Grieving The Spirit

2005-12-9 11:12:00

Quoting JJ, Steve first writes:

"The soul has a life on its own plane which is not affected by our failures here."

Steve then asks:

"May I ask in relation to the above quote, what is 'Grieving the Spirit'? I have no problems with guilt, so was wondering what Paul in The Bible would have been talking about."

JJ:

You are probably referring to this scripture:

"And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption."(Ephesians 4:30)

Many times throughout history even the great teachers have referred to the emotions of God in several ways. They have said things like:

"God will be sad if you do this."
"You are offending God."
"God will be happy if you do this."

Now what applies to God applies to the Holy Spirit for the three aspects of God are as one.

The higher lives including the solar angels have a fullness of joy and nothing can disturb this. For one thing just imagine the chaos if it could be disturbed. They commune through the Oneness Principle and through this they can tune into any life on the earth.

At any given moment:

Millions are suffering starvation.
Millions are emotionally devastated and been hurt by their fellow men and women.
Millions suffer great pain through disease.
Millions are suffering in spirit through tyranny.

Now imagine if the higher lives had to tune into all this at one time, or even one suffering life over an extended period. The distraction would be so great that they would not be able to accomplish their own work.

They are aware of suffering but do not tune into it and are not effected negatively by it. If suffering is in your future, but that suffering will guide you toward higher evolution, then nothing will be done by the higher lives to warn you or remove the suffering. The removal will be up to you. When you learn what you are supposed to learn then higher lives may assist in alleviating your pain, but not before.

Holy men have spoken in the past of grieving the Spirit, even though the Spirit cannot suffer grief. The reason they spoke this way is it seems at times as if the Spirit if grieved.

A person may have advanced soul contact and receive information through the Spirit of a wrong direction a close associate is taking and receive an impression of the suffering that awaits him. This knowledge filtered through his personality makes it feels as if the spirit is grieving. The truth is the disciple himself is grieving while being touched by the Spirit. It will feel very much to him like the Spirit is grieving.

The Spirit will warn us of problems in the future if it aids in fulfilling higher will and does not interfere with evolution. When this happens it has to produce a negative feeling within us so we will interpret the impression correctly. In this case the Spirit creates a negative feeling within us, but not in itself. The disciple may thus say to himself, "the Spirit or soul is upset."

But it is not upset. Your Solar Angel knew many of your future problems the day you were born and if it could be effected by them in its timeless world it would have been effected or grieved way back then.

When the fullness of the Oneness Principle is achieved the seeker will then know of a surety concerning that consciousness which cannot be touched by pain, neither by grief, discouragement or sorrow.

"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." (Revelation 21:4

"Imagine there's no countries, it isn't hard to do; nothing to kill or die for, and no religion too. Imagine all the people living life in peace."
-- John Lennon (1940-1980), "Imagine"