Re: Zion

2010-4-10 18:19:00

Martha writes:

"If someone gets drunk and then whips/scalds/pummels family members I will have no problem calling 911 without feeling like I'm becoming the beast. Some of our rules (like DWI) are to prevent these secondary actions and are written with the lowest person (morally or intellectually) in mind. Harmlessness does require us to err on the side of caution if you're a 'fighting drunk.' If you're a loving drunk, have one on me."

JJ:

What you describe does not fall into there category of having a good time and being harmless but in the category I described as creating harm.

Martha:

"And since swearing was mentioned I have a recent example. A person in my home taught a 4 yr old living with me to call me a bitch. It hurt the child as someone called 'grandma' now became a dirty word. It hurt me as it terminated my relationship with this child and I felt shame, embarrassment, shock and hurt. It went on to hurt 6-7 other people in various ways."

JJ:

Again, you say "it hurt," putting this in an entirely different category than just stating a cuss word or two when no one is adversely affected. You can hurt others with words that are very polite also. That doesn't mean we should cease being polite. It means that we need to be careful to avoid possible pain we may inflict upon others.

As far as cussing goes I try and never do such except in private, and then I must admit in times of frustration, or stubbing my toe I will let out a couple. If I thought it was creating harm then I would use "doggone it" instead.