Energy Flow

2008-3-6 15:05:00

John C:

"I am just trying to say I have some knowledge though the soul and you have some knowledge though the soul, so how come they don't agree? How can we bridge the communication and knowledge gap so we can arrive at something we both feel good about? I can't deny the God within, but I can't ask you to deny that same God either. After all, it is the same God in each of us, so why are we not seeing eye to eye?"

JJ:

There are a number of possibilities here which are:

  1. We really agree but there is a miscommunication, which makes it look otherwise. (This is very common among seekers).
  2. Neither of us received accurate soul contact on this issue.
  3. Only one of us has accurate contact.
  4. Both of us has but one or both are interpreting what we received incorrectly or with prejudice.

John C:

"We (John & Thom) have an emotional, mental, and spiritual connection which is incredible."

JJ:

I accept this. It is quite possible you two have had many relationships in the past, which could include husband/wife, parent/child, teacher/disciple, etc. Positive relationships of the past can result in very close relationships in the present irregardless of sex. I felt close to my good friend, Wayne, who has passed, and look forward to meeting him again. I also look forward to meeting Artie again whether it be as the same or different sex.

John C:

"I think you can appreciate the learning phases which our souls took us each through before we met, and after we got together. They are basically what you discussed, only as a same sex couple. I have learned that energy follows thought, but thought cannot continually chase after energy."

JJ:

Thought does not chase after energy, but is influenced by it. Gravity is an energy which influences us and even though energy follows thought, thought does not reverse gravity -- at least not thought in our state of evolution. On the other hand, gravity influences our thoughts and habits every minute. For instance I just placed my coffee cup in a secure location on my desk rather than trying to float it in mid air.

John C:

"You speak of this as a simple change of habit. It's a lot more difficult to change a habit, when it is more than a 'habit.' I tried to change a 'habit' for 13 years, and through the birth of four children, but that 'habit' just wouldn't go away."

JJ:

Nothing to disagree with so far. Let me clarify. I didn't say that being gay is a habit, but that we carry over from one life to the next various habits and attachments. This applies to all whether gay or straight.

If a gay person seeks to change his sexual orientation, and he is near the zero point, it will be more difficult than changing a habit like quitting smoking. When you quit smoking for a time you eventually eliminate most of the nicotine from your system and the desire for a cigarette changes considerably.

The problem for the gay person is if he forces his orientation to change the latent energy and desire remains unchanged. There is no nicotine to get out of his system to make a permanent change easier.

If one is born near the zero point with close to a zero charge then he will carry over thoughtforms and some desires from the previous life. He will not be able to will himself to be attracted to the opposite sex because his new charge is not strong enough. Those who are not familiar with these teachings will either just accept their same sex attraction or fight it with some confusion and frustration the rest of their lives.

No matter what he does change is coming and if he has made a switchover from one sex to another that energy will increase and eventually the person will sense it and go with it. By the second lifetime after the switchover the energy becomes strong enough to identify with. There are exceptions of course.

I have always advised gays to search within and sense which direction the energy is shifting. He must ask if he is moving toward a greater female or male charge. The answer is always one or the other for no one stands still in this changing universe.

John C:

"But, you are saying that gay's can't have contact with the higher impressions of the soul?"

JJ:

WOW! Where did you get that? I have said the opposite. I have said the gay person is closer to the zero point and actually has a less distracted access provided he is true to his soul.

John C:

"But, it is beyond devastating to learn that we as a unit, just as we are, brought together and kept together by the Spirit, have to dilute the sacred energies which we share by changing our relationship by adding somebody else so that it is acceptable to you."

JJ:

You are doing this now and I doubt that it dilutes anything. I assume you have associates at work that you labor with. Doe this dilute your relationship with Thom?

In the molecule I will work with people besides my wife and gays will work with people besides their partners for the purpose of making it work. This will be similar to you working with an associate to make a piece of software work.

You seem to see that working with anyone besides Thom would be a loss but we will all have to work with others in the real world.

A battery cannot work without the correct use of the two polarities. Male and female are two polarities that must be considered to create the correct energy flow. This energy flow has nothing to do with soul contact. Soul contact merely allows one to see the principle.

Let us suppose you and Thom were in a molecule together and were in the same Triad of three males and three females. You and Thom could still get your heads together and share ideas as much as ever, but the other four people would also need to be included in their proper place. The Molecule is a place of spiritual labor, not a romantic situation. Intimate communication with romantic interests should be done outside of the molecule.

John C:

"The kind of energies I would be expected to share between me and my 'working [female] partner,' would be the same energies that I now share with Thom."

JJ:

I would hope not. It should be more on the level that you now share with associates in your current work.

John C:

"But, that is not acceptable to us. A relationship is nothing more or less than the agreements and the energies which flow between the members of the relationship. Adding a 'working partner' would be tantamount to changing our relationship or breaking it up, and as I said, we were told that the key to our success was to stick together as a couple."

JJ:

You seem to be looking at the Molecule as a place to have intimate emotional interplay. That is not its purpose. The spiritual energy a working molecule will draw down will be completely inclusive and there will be no sense of loss connected with it for all will have an equal share. Your joy with various members will be the same as with your partner.

John C:

"I don't have to ask whether or not we can enter the Kingdom of God. The only think I want to know is whether YOU think we can enter the Kingdom of God, and whether others here feel the same."

JJ:

Anyone who follows his soul will enter the kingdom of God.

John C:

"It wouldn't be the Kingdom of God unless all who are prepared to enter it are accepted without reservations by all other members. It also wouldn't be the Kingdom of God unless all have soul contact, and where everyone can see eye-to-eye, where the inner God speaks with the same voice to one and all."

JJ:

There is one criteria for membership in a molecule and that is soul contact and that others feel that contact in each other. Once this is done there should be complete acceptance of each other on a soul level, even though there will be differences of opinion in areas where the soul has not spoken to the group.

John C:

"True, but why am I put in a position where I have to justify to the rest of you that I in fact know what I know, and am just as entitled to a place in the kingdom as the rest of you?"

JJ:

I do not think you are in that position. I don't see anyone demanding you to justify anything. Some will disagree with you on certain items, but they disagree with me much more often than with you and I feel no need to justify myself. People can take or leave me. I care not.

  

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