Re(2): Youthful Recollections -- Part Eight

2008-6-30 16:14:00

Dan writes:

"Because, as I understand it, once one 'defeats' his Dweller in a lifetime, he is for the most part, not bothered by 'him' again - so this 2nd really major Dweller encounter in 'Lost Key' causes your speculation to become inconsistent with the facts and JJ's teachings about the 3rd Initiation (as I understand them)."

JJ:

The quote posted by Ruth sheds some light on this:

"Yes, the seeker will have many mini encounters until he is eventually forced to confront him head on -- or shall we say the Dweller realizes it must fight for its life and confronts the disciple head-on in an attempt to discourage him.

"Eventually the disciple must overcome The Dweller without the help of his Master.

"The confrontation with the Dweller will be a major event in each life of the disciple until he [The Dweller] is completely neutralized.

"The first major confrontation with the Dweller could happen at an older age but subsequent ones will usually happen before the age of 21."

(http://www.freeread.com/archives/3578.php)

Joseph Smith, for instance, confronted his Dweller but received help from one higher than himself to free himself. Eventually the disciple must wrestle with his Dweller and dominate him. After this happens its power in each life will be diminished. Even so the experience will be difficult, even if the Christ himself should incarnate.

Any new initiation is worked on after the age of 21. Before the age of 21 the disciple retraces his steps.

Dan:

"As an aside, you will also notice that a personal 4th Initiation experience is conspicuously absent from all of JJ's works, fiction and non of a 4th Initiation experience at my prompting not too long ago, in order to give a modern example of what such an experience would be like."

JJ:

You are right. I have written nothing that would relate an experience related to the Fourth Initiation -- but, on the other hand, I have not told you everything either.

  

Suggested Reading:

The Mystery Of Christ & His Coming

Who & What Is An Initiate?