Loving Relationships, Part 5

2009-10-11 03:38:00

JJ:

The name of this class is The Art of a Loving Relationship and the date is September 10th. (1987?) I'm going to surprise a lot of people today because I bet there are a lot of people out there who do not know how to have a loving relationship. On the other hand, it might be a disappointment because they really don't seem that interested in loving relationships, especially when you hear them talk about their spouses as old man, old lady, son of a bitch etc. People don't seem to put a lot of energy into really loving their spouse.

Audience:

"Were you aware that Eckankar was on Saturday night?"

JJ:

Are you aware of the topic he spoke on? At least it's not competing with a loving relationship. We're going to talk about this book (A Course in Miracles) for just a short period of time tonight. If you're going to take any course in a decent loving relationship, this is the book. Why is this Artie? What does this have to do with a loving relationship?

Artie:

"It talks about putting your ego aside and communicating soul to soul. This is what you need to do in a loving relationship."

JJ:

Why is communicating soul to soul so important in a loving relationship?

Artie:

"Because a person is divine when you look at their soul."

JJ:

And how is a person divine?

Artie:

"In reality this person is divine, this person is God, the person is light, love, power."

JJ:

If you hate a person or dislike a person, according to the Course in Miracles, are you hating something that is real or not real?

Artie:

"You're seeing their personality and their personality is not real."

JJ:

Okay, so they hate something that isn't real. Whenever you dislike somebody or have a fight with your spouse, either one or both of you are angry over something that is not. Is everyone thoroughly confused? So, if we're angry over what is not, what is? Therefore is you see the real thing within the person, what do you see?

Audience:

"You see love."

JJ:

What do you feel?

Audience:

"You feel love."

JJ:

Look at Mike here and look at his soul. What do you see?

Audience:

"Love!"

JJ:

That's right. Anybody that you look at and look beyond that which is not real, you will see love. Really, to produce a loving relationship, that is all there is to it. Learn that one principle and you'll never have arguments. You may have a debate but you will never have hurt feelings again. For the rest of your life you will never be hurt, as long as you see what is real. Whenever you dislike somebody and have a feeling or grudge against them, you are feeling a dislike for something that does not even exist. It's unbelievable, isn't it?

Audience:

"And it's a reflection, what you dislike in others is what you dislike in yourself. You're projecting that trait of the personality on the other."

JJ:

I've followed a number of people throughout my life. I've watched my friends and listen to their truisms. Then as I watch them get older, what they criticized others for being, they become themselves. One friend of mine wouldn't go out with any girl who was even a couple pounds overweight. He kept criticizing anyone who was overweight and now this person is overweight. It's not me, by the way. (Laughter) I ran into a person about a week ago who was always 145 pounds and now is about 180.

Audience:

"Don't criticize it or you'll put some on too."

JJ:

What we see in others is really a reflection of ourselves because who created the world that we are in? We create our world. You're here right now because this is part of your creation.

Audience:

"Do you mean we create our own reality and agree to it?"

JJ:

You chose to come to this meeting. You didn't necessarily create me but you were helping in creating the situation that you are in where I am present. So you have come to this meeting and you have helped create the atmosphere.

Right here we have the soul and concerning the subject of the soul are illusions. The Course in Miracles doesn't talk about if they're veils or illusions. The Course in Miracles tries to get you through all the veils in one giant step. The whole course is designed to get you there. The problem is that everybody thinks they're already there. I can hardly find anybody who doesn't think they're centered right in the soul.

They tell us that Jesus is right there in the their heart. The Born Againers might think they're seeing Jesus face to face. Rebirth has become a new age word and born again produces a very similar experience. The experience is very much the same but we have these illusions we have to get through to get to the soul. This is a very important principle.

The average man has not broken through any of them. The average person has not been born again, has not had that rebirth, and has not had any particular spiritual experience in his life. Then he begins to get a little bit more evolved than the average and begins to think there has to be more than just drinking, getting married, making a living, etc. He begins to look and he reaches a crisis point that's called the point of tension.

You cannot break through one of these veils unless you create a point of tension. The point of tension is created by an inflow of energy over a period of time. These veils of illusion have to be broken through by creating a point of tension. On the surface of water we have a tension on the water itself. You cannot even penetrate water itself unless you penetrate that tension. You can put a needle on top of the water and it will float because of the tension of the water. Once it breaks through it will sink. Has everybody tried that experiment of floating a needle on water? Does everybody believe you can do it?

So this is like the point of tension of water. It takes a force to break through. The force is created by the old mantra, which is energy follows thought.

You have to begin to think. Think about your purpose. The average man will start to think, "I'm not forgiven for my sins, I've done a lot of naughty things in my life, maybe I should repent and ask Jesus inside my heart." He starts thinking. He thinks about this stuff and he thinks and he thinks and he thinks until finally the point of tension is reached. When you pull a rubber band so far and you create the point of tension, it will snap. This is what happens. He creates enough tension until the point of tension is reached and all of a sudden the barrier of illusion is broken through. When it's broken through he finds a surge of new energy that he never felt before because he went from one energy level into another energy level, closer to the soul.

The man gets Jesus in his heart and boy, does it feel good. He has found his goal. Then he goes around the rest of his life with a bumper sticker that says I found it. He found this energy right here and it feels really great. It's nice and warm and now he's been born again and he's saved and he's going to go live with Jesus in the next world and all this stuff.

What he doesn't realize is that he's confounded. All he's done is to transfer from one energy level to another. So here he is walking around in this new energy level and he really feels good. He really feels great and he thinks he found it but this is his problem. Because he thinks he found it, it's not with him anymore.

He does not look anymore for a number of lifetimes. Not only one lifetime but sometimes as many as a hundred or several hundred lifetimes he will think he has found it. Then in a certain lifetime he will create another point of tension and go through it again. He keeps finding this energy level here. He keeps finding that and thinking that is it. In so many of his past lives he's thought this is it. Is it? He thinks he's found it but he hasn't. Then after awhile he begins to get frustrated because finding it hasn't really completely satisfied him.

After he spends a number of lifetimes having found it he finds out that he hasn't found it. Then he starts to look again. He begins to look again and begins to think. Instead of just emotionally this time with feeling, he begins to think and open up his mind. Once his mind opens up, he finds a computer programmer in there that's asleep.

When this computer programmer wakes up, then he goes into the next level. He has a higher inflow of spiritual energy. People will go on a mission and say I found it and the born again Christian will say I found it but he will really begin to find something greater than the born again Christian. He'll try to explain it to them and the born again Christian will say, 'yes, I feel that.' He will say I have found a higher energy level but the born again Christian will say, "I have found the highest, Jesus". If you think you found the highest, then we found the same thing. So they'll argue back and forth. This guy will try to explain it to his fellow born againers, the higher energy level he's found. They will just think he's where they are because there's nothing higher than the person who's found Jesus. So this man will be somewhat frustrated and the higher you get up here the more alone you are because there's fewer people to share it with.

  

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