2009-9-3 09:55:00
JJ:
I agree with Sally. It is way past the time to leave Larry Craig alone. After all, what did the guy do wrong? Tap his toe in a stall? How did that hurt you or me? Did it have any effect on his work or his vote?
No.
No one knows for sure if he is even guilty of any wrong doing and if he is it is a misdemeanor -- like a traffic ticket.
And if he is gay, so what? We are supposed to be tolerant of gays, are we not?
Obama and Congress wasting trillions of our dollars and saddling our kids with debt is a thousand, no a million times as egregious as taping your toe in a restroom.
I wish the whole Congress would just sit it out in a stall and tap their toes. If that's all they did for the next few years we would be a lot better off.
"Dkdurrant" wrote:
"Do you stay awake all night or are you a night worker?"
JJ:
I've always been a night owl. I'm more productive at night and usually stay up till 4 or 5 AM. Glad you like my posts and sorry you have to stay up because of pain. If you haven't done so yet Google "natural" or "alternative healing" and add the name of your disease and study some of the pages.
I find it amazing that Lefties who are 100% sure that everything is as advertised with Obama's birth certificate are also 100% sure that Craig is guilty when there is a similar amount of evidence of wrong doing on both sides. I'd call that hypocrisy of the highest order.
Here is a new reference of Obama's birth certificate that really makes you think. I'm particularly impressed since I have had training in detecting forgeries.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDIVEfVGLBQ
GJ:
"How is there any evidence whatsoever to suggest any 'wrongdoing' on the part of the President?"
JJ:
Read this and weep:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/07/atlas-exclusive.html
This is information I was not aware of when we talked about this the other day.
JJ:
Read this and weep:
http://abundanthope.net/pages/printer_3407.shtml
Obama's birth certificate uses an out of order number. Pretty strange.
"Run" writes:
"As for Obama's birth, you defy all common sense. Anyone can look at a picture of his birth certificate. It's widely available on the Internet, although I'd encourage you to start trusting reputable sources."
JJ:
Where have you been? The certificate in this link is what we have been talking about. Here is something else that gives evidence it is a phony.
http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2008/08/proof-barack-obama-birth-certificate-is.html
JJ:
Contrary to what GJ says the copy of Obama's birth certificate has not been certified by Hawaii:
See:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=105817
Here is what they have officially said, however:
"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawaii, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/state_of_hawaii_confirms_obamas_birth_certificate/
Conclusion: The State has a certificate on file but we do not know if the copy released on the Internet is authentic because of inconsistencies on what the original says.
GJ again claims I am getting my facts from Fox News. He is as wrong on this as on most other things. I've heard nothing on Fox about the certificate of Birth being a forgery. I've found the information today just by surfing the web. Blame Google.
"Difoderit" wrote:
"Joseph: GJ claims I am getting my facts from Fox News. He is as wrong on this as on most other things. I've heard nothing on Fox about the Certificate of Birth being a forgery.
http://mediamatters.org/research/200905280018 -- Here you go Joe -- not that you will drop it anyway -- but..."
JJ:
There was nothing on that site saying that Obama's Certificate of Birth was a forgery and even if there were my statement is correct that I have seen nothing about this on Fox News or any other major media. Of course I do not have time to watch everything on every station.
You need to argue with what I do say, not with what I do not say.
"Run" writes:
"Joseph, I'll bet you have tin foil on your head right now, don't you?"
JJ:
And you're probably waiting for the mother ship to come and take you away to the fifth dimension.
JJ:
I keep finding new evidence that the Certificate of Live birth was forged. There's so much that one has to be expecting a Mothership to look beyond it with no consideration. Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scjF5oB-JXk
Again, this is not ironclad proof but it has to raise suspicions in anyone that is not knee deep in partisan dogma and Obama worship.
GJ wrote:
"No Joseph, read what I wrote, I said you were getting your facts from WND and Pam Geller (the sites you listed bright boy) which are far right fringe sites FAR BEYOND the usual wingnuttiness that is Fox News."
JJ:
That's not quite what you said. Here is an exact quote:
"Sorry son, Wing Nut Daily and Pam Geller are not going to cut it, and you claim to not be a Fox news drone yet use these two sources which are much further out on the fringe?"
What does your accusation of me being a Fox News drone have to do with anything unless you are linking them with my post? I'll take your word I misunderstood you but it was an easy thing to do.
GJ:
"His birth has been verified by the proper authorities."
JJ:
Unlike you I am open for the evidence wherever it lies. Give me a reference.
GJ:
"And recently re-affirmed by HR 593 which was voted 'yes' unanimously by the [US] House [of Representatives]."
JJ:
And everything Congress does is ultimate truth. Right. Only for a Lefty when his side is in power.
JJ:
I've been presenting evidence that the Obama birth certificate on the web is a forgery for a different purpose than it appears which is this.
The Left here looks at the small amount of evidence that Craig is a closet gay and they automatically condemn him with 100% certainty.
On the other hand, I present here far more evidence that Obama's birth certificate is faked and what do they do? Even with more evidence for this than they have that Craig is guilty they turn about and say they are 100% certain that Obama is innocent and telling the full truth about his birth.
Obviously the Left only believes what it wants to believe and evidence means absolutely nothing at all -- worse than a fundamentalist preacher who thinks the earth is 6000 years old.
GJ:
"Craig ADMITTED HIS GUILT, how is that not 100%? Convicted, by his own admission, case closed (as is the closet apparently)."
JJ:
That means nothing. 99% of us have had an unjust misdemeanor traffic ticket that was just not worth fighting so we admitted guilt and paid. I'll bet you have had this happen to you yet you assume Craig is 100% guilty for doing what you do.
GJ:
"Obama's birth has been verified by his home state, case closed."
JJ:
Wrong. And I have asked you several times today to show me the evidence and you do not. The State has only said they have a certificate on file that we have not seen The one he presents to the public is not a copy of the original but a certificate of birth which has not been validated. There is evidenced this is forged and may not match the one on file.
GJ:
"It's that fundamentally easy Joe, it has nothing to do with what I 'want to believe.'"
JJ:
It has everything to do with it. At this point in time you would need a revelation from God to be 100% sure on Craig or the Obama birth certificate yet you play God by being 100% sure of your OPINION on both.
I'm the one who is open-minded on both issues and admit I do not know for sure and you call me the fanatic?
Wow. You are a piece of work.
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