Finding Truth

2005-7-10 14:37:00

NS writes:

When Jesus said. You shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free ...

Did he mean the infinite truth of everything? That means u have all talents potential and the ability to fulfill all desires.

Truth comes in layers and each layer brings additional; freedom. Sometimes it's a little like traveling through a maze. It is useful and brings freedom of movement to know the next turn, but useless to speculate on the turn several corridors down.

This is what brings frustration to disciples in that they do not assess their correct placement on the path and spend their time solving the problem where they will be in lifetimes distant rather than the present.

Each of us must solve the equation of where we are now, not where we will be in our imagination.

And how will we know what it is we are supposed to solve in the present?

It is usually moist obvious to those who are closest to us but often the disciple is oblivious. Why? Because his friends will often assess his place on the path better than himself. Often because of ego he either has a messiah complex, assumes he is on his last life or close to being a master. Then others are not satisfied with normal progress which is often slow and wants to take a quantum leap which is just not within his reach.

Again, the disciple must follow the highest he knows and do all within his power to assess the next step correctly.

NS:

Does it mean we can see the truth and have no more ignorance whatsoever? Our understanding being complete. Having no more to discover about what is true.

No, it does not mean this. There is never an ultimate truth. As one tunes in to the Oneness Principle the door to all truth becomes available, but even here it has to be absorbed bit by bit principle by principle into his consciousness.

NS:

Is it possible to be able to understand all of truth. which is unlimited. and infinite.

It is possible to understand anything. It is merely a matter of focusing attention in the right direction. For instance, if you want to learn algebra you do not begin by focusing on the second year course, but the beginning. As long as the disciple starts focusing at the beginning he will have success.

NS:

Or do we have to struggle from trial and error and earn it bit by bit, by constantly looking for it in our blindness.

This is what must be done until soul contact is achieved. Determination and power of will is one of the main achievements of this process.

NS:

I don't understand how I experience consciousness or what the little cells are doing. Or what the macrocosm is doing. Even with your explanations it is not clear to me. I don't know for sure much at all. Only possible theories.

Its not theory that great intelligence is programmed into your body which is working away just as it is in your computer. It makes no difference whether you understand how your computer or your cells work. They still do their job.

NS:

I am still thinking maybe my physical form is creating consciousness and when it dies I will have no consciousness.

After a realization of say 'the infinite unchanging truth' It would seem all there is to do is play, and enjoy your freedom, which is gained from this.

There is no ultimate truth, there is only the doorway to all truth which we continue to absorb through eternity.

NS:

How do you gain truth? when u just don't know it? How do you gain light? when you just don't have it? How do you gain higher more complex, and larger consciousness? when u just don't have it?

Follow the highest you know until you obtain soul contact. Never give up.

You always gain that upon which you focus attention and do not take it off.

When I was young I decided I wanted to write both the words and melodies to songs. Writing words was pretty easy, but how do you write a melody? There's no instruction for this. I had no idea how to do such a thing, but I focused my attention on it. For a long time nothing happened and then one-day new melodies started coming to my mind.

Why did they come?

Because of the power of focused attention and following the highest I knew even though I seemed to be groping in the dark.

NS:

How can you ever know for sure what is true?

When it registers with the soul and you find through the experience that it works as it is applied to reality.

NS:

The simple answer of: through soul contact, or the oneness principle. It does not do anything for me. Because I don't know what that is or how to find it. So please no-one give me that answer I am bored of it. All I get so far from looking within is a feeling of blankness. Like my brain cannot process or know what it doesn't know.

Your brain knows how to reason. Start with that and follow the highest reason you have. This will lead you to soul contact. It is important you start where you are. When you are making real progress you will have a good internal feeling about it no matter where you are on the path.

NS:

Also many things I read from JJ, I have no idea where he gets it. At times it almost seems like he is making it up himself, and just guessing. It confuses me when there is no solid logical reason or no evidence to back up what is being said.

Any principle I reveal will be logical and have powerful reasoning behind it. All truth is logical. Most people stay here on the list because that which I teach is logical as well as spiritual.

NS:

It makes me feel like I am in a more complex sort of religion, with slightly more interesting and better quality answers. Like when the bible is being interpreted by JJ he is doing the same thing that in the way he is twisting it to his take on it, by inserting words and explanations to it that at times seem unrelated to the original text.

I usually interpret much closer to the original text than any translations of the Bible out there. Perhaps you could give me an example.

NS:

... just the little things like "and the moon shall not give her light" [ A victim cannot even see the moon] ... that sort of thing is a bit of a stretch for me.......

I have no idea what you are talking about here.

NS:

Another example like what was explained about the ones who see the devil under every rock and how they interpret it. How is JJ's approach any different other them him seeing it as his view?

I do not see the devil under every rock.

NS:

I just have a lot of questions for me personally that no one seems to be able answer. And if they do it leads to more questions.

All questions correctly answered lead to more questions. For example every time NASA makes a new discovery more questions surface than they originally had.

NS:

And me trying to understand, until finally they give up on me. and say that's just how it is. If you don't believe it or know what I'm saying then its your problem. And I am left with the same questions because I was unable to process and come to a solid logical conclusion that I feel inside is truth. Instead I add it to the countless possible theories and thoughts I have floating around. but very little is solid truth that I know.

Keep your attention focused on the two or three (or even one) important things. If you have too much floating around in your mind your attention will be scattered and you will discover nothing.

NS:

To have solid truth is to have faith and I can only have true faith when I KNOW.

When you know then no faith is needed. Faith is a means to discover truth so you can know.

NS:

I want Christ consciousness. I have no idea how I am supposed to get it. Or that it really exists. And it does not seem likely I will achieve it.

If one can achieve then all can achieve. The path is simple. Follow the highest you know, focus and do not give up. Breakthrough doesn't come in a big leap but one step at a time.

NS:

However I have noticed in myself an increased awareness about what it is I should be aiming for. And how it is I should be feeling within myself, that is towards this higher consciousness. For example the basic things. Like spiritual love. The conquering of glamour, maya and illusion.

Sounds like you are taking steps. Keep moving.

NS:

I am constantly asking for guidance to this, nothing dramatic has being revealed. The most I have really felt is a few high moments here and there where I saw beauty in the way things were moving around me like it was, the only way I could explain it is playing of music, or playing of purpose all around. like a rhythm.

All things come to he who endures to the end as the Master has said.

Some theoretical scientists say that "one extra atom" at the birth of the universe could have wiped out entire galaxies, or even the whole cosmos. If one atom is that important then consider yourself who is made of billions of atoms.