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Blayne writes:
I am wondering if there are many masters reincarnating or have already into this time period to help humanity through this rough patch? Or high level initiates at least?
Maybe it is just me but I feel something has to give soon and I have the feeling it is going to get pretty rough soon. I feel like the Korean problem while still volatile has passed its most dangerous point and is calming down.
Still unemployment is increasing rapidly despite politicians and media pundits claiming were in recovery and of course politicians are borrowing and spending like drunken sailors.
We Have riots in Europe and the UK as students are mad the government wants to cut back the education subsidies and make them pay more as governments all over the world are bankrupt and running the printing presses or credit card so to speak to pay the bills. And yes Australia too they just had more room to inflate then the US but are in the same boat and will catch up soon.
While it’s possible things could change nothing has and there is no indication any of the people that need to be the catalyst for change are even considering it. At some point the unemployment will reach a critical mass and then you will have a bunch of pissed off people with nothing left to lose.
I just feel people need to prepare for a time in the near future when there will be no jobs and food etc will be scarce. I don’t see it heading any other way. If something changes to save the day great but in the meantime were on our own for a good stretch and were going to have to reap what we have sown as a people I think.
Hate to be gloomy and I still have a strange optimism at the eventual outcome but the in between is not going to be fun and what we see now is just barely the tip of the iceberg. Thoughts?
JJ
Unless some turnaround occurs we are indeed headed toward financial catastrophe. One just has to do the math on the increasing interest payments we are making on our debt.
There are ways to turn things around and perhaps the only real solution will come from the people themselves as politicians seem to lose all touch with common sense after they get settled into office. The new crop shows some promise but we’ll have to wait and see.
Mentally it seems logical that I should be placing all my energy into organizing something to incorporate some of the changes I have written about but my soul tells me that the time is not quite right and wait for a season. I do not think the time is far off as more people are looking for solutions as time passes.
As to where the masters or initiates are it appears that not many high on the scale have entered politics as there doesn’t seen to be much light in he halls of Congress.
An amazing number thought that Obama was a master or high initiate. His ability to read a teleprompter well seemed to have misled many. Thankfully you and I were not among them. Now, even many of his supporters are coming to the conclusion that he is in way over his head.
So, if Obama was not a master or high initiate then where are they – or do such entities avoid politics completely?
If we want to find any initiates among politicians we must know what to look for. What kind of approach would be taken by a lofty soul who is in politics? The masters focus on the line of Love/Wisdom and can be found on the plane of the mind so a high initiate would use logic and reason tempered with love.
Anyone working with the forces of light would show these qualities.
(1) He or she would not support the idea of continually spending more money than we have and strapping the next generation with high interest payments.
(2) He would support the principle of freedom and thus work to run the country on the lowest possible tax rate giving people freedom to invest their own money.
(3) He would not seek for excessive regulation and quality of laws but only essential ones.
(4) He would not use the poor and unemployed to increase his power base but sincerely seek to assist them in ways that will get the willing back into productivity.
(5) He would be a true environmentalist. He would not use the environment as a weapon to increase political power or raise taxes but seek to aid the environment in common sense ways.
(6) He would not be black and white but willing to use the principle of judgment as situations change.
(7) If he is an initiate then he will be working on initiating something new.
That said – let me throw this out to the group.
First, do you agree with the above seven points? If not what criteria would you use?
Secondly, can you think of any one involved in politics who you think could be an agent for the Brotherhood of light?
If the answer is yes then why do you think this?
I think Oprah is a 2nd degree Initiate and could have run for President, and won, if she had chosen to do that. It is a shame she has not yet tapped into JJ and his teachings and offered to help build Zion with all the money that she usually donates to those in need, although now she is retiring from TV she may well need another opening or venture to keep her moving in the right direction. I also think that Dr Phil would be good in politics because he is logical and understands the emotional body more than most and deals with the emotions and how to counter train them against negativity etc.
Paul Ryan R Wisconsin seems to be willing to make the hard choices to get us back on track financially. He is one of the few in congress that uses his logic and reasoning.
Larry Woods says,
JJ asked for comment on his list of seven high-points we could expect to see in a politician who follows BOL teachings. So here is my point by point comment:
“Anyone working with the forces of light would show these qualities.
(1) He or she would not support the idea of continually spending more money than we have and strapping the next generation with high interest payments.”
Agreed.
“(2) He would support the principle of freedom and thus work to run the country on the lowest possible tax rate giving people freedom to invest their own money.”
Agreed.
“(3) He would not seek for excessive regulation and quality of laws but only essential ones.”
Agreed (but I had a little trouble with your wording).
“(4) He would not use the poor and unemployed to increase his power base but sincerely seek to assist them in ways that will get the willing back into productivity.”
Agreed.
“(5) He would be a true environmentalist. He would not use the environment as a weapon to increase political power or raise taxes but seek to aid the environment in common sense ways.”
Agreed.
“(6) He would not be black and white but willing to use the principle of judgment as situations change.”
Agreed.
“(7) If he is an initiate then he will be working on initiating something new.”
Agreed.
I rack my brain trying to come up with something you missed but I think you got a pretty good list of attributes going here. I think about some great American leaders from history such as George Patten. He cultivated a larger-than-life persona to aid him in his leadership role. He used oversized stars on his vehicles and uniforms, he wore two pearl handle pistols set for cross-hand use, he exhibited calculated flamboyancy to keep his troop’s attention focused on him, and he even practiced his scowl in front of the mirror at home according to his daughter. In fact many leaders exhibit similar behavior. Could this “principle” of leadership see use by a BOL leader? I consider this as one of the most important aspects of a leader – especially now in the days of TV news and Internet reporting. Yet the BOL seems to advocate a low-key presence which shuns notoriety. But the leader must lead and I think the larger-than-life principle is a legitimate tool of leadership. So If I could add anything to your list, JJ, I would say a BOL Initiate could step out of the normal BOL behavior and cultivate a recognizable and strong media personality.
Now commenting on the Ron Paul nomination for BOL Initiate: I like much about Ron Paul. However, to me he fails the test because of his rigid head-in-the-sand foreign policy. A stated he voted against war with Iraq. But our expensive war with Iraq is already paying off creating a more stable situation in the middle east. We face a terrible international problem pattern in that ALL Islamic people created dictator states. Iraq now sets the example for all of them to envy (and later emulate) as the only democracy among them. Witnessing the increase in success Iraq will now begin to accrue as a democracy will bless these other states and help draw them into the future. This achievement, almost single-handedly brought to us by Bush, will prove out as one of the biggest achievements of our century. The value of moving these people ahead in such a fundamental way is beyond price and will fundamentally reshape our whole world in years to come. So, while I very much like many of Ron Paul’s domestic policies, I think he is dead wrong about some of our involvements around the world. To be fair with RP, many of our foreign entanglements are problematic, mishandled, opportunistic for special cronies, and not in our best interest. However, Iraq did make a lot of sense. So RP got it right with most of our foreign policy. And his domestic ideas of respecting tax-payers and canning the Fed fit right exactly inside my heart. To me, whether RP is a BOL Initiate or not is beside the point. He is a voice for freedom and respect and that is what counts – even though I think he errs about Iraq. In my opinion RP fits the bill of a high level thinker and of a sincere freedom lover but I cannot count him as any high Initiate or he would have supported the Iraq war. IMHO.
On the other hand, can we expect a third level or higher Initiate to be on the right side of every issue? Actually I think we can expect this. Now the problem becomes us. Can we rely upon our own selves to accurately discern every issue so we could recognize these guys by comparing them to our own conclusions? Probably not. I know that I passed over many issues in the past which I felt could possibly have another side to them but my teacher’s chains would not let my mind go there. These were such issues as nuances of gay rights, nuances of euthanasia, nuances of abortion, and more. Now that I cast off the chains, these issues look a little different seen in this new light. Do I still err on some of my perceptions by placing my expectations and conclusions in the way so I cannot see clearly? I’m sure I do. Even I push around the truth sometimes though I do not know where – if I did know where I do this I would change myself – but that is the point, we cannot see past our pet blinders. You guys often help me to see better. And every adjustment brings me closer. But I perceive true humility-before-truth requires a very high moral achievement which, I think, defines part of the third Initiation. But I must also say, though I may not be right, I am never wrong! A guy has to believe in himself – doesn’t he?
As for me seeing any politician on our horizon who might be a BOL Initiate, no one stands out that much so far. A few might be but, as JJ said, it is too early to tell. As for past politicians, I can say that both Reagan and W inspired me a lot even though I do not think either were third level or higher Initiates. It fascinates me JJ teaches that honest Abe and Washington were such Initiates. Especially JJ’s idea about some of Washington’s past life stuff. But I do not claim any revelation on these matters other than my trust of JJ’s excellent judgment and intuitive connections. These guys do both seem to fit the bill. Also interesting to me, one of my dear friends likes to use Lincoln as the one example of our worst President ever. I point out to him all the time, because he keeps bringing it up, that Lincoln took some drastic measures only because he is our only President who ever presided over a domestic war and the only one ever empowered with unbridled marshal law. Marshal law causes many things to change because it is essentially crisis law associated with overwhelming disaster such as home-soil war. Lyle constantly quotes his litany against Lincoln being the only one who ever suspended habeas corpus and on down the list. He refuses to acknowledge the difference between regular law as opposed to marshal law and he will not even admit marshal law has any legitimate place even in time of war. Yet Lyle, at the same time, sees many issues clearly because he is usually willing to explore beyond the surface. To me it seems humility is the biggest one thing we must cultivate to see ALL truth clearly. As I said before over in Keysters, when I read JJ’s book where he describes meeting with Sanat, a character who seems beyond my capacity to even imagine, I felt as if I was transported to that meeting and personally witnessed it. I cannot tell you much about this great character except for one thing: his awe inspiring humility before truth. I felt literally awe struck by my perception of humility before truth emanating from this guy. Awe struck! We will keep trying. Truth will prevail.
Your brother,
Larry Woods
I sense that these politicians could be used as agents of Light or are initiates of Light: with my assessment of their standing in the Light in parentheses.
1.) Sarah Palin – 1st degree initiate
2.) John Boehner – 1st degree initiate
3.) Dick Cheney – 2nd degree initiate (possibly higher)
4.) Ron Paul – 1st degree initiate
5.) Mitt Romney – 1st degree initiate
6.) John Thume – agent of Light
7.) Donald Trump – agent of Light
Larry Woods says,
I can hardly wait for this “fun” to begin. As I said in the past, JJ, the body of teaching and discussion you created at Keyster discussion group on Yahoo constitutes the very best anti-bulshit teaching anywhere on planet earth. Your new book fills a big role to escalate our awareness in this nation, so that, “…wise men and rulers may hear and know that which they have never considered.” I very much look forward to following your work as you hit the book promotion trail and get into the national arena of ideas. You discussed many ideas from your book in Keysters but not any of us have yet seen it in the altogether. Can hardly wait! Truth will prevail.
Your brother,
Larry Woods
I think your seven points are indicative of a high level initiate in politics.
From Ron Paul.Com
Brief Overview of Congressman Paul’s Record:
* He has never voted to raise taxes.
* He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
* He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
* He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
* He has never taken a government-paid junket.
* He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
* He voted against the Patriot Act.
* He voted against regulating the Internet.
* He voted against the Iraq war.
* He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
* He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.
On the environment he said: “It is clear that the earth experiences natural cycles in temperature. However, science shows that human activity probably does play a role in stimulating the current fluctuations.The question is: how much? Rather than taking a “sky is falling” approach, I think there are common-sense steps we can take to cut emissions and preserve our environment. I am, after all, a conservative and seek to conserve not just American traditions and our Constitution, but our natural resources as well.” For his common-sense steps go to http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/global-warming/
He was just made the Chairman of Domestic Monetary Policy Subcommittee. He is initiating something new in his desire to audit the Fed Reserve, something that has never been done before. He has been quite outspoken that we need to get rid of the Federal Reserve but just getting an audit would be a huge step in the right direction. If you truly understood the Central Banking system the world over you would understand why we are having a depression right now and why this is THE key issue.
Ron Paul is definitely an agent of the brotherhood of light. I believe his son Rand Paul is another agent for light as one of the newest Senators. I am watching Sarah Palin quite closely as I am pretty sure she is also, but time will tell as I learn more about her. I keep hoping that an agent for light will turn up in the Democratic Party as well. So far I cannot find one since Bobby Kennedy.
Susan
Hahaha Susan,
As I read the points I was thinking the same thing; Ron Paul is the only one I could think of that fits all the points JJ mentions. Their may be a few others who have “some” of those points but I couldn’t tell you who they are.
Ron Paul has spent over 20 of the last 30 years in congress advocating the very same principles he advocates today, most of that time he has been an obscure unknown considered eccentric and extreme etc. It was not until his 2008 presidential run that he has become well known and his voice of reason listened to by millions.
It was his supporters who initiated the tea party movement in 2007 and Glen Beck co-opted it and brought it more mainstream. The republicans have watered it down now in an attempt to render it benign but still it holds promise as more and more people wake up to something being wrong at what ever level they are at. I see it as a sort of entry level org now that people who previously did not care much about what’s going on can get involved in it without feeling like they are jumping in with extremists which they would see the hard core Ron Paul supporters as in the beginning. The left has done everything they can to discredit the Tea parties. His perseverance all those years when he was shunned and ridiculed shows a high level initiate in my opinion. He has been passed over twice as the Monetary chairman and they were still looking for an excuse to pass him over this time but they couldn’t since he is the ranking member and his support has grown exponentially.
He has been a catalyst for great change politically however I don’t know if he will see the full extent of what he initiated in this life time but the last 4 years have certainly marked the beginnings of great political change much of it due to Ron Paul methodically plodding along for so many years seemingly insignificant and unable to accomplish much as his own party was unwilling to work with him and still are largely. Still even as the Monetary committee Chairmen he doesn’t have much power to change things within the system as the committee is largely just a token and has no real oversight over the Federal Reserve. His real accomplishment is in initiating the movement we see of people to get involved and change things.
The interesting part is he managed to finally break out and cause a large movement despite never being in a leadership role within the Republican party. He has been warning of our dangerous unsustainable monetary policy for 30 years. He has been a great advocate of the Austrian School of economics which philosophy has predicted right down the line the financial woes we are in and the coming disaster if we continue. It is most likely to late to turn the ship around without great pain. Now they are just rearranging the the deck chairs in the Titanic while the band continues to play.
All the media pundits laughed at Ron Paul and Peter Schiff and a few others who predicted the crash of 2008 and the subsequent problems and impending final crash still to come and ridiculed them on open TV. They are not laughing anymore.
I am much more cautious of Sarah Palin however I was over at some friends the other night and we watched her new reality show and she and her family seem much more down to earth and real people then most politicians. I would not have watched it on my own because I am not into reality shows but I thought it showed her in a pretty good light. I know it is a TV reality show and lots of things are scripted but some things you can’t fake like how she treats other people and especially her downs syndrome child. Still I couldn’t help but think the whole thing is just to endear her to people so she can run for president in 2012. It might work though and even I was moved a bit and that is not easy to do.
But she will appeal to a lot more people in the main stream I think.
This brotherhood of light thing I am pretty sure is just an illusion. People are just people.
People are more than just people, they are spirits who have a soul, thus they are spirits learning how to be human. We live on a planet of opposites where there is light and darkness, daylight and night. Being provided with opposites means there is choice. Some can prefer the Light whereas others prefer the darkness. Since people tend to gather in groups, so it is logical that some who have a strong preference for Light will gather together. Over time those who prefer the Light, in all of its aspects, formed a Brotherhood, or a group devoted to sharing what they had learned. If this Brotherhood is an illusion as you state then there is no hope for mankind to progress and to learn. This Brotherhood has given knowledge and provided sound wisdom to others throughout the centuries. Just because you cannot see something doesn’t mean it is not real. Consider the wind and how powerful it is…we feel the wind and see the results of its power, but cannot see the wind. This is true of the Brotherhood also.
There is a point of self-awareness when one decides after a critical pivot-point of contemplative angst, soul-searching, and conscience-evocation that he will only walk the straight and narrow path-way. Once this decision is sealed then he is new member of the Brotherhood of Light.
But, you are right that most people are ‘just people’ who are clueless that there is a distinct difference between good and evil or even how to discern the difference of the two with the clarity of wisdom. Therefore they remain ‘just people’. Not saying that the pathway to becoming an initiate of the BOL is not difficult just that many do not even know it exists.
There is another minority group that is distinctly aware of the BOL and its distinctive Brotherhood and that is those who see with clarity the two pathways, one to the left and one to the right and they chose knowingly the left-hand and are therefore initiated into the brotherhood of darkness. Both brotherhoods are ware that the other brotherhood exists.
Are you reverting back to your old ways of thinking again Dean? You know where this kind of thinking got you last time.
Ruth
Hi JJ, I assumed you were going to move into politics, hence the book. “Molecular Polictics the Keys to fixing America” and the creation of your majority speaks forum. I felt you maybe going to move into politics via the “Tea Party” movement, and use this as a stepping stone in forming a party that was relevant to the people of this era. Sharon
I’m not interested in forming a third party but plan on adding a new chapter to my book – Molecular Politics – after Christmas and publishing it shortly thereafter. Then let the fun begin.