Gathering (5-24-02) -- Part 1

2002-6-1 15:57:00

Invocation And Evocation -- Part One

Delivered by J.J. Dewey
Friday Evening, May 24, 2002 Wimberly, Texas

  

JJ:

Hello, my friends. Sorry about the delay. This is the system I've been making the audio on every other night for the group. It's been working fine every single night. Of course now, I have some problem with it. I think it's the speakers. They must not be geared for this type of thing. So, we're going to have to do this tonight without speakers. I'll experiment with it later on and maybe we can add the speakers once we figure out what the problem is. We'd like to welcome everyone here. We're starting late but we don't have anywhere to go so we can stay a little bit later so that's good. This gives everybody an opportunity to get to know each other. Artie is going to do an introduction on everyone in the morning.

[Compiler's Note: Attendees introducing themselves, all 36 introduced themselves but not all were recorded due to microphone placement.]

Audience response:

"I'm happy to be here. My name is Nathan Bales. I'm the ham. I came from Austin which isn't very far and I'm happy to be here."

"My name is Gloria Lacy. I'm from Boise, Idaho. This is the second one I've been to and I'm just glad to be here."

"Mindy Burge from the Chicago, Illinois area. This is my third gathering and I'm thrilled to be here."

"Hello. I am As'af from Israel and I am very happy to be here."

"Hello. I'm Jared Diehl. I'm from Salem, Utah and I'm happy to be here."

"Travis, friends and the new faces. Hi, I'm Maryellen Dawson. I came from Boston. This is my second Gathering. I was in Salt Lake City."

"I'd like to say that Diane Linen has been our moderator and does so much work for the Keys so we can give her a hand."

"Hi, I'm Rob Brennan from Milwaukee, Wisconsin."

"HI! I'm Cindy Gear and I'm a native Texan, living in Australia now. This is my second Gathering and I'm happy to be here."

"My name is Dino Karountzos. I'm from Roselle, Illinois. This is my first Gathering. I'm happy to meet you all and I'm hoping to learn a lot. Thanks."

"I'm Zofia Stevanovic. I'm from Chicago, originally from Poland and this is my first Gathering and I'm happy to be here."

"Dyanne Davis from Bollingbrook, Illinois."

"Sofia Boris from Chicago, Illinois. Originally from Poland and so far this has been very interesting and I'm looking forward to meeting more or you and to learn more. I came to meet JJ Dewey and I think it's going to be very interesting."

"I'm Rick Audette. I'm the founder of the Keys list. This is my third Gathering and I'm only in it for the thrill."

"My name is John Dewey. (His real name) I'm from outside the Dallas, Texas area. This is my first Gathering, I'm really delighted to be here. I want to thank everyone for helping me as I'm nursing an injured ankle."

"My name is Lorraine. This is my third Gathering and I'm very happy to be here."

"My name is Artie Dewey; and I'm the beauty behind the brains. I'm thrilled to see everybody here. We so appreciate it. Thank you."

  

JJ:

Have we missed anyone? Sorry we don't have speakers, my friends, but my computer is registering correctly and shows it is recording. As I said, this is the equipment I use to record the audios with. I got this just so I could get some decent audio recording. The last couple of gatherings the recording hasn't been that great because we used a regular tape recorder. So, this time I got some good hardware that does a pretty good job. When I recorded the lessons on the Keys as I've been doing the last month or so, I'm able to reduce it down 100 times and it still sounds halfway normal. We can record a lot just using a little bit of memory. This helps us to communicate in a different way. We're maybe breaking some new ground here (referring to the audio Internet). I don't know of anyone else doing it exactly this way. There are a number of tapes and radio programs on the air but I don't know of anyone actually teaching a class this way. So, we're breaking into new territory on the Internet with what we're doing here.

The equipment worked perfectly every night I've done the recordings. This is the only time I've ever had any trouble. But it seems to be working okay now outside the speakers. I'm not sure what the problem is with them. We'll play around with them. But we're a small enough group that you should be able to hear me okay.

I think this must be an important gathering. For one thing, I picked up a nice energy from this group. I pick up a believing energy, a positive energy, a receiving energy, like everybody here is open to learning something; to experiencing something. Does anyone here not feel open? Raise your hand right now. It appears that everyone is open. I picked up that energy from the group this time so I have high expectations for the experiences we're going to have here. I think we're going to have a good time. We'll have communion with some good energy. I'm looking forward to it.

As you know, we chose this date around the "World Invocation Day" which is Sunday. "World Invocation Day" is a day to invoke the higher energies of the Christ and the Hierarchy. As many of you know and believe Christ does not operate alone. When He left, or seemed to have left, He actually said He wasn't leaving. He said, "I am with you until the end of the age." Most Bibles translate that as "world" but that's a mistranslation. It comes from the Greek AION which means 'age' and age of course has a beginning and an end.

So He said, "I will be with you until the end of the age." If He's with us, where is He? According to the Bible, He was resurrected and he has a resurrected body, a resurrected physical body. Being a person who has power over life and death, He has power to manifest in the physical whenever He wants. So he's actually been upon the Earth ever since the time of His resurrection. He has been with us, just as He promised but very few mortals know where He is or would recognize Him if they were to meet Him. He is with us until the end of the age and He's able to be with us in a number of different ways. He could be here with us physically, if we were prepared to meet Him. He is also able to project His consciousness into people and into groups who are ready to receive Him.

Matter of fact, He did this during World War Two. There was a much greater battle during World War Two than most people are aware of. That battle was on many different fronts. It was really the Armageddon of our time in the fact that it was the great battle between good and evil; between the forces of light and the forces of dark. Hitler was overshadowed by the dark brothers. Churchill and FDR [US President Franklin D. Roosevelt] and others working for the forces of light were worked with by the Christ Himself. When Churchill got up, at the time it looked like England was doomed, when Hitler had overtaken Poland and France, the Royal Air force had only a handful of planes to defend all of England from Hitler's armies. Churchill got up and gave his great speech. He said, "We will never surrender." Many of you have heard that speech before. He talked about not surrendering, about how they would fight until the very end and when they reached the end they would continue to fight and eventually they would triumph. In that speech he roused the nation to believe in itself, so, they were able to rise up and defeat Hitler.

During the Battle of Britain, I've heard said, that when Hitler retreated, England had only two planes in the air. I don't know that that's true but I do know it was just a very small handful. If Hitler would've continued just a few more hours he would've defeated them but he thought that they had more to fight with than they did. So he retreated in that great battle, which was perhaps the greatest battle of this century and perhaps of the millennium. In a way, that great battle turned the tide. Churchill aroused his people from defeat to believing that they could turn back the forces of evil. And they did that. The Battle of Britain was the beginning of that.

The Christ created a point of tension in working with Churchill and overshadowing him to defeat the forces of evil. So He's done a lot of things behind the scenes that the world hasn't been aware of. He's doing things behind the scenes now that the world is not aware of. Right now we're having another gathering of the forces of light and dark because whenever the forces of darkness are defeated, they gather again. And of course, 9-11 was an attack on freedom by the forces that want to take away our freedoms. They will continue until they're completely defeated and the door to evil is sealed as it's written in "The Great Invocation." This is what we look forward to.

As I said, we're approaching "World Invocation Day." There are two great principles that we're going to talk about briefly. These are the principles of invocation and of evocation. Is there anyone here who can tell us what these two words mean and the difference between them? What does it mean to invoke? What does it mean to evoke? These are two great principles used by the higher lives and the Masters.

Audience Response:

"To invoke is to create or cause something."

  

JJ:

Kind of. Matter of fact we had an invocation tonight. Who gave that? What was it called? A prayer. Have you ever noticed that when someone says a prayer they say "the invocation will be given by..." Have you ever heard a prayer called invocation? Why is a prayer called an invocation?

Audience response unheard.

  

JJ:

A request from where? From who? Good. An invocation is a petition to bring a higher power down to us. Okay, what's an evocation? Any other thoughts?

Audience responses unheard.

  

JJ:

Would you say I'm doing an evocation with now? I'm evoking you and we are invoking Christ and His associates, right? We invoke when we petition to the higher to come down lower and we evoke when we are the higher ones bringing someone or something up to us. For instance, a magician would be someone who evokes the power that be or whatever. A person who is praying is invoking something higher to come down lower. A speaker, such as myself, is evoking, trying to bring forth response from the group. So I'm evoking you. All of us together will be invoking God, the Holy Spirit, and Christ.

So who do we want to invoke? Who is there to invoke? Does Christ have anyone with Him? Is He working all alone? Do you think He and The Father are sitting on thrones throwing bolts of lightening down here every now and then? That guy needs punished, we'll give him a bunch of warts. This guy over here is a good guy so we'll make him win the lottery. Do you think that's what they do? Sit around and play with us all day? Sometimes we think that, right?

What do they do? Who is Christ with? What's He doing? How do you think He spends His time? Any idea?

Audience response unheard.

  

JJ:

That's right. He has a number of groups that He works with. How do you think He spends His day? It is said that the first thing He does when He gets up is to face the sunrise and say the Great Invocation, with which many of you are familiar. But, how do you suppose He spends His day? Rob, if you were Christ, let's suppose you are Him. We're supposed to be one with Him, right? Now, if we're supposed to be one with Him what does that mean? It means we should be able to figure out what He's thinking. How would you spend your day? You've got lots of supernatural powers the regular guy doesn't have and you can tune into people's consciousness. How would you spend your day?

Audience response unheard.

  

JJ:

Would you have a group of associates around you?

Audience response:

"I would guess I would need associates to do whatever it is I do. As far as what I would do if I could see into somebody else's thoughts, I would....(unheard)"

  

JJ:

Do you think He's aware of different disciples doing different work around the earth?

Audience response:

"I don't see why not."

  

JJ:

This is the interesting part. When you think about God and Christ in heaven up there, you just think of them being on some throne and doing who knows what. But if you put it in context of what you would be doing if you were there, it turns out a little bit differently, doesn't it? Maybe He has to plan His day. Maybe He has a certain number of disciples He's working with, that He tunes into to. Maybe He looks through their eyes and sees what's going on in their world and what He can do to assist them.

Audience response:

"I would say that He's in the project mode. His purpose is to have Earth like it is in heaven. So, being in the project mode, He has a group that works with Him and His disciples and humanity. He puts attention where He needs to put it for each particular day and time. So, as He puts His attention on certain tasks and the problems are solved He will reach the end goal of bringing humanity to heaven, so to speak."

  

JJ:

That's as good of guess as any. Anyone else have any comments?

Audience response:

"I think He works in the world and in us also."

  

JJ:

What type of people do you think He picks to work with? What if the average person doesn't want to be worked with? Do you think He works with Him anyway?

Audience response:

"Only people that want to."

  

JJ:

Indirectly perhaps, through you and me, right? But there is one thing that all the forces of light work with and that is free will. They cannot come and work with anyone until they are invited. Remember what it says in Revelations, Chapter 3: "He that overcometh, to him will I come and sup with him and he with me." So if we can overcome all things and raise ourselves to His plane of consciousness we can invite Him to come into us and He will sup with us and we will sup with Him. In other words, we will have a communion with Him, directly, which is unlike anything we've ever experienced with mortal people.

What kind of a communion or steps of communion is there with Christ, do you think? Everything seems to come in three's, don't they? What are three steps to a full communion? What it describes in Revelations is the full communion with the Christ, like a Vulcan mind-meld, so to speak, that we would have with Him. Remember on Star Trek, the Vulcan grabs the guy's temples and they merge their minds together and they understand each other completely? That's like the final but where do we start to have a communion with the Masters with the higher powers?

Audience response:

"I'll say one thing. It's just an acknowledgment. We can't do it by ourselves. We need to ask for His help in order to accomplish anything."

  

JJ:

We have to start out first of all by searching, by wanting something higher. There are a number of illusions to overcome before we can attain even our first step in communion. The first initiation that is taught by the ancient wisdom is the birth of the Christ in the heart. This comes after a period of aspiration where we are aspiring to be Disciples of Christ. We aspire and we attempt over a period of time until finally we have an experience which is called the birth of the Christ in the heart. This birth of the Christ in the heart comes after a long search where we have kind of a visitation and it will seem at the time that you've experienced the ultimate, but it's really the beginning. Every spiritual experience that most people have, lead them to think it is the end but it's not the end. It's the beginning of something. The born again Christian has this experience, forgiveness of their sins and they feel really great, a spiritual experience and they think it's the end. It's really the beginning; their beginning step. Little do they realize that there's much more beyond that. Really, there is no end to the feelings of intensity and growth of experiences that we will have in this universe. It will go on forever. When we experience one thing we'll go on to a new experience. We will become that which we decide to become. And eventually whatever we become, we will make another decision somewhere down the way.

Many think, "I want to go to some end product." It's not only the Christian religion, and Islam and all the standard religions that believe this but also many of the new age people all believe this one thing. When I reach "ABC" that will be it and I will have the fullness of joy, the end of my lifetimes, I will be in some heavenly sphere, and it's going to be this way for all eternity and I'm never going to have to do anything again. It's really going to be great. But how long do you think a person would have to go he would get bored and want to do something else? How long would you sing with the angels on your harp before you get tired of playing the harp? Or how long could you sit next to some Master or the Christ Himself or the highest God you can imagine, sitting before His throne singing praises, before you think, "I'm ready to go do something new."

It's like the prodigal son. Matter of fact, we are the prodigal sons as is taught in the ancient wisdom. We came from the presence of our Father. We had everything our Father would have to give but we got bored and decided we wanted to come wallow with the hogs awhile and live a more unpleasant life. It seemed exciting to us. So we came down here and after a period of time we decide we want to go back to our Father's house. Maybe He'll take me back again. I don't want to be a son; I just want to be a servant. That would be good enough. When we rise and we go back we find that our Father says, "You are my son and all that my son has you are entitled to."

One of the meanings of the prodigal son is humanity itself is the prodigal son that returns to the Father. We return to the Father how? By raising ourselves up in consciousness until we're one with the Holy Spirit within ourselves. When this time comes we begin our journey back home. When we begin our journey back home, we take with us all the experiences that we've accumulated. We're much wiser than we were before. When the prodigal son returns he has much wisdom that he wouldn't have had if he'd just stayed home cared for the animals all day long and did the same thing over and over. He did something different and experimented. It was costly to him but on the other hand he gained a lot by his journey. We came down here to this world of lowest vibration and it's a strange journey but now is the time for us to rise up and go home.

One of the things that we need to do is to master the art and the principle of invocation. This is a seed thought I want to plant in everybody's mind tonight. Sunday is "World Invocation Day." We're going to meet here at 0700 and say "The Great Invocation." At this particular hour we're going to seek to commune with the Christ and His Hierarchy and to draw down their presence to us and see what impressions come to us. So, I want to put this thought in everyone's mind. The invocation begins now and will consummate Sunday morning at 7 o'clock. So how do you begin an invocation and why do we need to invoke the higher lives? Why do we need to invoke them? Aren't they aware of us all the time anyway? Do we even need to call on them? Or do they need invoked?

Audience response:

"Because of free will, they will not come into our lives unless we ask them to."

  

JJ:

There is one more point that is overlooked by many. This is the fact that they are very busy. The Christ has a lot of things to do besides His attendance to humanity as we understand it. He has many things to occupy His attention. By invoking Him, when He feels the invocation, when it becomes strong enough, He will respond to it. He will send His presence to where He is invoked. When is it determined to be strong enough? It is strong enough when the point of tension is reached. Can anyone tell me what a point of tension is? We talked about it on the Keys at one time. Rick, you've been there since the beginning, let's see how good your memory is. What's the point of tension?

Rick:

"When you build up enough strength of desire to find an answer or to solve something."

  

JJ:

Right. To turn the tide and make something work. If you put salt in a glass of water, it disappears completely. You keep putting it in and it keeps disappearing until all the space between the molecules is filled up. When it's filled up, the point of tension is reached then the salt begins to crystallize. When you wind up an airplane, propelled by a rubber band, you wind it until the point of tension is reached. You can feel the tension and you know that if you were to take it any farther it would break but you're just to the right point to where you know enough energy is in there to make the plane fly. You release the airplane propelled by the energy in the rubber band and let it go and that point of tension causes the airplane to fly.

What do you suppose the point of tension is when you're invoking a higher life? What's the point of tension there?

Audience response:

"That you're asking hard enough and that you're willing to listen."

  

JJ:

Okay. Have most people in here prayed at one time or another in their lives? How many times have you prayed, Dino, and never gotten an answer? But I bet you prayed sometimes and have gotten answers, right? Those times where you really got an answer, was it a casual prayer or was it prayer with strong intensity? The times you really get an answer are the times you really create a point of tension. If you don't create a point of tension in your invocation, very little will happen. This is why many people pray and pray and pray and nothing happens. They do not create the point of tension. Without a point of tension being created a prayer is just the spoken word dissipated and nobody pays much attention to it, not even the higher lives.

The Holy Spirit within us is aware of everything that goes on but even the Holy Spirit and Christ are subject to the laws of the universe. One of the laws of the universe and the laws behind prayer is governed by the point of tension. You have to create it to produce a response to an invocation. You're not really invoking without a true point of tension.

Think of something that you accomplished that was real important to you. Maybe it was studying for a test you had to pass, in college to get an "A" [grade] or whatever. So you studied and studied until finally you reached that point of tension where you know you're going to get the "A." You know you're going to pass. You know you're going to get whatever it is you're searching for. But, if you just read a couple of the pages and made a casual study of the notes, you're not going to invoke an A, are you?

Now, if you're petitioning to get a response from Christ and His associates and you just make a casual amount of effort, or maybe just a "C's" worth of effort little will happen. You have to make an "A" or "B's" worth of effort; you need to create a point of tension. A point of tension must also be created around an evocation and without that point of tension our words are no different than the words we speak to friends at work. There won't be much more power than normal speaking without it.

Here's something to take into consideration. With spiritual matters, people seem to have the idea that sometimes spiritual principles work and sometimes they don't. You just don't know what's going to make it work. Sometimes you get an answer and sometimes you don't. Sometimes people get healed by faith and sometimes nothing seems to happen. So, are there any laws that govern this or is it just by happenstance? Maybe God is up there on a throne saying this person is going to get healed and this one won't and God's up there making all these little decisions. Is that what's happening? Or is there a principle that if we understood this principle, the same thing would happen again and again?

It's like science. They say something is scientific when you can put together the formula and give it to another scientist and he can repeat the formula and get the exact same results. Remember the cold fusion they came up with a few years ago? Other scientists took the formula and they couldn't duplicate it so they assumed something must've been wrong because they couldn't duplicate the cold fusion. So, really there was some problem in the original formula because it could not be duplicated. Yet, Edison, when he invented the light bulb, gave the formula to somebody else and they could duplicate it exactly and we've been duplicating it ever since. Every time we make a light bulb and plug it in it works. This is because the principle is followed. Every time the principle is followed, you screw in the light bulb and it works every time. But maybe when Edison was first putting together his first handful of light bulbs maybe some of them didn't work because they didn't have the process down completely.

It's interesting that when they first started building railroad bridges a lot of them collapsed. Many people thought they would never be able to construct a railroad system in the United States because so many bridges collapsed killing so many people that it would never be feasible. But, eventually they made the bridges better and better and now you never hear of a bridge falling down unless it's from an earthquake or something. But when they first began building the bridges they fell down regularly so a lot of people though we'd never have a railroad system in this country. They thought we should have abandoned because we can't make a bridge that will support it. Well, they solved these problems.

This is the same with spiritual principles. As we learn them, the principles of healing for example, sometimes healings work, sometimes they don't. We have to apply a little bit more scientific mind and find out what we did right when it worked and what we didn't do right when it didn't work. What did we do right when we felt some presence, some spiritual presence come down and assist us? And what didn't we do right when we sought the spiritual presence and nothing happened? What was different between these two things? We study the differences. The thing to look for, if you want to have a spiritual experience, is the point of tension.

Let's go back to the airplane powered by the rubber band. Has everyone flown one of these? We used to have them when I was a kid but I haven't seen one for a long time. You wind up the propeller powered by the rubber band and every wind gives it more power. This is how it is if we want to invoke a higher power in our lives. We have to wind up until a point of tension is reached.

Now let's talk about the winding here; the things we have to do to wind ourselves up until the point of tension is reached so we can have a true spiritual experience. What is the first wind?

Audience response:

"The invocation?"

  

-- End Of Part One --

  

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