Past Life Regression

2002-6-20 06:18:00

Saturday May 25, 20023 Gathering Audio Continued
Past Life Regression

As'af begins the session by singing the Beatles' song, "I Will".

JJ: There's no such thing as a bad Beatle's song, is there? I always liked that one. I was looking at my watch. I think it's probably a good time to do the regression part of our Gathering. Is ever body ready to go back into the past? How about the future? Would you like to discover a future life? Your soul actually has your future lives projected. You aren't there yet.

Speaking of that, I've been contemplating somewhat about time. We hear a lot of teaching about how there is an eternal now and everything is happening at once. I don't think it's quite happening that way. Things do happen in sequential periods of time but the eternal now is not where everything is happening at once, so to speak; instead there is a place that is beyond time. When you die and go into the higher worlds, time is not measured the way it is here. But when you're reborn, time has actually passed so it's not like everything is happening at once.

When we go to the higher worlds we go to places where time isn't measured the way it is here. Yet time is still passing here even when we're in the higher worlds. When we come back down to the lower worlds time has passed. It's a popular teaching to teach that everything is happening at once. I don't believe that's exactly the way it's transpiring. It's just the fact that time is not measured in the higher worlds. It's like you're in a state of consciousness where there is no time. So you go out of time then back into time rather than into a place where everything is happening at one time. Yet there is also a way to step back and look at the canvas of eternity where we can see the past and the future unfolding yet these are like projections instead of the actual unfoldment. We come down here on the earth and here upon the earth we go through the actual unfoldment of time.

So we're going to take some of you back into time. Usually when I've done these regressions the majority of the people can go back. Some people go back much more easily than others. Some go back and replay it just like they were really there. Others go back and get a little bit of memory and others just get impressions. You have all kinds of different experiences. Those who go back and relive the past completely with 100% recall are always very interesting cases, especially if they had an interesting past life.

It's funny when I was teaching about past life and doing past life regressions was how I first met my wife. She came to a past life regression I did then came later to the handwriting courses I was doing and different things. At that time, shortly after I became fairly well known for doing past life regressions in the area a local TV station said they were doing a series on new age things. It turned out that they were actually attempting to make us all look very bad. So, they did a series on us and I took a person back in a past life regression on TV. She went back to the days of Jesus which was very interesting.

I've only taken two people back to the days of Jesus that sounded credible. A lot of people think they lived in the days of Jesus but when you look at it statistically only a few of us probably did but yet somebody had to. I've had a couple people go back and give some interesting accounts. Maybe one of you were back there. Who knows?

It's also possible if you contact the soul 100% that you can draw back memories that aren't even your own or actual true memories. That sometimes happens. Sometimes people will pick up memories, especially in the astral zone. If we pick something up from there you never know what you'll come up with. It could be something true but it might not even be related to you 100%. But if you go back to one of your true past lives you will identify with it 100% and you will know if you hit a past life of yourself. Is everybody ready?

Everybody relax. Close your eyes. We're going to use a guided meditation. I like using this better than hypnosis because we want you to be in full control of yourself and always be able to exercise your full free will. My wife took off. She'll probably come bursting through the door right when we have something interesting happen. But we'll take that chance.

Visualize yourself walking through a forest. You're walking on a path through a wooded area. It's a nice pleasant area. Birds are singing. You see little animals along the path and running through the forest. They're friendly little animals. You feel very pleasant. It's a pleasant experience. It's just the right temperature, very slight wind. You're walking along this path. It's a very pleasant walk. You feel like you don't have a care in the world. There's nothing to worry about. There's just you and nature and a nice day. The sun is overhead. Sunlight filters through the trees. It's very pleasant.

You're walking along. You continue walking along this path and you come to a place where the forest ends. There is a mist and you feel like you want to walk into this mist. Your past is within this mist. Your past is there and you want to discover it. You proceed. You walk into this mist and the forest and the little animals and all the things behind you disappear. There is nothing here now except mist. You walk ahead. You're not afraid. You're comfortable and you proceed.

You see a blue circle of light, a small circle about the size of a silver dollar to you right. It's like a marker of some kind. You walk past this then another one appears in front of you. As you keep walking you see another blue marker ahead of you. You take a couple more steps and you see another. Somehow you know that when you pass ten more markers you will be back in your past. Each one is taking you back, back into a past experience. We're going to count the next ten markers. Proceed ahead. You're walking past the first one. As you walk past the first one the mist gets a little lighter. Somehow you know that when you get to the tenth the mist will be completely gone and you will be back into your past.

You're walking past the second one. The mist clears just a little bit more. You're walking past the third one and it begins to lift a little bit more. You're walking past the fourth. The mist clears a little bit more. You're walking past the fifth. It's beginning to get a little bit lighter. You see a little bit in the background. You're walking past the sixth one. It's lighter still. You're getting impressions about who you were. You're going back with you feelings, your thoughts, you beliefs. You will feel what you felt then. You will hear what you heard then. You're walking past the seventh. You hear a name. Focus on this name. The meaning or the image behind this name is coming to you. You're walking past the eighth. This name is becoming clearer.

Say the name to yourself. Don't say it audibly but say it to yourself over and over. As you say it you're going back to when this name had meaning to you. Say the name over and over to yourself. You're past the eighth and now you're passing the ninth. Say the name over and over. As you say the name to yourself over and over the mist is lifting. It's lifting more. Things are becoming clearer. You're seeing what you saw then. You pass the ninth. Now you have one more marker to pass and the mist will be clear. It will be cleared away. You're passing the tenth.

Now you're back. You're back into a life that you lived sometime ago. You can see what you saw then. You know what the name means. Think about this life. The first thing in this life you're thinking about is what this name means. Now another name is coming to your mind. Say this name over and over to yourself. As you say this name over and over to yourself, you'll begin to know all about this person; who this person is, whether it's you or a friend and what this person meant to you. Now a word comes to your mind, a word related to this lifetime. Say this word over and over in your mind and the meaning of this word will pull you into a memory. Everything is becoming clearer. It's becoming clear to you who you are.

I'm going to count to three and on the count of three you'll be back in this previous lifetime. You'll know who you are and the meaning of this lifetime will be clear to you. One, two, three. You know who you are. You know the lesson that you came to this lifetime to learn and you know what you learned and experienced. You know you are seeing people who were important to you. You see someone you loved. Someone else perhaps that you didn't love. You understood what you did for a living. You understood what you believed in. Think about what you believed in; what you were taught. Did you do what you were taught? Think about that. It's becoming clearer to you. Who are your parents? What did they teach you? What relationship did you have with them? Think about all these things that you learned in this lifetime.

Now I'm going to count to three and you'll go back to a lifetime before this. I'm going to count to three and you're going farther back. One, two, three. You know who you are. You're thinking about a particular time. What is happening to you at this time? It's an important time in your life. You're thinking about what is happening and what you're learning from this. It's coming to you. You're name is coming to you. I'm going to count to three and the name is coming to your mind. One, two, three. The name is coming to your mind. You know who you are. You're going back to some of the early memories in this lifetime. You're going to watch your life unfold, almost like you're watching a movie. You see the beginning then you see near the end. You see everything in between. Pick a time that was important in this lifetime and look at it and experience it. Think of the impressions that are coming to you. Think of how you feel. Think of who you knew, who you loved and who you did not love. Who treated you well? Who did not treat you well?

Now spend a minute or two contemplating this lifetime. You can look at any part of this lifetime that you want, from the beginning to the end. Look over and relive any part of the life that you want. Think about it for a minute and let the feelings and thoughts come to you. Very good. Now we're going to move back into the present. When we move into the present you're going to take all the memories with you so that you'll be able to recall everything that you've seen and felt. I'm going to count to three and we're going to all move into the present. One, moving into the present; two, you're almost there; three, you're in the present.

Who had some interesting experiences? Marylin?

Marylin: I don't know where I went but I was beneath water and I was swimming. I don't know when it was. Then you sent us back a second time and at the point where you said the scene was getting clearer I saw buildings all over the place. I saw figures in there but I was always high up over it. Then the third time I wasn't on Earth. I don't know where I was but I was a long way away.

JJ: Another planet or something?

Marylin: I don't know; another dimension? I don't know. It was somewhere else. I wasn't alone. That's something!

JJ: Have you done that before?

Marylin: No, not this way I hadn't. I rehearsed in my head a long time ago. I was walking down the forest path. A head of me was an Indian warrior on a beautiful horse and I was going toward him. I wanted to but I didn't want to. At that particular time I was in a roomful of smokers and they wanted me to open my eyes but my eyes burned then I didn't go any deeper so I didn't find out any more. When you said the path in the forest it took me right back.

JJ: Anyone else?

Audience: I had a lot of water too. When I first went back it was like a crossing; crossing water. Then it was like leaving Earth and watching water come up from very high and watching the water come up. Then I was on another planet or somewhere. The rock formations were like this and they were really kind of pointy. I could see the color of them. It was a brownish, purplish, tanish, and I saw lots and lots of them but they were like this. That's it.

JJ: Anybody else?

Audience: I had several experiences but the one that's still lingering with me is, Duway(?) was my name. It's not spelled the way that we would spell it. I think I'm a bounty hunter and I went after an alien race with light skin, kind of bumpy. When the mouth would open to scream they had really jagged teeth. I went . . . that's the only thing I could think of, that I was a bounty hunter of some kind. I don't know what I looked like but my name was Duway.

JJ: Interesting. That must have been on a galaxy far away huh?

Audience: I know I've been on other planets and I've been a dolphin before. This one is still sticking with me because I don't like to think I'm a bounty hunter.

JJ: Who's next?

Audience: I'm not sure what lesson I was supposed to learn but in the second one I was around water. I was on a ship. I was married. I don't remember if I had kids or not but it seemed like I was immigrating. This sounds boring compared to the other ones. I remember fishing boats and the sound of seagulls and the smell of the ocean.

Audience: I didn't get very much but the impression I got was that I was also on a boat in a large body of water. The first word that came to me, going back, was that I was a lady. I didn't get a name but I felt like I was a lady in these big fancy dresses dancing on a boat. That's it.

JJ: Robin has something.

Robin: I've only tried this once before and it didn't work so I'm not sure. These are just impressions that I got. When we went back the first time my name was Josephine and I was a Quaker woman. My husband was Allen. I had at least a son. A daughter kept fading in and out so I'm not sure. The word that came was 'harsh'. I tried to figure out what that meant. I don't know if it referred to the harshness of life or the teachings of that religion. I don't really know anything about Quakers but maybe if their idea of God is a harsh God. I don't know but that was the word that came. Then when I went back again my name was Antoine. I was immediately aware that I was Antoine and there was a bright light over here. I realized that I was on the beach and that was the sun rising. I was somehow connected with the ocean. I think I was working on a ship or something and the cook was my friend. That was it.

Audience: I wonder why so many so the ocean and ships.

JJ: That's kind of unusual that a lot of people are seeing that.

Audience: I saw that too but I can't agree with it in my mind.

JJ: To verify we'd have to do them individually and test them out. Some people go back into real past lives and others go back into an illusionary past life and others will go back and identify with someone they actually knew in a past life. They may think they're Napoleon but really they were in Napoleon's army. Maybe they admired Napoleon and wished they were him.

Audience: In mine I kept getting William Wallace or Sir William Wallace and Robert DeBruce. I kept seeing buildings that look like buildings in England. They're there now but they were old buildings. I was seeing knights fighting and kept wondering why I kept getting William Wallace and Robert DeBruce. I kept trying to see if I was these people or if I knew these people. It felt like legend or feeling of inspiration. I might've been in the army. There was a feeling of inspiration about those two people.

JJ: It's quite possible you weren't them but were close to them. That will often happen.

Audience: I got 'chivalry'. The word chivalry was real important to me.

Audience: I got a flash of the crusades too but it was just a flash then it went on to the fishing thing.

Audience: Now that you've explained that I'm willing to share. It's just really hard for me to fathom. The name that came when you said it the first time was "Caesar". I got a lot of images of what he looked like but I don't know if I was him or not. I couldn't tell. He was in Rome and there was a lot of stuff going on.

JJ: So there's a good chance you maybe were close to Caesar and that happened. That's why so many people think they were somebody famous in a past life. Maybe they admired the famous person when they were there in a past life. Of course, somebody had to be those famous people but everybody can't be.

Audience: The first time I went back my name was also Josephine but I was in an area with a man whose name was Benjamin. The word that came to me was love. We were standing outside a cottage of some sort then that left. Then when we went back farther I found myself in nun's robes and I was in a chapel and I was praying.

JJ: Did it seem like you were really there?

Audience: Oh yes, I was there. I was talking with God. I had a very emotional experience with it because the question-I don't know how these two work together but-the thought was I had such a close communion with God in that lifetime and that it was in a safe environment. In this lifetime I'm finding it very hard to live that knowing that I have in my heart in the outer world with people. It was so much easier to do it in a community of people that felt the same way I did. This time it's different.

JJ: Is that when you were a nun?

Audience: Yes

JJ: Can you see why we have to forget?

Audience: This is the first time I've ever been able to go back. I've never been receptive to regression before. People can't get me past the barrier. I don't know why I couldn't do it before. Maybe I didn't think it was any of their business. I trust this time. Thank you.

JJ: Anybody else want to share anything? Cindy?

Cindy: I just wanted to say it's kind of eerie because in my second time that I went into I realized that I was a male. I was fishing and could very clearly see the river. My name was Benjamin.

JJ: How clearly did you go back?

Cindy: That was very clear. It was a very peaceful lifetime which was unusual.

JJ: Anyone else? Don't be shy.

Audience: I've done a lot of past life regressions. I've also gathered a lot of people into them. I've had more spontaneous past life regressions. This is pretty strange being guided by someone. When I came out from the mist it was purple. It was really strange. It was a very, very, very deep purple. In the first life I was a young man. In fact, in both those lifetimes I was a male. I was a young man, 20ish, in a village. It was in a market place. There were a lot of stone walls and stalls and that sort of thing. The name I got before I went into that lifetime was Jaalo. That's what came. I never heard that name before. I don't even know if that's a name. That's the name I got.

JJ: That's a good sign you got something totally unheard of.

Audience: The word I got was 'mishappen'. I said it to myself two or three times because I thought maybe I didn't understand myself. I got it that I needed to stand on my principles. That's what I had to learn in that lifetime.

JJ: Had you been back to this lifetime before?

Audience: No.

JJ: Have you been regressed before?

Audience: Lots of times. Most of them were spontaneous though.

JJ: You mean just out of the blue you'd go back like a flashback or something?

Audience: I'll experience something or be somewhere and all of a sudden there it is.

JJ: You mean without any guiding at all? You just go back?

Audience: Right.

JJ: That's a sign of an advanced soul.

Audience: It was pretty wild, the first few I had. Then the second life I went to my name was Joseph. It was 1502. You asked for a time or a date or something and that's what came. I'm not sure if it was before Christ or after but 1502 was what I got. I was a male. I had two young daughters and I could just see them coming towards me. I was a boot maker. The daughters were real important. They were coming towards me. Then the very next thing when I tried to get a hold of why I was looking at this I found myself out on a hill communicating with God. It was like a lot of clouds and light rays. You know how the light rays come through the clouds. Then you were asking us to come back.

JJ: Interesting. Anybody else?

Audience: I only remembered one but I typically don't remember very often. The scenes that came to mind were that my name was Samuel and it was in pre-revolutionary war times but very close. I had two scenes. One was outside of Boston in fields watching British regulars going by then another scene where I was walking in a cobblestone village. I didn't get much more than that but there is a sense of something to do with Sam Adams. I don't think I was Sam Adams but my name was Samuel. There was a sense of connection. What just occurred to me now, not then, but maybe this came to me now because I'm in a wounded state and there's a sense that I may have been wounded at that time.

Audience: The first time you asked for a name I came up with Joshua. I was a boy. You asked for the mother's name and it was Elizabeth. I immediately flipped into adulthood as a priest in a desert scene surrounded with children. Other than that that was all I could basically see and when you went to the second time I got absolutely nothing except the words 'Hosanna' and 'Glory Be to God'. Everything was blank. There was nothing except those words.

Audience: There wasn't any significant thing. Just that I still hear the ocean in my ears. There was some point of boat use with the sound of the ocean from a distance. When you mentioned a name one name came to mind, Pamela. It was darkness and I don't remember anything but still I have this feeling in my ears and sound of the ocean.

JJ: A lot of people got water. That's interesting. We didn't mention water in the regression.

Audience: I didn't regress and I didn't see any past lives and I didn't hear any names. But when you asked I kept going back trying to restart it so maybe I could run back and try to do it. When you said to think of a word, the word was 'surrender'. But I didn't get any pictures.

JJ: You might want to do with that is to repeat that word over and over and see where that takes you. That's probably a key to something important in your past. It could be positive or it could be negative. Maybe you had to surrender against your will or maybe you surrendered to something according to your will to something in the past. If you pick up a word like that when you're meditating, that word can sometimes trigger a past life memory. Anybody else have anything to share before we move on?

Audience: I had more of a sense of well-I went back and Rebecca was my name. I didn't get a real clear thing but I had a feeling that I starved to death. There were two kids with me. I felt more than I saw. Is that normal?

JJ: Well, you go back several ways. Some people just go back by feeling and they feel what they felt back then but they don't see anything or hear anything. Others will hear things but not really feel anything and others will see things but not really hear or feel things. Some will hear, see, feel, all the senses will go back. It just depends. Okay, anybody else? We're going to pick on one or two of you. Jeanine seems to be pretty sensitive. Why don't you come over here and sit in this chair. Do you mind? We'll take one individual back because with a group we get more generality so we'll try to get a little more specific with an individual.

Close your eyes. Visualize some steps in front of you. There are ten steps. You're going down these ten steps. By the time you get to the tenth step you're going to be back in a past life. You're going to feel what you felt then. You're going to see what you saw then. You're going to be able to hear what you heard then. Everything will be very clear. It will be a past life that is important to your present life. You're going down the first step, the second, the third, the fourth. At the bottom of the steps everything is becoming clear. The fifth, sixth, seventh, clearer and clearer, eighth, ninth, tenth. You're back very clear as if you're actually in this time period in your consciousness. Who are you?

Jeanine: Jolene

JJ: What do you see around you?

Jeanine: Stars

JJ: Do you see any people?

Jeanine: I see a building.

JJ: What time period are you in?

Jeanine: Early 300 something, 40 something.

JJ: Would this be after Christ?

Jeanine: Yes

JJ: Have you heard of Jesus Christ?

Jeanine: Yes

JJ: Are you a believer?

Jeanine: Yes

JJ: Who are you associated with?

Jeanine: Paul

JJ: Who is Paul?

Jeanine: a friend.

JJ: What do you do for a living?

Jeanine: Make things, make clothes, make robes and study the stars too

JJ: Are you an astrologer?

Jeanine: yes, I read the placement of the stars

JJ: What are the stars telling you?

Jeanine: All about the lives of people and what's going on within each person and what's going on on the earth.

JJ: Are you a Christian? Are you associated with the Christian religion?

Jeanine: No, no religion

JJ: But you've heard of the Christian religion?

Jeanine: Yes

JJ: What do you think of them?

Jeanine: Silly people

JJ: Why do you think they're silly?

Jeanine: Because they created things that are not based in truth, not based on the teachings of the true Christ.

JJ: Do you believe in Christ Himself?

Jeanine: Of course.

JJ: Do you think they're distorted His teachings?

Jeanine: Yes. We had an underground, so to speak, avenue of people. We lived the teachings and we knew the Christ.

JJ: Did the Christians frown upon you being an astrologer?

Jeanine: Absolutely. We had to do everything underground.

JJ: Do you think the original Christians believed in astrology?

Jeanine: Yes

JJ: How do you know that? Do you have records?

Jeanine: Oh, in that building. That building stores the records.

JJ: Where is the building?

Jeanine: Do you mean a place?

JJ: Where are the records stored and where is the building?

Jeanine: Do you mean a place? Are you asking for a place?

JJ: If there is a place, yes.

Jeanine: I'm way out from all civilization. It seems like out in the hills close to Jerusalem but far from people there is a building. That's all I know about the building. I would have to ask someone.

JJ: Can you recall what part of the country you live in? Is it near Jerusalem?

Jeanine: No, I live far from Jerusalem but I come here to do the teachings, the readings of the stars.

JJ: Do you know what part of the Earth you live in?

Jeanine: A desert, the Sinai desert or something. I don't know which desert, just a desert.

JJ: Would it be like the Essences or something?

Jeanine: There is a group, there are some underground groups. Do you know what I mean by underground?

JJ: Yes, so you're a part of an underground group?

Jeanine: Yes. There are many steps.

JJ: What does this underground group believe in that's different from the regular Christians?

Jeanine: They believe in all esoteric teachings. They know the connection of all things including the stars and the moon and the earth and the waters and the planets and their individual selves.

JJ: Now we're going to take you farther back. I'm going to count to three and you're going to go way back, way back in the past, over a million years in the past. One. Two. Three. Where are you? Are you upon this earth or are you somewhere else?

Jeanine: I'm under the Earth, in the middle of the Earth.

JJ: Are you in the land in the middle of the Earth?

Jeanine: There is land.

JJ: What's it like?

Jeanine: It's like a valley, beautiful, water, tall buildings, very etheric. You can see through the buildings.

JJ: Is it a physical reality or more spiritual?

Jeanine: I don't know.

JJ: How is it lighted?

Jeanine: Natural.

JJ: Is there any sun?

Jeanine: No

JJ: Everything is just lighted by itself?

Jeanine: Yes. When you focus on the building you can see it, otherwise you don't see it. It's tall, very tall. If you touched it your hand would go through it.

JJ: Are you in a physical body? Or an etheric body?

Jeanine: I don't know the difference.

JJ: But if you touch the buildings your hand goes through?

Jeanine: Yes

JJ: What do you do here? What is your life like?

Jeanine: Study, study.

JJ: What do you study? From books or from other types of records?

Jeanine: Books of knowledge, records of knowledge, beings that are more advanced.

JJ: What do these records look like?

Jeanine: Some look like a scroll but it never ends. Some you don't see with your physical eyes. When you look, it's there.

JJ: You have to look at it before it even shows up? Is that how it is?

Jeanine: Yes, it's almost like...

JJ: The buildings are like that too?

Jeanine: Yes

JJ: When you're not looking the building isn't there but when you look it is there.

Jeanine: Yes, very interesting.

JJ: Who is the leader?

Jeanine: That one

JJ: What is his name?

Jeanine: I knew you would ask me that. I must go ask him.

JJ: Have you never thought to ask before?

Jeanine: I forget to ask because I don't like to know names, they're too powerful. Joseph.

JJ: His name is Joseph?

Jeanine: No, something like that, John, Joseph or a cross between. Joseph, John, it changes. Oh, you're just saying that. It's a very high being so it gives me a name that I need at that time.

JJ: Is this a true name or just a name?

Jeanine: It's a name for now. Otherwise I'm not certain.

JJ: Have you seen the leader?

Jeanine: No.

JJ: You haven't seen him? Who's the highest leader that you have seen?

Jeanine: Joseph.

JJ: What does he look like?

Jeanine: He's very tall. He has a lot of hair which he says is a protection and a sign of knowledge. He wears something long from the shoulders all the way to the floor.

JJ: Is it a robe?

Jeanine: Yes, a type of robe. It changes colors. Right now it's brown but sometimes he wears a bluish white.

JJ: How far under the Earth are you?

Jeanine: In the center. There are other kinds of beings there that are not what I've seen before in a physical.

JJ: Are they physical beings or more spiritual?

Jeanine: They have to be physical to be in the center of the Earth but they're not as dense as I am but when you go there you become very light.

JJ: Okay I'm going to ask you a couple questions. Close your eyes and relax again. I'm going to ask you a question and count to three and by the count of three the answer will come to you. The question is this. Did you begin your lives upon this earth or was it another earth? One, two, three.

Jeanine: Another galaxy.

JJ: Where were you when you began your lives?

Jeanine: In the Spirit.

JJ: How about your physical lifetimes? Did you begin on this earth or another earth?

Jeanine: Another planet.

JJ: How many years ago was this?

Jeanine: Six Million.

JJ: Where was this planet located?

Jeanine: In a galaxy about 14 million light years away from this earth.

JJ: What was your life like? Go back to one of your lives you had there. Did you look human like you do on the earth?

Jeanine: No, the same kind of shape but not the same kind of body.

JJ: How many fingers did you have?

Jeanine: Six.

JJ: What did your face look like?

Jeanine: It was kind of straight, no ears, they were just openings. Very small eyes because we didn't need to see a lot.

JJ: Was there much like on this planet? Was it hotter or cooler than earth?

Jeanine: Moderate all the time.

JJ: In this life that you're visiting right now...what about crystals?

Jeanine: There are lots of crystals. Everything is made of crystals.

JJ: Did you communicate with the crystals?

Jeanine: We did everything with crystals.

JJ: When you talked to each other did you talk the way we talk?

Jeanine: No, we talked from here and here and here.

JJ: Was the race there more advanced or less advanced than earth?

Jeanine: More advanced.

JJ: So why did you come to Earth?

Jeanine: I had to experience the devolvement.

JJ: Did you come here to serve also?

Jeanine: I don't like that. I don't like that.

JJ: You don't like what?

Jeanine: Devolving.

JJ: You didn't like the idea? Did somebody send you?

Jeanine: No, I volunteered. I said okay.

JJ: Did someone ask for volunteers?

Jeanine: It was part of the process to maintain the vibration and to go higher one had to go lower. I don't know why.

JJ: To descend below all things is to ascend above all things? Is it that principle?

Jeanine: Yes. Sort of. Oh Mercy.

JJ: What? What thoughts are coming to you?

Jeanine: That I got lost here and I want to go home.

JJ: You feel like you're lost here?

Jeanine: I got lost.

JJ: How did you get lost? Were you supposed to return before now?

Jeanine: No.

JJ: Why do you say you got lost then?

Jeanine: It feels like I stayed too long. It feels like the pull here is so heavy.

JJ: Okay, now we're going to do one more thing with you.

Jeanine: The people are here now

JJ: The whole group from that planet is here?

Jeanine: No, but they come now.

JJ: In ships?

Jeanine: Back and forth.

JJ: So the race still exists?

Jeanine: Oh yea.

JJ: Do you know what technology they use to travel?

Jeanine: Crystals.

JJ: What does a crystal do?

Jeanine: It's fed by solar energy, like one is a million times more powerful.

JJ: So it takes up energy from the stars somehow?

Jeanine: Yes.

JJ: We're going to do one more thing and take you into a possible projected future life. First of all return to your life as Jeanine. You are Jeanine. Now you are going to move ahead into a future life where you will be found again. You said you felt lost here. You're going to move into the future where you will achieve you goal. I'm going to count to three and you'll be projected into a future life. One, two, three. Who are you?

Jeanine: I am who I am.

JJ: Where are you?

Jeanine: Right here in the present moment.

JJ: What do you see in the future?

Jeanine: Lots of light and a feeling of total oneness, peace, oneness.

JJ: Do you pick up any particular future life?

Jeanine: I'm a healer. There are lots of people who are wounded so to speak and I go around and just touch them.

JJ: What time period is this?

Jeanine: About 29...29.

JJ: Are there still wars?

Jeanine: Yes and no. They're more galactic now. The people of the Earth are having to reconstruct from much war. There have been galactic wars and many people have been wounded. There are a lot of soul wounds as well as physical wounds and they're being mended by many people.

JJ: Very interesting.

Jeanine: It's hard to look at but it feels okay. It feels peaceful. I'm not sure if it's 2900, I just get 29.

JJ: Let's take you to the year 2029. You're moving ahead in the spirit to this year. What do you see?

Jeanine: This one is different. (laughing) Oh wow, there's so much water on the planet, much more than there is now. I live on a boat. Everything is beautiful though. We can see the snow capped mountains now.

JJ: Where is the boat?

Jeanine: It's like a lake that's joined with the ocean. There's so much water. There's not as much land.

JJ: Did we have global warming or something?

Jeanine: Upheavals, like things coming from the bottom of the ocean and creating water just being everywhere.

JJ: Is a lot of land gone?

Jeanine: Yep

JJ: Okay, let's move ahead to 2100. What do you see?

Jeanine: Blank. Everything is blank.

JJ: Is this a good time or a bad time?

Jeanine: It feels really heavy.

JJ: Was there some disaster?

Jeanine: Everything is gone. My body feels real, real heavy.

JJ: What happened?

Jeanine: Something, fire.

JJ: Was it atomic war or something?

Jeanine: Everything-I don't know where it came from-it's just a lot of fire. There was a lot of fire. It's not there anymore.

JJ: Did anyone survive?

Jeanine: Not many.

JJ: Okay, let's move ahead to 2200. Now what do you see?

Jeanine: There are more people than I thought. They're coming out from everywhere and they're glorious like, "We survived." It is good. The consciousness is much higher, much higher.

JJ: What caused the destruction?

Jeanine: It was like fire, earthquakes, eruptions, volcanoes, lots of volcanic activity. They were started by something that shook the ground, seismic, atomic sort of stuff, something that wasn't supposed to be there.

JJ: Was it something man did, like atomic power or something else?

Jeanine: No, Something man did.

JJ: Was it atomic bombs or some other invention?

Jeanine: It's like something like that except it was a newer invention, more powerful but it was put underground so that people didn't know about it. It exploded and it caused waves all over the entire earth. So, things that weren't suppose to happen, happened, lots of fire.

JJ: So how could this have been prevented?

Jeanine: Consciousness, more aware, more conscious and banding together.

JJ: Okay Jeanine, we appreciate your time. We're going to bring you into the current time and you'll have a clear memory of everything you want to remember. One, two, three. You're in the current time. Do you want to give us any impressions you had?

Jeanine: Well, you were there when we were in the center of the earth. You were the one teaching.

JJ: Really? Was I the Joseph John?

Jeanine: I guess. Oh, that's your name. Whoever it was, was going back and forth. I believe it was you. It was the essence of you anyway. You were Joseph when you needed to be Joseph and John when you needed to be John. You were one being but two entities.

JJ: You didn't see a very pleasant future for us.

Jeanine: Let me do it again and see if I can come up with something better. (laughter)

JJ: The future is an interesting thing. People will project in the future and the time frames for the future are very difficult to get because of the eternal now and the probabilities. People get different things about the future. A lot of people pick up the warnings about the future or the potential destructions. That's a definite possibility but if we do our part it's also possible to avoid these type of things. It's good to be warned about them so that we can do our part to avoid some of the things that some people do pick up. There are other people who pick up that we're going to make a graceful transition into the future. It's also possible that she could've picked up something 5000 years in advance and projected it into a more recent time period. You never know for sure. The basic plan is hoped that we will make a fairly graceful transition into the new age without tremendous destruction and we hope that this will happen. If we all do our part eventually we can. She kind of picked this up that this could be avoided by higher consciousness.

Jeanine: This is so important what we're doing here. We go back to our lives that are mundane and we sometimes forget what our purpose is. We have to teach. We have to keep guiding other people to come together and raise consciousness because that's all it will take, just raising consciousness.

JJ: Thank you. Any other impressions you care to share?

Jeanine: Oh no.

JJ: Thanks for your time. (applause) Are they about ready for us to eat? We've got another half hour or so? Shall we try this with one more person? Why don't you come up.

Go ahead and close your eyes. Everybody be as quiet as you can. I'm going to count to seven and on the count of seven you're going to be back to where you were before into a past life. One, you're going back. Two, you're going back. Everything is becoming clear. You're seeing what you saw before but you are seeing it more clearly. The feelings are back. You can hear, you can see and you can feel everything you could in the past. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Who are you?

Dianna: Sister Irene

JJ: What's the name again?

Dianna: Sister Irene

JJ: What are you doing?

Dianna: I'm in a chapel, praying.

JJ: Do you enjoy praying?

Dianna: Yes

JJ: Why?

Dianna: I can talk to my Lord.

JJ: Do you have some strong experiences in talking to God?

Dianna: Yes

JJ: Tell us one.

Dianna: I see Him at the alter and He talks to me and fills my heart and I know that He loves me.

JJ: Are you a leader or do you have somebody over you like a Mother Superior or someone? What's your position?

Dianna: I think I am the Mother Superior.

JJ: What did you learn in this life?

Dianna: Obedience.

JJ: Were you pretty obedient?

Dianna: Yes

JJ: Did that give you stability?

Dianna: Yes.

JJ: Do you miss that in this life?

Dianna: Yes.

JJ: What are you supposed to learn in this current life?

Dianna: To trust in God and to move forward with that trust and love that I know that I have.

JJ: In your life as a nun, what year did this take place?

Dianna: 1532

JJ: What location were you in? What country?

Dianna: Southern England.

JJ: How long did you live?

Dianna: 42

JJ: How did you die? What happened?

Dianna: Lungs.

JJ: Was it an illness?

Dianna: Yes.

JJ: Let's go back to a lifetime before this, the life you lived closest to the time of Christ. I'm going to count to three and you'll go back. You'll go back very clearly, even more clear than before. One, two, three. Who are you?

Dianna: I can't, I'm not getting it.

JJ: You're not getting that one? Okay, we're going to go back further back. It's coming to you, the name is coming to you. One, the name is coming. Two, on the count of three. Three, the name is coming. Who are you? Do you get an impression of this life?

Dianna: Ayers?

JJ: What country are you in? Do you get any impression?

Dianna: Dolphins, I see dolphins. Blue water.

JJ: What do you have to do with dolphins?

Dianna: They're playful and I communicate with them. JJ: Are you a human being?

Dianna: No

JJ: Are you a dolphin?

Dianna: Yes.

JJ: That's interesting. How far back in time is this, do you think?

Dianna: It has to be millions.

JJ: A long time?

Dianna: Yea.

JJ: Did you enjoy being a dolphin?

Dianna: Yes.

JJ: Very good. We're going to take you back into the present and you'll remember all the impressions that you had. I'm going to count to three and you'll be back in the present as Dianna, feeling good. One, two, three.

Dianna: asks an inaudible question.

JJ: You only went back to one life so that must've been an important one for you, being a nun. You must've enjoyed an important lesson of dedication then. You seemed very dedicated to God and that was apparently very important to you to learn. Thanks for your help. (applause)

Audience: How do we know if a past life regression of someone who is not hypnotized is real or if it's one of the ones that are associated with the life?

JJ: It doesn't matter if it's hypnosis or guided meditation. Some will be real and some won't so you just have to test it. It's even more likely under hypnosis sometimes because the subject under hypnosis might really want to please the hypnotist and give him what he wants. What time is it? 6 o'clock. Do we want to take a break for lunch or what's the plan? If you have any questions let's take a few minutes for that.

As'af: I don't know if it's directly related but the question is regarding the concept of time where all time exists simultaneously on the higher realms verses the evolution of our awareness, our evolution as spiritual beings. How does it add up if all times are like that?

JJ: I covered that a little bit. Basically in the higher realms there is a plan made then the projection of the finishing of the plan. In that way all time is taking place at one time but it hasn't really taken place yet because it's outside of time. When we enter time there is a beginning and an end to it and everything is not taking place at one time; it's taking place in a linear fashion. The planning part in the higher worlds is similar to here in that the plan envisions the beginning, middle and end.

As'af: My question is a little different. What I mean is: it is the principle that I am becoming that which I decide to become. So this one God is about beyond time and He also evolves. How does it make sense that He evolves and at the same time He is about time?

JJ: The being that appeared to Moses wasn't completely outside of time. He works in the lower and higher worlds. The Absolute, which is beyond our communication, so to speak, would be beyond time but the higher beings that work with men are clothed and work in all the worlds. When any of the three worlds are approached time is also approached. Time exists in the three worlds of human endeavor, the celestial, the astral and the physical but it's a little different in the two higher worlds. Time is not so measured in the higher worlds because it doesn't matter how long time lasts there. Here it matters how long time lasts. For instance, we say it's time to eat. We're always measuring time here. If we didn't need to measure time anymore it would be like there was no time. That's the way it is in these higher worlds but time still passes. Any being that's evolving, no matter if it be high or low, is becoming that which he decides to become. He does go through a process of evolution.

After we go through a process of evolution we enter what is called pralaya. We go through a period of rest. Eventually the whole universe itself will dissolve and go back to its native element and we'll go through a period of rest equal in time to the period in which we were in manifestation. During this time period it will be like there is no time because we won't be measuring it. It's a little like when you're asleep. When you're asleep you don't measure any time but when you wake up time has passed. So, even if you go into the worlds in which time is not measured, time still passes and time still exists.

It's like there are trees outside that we don't see. We don't see them but they still exist. If we're beyond seeing and living in time, time still exists in the worlds where it does exist and time still passes. Does that make any sense? When any of the higher lives come down and speak with man they're entering into time and they are taking part in becoming. It doesn't matter how high they are.

Let's look at the highest being on the Earth, the Ancient of Days. He is now incarnated in an etheric body. He doesn't have a physical body as we understand it but He has an etheric physical body. The composition of all the lives on the Earth is incarnated in the physical body of the Earth itself and in a way the Earth is an extension of the physical body of the Ancient of Days. It's the same with the Solar Logos. The sun is His physical body yet that Solar Logos was once a man and He can materialize as a man in an etheric body if He decides to.

All of these higher entities are still in the process of becoming but in the process they go through periods of rest where they merely absorb that which they gained through the experience of incarnation. There are eternal lives and we're just at the midway point of beingness as human beings. There is still a long way to go. Somebody like the Solar Logos, He was a man many solar systems ago, trillions and trillions of years ago. It's almost a longer time than we can imagine.

Audience: Is the Ancient of Days the same person as the Planetary Logos or is that a different being?

JJ: The Planetary Logos involves several things. He is called the Planetary Logos because He, from His station, can identify with all the lives on the planet. He can extend His consciousness clear down to your consciousness and be aware and see through your eyes if He decides to. In that way He is the Planetary Logos but a planetary logos is composed of two stages. One is just like you are. You have a lower self and a higher self. Your lower self is the three lower bodies, your physical, emotional and mental. Your higher self is the formless energies of which you are composed. It's the same thing with the Planetary Logos.

What we teach about the Planetary Logos is actually the lower self of the logos, the Ancient of Days. Then there is a higher self that was here even before the Ancient of Days got here. The Earth is like 4 or 5 billion years old and the Ancient of Days has been here 23 million years. Before that the Logos was still here but by the Logos coming here 23 million years ago He brought intelligence here that brought self awareness to the consciousness of the entire earth. You have a lower self and higher self. So does the Earth itself.

The Earth has its own Solar Angel which is even higher than the Planetary Logos. Probably no one has contacted Him yet. The first person to make contact with the higher correspondence of the Solar Angel would be the Planetary Logos, the Ancient of Days. His current job is probably to make contact with this part of Himself. So, even these greater lives have a higher part and lower part to themselves. But that lower part of themselves is so high to us that we can't even contemplate the higher.

Then above the Solar Logos is that great being who is so high that even the Masters call Him the One About Naught Can Be Said. He is such a high being that even the Masters don't really know much to say about Him. They just call Him The One About Naught Can Be Said because His consciousness is so high.

Audience: Inaudible.

JJ: He's over seven solar systems.

Audience: Is there one over the Milky Way?

JJ: Yea but that's so far up. The one who's over seven solar systems is so high that it's beyond even the Master's ability to understand His consciousness. So, the one above Him is not even worth thinking about. It's like a mosquito can't really comprehend your consciousness.

Audience: Inaudible.

JJ: Yea, they keep going up you get to the head dude of the galaxy.

Audience: The etheric body you said dissipates after death? How long does it take to dissipate and is that something like beings that are on the other side and go through a death like we go through a physical death here?

JJ: The etheric body can either dissipate very quickly or it can last for a long period of time. The Egyptians worked with this knowledge. They understood the mysteries of the etheric body and they sought to preserve it through mummification. This is why when they opened King Tut's tomb that everybody died within a short period of time who was associated with the opening of it. After the excavation everyone connected with it mysteriously died. They contacted some illness because the Egyptians had preserved some energy of the etheric body and put a cursing energy on that. When they opened the tomb the etheric energy was released. That may have kept that particular Pharaoh kind of earthbound for a long period of time.

Audience: Imagine an etheric body locked in a little tiny room.

JJ: Yea. I'm sure his consciousness moved on but that energy was left behind. This often happens with haunted houses. The etheric body hasn't completely dissipated because the desire of the person who died was so strongly attached. Maybe he wanted revenge or something so his etheric body hangs around and the actual energy remains after he moves on. So the ghost that people see are like shells or little computer programs running amuck that have only elemental life forms controlling them but not the higher life forms.

Audience: Inaudible.

JJ: Normally you only live a few days after death in your etheric body. You usually get to hand around for your funeral. (laughter)

Audience: In "Ponder on That" they talk about that and how long the etheric body stays. In talking about cremation they said you should be cremated as soon as possible.

JJ: Yes, it helps you to move on. You should be cremated about three days after you die. This helps you to move on in the next world.