, I don't even see that this illusion, in 
and of itself, is evil. It's just one of the many lessons to be learned along the way to becoming 
One with God. I think every soul, at some point must go through this. As long as the soul is 
subject to this illusion of separateness and darkness, it is living in a state of sin. As soon as the 
eyes are opened and Oneness is re-established, the sin vanishes. It stands to reason, that if 
everything in the universe is the product of Gods consciousness, then even the smallest of 
quarks must be endowed with a soul. All souls have a built in desire for Oneness. The quark 
souls express this desire by forming collectives, known as sub-atomic particles, which join to form 
atoms, then molecules and ultimately crystals. All of these souls are collectively known as the 
mineral kingdom. After a pre-determined time period, all these little souls, that have learned their 
lessons in Oneness, will graduate, en masse, to become plant souls. These souls group to form 
proteins, sub-cellular organisms, cells, plants and habitats (forests, fields, etc,). Graduation day, 
they become animal souls, which start out at the cell level. Animals, in turn, go on to become 
human. Humans graduate to the next level, etc. until souls reach what we call the God level. I 
think it likely that there is not just one single entity that is God, but rather a Host of billions of souls 
that have reached such a high level of Oneness, that it is impossible for us humans to see them 
as individuals. It also seems likely that there could be higher levels still, but that would be so far 
beyond our perceptions as to seem impossible.
   I have a feeling that the whole good vs bad lessons are unique to the human period of our 
education in Oneness. I also don't see where any kind of eternal damnation could fit into this 
picture. Instead, I think those that don't graduate with the rest of their class are purged of all their 
human experiences and personality ( thrown into the lake of fire) and then join the next group, 
who were animal souls but are now new humans. Now that is my idea of the sort of system a 
perfect, infinite, loving God would create. It is important, to me, that everyone understands, that 
what I have just expounded upon is not what I call a belief. I prefer to call it my hypothesis, 
working theory, or best guess. And to me, having Faith means that I feel that, given the time and 
resources, there is a reasonable chance of proving these theories to be true. So, I have my 
theories, Faith and that which I have already proved into knowledge, but I have no beliefs or 
religion. I could go on for days on this subject, but I guess I'll stop here for now, and give 
somebody else the floor.
   Thanks for letting me share,
Rick

Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-5/118
From: "TwinStorms"
Subject: Re: Where'd everybody go?
   Well, I was waiting to see if I would get any responses from my last post. Alas only one. So I 
thought maybe you all would enjoy this simple little story that I picked up from another list. Maybe 
you already heard it but I think it relates to the keys we are looking for. Love to you all!
   The Creator gathered all of Creation and said, "I want to hide something from the humans until 
they are ready for it. It is the realization that they create their own reality."
   The eagle said, "Give it to me, I will take it to the moon."
   The Creator said, "No. One day they will go there and find it."
   The salmon said, "I will bury it on the bottom of the ocean."
   "No. They will go there too."
   The buffalo said, "I will bury it on the Great Plains."
 The Creator said, "They will cut into the skin of the Earth and find it even there."
   Grandmother Mole, who lives in the breast of Mother Earth, and who has no physical eyes but 
sees with spiritual eyes, said, "Put it inside of them."
   And the Creator said, "It is done."
TwinStorms
AKA 
James Bryan
Whatever you can do, or dream of doing...Begin it.
Action has beauty power, and magic in it... Begin it now.
We are the Makers of Music,
We are the Dreamers of Dreams. (Guess Who said this.)
bryan182@bellatlantic.net
http://members.xoom.com/TwinStorms/
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Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-5/119
From: Rick Audette
Subject: Re: Hypocrisy???
   LeLona asks, "Forgive my boldness, but are your writings true? I do remember in the beginning 
of the book you said part of it was true, or something to that affect, and I've always wondered 
which part is true and which is fiction. Is it true that you met John? In the flesh? Or was it 
channeled?"
   LeLona, I have asked that same question and JJ gave an answer that was very
satisfying. I don't feel I should say what that answer was, on a public forum for the same reason 
that most people don't like it if you tell them "who done it" if you see a movie before they do. I can 
say that it is NOT channeled. It has already been stated, here, that the White Brotherhood rarely 
uses this form of communication. When you find out the rest of the answer, remember, there are 
still lots of folks that haven't read the book yet. We wouldn't want to spoil the mystery for them 
now would we?
One (who can keep a secret),
Rick

Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-6/120
From: "d.linen"
Subject: Questions
   When I was reading the first book (and second one too), I thought of questions as I read. The 
questions are gone now; I should have written them down as I was going along in the books.
   There is the part where Elizabeth has brought her illness upon herself. I can relate to this 
personally as I have done much the same. I was in a bad car wreck where I was seriously injured 
from head to foot. Needless to say, it slowed me down greatly. My last thought as my head flew 
toward the windshield, was; "This is it!" Now I almost always wore my seatbelt and shoulder 
harness but this particular day I didn't. (I get almost panicky if I can't wear one now.)
   I recovered fairly well but it did take a long time. One Saturday I was cleaning house in 
preparation for my boyfriend coming to dinner and raced into the house and was stopped short 
when my foot was caught in the mini-blind cord. It was like someone lifting my foot off the floor 
and I had to fall. I reached out with my left arm and dislocated my elbow and this was a very 
painful injury. Again I recovered.
   Several years ago, I was visiting a friend when I started to get in my car; my right foot was 
inside and the parking brake released and the car started rolling down the slope. I was slammed 
to the pavement and dragged out into the street. The upshot of this one is that I almost lost my 
left arm. I had 4 major injuries from that one. I had almost 3 years of physical therapy to learn 
how to use my arm again. This is the "accident" that made me do a LOT of reflection. It REALLY 
slowed me down this time. There was no hurry up and get well here. I had really done a big job of 
nearly losing it all. I had to learn patience and a lot of it too. So of the things I was still allowed to 
do, reading was among them. I think I've always been a thinker and a searcher of truth.
   Getting on the internet has really opened up doors. The amount of information that is available 
out there is immense. On various lists I've been on, I have found new friends and learned new 
things/ideas.
   All of this searching seems to have landed me here in the Keys of Wisdom list and I feel at 
home at long last with my family.
Diane

Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-6/121
From: LeLona Hodges
Subject: Re: Hypocrisy???
   Rick Audette writes: "I have asked that same question and JJ gave an answer that was very 
satisfying. I don't feel I should say what that answer was, on a public forum for the same reason 
that most people don't like it if you tell them "who done it" if you see a movie before they do."
   Well, Rick, you can always email me privately.....:)
LeLona

Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-6/122
From: LeLona Hodges
Subject: Re: Questions
   Thank you so much for your story. I know how disappointed I am when I have poured my heart 
out to a mailing list and no one responds, so even though this will be short I want to respond to 
your email.
   You've had quite a few "accidents", that's for sure. I've only had one car accident, and then my 
frustration flared when a person who I respected greatly asked me "why did you do that?" At the 
time I didn't understand the question, and it made me angry.
   I think if we are listening to the voice within we will follow the instructions for ourselves, and that 
it's only when we choose not to listen that something has to happen to get our attention. Just like 
in the Book I where I was reading about choosing the road to either heaven or hell, we always 
have a choice to make, and even when we have made that choice we still have a choice of what 
we will do when we get there.
   I love the new idea (to me, anyway) about God is BECOMING, rather than I AM THAT I AM. I 
used to think that that meant I am that, I am there, I am everywhere, I am that one, I am no one, I 
am just because I am, and I don't need a reason to BE, I just am. But I think BECOMING is more 
appropriate, because I am not who I was yesterday, certainly not who I was 10 years ago. This 
definition reminded me of a definition I heard once, and it goes like this: "MAN IS GOD IN MAN 
BECOMING GOD".
   Thank you for sharing. I'd like to hear from all the lurkers, just an introduction if nothing else, to 
find out who all is here. Maybe I know you from another list?
LeLona

Post No. keys-1: /1998-11-6/123
From: "d.linen"
Subject: Re: Questions
   LeLona Hodges wrote: "I think if we are listening to the voice within we will follow the 
instructions for ourselves, and that it's only when we choose not to listen that something has to 
happen to get our attention."
   Yes, I think this is the reason I was stopped up short; to get my attention and get on the right 
path. I have not understood what my "job" in life is/was. I have asked many, many times.....what 
am I supposed to do? Am I a teacher? Or just a student? Life for me has been a learning situation 
from the day I was born.
   When I had the car wreck, I asked "why me?" "I must have been really bad in another life to 
deserve this." And that's probably so. But what I have to do is deal with what I am given to 
experience in this life. I read the Seth books too and believe that we create our own realities.
   I am becoming that which I decide to become. I like that statement a lot.
Diane

Post No. keys-l: /1998-11-6/124
From: JOHN KOSIOR
Subject: Re: Fwd: Brotherhoods
Oh man!
   I love this post. There is so much said that could be discussed for a very long time. And it has 
been. Inside of each of the ideas conceived, there are a million thoughts that each of us, at one 
time or another, has thought. This is our creation. And we DO love to talk about it. And more than 
talk, we like to experience it. To "see" what it's like to walk on the "dark" side. To walk as the 
Light. To be a philosopher AND a scoffer. To prosper AND to fail. To be, and even not to be. (If 
that were possible.) There is a point within my original post that has not been picked up on. And 
this too is as it should be. For that point, when accepted, might seem to bring an end to the 
controversy (the conflict), and that might seem to have the effect of ending our fun. Of course, it 
won't "end" the controversy. The controversy is a vehicle, and we'll never lose the vehicle, at least 
not until we arrive at the desired destination. Where/whatever that may be.
   So, back to that original post. The "point" that I am referring to lies not in the words of that post, 
but in the spirit behind the post. This is why I asked for each to judge/discern the content, and not 
the words. And once again, I am faced here with the incredible limitation of words, (especially just 
a few of them) to express what it has taken mankind a very long time to re-member. But hey, 
that's why we're all here. To express, in our own unique ways, the fruit of our experience. And for 
each of these thoughts/words/deeds/experiences /events/etc. to congeal into one very highly 
polished, multi-faceted jewel, which is how it was in the beginning. So here's another thought 
from John. (Me, not the apostle)
   The question I posed in the first post was What if we could make a third choice? That being to 
exist within the dark, the light, and the "All That Is", simultaneously. But the statement just prior to 
the question is the key to answering the question. That statement was, "in considering the 
question of who or what we are". Now whether or not we have adequately settled that question is 
paramount to answering the second. But let's imagine for a moment that we have received that 
key. Let's say (for purpose of discussion) that we are one thought/expression/body/etc. of the 
Source. The Infinite creates a countless number of agents/facets of itself and projects this 
multitude into the illusion of a separated universe. Let's say that the purpose of doing so is to 
allow each of it's parts to "experience" one part it's "knowledge". So each of us, (each essence of 
God-knowledge) walks into the illusion, forgetting for a moment that we can never be separated 
from the All That Is, and begins to experience the endless number of possibilities of the 
thoughts/expressions of God/All That Is. If we consider the world, or illusory universe, we can 
"see" that we as a whole, have walked down most every road imaginable. We are, or have been, 
Light AND Darkness, Good AND Bad, and every variation in between. Now imagine that quite 
possibly for many of us, there is only one experience we have yet to walk into or witness. L