Boise Gathering 2008, Part 14

This entry is part 14 of 15 in the series Boise Gathering 2008

Higher Worlds

Look at what Russia is doing right now; it is just screwing things up. We thought we were heading for a kind of a stable world and now all of a sudden we are destabilized again.

Audience: Did Russia just arbitrarily invade the country of Georgia?

JJ: Russia said that on the borders that they claimed certain territory and Russia is just reclaiming what is theirs. That is the same reason Hitler gave for invading Poland. “I must go to Poland and protect my Germans.” It seems like every time we make some progress and inch toward a little stability then something else happens. The dark brothers never rest and let them selves get walked over. If we make progress in one area than they have a plan to sabotage us in another area. I really think that Vladimir Putin has deteriorated a lot. I think he was not such a bad guy when he first got into office but I think something has got a hold of him.

Audience: He is not Prime Minister anymore.

JJ: No but he is still calling the shots and he arranged it so it appears that he is not in charge but he is still very much in charge.

In the higher worlds, the mental worlds, everything goes a lot faster and there is much more creative energy and there is connection with the formless worlds. This is called the worlds of thought composed of mental matter. There is physical matter, astral matter and mental matter and they all create forms. And the forms in the world of the mind can be created instantaneously. The people there, especially in the higher realms, are very close to the formless worlds and they can pull down ideas and work through humanity and help humanity make progress along the path of creation.

Above the mental worlds is the formless worlds. They are called formless because they are like energy worlds and does not mean they are like a void. Probably the best way to relate to them is think within your mind of how you are thinking when you are in a state of meditation thinking of different ideas. The world of ideas is formless and does not have any real form that you can grab a hold of and hold in your hand but it is formless yet it creates the original form. So the higher worlds are formless yet they originate form. Now these higher worlds are interesting to contemplate because there is not a lot of knowledge given out about them.

JJ is on a chalkboard drawing.

But you have the worlds of form down here and here is the world of intuition and the world of intuition is really a carrier of ideas. It is not where the ideas originate. The next world up is the Atmic and then the next world up is the Monadic and finally the Divine. Now the Buddha himself, his consciousness went as far as the Atmic. This is where Nirvana is; this is called the Atmic even though the lower is called the Buddhic plane in esoteric writings. Buddha went a little higher then that and Nirvana is achieved at the atmic plane. The atmic plane is where ideas originate. The Divine plane is one space, the Divine plane is one and what is one that corresponds to it?

You look up at the night sky and what is one is space, there is only one space, there are not two spaces or spaces; there is only one space. And how many things are in space?

Audience: Wow, a lot!

JJ: Yes, an unlimited number that is beyond our imagination to count. And on the Divine plane is a higher representative of space – it is space on the higher planes. We have space here on the lower planes and this is a representation of space on the higher planes. And this is called the Divine and from the Divine plane the Monads appear and they appear like little points in space, like stars, so when we look at space and see the stars are kind of like little monads appearing. They are much bigger than monads from our point of view. The monads are like little points of light in Divine space and each one of these is a living entity that eventually becomes human through one process or another.

Now the atmic is where the monads descend on the way to the lower spheres. There they assume a self-awareness and they begin to progress toward individuality. The atmic plane is where all ideas originate. All ideas of forms, all ideas of creation; all ideas of worlds originate here. The consciousness of the beings that live on this plane, is so far removed from ours that it is hard for us to fathom what it would be like to live there. They are like Divine contemplators.

Now the ideas then filter down to the intuitive level and the ideas are then sent down to humanity. The oneness principle takes place when we can access the intuitive level, because that is where the divine ideas and principles are sent down to us. When we can access this level of consciousness then we begin to access all knowledge of principles and all that God has, all we have to do is look for it.

JJ: The big problem with many seekers is that they do not always ask the right questions. The key to a true seeker is to ask the right question because if you ask the right question you will always get an answer eventually. You must sustain your will to receive the answer.

When I first started reading the scriptures I was about 16 and I read, “ask and you shall receive” so I said okay then I am going to ask for a whole bunch of stuff! So I asked for a whole bunch of stuff and nothing came and I thought well this is kind of strange it says ask and you shall receive. And then I read a another parable that inspired me, it was about this lady that was entertaining guests that Jesus told about and she ran out of bread. It was midnight and she thought I know my neighbor has some bread and I know that I must wake him up and it is inconvenient but I am going to ask him. So she goes and pounds on the door and the neighbor looks at the top window and says, go away, I am trying to sleep, now get out of here. But she kept pounding on the door and said I need bread! The neighbor kept trying to chase her away and she would not go away. And then Jesus says, and then the guy comes down and gives her some bread, not because he likes her and not because she deserves it but because she would not quit asking and she would not go away. So to make her go away he gave her the bread and then Jesus says, “even so ask and you shall receive.” So in other words become a pest to God and become such a pest that pretty soon He will say “well he is not going away so I guess I had better answer him.

So I became such a pest to God and kept asking, and asking and asking and pretty soon things began to come and I thought, “Hey this works!” Sometimes I found that it took thirty years to get the answer and sometimes six months but eventually I have found that everything that I really wanted to know I eventually found out if I did not give up and I kept asking. Asking eventually takes you into the world of intuition and when it comes down through the mind it produces a flash of light and when the flash of light occurs you get what is called “the Ah-Ha” moment. Now how many here have had what I call the “Ah Ha” moment? Where you say, “Ah Ha I see it! Okay most of you have and that is great moment to have when all of a sudden something dawns on you that you have thought about for a long time. Sometimes you will hit yourself on the head and say how come I did not see that earlier.

Like when I told my nephew that there were people under the earth and I showed about half a dozen scriptures about people being under the earth right from the Bible and from the Book of Mormon and in the Mormon scriptures. It was all over the place and this just boggled his mind and he said, “I just had no idea that it says that there are people under the earth and this just blows me away.” And so it is interesting that because he was not looking for it he never saw it and as a matter of fact you will not meet any religious person that says, he I found that people live under the earth in the Bible. Even so, it clearly and specifically says “under the earth.” Now is the Bible right or wrong, that is up for you to decide but it says that in there.

 

Copyright 2011 by J J Dewey

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5 thoughts on “Boise Gathering 2008, Part 14

  1. ‘”(them selves) get walked over. If we make progress in one area (than) they have a”……..themselves and then
    “Buddha went a little higher (then) that a”………than
    “And then I read (a) another parable”……. take out the a

    The people who live under the Earth……are they humans or trolls, or elementals that work with the base of the Earth chakra? What exactly do they do under the Earth, and why doesn’t the Bible explain more on what these people do?

    Ruth

    1. I believe the human intelligences and above that are under the earth are in bodies higher than the physical. DK does tells us of sub human physical beings under the earth, much different than humans, that we are better off not encountering.

  2. At present the world as a whole is being destabilized, JJ what is your angle of vision on this? Could it be that the economy is slowly being more and more destabilized and with more and more violence and protests causing distress among the people it would appear at some point those who are behind the madness will step up and claim to have the answer which of course in truth will be bondage for the many, leaving the few who seek truth a much more arduous path to walk? Or is it possible and anything is possible through The Christ, that the many will begin to awake and realize that the true God, power lay within each individual and when we bind together we will begin the creation of a brave new world?

    Matthew

    1. Much of what is happening is natural cause and effect but it is a race against time as to whether we will have a one world tyranny or a Democratic United States of the world.

  3. JJ
    It was midnight and she thought I know my neighbor has some bread and I know that I must wake him up and it is inconvenient but I am going to ask him. So she goes and pounds on the door and the neighbor looks at the top window and says, go away, I am trying to sleep, now get out of here.

    Tom
    I always thought that waking someone up from their nap was very rude, unless it was urgent. What if I asked my boss (if I had one) for a raise everyday and become like a pest…I would be fired. 🙁
    But, there are right ways to become a pest like with God. So even if it is consider rude, keep asking.
    Thanks JJ for this teaching…I will start asking for the things I really need, but in a non-selfish way.

    🙂

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