The Eighth Sphere

2002-11-9 06:18:00

Ruth writes:
I wasn't going to mention this, but your last post about the dweller attacking during sleep makes me feel I have to do it. This happened shortly after I began the turn to spiritual life and had no knowledge. While sleeping, suddenly I found myself in a place of lead- gray desolation, completely removed from all human contact, totally alone. Great waves of coarse electricity began to move through my body from foot to head. At first I just observed this but was feeling somewhat discomforted. Then the intensity increased such that my body began to contort. Without even thinking I heard myself calling out, "Please help me". Immediately I was out of that place and into a place of warmth and comfort. My body relaxed totally and I felt such love and peace that I hoped would last forever. This was not a nightmare. It was completely lucid and clearly remembered in detail. Would you please be king enough to tell me if this was an encounter with the Dweller, or was it something else?

To this Catherine adds:
You sparked a nerve in this one.....I too have been to this place and the ground was spongy. But I didn't get to leave so peacefully, but was ripped back and forth to the place and, upon landing, was confronted with (get this) a priest, his look was displaced but yet there, he asked me if he could "help me" I return his comment with "no, but maybe I can help you" he disappeared and then I saw ... just horrible things, I don't want to get into it.. at that point this voice said that I could rule here , I began to laugh in the "you've got to be kidding me tone, but realized some kind of foolishness in me and began to pray the "I decree the white light prayer" If I knew the song then I would have said that a million times instead. Once I prayed I was immediately removed back to my room, from which I got up made a pot of coffee, and didn't sleep for two nights. I had the contorting thing happen but just when I was young it has long since stopped. I have not been to this place since and have no interest in being ripped from my home again, and will fight it with every once of my being.. I hope this is not happening to you on some daily basis, if so you must fight it, I was always attacked while laying down if this is the same for you then recognize the signs of it and get up, sing a song, read out loud and as I learn from JJ don't try to converse with it but give it no acknowledgement....the power of attrition. whether or not this is our dweller is a good question and one I have been trying to determine myself as well.

JJ:
If you have not read it yet, you might want to check out the first couple chapters of The Immortal Book III. There we are told that there are numerous heavens and hells created by the thought forms of various belief systems.

In addition to this, there is a particularly desolate place called the eighth sphere, the final domain of the lost souls of the Dark Brotherhood. In some scriptures this is called a kingdom without glory, where go those who are a law unto themselves.

DK writes this about it: "Vyasa in his commentary points out that karma (or action) is of four kinds which are expressed for us as follows:

"That type of activity which is evil, wicked and depraved. This is called black. This class of action is the product of the deepest ignorance, of the densest materiality, or of deliberate choice. Where it is the result of ignorance, the development of knowledge will gradually bring about a state of consciousness where this type of karma is no longer known. Where dense materiality produces what we call wrong action, the gradual development of the spiritual consciousness will change darkness to light and karma again is obviated. Where, however, it is the result of deliberate choice, or of preference for wrong action, in spite of knowledge and in defiance of the voice of the spiritual nature, then this type of karma leads to what the oriental occultist called "avitchi" or the eighth sphere,-a term synonymous with the Christian idea of the condition of being a lost soul. These cases are, however, exceedingly rare, and have relation to the left hand path, and the practice of black magic. Though this condition involves the severing of the highest principle (that of pure spirit from its two expressions, the soul and the body, or from the six lower principles), yet the life itself remains, and after the destruction of the soul in avitchi, a fresh cycle of becoming will again be offered."

JJ:
It is possible that you both were taken to the Eighth Sphere by your dweller. On the other hand, sometimes this desolate place is revealed by the soul to motivate the disciple to avoid winding up there. One can tell by examining your feelings at the time of the encounter. Did it seem like a revelation for your benefit or more like a trap or an attack?