Pieces of the Puzzle

2004-1-8 06:20:00

Glenys writes:
I wonder if you've considered any other possibilities to explain the similarities in handwriting, or is reincarnation the only explanation?

The reason I'm asking is that the teaching that HPB became a Master in 1924 comes from an exceptionally highly regarded source and has remained unchallenged for 70 years.

JJ:
In line of authority I trust:

(1) My own soul
(2) My common sense
(3) Inspired writings, scriptures, DK etc.

I don't care who says what if it does not line up with my soul and the logic of the mind.

Why are you inclined to trust this source?

Actually a number of people have given other lives for H. P. Blavatsky including the web page you posted which had her as Sybil Leek. This does not register at all with me for H. P. Blavatsky was much more intelligent than Sybil.

I did think that about half of his guesses were possibilities though.

The idea that Madonna was Marilyn Monroe is fairly far fetched though figuring that Marilyn was alive when Madonna was four. However, when we consider the doctrine of walk-ins all things become possible - though this one is not probable.

Glenys:
What if it is correct and HPB did become a Master and the Hierarchy gave him (because he would have been a 'him' at that stage) a special task of guiding and 'mentoring' someone who was to play a key role on the political scene i.e. JFK. If it occurred then maybe it was a bond as close as overshadowing.

I wonder if this possibility, if it occurred, could have resulted in JFK taking on some characteristics of HPB, including her handwriting. I thought of this as I wondered whether Jesus' handwriting would have changed after he was overshadowed by the Christ.

JJ:
An overshadowing does not effect the handwriting to any significant degree. The original entity still owns the body, is in charge and does not undergo any personality change other than that of slow evolution. There is only a personality change when there is a walk in situation where the body is vacated by the original entity. In this case the new entity would assume the memory of the original occupant and duplicate many of his personality characteristics for a time, but make numerous changes over the next ten years.

A close look at the evidence I have presented testifies that that chances are extremely high that the two entities are the same person.

Glenys:
Just trying to fit the jigsaw together :-)

JJ:
That's what you have to do, but one must go with the pieces that fit.

Glenys:
While I find your handwriting analysis quite compelling, I cannot believe that JFK was as advanced as HPB - or more intelligent.

JJ:
The handwriting shows JFK had a slight edge in most departments - which makes sense if he was a later incarnation. He was a little quicker thinker, had a little sharper wit, had a little more courage, was a little more difficult to fool, was a little more organized, was a little clearer thinker - just a slight edge in most factors. This does not negate the fact that both were highly intelligent. Overall, by using our normal standards of intelligence JFK was our most intelligent president and one of the most intelligent entities in our history.

Was he more intelligent than Lincoln? By normal standards, yes, but Lincoln was the type of person who had an intelligence that was not obvious. He didn't have the natural ability that JFK or H. P. Blavatsky did, but he had an inner spiritual perception that made up for it. Lincoln had the same problem as Bush, in that he was accused by many as being stupid, but they underestimated the spiritual intelligence that was below the surface.

Glenys:
One only has to compare the significance of their works to see that. HPB's work made the new age possible. JFK was a great statesman, perhaps even a great man, but his legacy is nowhere near as important as HPB's.

JJ:
The significance of one's work and their intelligence is two different things.

One may be a master at his profession and even famous and then the soul may lead him in a new direction of learning in his next life. Because he is entering new ground he may have little success. For instance, it would be unfair to say Bob in one life could not be the Master composer of a past life because he failed art painting. He may need a couple lives to develop the new talent.

Even so, it is quite possible that JFK's short presidency was more important than the mission of HPB. Consider the Cuban Missile Crisis. It is quite possible that we would have had a nuclear war if a lesser man was in charge. If JFK did lead humanity away from this development then he fulfilled one of the greatest of destinies.

In addition he initiated the Peace Corp, the mission to the moon and civil rights legislation that passed after his death in his honor. Three significant accomplishments. But beyond this he initiated a new optimism that infected the whole world. The White house of his era was called Camelot, signifying that the world soul recognized him as an initiate from the Camelot of old.

Glenys:
Perhaps he was cut off in his prime for a greater purpose and so never got a chance to take his 4th but that is pure speculation and so we can't know for sure. If we are speculating we could also say that HPB did take her 4th but there is no record of it.

JJ:
It's possible that H. P. Blavatsky was a 4th degree , but if she was there was no evidence that was passed down or even hinted at. It is unlikely that one who has passed the Great Renunciation would be so addicted to cigarettes to the extent that it would ruin her health.

Glenys:
While Helena Roerich isn't as accurate as AAB (I think you gave her a 7 rating from memory) one wonders how she could be *so* wrong about HPB's subsequent incarnation.

JJ:
A seven can still make many mistakes. I think she was given a mission, but she made the mistake of tapping into some of her own thoughtforms and coming up with some misinformation. Again this is why it is so important to trust your own mind and soul above all others - even your humble servant.

"You never attract that which you want but always that which you are." Neville