Master Thoughts

2003-8-30 17:12:00

Felix:
The information that Saddam was injured and shortly killed after his injury comes from the Master who is the Master of Benjamin Creme.

JJ:
It's funny, as I was writing the questions about your source I assumed you were working with some channeler. I even mentioned a "her" figuring that channel would be female, as most of them are. Then just as I was about to send the post, the name Benjamin Creme came into my mind and at that point I was sure that this was your source and added a couple lines to that effect.

I about kicked myself for not realizing it sooner because it makes so much sense. For one thing, it really explains why you came to the list with only negativity about so much that is good in the world. I am familiar with Creme's vibration and some of did rub off on you.

Felix:
I came across Benjamin Creme and his "Maitreya's Mission" books three years ago, about 2 years after i came across the Alice Bailey books. The Truth in the books is the Truth that i know, as a soul. For those of you unfamiliar with Benjamin Creme, you can check out www.shareintl.org ...Creme is at the forefront of the Reappearance work. For clarification - Maitreya is the name of the Christ - the word "Christ" being a term for the office that this entity holds currently. He is the World Teacher for this age of Aquarius. He is the awaited Coming One. So let not the name "Maitreya" confuse you to His real identity.

The search in the archives for "Benjamin Creme" didn't turn up much at all, it just turned out to be a mild form of slander towards him and his service. You say that, "Glenys mentioned Benjamin Creme. I remember the first time I read the "words of Christ" as they were revealed through him. They left me completely flat. No new knowledge, principles or wisdom."

....I disagree JJ. Maitreya's messages are filled with much hope and wisdom. When Maitreya talks about sharing and the need to share the world's resources, is this not a principle? When Maitreya talks about how He and all of Humanity are One, is that not a principle? Please give the Maitreya writings another and fairer chance to resonate within you.


JJ:
As I have written many times, the key to the discovery of a true teacher is to look for the revelation of new principles or further light on revealed principles.

A principle reveals why something works, why laws apply and why certain data is true.

Here are two points you put forth to illustrate that Creme reveals principles:

First
"When Maitreya talks about how He and all of Humanity are One, is that not a principle?"

This is a platitude, thousands of years old, taught by Jesus and Masters before him.

"That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me." John 17:21

Also, DK wrote "The sons of men are one and I am one with them."

Repeating a teaching from the past that is so old that it has now become a platitude is not the revelation of a new principle of giving of new light on an old one.

A first grader can copy a phrase from the Bible and repeat it. This is no sign of the presence of a master.

Now if Creme could give the underlying principle governing the oneness behind all lives that is not a copy of some previous teaching, that brings the flashing forth if intuition in the student, then we could be impressed.

Felix:
When Maitreya talks about sharing and the need to share the world's resources, is this not a principle?

JJ:
Again this is a repetition of a platitude that we hear from every religious teacher and every Sunday School class. How one can mentally conclude that there is some new light here indicating the intelligence of a master. I do not know.

There is a principle behind sharing. Has Creme revealed it? No

Does Creme know what it is?

Unlikely.

I read the first book or two he put out and could not even see a hint of understanding principles, let alone the revelation of anything new.

Data that cannot be proven is often thrown out by Creme. I could also say that Jesus was born 22BC or 4AD and no one cold prove me wrong.

His predictions however, can be verified and I have not seen one yet come true, even though he claims many have. (Logically a few of them must have) If his data he gives out is as unreliable as his predictions then I wouldn't bet my grandmother's operation money on them.

Felix:
It's unfortunate that way back in 1988 you turned away from what Creme was openly giving you. With you having a 2nd ray personality, (correct?) I know that you would be a lot more open to these writings than others. JJ, you are a teacher ...and a teacher with a voice might I add - you can become more consciously involved in the Reappearance work if you so choose.

JJ:
You have spoken about ascending to the plane of the mind and this is what I did in my decision about Creme at that time.

Every time I hear a new claim I check it out just in case there is something to it. Just because I seek to tread the path does not mean that I expect the Hierarchy to throw all their plans in my lap. The injunction from Christ is "seek and yet shall find." All of us must continually seek from the highest to the lowest. The moment we stop seeking we then go backwards rather than forwards.

Therefore, when I heard of Creme's claims I did not dismiss them out of hand but ordered all the materials be had available at that time and read them through.

As I read I looked for light that would bring the flashing forth that DK talked about. None came.

I looked for a new principle or an old one amplified.

There was none.

I looked then for evidence of the dark side.

It appeared that he was willing to use force to take from the rich and give to the poor. Forcing one's version of good upon people is evidence of the dark side. Then I later found out that he was a Communist and thought the government of the old Soviet Union was superior to our own. As we all know, this "superior government" collapsed because it was not workable for it stifled the freedom of the people.

Despite all this, when I found out he was coming to Boise I thought I would give him a second look just to be sure.

In his speech he rehearsed a lot of the material I had already read and then ended with an astonishing prediction. He stated point blank that in the coming spring that Maitreya would appear on television that would be seen by peoples all over the world and would announce that he is the Christ. At this moment every person on the entire planet will feel his presence and know beyond any doubt that this is the second coming of Christ.

Now, this was not presented as a weather forecast that was subject to the whim of the people or circumstances, but was a definite statement. He did not say this will happen if conditions are right. He said definitely that this was going to happen.

He was so self assured about it that I thought that some powerful personage may present himself in spring, even if Creme was on the dark side.

Keeping this prediction in mind I did keep an eye out for some unusual person appearing on the news, but Spring came and went with nothing unusual. Then a year or two passed with no such news. I finally became curious and checked out Share's latest literature and found out the date had been moved up. After a period of time the date was moved up several times, but nothing ever happened. Now I think he has finally quit giving out such a date.

Now (speaking from the plane of the mind) if Creme is truly getting his knowledge from Christ then why would he make such a huge mistake - and not once but several times? DK who is lower on the totem pole than Maitreya never came close to a whopper like this.

The real mystery was why Creme still maintained a following after making such strongly worded prophecies which failed.

In addition to this, I have read many other predictions in his literature and have not found one that came true yet. Most astral psychics have a better record than this.

After the meeting was over I decided to give him one more test. Since I am an experienced handwriting analyst I decided to check out his writing. I approached him and asked for his signature. He gave it to me and it was very close to what I had expected.

It showed a powerful ego - a man with a strong desire to be the center of attention, who would bask in the adoration of anyone who would follow him.

Now let me ask you this Felix. After all this checking and finding absolutely no evidence to support his claims and much against them what am I supposed to do?

Of course, I would reject him and move on. What kind of fool would I be to embrace such a teacher with no evidence either internal or external?

Felix:
I have a personal anecdote to share - within the past 6 days I have been involved in three Transmission Meditations. For those of you who are unaware, Transmission Meditation is a new form of meditation that Benjamin Creme has brought to the forefront via the Hierarchy's request. What Transmission Meditation does is use the chakras of the people involved to step down energies into this world, energies that the Masters direct. The Masters are doing the real work here, you just need to be mentally polarized to transmit. It's entirely safe because the Masters know how much you can be used. Transmission Meditation is basically potent service because you are bringing in energies (different rays and Christ's energy) into this world and they are directed by the Masters to where They know is best. The first time I was involved in this was just last Sunday with 5 other people in the city where I live, and without a doubt this is real. I can literally feel my chakras at work - basically you have to meditate, you have to be mentally polarized for the transmission of energies to flow through you. Concentrating on the ajna center (center of the forehead) is more often than not the easiest way to maintain this mental polarization.

I know that there is no way I can convey how extraordinary this situation has been - I was involved in another Transmission Meditation tonight. I have a very sensitive physical body and so I am able to be aware sometimes at what rays are actually being transmitted through my chakras. I sincerely recommend anyone to try out Transmission Meditation if they are able to - there are over 600 groups worldwide so there is a fair chance that there is a group near you, if not already in your city. The link to find out where a group can be found is www.transmissionmeditation.org and you can also find more information about this potent form of service at the mentioned link.


JJ:
In any meditation the chakras are affected so this is not evidence of either a positive or negative direction. These 600 groups are linked to Creme and therefore are likely to tap into the thoughtform of the group as a whole, which would be subject to Creme's illusions.

The real test is to examine the material that is revealed through the meditations. If you received some light from your participation I'm sure the group would like to examine it in the open.

Felix:
The comment was "highly unlikely to finish this term" ...but if Bush does finish his term, it doesn't mean anything more than what was highly unlikely became the reality. You have said yourself JJ that the Master DK was wrong on predications (or at least many have not come true as of yet).

JJ:
This is really a wishy-washy "safe" way to make a prediction. It will happen but if it doesn't I was right anyway. This guy is not even good false prophet material.

On the other hand, every single concrete prediction I have made to this list has come true or is yet in the future. Maybe you're backing the wrong guy here.

Actually, I am very cautious about making predictions and only make then when the coming event is close to 100% sure. When speaking of the future that is not set I speak in percentages. For instance I would say that it is 90% sure that Bush will finish his first term. It is the desire of the true and living Christ that he do so, but because of free will there is always a danger that the plan could not materialize. It is close to a sure thing that he will be reelected but will face more danger in his second term. Chances of completing that are 65-75%.

As far as Saddam still being alive. The answer here has to be a black and white yes or no. There can be no "future is flexible" excuse used here. Creme says he is dead. I personally have not received a revelation on it one way or another, but using the mind to make a judgment here I would guess be is still alive and was never so sick that he was near death. He had some health problems, but not as portrayed by Creme. I would bet my mental judgments against any astral master any time.

Felix:
He, the Christ, has also been responsible for countless "miracles" that have and are happening throughout the world. I have been fortunate enough to see such a miracle - one of the members in the Transmission Meditation group i belong to has a square foot piece of glass that now makes a "cross of light". This miracle isn't really miracle at all, we, with our imperfections, just do not understand how such crosses of light are made ..... but i do theoretically know that the molecular structure of the glass is changed indefinitely and it is changed in such a way that it makes a cross of light when any light source appears through the glass. I was demonstrated this by lighting a match and moving it around, up and down and back and forth, and this cross of light was moving along where the match was moved to - becoming bigger when the fire was further away from the glass and becoming smaller when the fire was nearer to the glass. It was really quite the sight to see.

JJ:
One of the first lessons the seeker of the path must realize is to trust the inner signs and not the outer. Few realize how many illusive and deceptive signs materialize from astral consciousness. Among them are the stigmata, the face of Christ appearing on a wall, statues crying tears, blood sweating from a picture and so on.

Here are the Master's comments about signs: The Pharisees also with the Sadducees came, and tempting desired him that he would shew them a sign from heaven. He answered and said unto them, When it is evening, ye say, It will be fair weather: for the sky is red. And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times? A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed. Matt 16:1-4

Who seeks for signs? A wicked (deceived) and adulterous (attention on the God without) generation.

What is the sign to be given that the Messiah is near?

The sign of Jonas.

What is that?

Jonas went to Nineveh and predicted destruction. The destruction did not come and Jonas was very upset with God that he seemed to be a false prophet.

Verily the sign of Jonas has been repeated in our time. As we crossed over into this new millennia we have weathered an untold number of predictions of doom concerning Y2K, the end of the world, appearance of an antichrist, the rise of a dictator in America or Europe etc.

None of these predictions of doom have come to pass. We are thus passing through the sign of Jonas.

And what does this sign tell us?

It tells us that the true manifestation of the Christ is near. This is something I do have some certain knowledge of, but before he can some there must be a group ready to receive him. Such a group does not yet exist, but hopefully will soon.

Felix:
I write this post with seriousness. I am beginning to know more and more that the externalization of the Hierarchy will happen soon and that it has already really begin on other planes. Christ has never gone anywhere and He will reappear soon in the physical world to the masses and everyone will know who He is and why He is here.

JJ:
The world will not know who he is for some time after he manifests.

I think you are sincere young man and I hope you continue your exploration of the truth and hope this includes looking beyond the Creme doctrine. I bid you to explore the language of the soul which is the language of principles. A true principle can only be understood through the soul. This makes the revelation of principles the true test of a teacher. This is what must be looked for above all else. This is the inward sign that eclipses the outer and faileth not.

Below is a part of a previous post I made concerning Creme.

Previous post
Thanks for your posting, Adrian, of some of the teachings of Benjamin Creme. Actually, a large portion of the teachings you mentioned are not original with Creme, but with Alice A. Bailey of whom Creme was a student.

Many new age gurus have read the works of Alice A. Bailey and presented teachings gained from her books as their own original material. Because her books are quite technical and difficult to read, many students of such gurus are impressed that the material is original.

There are a number of teachers who claim to be channeling every master available who only present a rehash of Bailey and other writers.

It may be advantageous to present certain points to look for in a true representative of the Brotherhood and one who is under the illusionary path.

Characteristics of the Misled Teacher
1. The first thing to look at is the teachings he or she presents, for the Brotherhood does not like to repeat itself. If it does, it is only for the clarification purposes. A false teacher's highest teachings will be a repeat of information that has already been revealed. Creme's highest teachings are Alice A. Bailey quotes.

2. The false teacher will teach in data and not principles. If there is anything new in his teachings it will be in the form of improvable data. One of the few new things in Creme's teachings was some data about the number of disciples who have passed through the various initiations and even on this, he has over estimated the number.

3. The false teacher will make fantastic predictions that do not come true.

I recounted in my last post such a prediction by Creme.

4. The false teacher presents himself as a humble servant but subtly works to draw attention to glorify himself and his ego.

When I heard Creme in person make his false prediction I sensed that it originated in glamour. Also, his mannerisms seemed very centered in glamour. To confirm my suspicions I went to meet him after the lecture and got his autograph. I am an expert handwriting analyst and saw immediately on looking at his writing that I was correct. The guy revels in attention directed toward his ego.

5. The false teacher will lie when it furthers his purposes.

I personally think that Creme just makes up a lot of the "teachings" that are supposed to come from Christ and is aware of this fact.

6. The false teacher will usually emphasize teachings of the passing age, which is the age of Pisces at this time.

Creme's message of sharing and sacrifice sound pleasing, but they are presented in Piscean format and are not workable in the coming age.

7. He will not offer you a way to prove to yourself that his teachings are true, but will want you to accept him through faith in his personality. Those who are sure that he is correct are convinced through outer signs.

Creme has offered no way for us to know the truth of his teachings.

Characteristics of the True Teacher
1. The bulk of his teachings will not be a repetition of writings already in existence. His or her teachings will either be new or throw new light on teachings already revealed.

Look at the two greatest in history, Jesus and Buddha. They may have quoted some from teachers of the past but overall their core message was new and brought additional light to the world.

2. The true teacher will stress principles more than improvable data and will generally reveal and explain new principles.

3. The true teacher is not infallible but will be cautious in making fantastic predictions. The predictions he does make will be very reliable and will often be clothed in mystery as are the writings of John the Beloved and Nostradamus.

4. The true teacher may be accused of being in the work for the ego, as even Jesus was, but in reality his prime goal will be service to humanity. He only seeks recognition for his true accomplishments, when it furthers the work, and will never seek the recognition that belongs to others.

5. The true teacher will attempt to so live his life so he will never lie or deceive. If he does not achieve perfection in this, he recognizes his mistake and seeks to correct it.

6. The true teacher will emphasize the coming principles of the Aquarian Age. He will not abandon the good of Pisces and sacrifice, but his main attention will be on the coming energies of service, as we discussed earlier.

7. The true teacher will teach students a path that will lead to verification through the soul and Spirit that the principles he teaches are true. Those who are convinced he is correct are sure because of powerful inner confirmation rather than outer signs, even though outer signs may seem to manifest.


If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.
Steven Wright