Re: Civil War & More

2008-2-8 19:25:00

Blayne wrote:

"The government is servant to the people and the people are its master even if the people are wrongly enslaving others."

JA wrote:

"What happened to the shining example or the Ensign America is to other nations? If the war would not have been fought America would not have become the example it is today if for no other reason then the time it would have taken to get to the level of freedom it is at today. Plus the actions America took during that time therefore setting an example. There is risk in all things or opposition in all things, I think that is a fact of life.

"So if people choose to break the law set by the government then it is justified because the people are the master of the government?

"That would be a journey into irresponsibility, is that what this is really about? The fear of that? What happened to the shining example?"

JJ:

Good point JA. This is indeed an amazing statement by Blayne and it reveals a potent path to many illusions.

Let's see how this applies in different situations.

The Confederacy:

"The government is servant to the people and the people are its master even if the people are wrongly enslaving others."

It sounds like the Blacks are not considered people here. In fact a main point of debate in the Confederacy was whether or not they had souls.

How were the blacks who were definitely people masters of the government when the government was enslaving them?

If we apply this principle today then it would be OK if white people used government to their advantage and passed a law saying that all Chinese people had to be branded on the forehead and work for ten cents an hour.

If a black and white Ron Paul following of the Constitution leads to the support of slavery then we need to rebel against it and write it anew so human liberty is clearly enough defined so even Ron Paul followers can understand it and be lead away from their acquiescence of slavery and tyranny.